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Nitro
12-12-2015, 07:00 PM
It’s another value packed day at Sha Tin with big fields in ALL 10 Turf races.
I'm looking forward to some nice returns.

Post Time Race #1 – 11:25 PM SAT. EST

GL if you’re playing & feel free to join in !

Hopefully the site won't have any interruptions this morning!

betovernetcapper
12-12-2015, 08:28 PM
Was struck by :8: 's eye catching final sectional time of 21:52, even if it was in a Griffin race. Today I did a track variant of that day and on a day when the average race was fast by .25, :8: 's race was slow by 1.84 which would give him a projected time of 125.14 today. This is really slow. BTW, it was a 5 horse race, he was 6-5 and won by a nose.

:3: Won a maiden auction (mdn claiming?) race in GB. Probably was not worth the shipping costs. Good jockey-3% trainer.

:10: & :11: are the early speed. :11: comes from class 4 and draws post #13. :10: draws from post #4 and has an a 10lb apprentice allowance meaning he'll carry 105 lbs. If he can break on top and get a relaxed lead, could very well be part of the Quiniela.

:1: has decent figures, but out of 8 starts has 5 places and shows but no wins. Post 9
:2: is similar to # :1: but likes to win. Post 1

:7: , :9: & :12: should all be finishing fast. # :12: has Joe Moreira and is likely to be over bet.

After all this I have no solid opinion of who or how I'll bet this race. :)

Nitro
12-12-2015, 10:18 PM
It should be an interesting race card with some international flavor. There are entries sprinkled into many of the races coming in from Europe, Japan, Australia and New Zealand. I’m not sure how much of an impact they’ll have because without a race over Sha Tin turf course they may be at a disadvantage.

woodbinepmi
12-12-2015, 10:55 PM
Good evening sir.

woodbinepmi
12-12-2015, 11:02 PM
Not a big day for betting for me, too many unknowns due to all the ship-ins. It's pretty much just a day to enjoy the races.

Parkview_Pirate
12-12-2015, 11:08 PM
It should be an interesting race card with some international flavor. There are entries sprinkled into many of the races coming in from Europe, Japan, Australia and New Zealand. I’m not sure how much of an impact they’ll have because without a race over Sha Tin turf course they may be at a disadvantage.

For those of us who handicap the PPs ( ;) ) it's a puzzle, that's for sure. The horses in Hong Kong race in such a closed environment with so few exceptions, it's really hard to gauge how good they are.


Fortunately, tonight's program does have some nice data, at least for the feature races (i.e., the 4th)

http://racing.hkjc.com/racing/content/PDF/RaceCard/20151213_starter_all.pdf

kevb
12-12-2015, 11:11 PM
Maybe more of a place chance than a win chance, but I taking a shot with :7: Jun Gon. He has had trouble in has last tow races. Third and fourth races back were competitive.

ebcorde
12-12-2015, 11:15 PM
I'm only interested in the 4 big races. Able Friend still has it.

ebcorde
12-12-2015, 11:16 PM
posted their RPR ratings for Sha Tin

woodbinepmi
12-12-2015, 11:20 PM
Don't like keying horses going up in class but am taking a flyer on the :10: with :1: :2: :8: :12: :13: in the first.

Nitro
12-12-2015, 11:22 PM
Good evening guys! Ready for some HK action?

R# 1 - 8-5 W/ 10-12-1-4

GL

trifecta
12-12-2015, 11:23 PM
Good luck, everybody. :)

I like the :1: and :8:

Keying the 1 to the 8, 10 and 11.

Nitro
12-12-2015, 11:25 PM
I'm only interested in the 4 big races. Able Friend still has it.

Still favored in Race #7
http://bet.hkjc.com/default.aspx?url=/racing/pages/odds_wp.aspx?lang=ch&langRedirect=true

Parkview_Pirate
12-12-2015, 11:25 PM
Was struck by :8: 's eye catching final sectional time of 21:52, even if it was in a Griffin race. Today I did a track variant of that day and on a day when the average race was fast by .25, :8: 's race was slow by 1.84 which would give him a projected time of 125.14 today. This is really slow. BTW, it was a 5 horse race, he was 6-5 and won by a nose.

:3: Won a maiden auction (mdn claiming?) race in GB. Probably was not worth the shipping costs. Good jockey-3% trainer.

