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Nitro
12-05-2015, 08:37 PM
It’s another value packed day at Sha Tin with big fields in ALL 11 races both on Turf & AWT .
I'm looking forward to some nice returns.

Post Time Race #1 – 11:15 PM SAT. EST

GL if you’re playing & feel free to join in !

Nitro
12-05-2015, 11:12 PM
It looks like we’re going to have to deal with the J. Moreira factor this morning.
There was already a Ό Million HK dollars on #4 at 30 minutes to post! :eek:

R# 1 - 4-10 W/ 6-12-7-1

woodbinepmi
12-05-2015, 11:13 PM
Evening, have a few going to play later in the card. Looking forward to next week's gig race day.

woodbinepmi
12-05-2015, 11:20 PM
Will play the 6 Beauty Love next out, clipped heels at the 900 mark then rushed up to the lead and faded.

Nitro
12-05-2015, 11:29 PM
It looks like we’re going to have to deal with the J. Moreira factor this morning.
There was already a Ό Million HK dollars on #4 at 30 minutes to post! :eek:

R# 1 - 4-10 W/ 6-12-7-1

Results

R# 1 = 4-7-12-3 - WIN – QUIN – TRI :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

$2.00 WIN – 4 - $2.90
(Total Win bet on this one $955,961.00!! Maybe they knew something LOL)
$2.00 QUINELLA – 4-7 - $43.80
$2.00 TRIFECTA – 4-7-12 – $202.80

woodbinepmi
12-05-2015, 11:41 PM
Playing the :9: with the :1: :3: :4: :5: :12: in the Q's

Nitro
12-05-2015, 11:43 PM
R# 2 - 1-5 W/ 3-12-10-4

Nitro
12-06-2015, 12:00 AM
How's it going Woody?! Glad you could make it !

R# 2 - 1-5 W/ 3-12-10-4

Results

R# 2 = 12-5-10-9 - – QUIN – TRI Bx :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

$2.00 QUINELLA – 5-12 - $37.20
$2.00 TRIFECTA – 12-5-10 – $609.00

woodbinepmi
12-06-2015, 12:07 AM
It would be going much better if Whyte would have gotten Danewin Tiger running sooner than he did in the last race, other than that well. You?

Nitro
12-06-2015, 12:12 AM
It would be going much better if Whyte would have gotten Danewin Tiger running sooner than he did in the last race, other than that well. You?

I’m doing well thanks. I got warmed up for HK with some nice hits at GP this afternoon.

woodbinepmi
12-06-2015, 12:12 AM
Keying the chalk in the 3rd :1: with the :2: :3: :7: :8:

Nitro
12-06-2015, 12:13 AM
R# 3 - 1-8 W/ 12-9-4-7

Unicorn
12-06-2015, 12:14 AM
Japan Race 9... I like the :18: wp.

Nitro
12-06-2015, 12:19 AM
Japan Race 9... I like the :18: wp.

#11 w/the HK jockey, Zak Purton wins it.

Nitro
12-06-2015, 12:25 AM
R# 3 - 1-8 W/ 12-9-4-7

Results

R# 3 = 6-1-8-7 - Nothing in that one - Winner got hammered late !

woodbinepmi
12-06-2015, 12:39 AM
#2 Dynamic Voyage is coming out of a race where the top three finishers came back and won their next race. Playing that he will be the fourth.

Nitro
12-06-2015, 12:43 AM
R# 4 - 1-4 W/ 6-2-3-10

Nitro
12-06-2015, 01:00 AM
R# 4 - 1-4 W/ 6-2-3-10

Results

R# 4 = 4-1-3-2 - WIN – QUIN – TRI :ThmbUp:

$2.00 WIN – 4 - $5.20
$2.00 QUINELLA – 1-4 - $11.50
$2.00 TRIFECTA – 1-4-3 – $147.00

Nitro
12-06-2015, 01:12 AM
R# 5 - 1-4 W/ 12-3-8-10

Nitro
12-06-2015, 01:26 AM
R# 5 - 1-4 W/ 12-3-8-10

Results

R# 5 = 3-11-4-12 - Nothing in that one -No clues on that BIG LS (99/1) Placer

Nitro
12-06-2015, 01:34 AM
There's a delay for Race 6 due to Japan racing - post time 1:55 AM EST

woodbinepmi
12-06-2015, 01:51 AM
Don't like my draw but will take it on the odds I am getting. :4: with :1: :3: :10: :11: :12:

