College Football Bowls

[Redboard]

Very disappointing bowl games the last few days. Every one that I watched has been over by halftime.

:mad:

It is now halftime at the Sugar Bowl:
Oklahoma State: 6
University of Mississippi : 34

Another bowl bites the dust, I’m going to bed.
:sleeping:

[Tall One]

Yep..all these games have been awful. One bright spot was the Stanford's band farmersonly.com jab at Iowa. ESPN cut away from it pretty quick though.

[Stillriledup]

Iowa ruined my day. I was all set to watch a blood war, but they played like it was a training camp practice. They played like it wasnt a big deal if they won or lost, all they cared about is trying to look as much like the Steelers as possible.

Awful

[rastajenk]

Thanks for the perfect opportunity for me to trot out my annual bowl complaint. I'm pretty sure I've aired this grievance previously in the eight years or so I've been participating here.

I like the current playoff system a tiny bit better than the BCS, but I like the previous system of conference affiliations much much better. I think it was better to have four or five meaningful bowl games and a vote afterwards, even if it meant a split decision, to determine a national champ. Who really cares who the champ is after a few days or weeks anyway?

Now we have two games that matter, and a 10-day break for yet another game, and a bunch of other games that matter not one bit. I don't think that's progress. Consider some matchups that might have occurred:

Rose: Stanford v Mich St
Fiesta: Oklahoma v ND or Ohio State
Sugar: Alabama v ND or Ohio State, Baylor maybe
Orange: Clemson v OSU or Baylor or Houston maybe

Put Ole Miss in the mix, maybe throw Iowa a bone, but the point is have everything over within about 30 hours and see what shakes out. This has been the worst bowl season ever (forty + games doesn't help, either, but I'm not going to knock the cheesy early ones that don't impact New Year's at all).

I'd even allow for a final #1 v #2 after all that if it made some folks happier, but it wouldn't have the rigidity or pre-determined matchups that the current system has. This season has really stunk, and it's a result of the process, and not by chance.

[burnsy]

Roll Tide! Not that I really care but my girlfriend is from Alabama. Having that game on New Years Eve was genius. I didn't have to deal with the crowds and drunks because she was going no where with that game on. That's was the best NYE in years, I ordered pizza and wings, watched the game and avoided the "pain" of being in the crowds. She even knew I was happier than a pig in slop with that deal. The only reason I would go out on that night is her wanting to....... :lol:

Keep those games on New Years Eve, if bama is in it I get to stay home......

[Redboard]

I agree burnsy, I like the move of putting the two bowls that 'matter' on NY eve. My main complaint about the bowls was that there were too darn many games on NY day. At one point, oneyear, I remember three on at the same time. The Sugar bowl used to be on NY eve, back in the day, then that was moved to the next day.
I hope they keep this format but with those two being blowouts (even I didn't watch the 2nd half) and most of the other games too, I would guess that the ratings might be down all over, which might get some people to panic.

[Redboard]

Thanks for the perfect opportunity for me to trot out my annual bowl complaint. I'm pretty sure I've aired this grievance previously in the eight years or so I've been participating here.

I like the current playoff system a tiny bit better than the BCS, but I like the previous system of conference affiliations much much better. I think it was better to have four or five meaningful bowl games and a vote afterwards, even if it meant a split decision, to determine a national champ. Who really cares who the champ is after a few days or weeks anyway?

Now we have two games that matter, and a 10-day break for yet another game, and a bunch of other games that matter not one bit. I don't think that's progress. Consider some matchups that might have occurred:

Rose: Stanford v Mich St
Fiesta: Oklahoma v ND or Ohio State
Sugar: Alabama v ND or Ohio State, Baylor maybe
Orange: Clemson v OSU or Baylor or Houston maybe

Put Ole Miss in the mix, maybe throw Iowa a bone, but the point is have everything over within about 30 hours and see what shakes out. This has been the worst bowl season ever (forty + games doesn't help, either, but I'm not going to knock the cheesy early ones that don't impact New Year's at all).

I'd even allow for a final #1 v #2 after all that if it made some folks happier, but it wouldn't have the rigidity or pre-determined matchups that the current system has. This season has really stunk, and it's a result of the process, and not by chance.
I agree for the most part. I'd go back the the old system and have , as you mentioned, #1 and #2 play for the championship 10 days or so later. That way, more games would 'matter'.
The problem with the old system was it allowed teams to duck a good team. Penn State always complained about getting shafted. There would have to be some system that made sure that the good teams played each other and not a stiff just to be eligible for the championship.

I don't think that the new system is responsible for the blowouts though. Still four more games today. Maybe we'll get a decent contest.

[MutuelClerk]

At one time in the bowl games the two teams playing for the Big 10 championship were losing by a combined score of 73-0. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that's not good. I'm not a buckeye fan at all, but they were the best team the big 10 had this season. How they lost at home to Sparty without Cook is a mystery.

[Marshall Bennett]

A few teams this year are playing in bowl games with a 5-7 record. It's all about the bucks now, not deserving teams.
I like TCU today +7 against Oregon. Playing in South Texas, almost like a home game for frogs.