:10: & :11: are the early speed. :11: comes from class 4 and draws post #13. :10: draws from post #4 and has an a 10lb apprentice allowance meaning he'll carry 105 lbs. If he can break on top and get a relaxed lead, could very well be part of the Quiniela.

:1: has decent figures, but out of 8 starts has 5 places and shows but no wins. Post 9
:2: is similar to # :1: but likes to win. Post 1

:7: , :9: & :12: should all be finishing fast. # :12: has Joe Moreira and is likely to be over bet.

After all this I have no solid opinion of who or how I'll bet this race. :)

Nice write up. I think the winner is the one you started with, as the :8: does have some nice splits and is getting bet - we'll see if he's ready.

Small tri p/w: :8: with :4: :10: :12: with :1: :4: :9: :10: :12:

ReplayRandall
12-12-2015, 11:25 PM
The two premiere trainers of Sha Tin are LOADED today- John Moore and Tony Cruz......It will be interesting to see how many they win on this 10-race monster card.

Nitro
12-12-2015, 11:39 PM
Good evening guys! Ready for some HK action?

R# 1 - 8-5 W/ 10-12-1-4

GL

Results:

R# 1 = 10-8-12-4 - - QUIN – TRI :ThmbUp:

$2.00 WIN – 2 - $5.40
$2.00 QUINELLA – 8-10 - $21.80
$2.00 TRIFECTA – 10-8-12 – $131.60

lamboguy
12-12-2015, 11:44 PM
is TVG taking Sha Tin today?

woodbinepmi
12-12-2015, 11:45 PM
Taking Happilababy who has had trouble in all three outs in the second. :6: with :2: :3: :8: :13: :14:

Nitro
12-12-2015, 11:52 PM
R# 2 - 3-13 W/ 1-11-2-6

trifecta
12-12-2015, 11:54 PM
Race 2

:2: :3: :14: box

Parkview_Pirate
12-12-2015, 11:55 PM
Race 2: Keying the :8: .

Tri P/W :3: :8: with :3: :6: :13: with :3: :4: :5: :6: :8: :12: :13:

Parkview_Pirate
12-13-2015, 12:00 AM
is TVG taking Sha Tin today?

Doesn't look like it. I checked their schedule in the middle of the week, and they had Sha Tin on it for tonight, but after logging in, I don't see the program, and it's not on their schedule....

Nitro
12-13-2015, 12:01 AM
is TVG taking Sha Tin today?

I called them this afternoon because their tote info for HK wasn't listed and they told me they've changed their tote source company and will be back online next week. Sounded like BS to me! :ThmbDown:

ReplayRandall
12-13-2015, 12:04 AM
Taking Happilababy who has had trouble in all three outs in the second. :6: with :2: :3: :8: :13: :14:

Nice call....6-13-3... :ThmbUp:

woodbinepmi
12-13-2015, 12:08 AM
Nice call....6-13-3... :ThmbUp:
Thank you very much. The one thing I have learned about this circuit is that it is a trip handicappers delight.

Nitro
12-13-2015, 12:16 AM
R# 2 - 3-13 W/ 1-11-2-6

Nice call Woody!

Results:

R# 2 = 6-13-3-2 - - QUIN – TRI Bx :ThmbUp:

$2.00 QUINELLA – 6-13 - $31.70
$2.00 TRIFECTA – 6-13-3 – $277.40

Nitro
12-13-2015, 12:26 AM
R# 3 - 7-3 W/ 11-8-5-1

woodbinepmi
12-13-2015, 12:29 AM
Will be more than happy to take 20-1 on Penang Hall, with the 2 short prices racing green in their last while not changing leads in the stretch. :9: with :3: :5: :7: :11: :13:

Parkview_Pirate
12-13-2015, 12:31 AM
Race 3: Tri P/W :8: with :3: :7: with :3: :4: :5: :7: :9: :11:

woodbinepmi
12-13-2015, 12:41 AM
:7: Team Fortune in the third will go on the horses to watch list.