Nitro
12-06-2015, 01:52 AM
R# 6 - 10-9 W/ 11-12-14-1

Nitro
12-06-2015, 02:03 AM
R# 6 - 10-9 W/ 11-12-14-1

Results

R# 6 = 11-1-6-9 - Nothing in that one - Had Moreira’s horse in the wrong position

Nitro
12-06-2015, 02:26 AM
R# 7 - 6-5 W/ 1-12-11-7

woodbinepmi
12-06-2015, 02:28 AM
Taking 10-1 on the #2 Archippus to win and place

Nitro
12-06-2015, 02:30 AM
Taking 10-1 on the #2 Archippus to win and place


I just took #2 out and put in #7 because of the late money!

Nitro
12-06-2015, 02:42 AM
R# 7 - 6-5 W/ 1-12-11-7

Results

R# 7 = 1-5-11-6 - QUIN & TRI Bx :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

$2.00 WIN – 4 - $5.20
$2.00 QUINELLA – 1-5 - $38.30
$2.00 TRIFECTA – 1-5-11 – $526.00

Nitro
12-06-2015, 02:57 AM
R# 8 - 1-6 W/ 3-4-8-7

Nitro
12-06-2015, 03:13 AM
R# 8 - 1-6 W/ 3-4-8-7

Results

R# 8 = 3-1-2-7 - QUIN - #2 got the heavy late action

$2.00 QUINELLA – 1-3 - $49.50

Nitro
12-06-2015, 03:32 AM
R# 9 - 1-8 W/ 2-7-12-6

Nitro
12-06-2015, 03:49 AM
R# 9 - 1-8 W/ 2-7-12-6

Results

R# 9 = 1-8-12-7 - WIN – QUIN – TRI :ThmbUp:

$2.00 WIN – 1 - $4.50
$2.00 QUINELLA – 1-8 - $10.50
$2.00 TRIFECTA – 1-8-12 – $94.60

Nitro
12-06-2015, 04:08 AM
R# 10 -1-2 W/ 7-6-8-10

Nitro
12-06-2015, 04:26 AM
R# 10 -1-2 W/ 7-6-8-10

Results

R# 10 = 2-1-14-12 - WIN – QUIN – Late action on #14 – 25/1 to 17/1

$2.00 WIN – 2 - $5.40
$2.00 QUINELLA – 1-2 - $8.90

Nitro
12-06-2015, 04:42 AM
R# 11 - 2-14 W/ 1-9-3-4

ultracapper
12-06-2015, 04:44 AM
It looks like there are 4 or 5 that came out of the same race as the favorite did 18 days ago. That's the only info I have, the number of days last raced.

So Nitro, of the horses that came out of other races with some recentcy, namely the 3, 7, and 12, which would you say looks best?

ultracapper
12-06-2015, 04:46 AM
I see you have the 3 in your play. I went with the 3.

ultracapper
12-06-2015, 04:49 AM
I think I got it.

ultracapper
12-06-2015, 04:51 AM
Damn. By the slimmest he got beat.

ultracapper
12-06-2015, 04:55 AM
Holy you know what. Much rather be lucky than good. That horse paid $40 to show on track. Now that's a pari-mutuel to play for.

Does TVG pay track odds?

Nitro
12-06-2015, 04:56 AM
R# 11 - 2-14 W/ 1-9-3-4

Results

R# 11 = 8-3-6-2 - Nothing in that one - No clues on that BIG LS Winner

More fun & profits at Sha Tin this morning where the Tote was on the money!

Have a good day & see you next weekend for the Special International Sunday of racing!

ultracapper
12-06-2015, 04:56 AM
Maybe that's HK$. What's the exchange rate?