[ronsmac]

A few teams this year are playing in bowl games with a 5-7 record. It's all about the bucks now, not deserving teams.
I like TCU today +7 against Oregon. Playing in South Texas, almost like a home game for frogs.Tcu won't have their qb, that could make it tricky for them.

[Marshall Bennett]

Tcu won't have their qb, that could make it tricky for them.
Probably why line opened at even and moved to +7.

[Valuist]

At one time in the bowl games the two teams playing for the Big 10 championship were losing by a combined score of 73-0. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that's not good. I'm not a buckeye fan at all, but they were the best team the big 10 had this season. How they lost at home to Sparty without Cook is a mystery.

I think one can make a strong case that Ohio State is one of the two best teams in the country.

[ManU918]

I think one can make a strong case that Ohio State is one of the two best teams in the country.

There's no question. They might even be the best team. This is why we need more than a 4 team playoff. Teams should not be penalized for the timing of a loss instead be graded on their overall body of work. There was never a doubt that Ohio St was and is a better team than Oklahoma. No good team this year especially a team ranked 4th would have lost to Texas.

If its going to stay at a 4 team playoff....My idea would be to implement a new plan where all teams play a conference schedule/rival games but aren't allowed to schedule any other games. The playoff committee would be in charge of the out of conference schedules. That way teams are forced to have a competitive schedule. Next season Baylor's first three games are Northwestern State, SMU and Rice.... Then they go into Big 12 play... Seriously?

[Tall One]

At this juncture, and regardless, you can't leave Alabama out of any conversation as the best team. Beat them, and there it is. IMO.

[Marshall Bennett]

What they worry about is losing money. Should they go to an 8 team format chances are a team such as The Univ. of Houston would reach the finals and tremendously lower the market value of a championship game. This way with 4 (and I like probably most would prefer 8), they feel they're guaranteed a quality game worth a whole lot more.

[tucker6]

turned off the TCU - Oregon game at halftime when it was 31-0 Oregon. Color me surprised to wake up and see that TCU won 47-41 in triple OT.

[forced89]

turned off the TCU - Oregon game at halftime when it was 31-0 Oregon. Color me surprised to wake up and see that TCU won 47-41 in triple OT.

What a game. Best Bowl Game so far!

[burnsy]

At this juncture, and regardless, you can't leave Alabama out of any conversation as the best team. Beat them, and there it is. IMO.

Totally agree. The SEC is running right through these bowl games with an 8-2 record and most of these games are a joke. They are not even close. Alabama lost one, but the competition was just harder during the season. The bowl games are pretty good evidence of this. No one has a defense like this or even close in college football. Clemson will have to bring its best game of the year to have a chance. They should expand the playoffs but it looks like the two best teams are in it this year. I don't think Ohio State could hang with either one of these teams this year. The disappointment of New Years Eve was both of those games were a blowout. If these games were closer I could see the debate, but its not even close this year. Ohio State played Notre Dame and gave up 28 points........c'mon.

[cj]

There's no question. They might even be the best team. This is why we need more than a 4 team playoff. Teams should not be penalized for the timing of a loss instead be graded on their overall body of work. There was never a doubt that Ohio St was and is a better team than Oklahoma. No good team this year especially a team ranked 4th would have lost to Texas.

If its going to stay at a 4 team playoff....My idea would be to implement a new plan where all teams play a conference schedule/rival games but aren't allowed to schedule any other games. The playoff committee would be in charge of the out of conference schedules. That way teams are forced to have a competitive schedule. Next season Baylor's first three games are Northwestern State, SMU and Rice.... Then they go into Big 12 play... Seriously?

The two best teams in the Big 12 were both done in by injuries at QB, especially Baylor. Oklahoma was extremely fortunate in that they didn't face the starting QB in any of the last three conference games.

It was also extremely dumb of Patterson to go for 2 and the win in that game where they had all the momentum and Mayfield was out with a concussion. No way Trevor Knight was going to lead that team to a win in overtime, he looked AWFUL that day in relief.

[ManU918]

The two best teams in the Big 12 were both done in by injuries at QB, especially Baylor. Oklahoma was extremely fortunate in that they didn't face the starting QB in any of the last three conference games.

It was also extremely dumb of Patterson to go for 2 and the win in that game where they had all the momentum and Mayfield was out with a concussion. No way Trevor Knight was going to lead that team to a win in overtime, he looked AWFUL that day in relief.

In your opinion who were the 2 best teams in the Big 12? Baylor and TCU?
Baylor out of conference schedule: SMU, Lamar and Rice
TCU out of conference schedule: Minnesota, Stephen F Austin and SMU

Both teams won their bowls which is great but they need to start scheduling those types of games during the season if they want to be considered for the playoff. The conference overall is putrid. They should add Houston and either Temple or San Diego State. Temple might be a little far but at this point who cares. All three of those teams are an upgrade to walkovers like Kansas, Iowa State, and soon to be Kansas State if Snyder rolls again.

I mean is the best Kansas can do is a WR coach from Texas A&M? Seriously? I know the guy formerly played and worked at Kansas but come on. This is the Big 12 we are talking about not the Sun Belt.