Nitro
12-13-2015, 12:45 AM
R# 3 - 7-3 W/ 11-8-5-1

Results:

R# 3 = 3-2-5-4 - – WIN - No clues on that BIG LS Placer

$2.00 WIN – 3 - $4.90

ebcorde
12-13-2015, 12:49 AM
Ming Dynasty - Flintshire - Highland Reel

Nitro
12-13-2015, 12:56 AM
R# 4 - 6-1 W/ 7-11-4-5

woodbinepmi
12-13-2015, 01:00 AM
I've got no clue, Do like O'Brien and Moore on Highland Reel at 5-1

Parkview_Pirate
12-13-2015, 01:00 AM
Race 4: Tri p/w :13: with :1: :11: with :1: :3: :5: :6: :7: :11:

woodbinepmi
12-13-2015, 01:06 AM
That's the best jockey in the world!

Parkview_Pirate
12-13-2015, 01:13 AM
That's the best jockey in the world!

Moore knows how to ride, that's for sure. Odd, the Magic Man didn't have a mount in that race.

Nitro
12-13-2015, 01:21 AM
R# 4 - 6-1 W/ 7-11-4-5

Results:

R# 4 = 11-1-13-12 - – QUIN - Winner took lots of late action!

$2.00 QUINELLA – 1-11 - $15.00

woodbinepmi
12-13-2015, 01:22 AM
Moore knows how to ride, that's for sure. Odd, the Magic Man didn't have a mount in that race.
Most jocks would have panicked when Harbour Master ran up on him at the 700 metre mark. Not him, stayed in control and saved enough to out finish the big favourite.

woodbinepmi
12-13-2015, 01:35 AM
Looks as if Mongolian Saturday is balking

Nitro
12-13-2015, 01:37 AM
R# 5 - 6-1 W/ 14-11-3-10

Parkview_Pirate
12-13-2015, 01:39 AM
Race 5: :3: with :6: :11:

:10: did look like he was unhappy - "worst behaved in the paddock", per Jenny

salty
12-13-2015, 01:40 AM
I'm putting a couple bucks on green mask just for fun

woodbinepmi
12-13-2015, 01:40 AM
Got to be a horrible feeling to fly a horse half-way around the world and he acts up 10 minutes to post.

handyman1968
12-13-2015, 01:44 AM
HK Sprint it's Gold Fun's race to lose because all his main rivals are drawn all the way outside. Of the Japanese contenders, I'd rather take Sakura Gospel just for the fact that Zac Purton is riding, local track knowledge. I would be surprised if Sole Power or Penaphobia wins. Don't think Not Listenin'Tome is up to that class and still think his best distance is 5F. He's got such a short burst.

Taking a punt on :12: Sakura Gospel each way

handyman1968
12-13-2015, 01:45 AM
Got to be a horrible feeling to fly a horse half-way around the world and he acts up 10 minutes to post.

That's what Able Friend did at Royal Ascot this past summer...lol

handyman1968
12-13-2015, 01:55 AM
What a ride by the magicman....didn't think he would be able to cross from gate 14 and he did it easily and got him a breather. Best jockey on the planet!

Nitro
12-13-2015, 01:57 AM
R# 5 - 6-1 W/ 14-11-3-10

Results:

R# 5 = 6-1-11-4 - – WIN – QUIN – TRI :ThmbUp:

$2.00 WIN – 6 - $8.90
$2.00 QUINELLA – 1-6 - $7.00
$2.00 TRIFECTA – 6-1-11 – $93.40

handyman1968
12-13-2015, 02:03 AM
They said there might be some issues with Able Friend this morning. A good race to take a shot.

Here's the official HKJC news on Able Friend..

http://www.hkjc.com/english/corporate/racing_news_item.asp?in_file=/english/news/2015-12/news_2015121300909.html

http://www.hkjc.com/english/corporate/racing_news_item.asp?in_file=/english/news/2015-12/news_2015121301141.html

woodbinepmi
12-13-2015, 02:09 AM
Got a big number on the #3 Apollo's Choice in his last race against better. Playing :3: with :1: :2: :5: :7: :8: :9: , worried about beating the :12: .

Nitro
12-13-2015, 02:12 AM
R# 6 - 9-3 W/ 4-6-14-12

Parkview_Pirate
12-13-2015, 02:13 AM
Race 6: :12:

woodbinepmi
12-13-2015, 02:23 AM
That was impressive by the Aussie newcomer.

woodbinepmi
12-13-2015, 02:30 AM
Someone needs to give Simon Baker a comb and a razor.

Parkview_Pirate
12-13-2015, 02:31 AM
Someone needs to give Simon Baker a comb and a razor.
:D

It seems the ladies on the stage crowding him during the picture taking didn't mind his appearance....