Nitro
12-06-2015, 05:05 AM
It looks like there are 4 or 5 that came out of the same race as the favorite did 18 days ago. That's the only info I have, the number of days last raced.

So Nitro, of the horses that came out of other races with some recentcy, namely the 3, 7, and 12, which would you say looks best?

I just noticed your posts. Not that it mattered because I don't handicap. All my selections are based on a very accurate Tote analysis. So while "recency" might seem important, as an outsider playing a track half-way around the world I'd rather put my faith in those who probably know a lot more about how these horses came out the races.

Nitro
12-06-2015, 05:06 AM
Maybe that's HK$. What's the exchange rate?

5 HK dollars = $1 US

Parkview_Pirate
12-06-2015, 05:06 AM
Maybe that's HK$. What's the exchange rate?

Hey ultra - the Hong Kong tote board reflects a $10 wager payout - divide by 5 to get the $2 payout.

If you check out their odds board, you'll see win (subtract 1 for American style odds) and place payouts.

TVG is commingled into the HK pools, so they pay track odds.

Tough beat in the last. The :8: got a perfect trip, but amazingly enough was touted by two of the commentators. I didn't understand the love for the :14: since he'd never tried the distance. Magic Man ran out of magic with 5 winners on the card.

Parkview_Pirate
12-06-2015, 05:08 AM
5 HK dollars = $1 US

Actually it's .13 - closer to 8:1.

Nitro
12-06-2015, 05:12 AM
Hey ultra - the Hong Kong tote board reflects a $10 wager payout - divide by 5 to get the $2 payout.

If you check out their odds board, you'll see win (subtract 1 for American style odds) and place payouts.

TVG is commingled into the HK pools, so they pay track odds.

Tough beat in the last. The :8: got a perfect trip, but amazingly enough was touted by two of the commentators. I didn't understand the love for the :14: since he'd never tried the distance. Magic Man ran out of magic with 5 winners on the card.

Did you notice the bad steps that Moreira's horse was taking in the post parade? They mentioned it too! After it was pointed out and I then noticed a slight raise in the odds on #14. :eek:
.

Nitro
12-06-2015, 05:19 AM
Actually it's .13 - closer to 8:1.


In HK the winner #8 paid $165.50 (HK $)

The TVG shows the Winner paying $33.10 US

The 8-3 Quinella paid $1,539.00 HK and $307.80 US

That seems to be 5/1. Right?!

Parkview_Pirate
12-06-2015, 01:15 PM
In HK the winner #8 paid $165.50 (HK $)

The TVG shows the Winner paying $33.10 US

The 8-3 Quinella paid $1,539.00 HK and $307.80 US

That seems to be 5/1. Right?!

Those are the payoffs, which are independent of the Exchange Rate. The prices posted on the toteboard are based on $10 wagers, while TVG posts prices paid on $2 wagers. Since you're wagering in U.S. dollars, you're paid in US dollars. If you bet $10 win or show on a horse, or a $10 Q or tri, the payoff you receive matches the tote payoff seen on the video stream.

Twinspires and Xpressbet show the payoffs based on $1.30 wagers, since you must wager in exact multiples of the Exchange Rate in their systems. TVG does the conversion for you.

Today's total handle (or turnover as they say in HK), was $ 1,386,344,285 in Hong Kong dollars. Multiply that by .13 and we see that the $US handle was US $180,224,757.05. Wow!

As a side note, the Hong Kong dollar is pegged to the U.S. dollar, but has changed over time, and is currently .13 US to 1.00 HK, or 7.69 HK to 1.00 US.

ultracapper
12-07-2015, 09:21 PM
The HK tote showed the #3 paying $40. TVG paid $8 for $2 US$.

So is the minimum at Sha-Tin $10HK in the win and show pools?

It was a great race. 14 entries. Money all over the place. I think there was over $200K on the horse I bet to win, and he was 13-1. Even if that's HK$, that's still $40K US$ in the win pool, on a horse at 13-1. in a 14 horse field. It was very cool. No handicapping tools on TVG however. I looked at 3 horses, noticed Nitro had one in his play, and went with it.

Thanks Nitro.