Nitro
12-13-2015, 02:33 AM
R# 6 - 9-3 W/ 4-6-14-12

Results:

R# 6 = 6-3-9-13 - – QUIN – TRI :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

$2.00 QUINELLA – 6-3 - $116.30
$2.00 TRIFECTA – 6-3-9 – $628.80

handyman1968
12-13-2015, 02:37 AM
Going with :7: Contentment in the Mile. He did beat Able Friend last time out and one on the rise. I don't think Big Red will ever be the same since he came back from Ascot. Silent Witness went downhill after his second Japan trip...I fear the same for Able Friend.

Nitro
12-13-2015, 02:46 AM
R# 7 - 3-1 W/ 2-7-13-14

Parkview_Pirate
12-13-2015, 02:46 AM
Results:

R# 6 = 6-3-9-13 - – QUIN – TRI :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

$2.00 QUINELLA – 6-3 - $116.30
$2.00 TRIFECTA – 6-3-9 – $628.80


Nice tri, Nitro!

Parkview_Pirate
12-13-2015, 02:47 AM
Race 7: Taking the :13: with :1: :2: :7: :10:

Nitro
12-13-2015, 02:47 AM
Nice tri, Nitro!

Thanks Parkview! ;)

woodbinepmi
12-13-2015, 02:48 AM
Betting the chalk in the mile, as long as Moreira can get Able Friend to the outside in the stretch he'll be hard to beat here.

woodbinepmi
12-13-2015, 02:57 AM
Steadied at the 1300 mark costing about a length, but was simply outrun in the stretch. Who rode the winner?

Nitro
12-13-2015, 03:06 AM
R# 7 - 3-1 W/ 2-7-13-14

Results:

R# 7 = 2-10-1-14 - – Nothing in that one - No clues on that LS Placer

Parkview_Pirate
12-13-2015, 03:08 AM
Steadied at the 1300 mark costing about a length, but was simply outrun in the stretch. Who rode the winner?

Ryan Moore. One of the best jockeys in the world, or so I am told.

Nitro
12-13-2015, 03:26 AM
R# 8 - 1-14 W/ 2-5-11-3

Parkview_Pirate
12-13-2015, 03:27 AM
Like the :2: here, with the :7: :10: :11:

woodbinepmi
12-13-2015, 03:37 AM
That race looked like something they would have at Santa Anita instead of Hong Kong.

woodbinepmi
12-13-2015, 03:41 AM
That horse looks real tired, barely can lift his head up.

Nitro
12-13-2015, 03:49 AM
R# 8 - 1-14 W/ 2-5-11-3

I figured I couldn't go wrong with the 2 top jocks on my Keys!
Results:

R# 8 = 11-14-3-1 - – QUIN – TRI Bx :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

$2.00 QUINELLA – 11-14 - $209.30
$2.00 TRIFECTA – 11-14-3 – $3,581.60

To Bad No Super betting = $11,646.60

Nitro
12-13-2015, 04:05 AM
R# 9 - 10-12 W/ 8-4-6-3

woodbinepmi
12-13-2015, 04:05 AM
Taking the :12: with :1: :5: :6: :8: :13: in the 9th.

Parkview_Pirate
12-13-2015, 04:12 AM
Small bet on :5: each way.

Nitro
12-13-2015, 04:26 AM
R# 9 - 10-12 W/ 8-4-6-3

Results:

R# 9 = 10-14-12-13 - – WIN – Lots of late action on the LS Placer

$2.00 WIN – 10 - $4.00

Nitro
12-13-2015, 04:45 AM
R# 10 - 6-2 W/ 3-4-1-14

woodbinepmi
12-13-2015, 04:45 AM
backing the chalk in the last :6: with :1: :2: :3: :4: :14:

Parkview_Pirate
12-13-2015, 04:50 AM
Race10: Keying the :14: with QP savers with the :1: :6: :10:

Nitro
12-13-2015, 05:11 AM
R# 10 - 6-2 W/ 3-4-1-14

Results:

R# 10 = 6-2-7-14 - – WIN & QUIN – Lots of late action on the bottom 2

$2.00 WIN – 6 - $5.30
$2.00 QUINELLA – 2-6 - $7.90

Well guys it was another fun & profitable time at Sha Tin ! :ThmbUp:

Have a good day & hopefully we’ll all get together again next weekend to fill some stockings.