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Tom
11-21-2015, 10:48 PM
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/96123/new-york-lifts-ban-on-palm-sunday-racing?source=rss

horses4courses
11-21-2015, 10:58 PM
Chalk one up for the heathens......... :lol:

MonmouthParkJoe
11-21-2015, 11:45 PM
Im glad they did, its an antiquated law. The casino there is open on Easter and Palm Sunday but they werent allowed to race. Makes no sense. But theyve been running on Thanksgiving for a while now.

thespaah
11-22-2015, 12:48 AM
Im glad they did, its an antiquated law. The casino there is open on Easter and Palm Sunday but they werent allowed to race. Makes no sense. But theyve been running on Thanksgiving for a while now.
Never understood why Palm Sunday was a mandated dark day JUST for horse racing. Of course I'm not a Catholic, so how could I know.
I grew up around Catholics in NJ.....I knew no one who even mentioned it.
I guess it was just a "thing"....

Stillriledup
11-22-2015, 01:35 AM
I don't know, I usually like my racetrack to be a racetrack (novel concept alert) and not run their schedule around people who want to worship imaginary friends.

You have a license to be a racetrack, run horse races, it's not complicated.

PaceAdvantage
11-22-2015, 02:39 AM
I loved how some people actually acted like this was some sort of earth-shattering important issue.

To this I say...meh...

classhandicapper
11-22-2015, 09:53 AM
This is no big deal. I don't know any Catholics that change their routine much on Palm Sunday other than perhaps going to church. IMO there will be more resistance if they run on Easter Sunday. That's a way more important holiday. Most Catholics spend that day with family. The die hard players aren't going to want to miss a day gambling no matter what holiday it is. So it could create some conflict with family obligations. There are other dark days. They could just flip the dates.

andtheyreoff
11-22-2015, 02:13 PM
I don't know, I usually like my racetrack to be a racetrack (novel concept alert) and not run their schedule around people who want to worship imaginary friends.

You have a license to be a racetrack, run horse races, it's not complicated.

Yeah, it's not like many of their employees are Christian, and want to celebrate Easter and Christmas with their family and friends. They got some nerve not catering to Stillriledup!

Stillriledup
11-22-2015, 02:29 PM
Yeah, it's not like many of their employees are Christian, and want to celebrate Easter and Christmas with their family and friends. They got some nerve not catering to Stillriledup!

There are plenty of places to celebrate imaginary friends, the racetrack is a horse racing venue, nobody is stopping any of these people from taking the day off if a 16 hour celebration isn't sufficient.

I expect a racetrack to be a racetrack, if you need to celebrate, take the day off, nobody's stopping them.

Saratoga_Mike
11-22-2015, 02:45 PM
There are plenty of places to celebrate imaginary friends, the racetrack is a horse racing venue, nobody is stopping any of these people from taking the day off if a 16 hour celebration isn't sufficient.

I expect a racetrack to be a racetrack, if you need to celebrate, take the day off, nobody's stopping them.

Why the need to insult people of faith SRU? You're better than that. On second thought, I guess you aren't.

ronsmac
11-22-2015, 02:48 PM
There are plenty of places to celebrate imaginary friends, the racetrack is a horse racing venue, nobody is stopping any of these people from taking the day off if a 16 hour celebration isn't sufficient.

I expect a racetrack to be a racetrack, if you need to celebrate, take the day off, nobody's stopping them.If it makes good business sense they should run if it doesn't, then they should be closed. If they want to honor religions just close every Saturday for Jews and 7th day Adventist and every Sunday for the rest of Christians. They're not supposed to be working on those days anyway.

Stillriledup
11-22-2015, 02:49 PM
Why the need to insult people of faith SRU? You're better than that. On second thought, I guess you aren't.

I'm not insulting anyone, if you feel insulted that's a you problem.

Saratoga_Mike
11-22-2015, 02:51 PM
I'm not insulting anyone, if you feel insulted that's a you problem.

You aren't a serious person, so I'm not insulted, just calling you out.

Stillriledup
11-22-2015, 02:51 PM
If it makes good business sense they should run if it doesn't, then they should be closed. If they want to honor religions just close every Saturday for Jews and 7th day Adventist and every Sunday for the rest of Christians. They're not supposed to be working on those days anyway.

I agree. You could probably find a reason to close on every day if you want to, or, you could be a racetrack and run horse races like other racetracks do.,

MonmouthParkJoe
11-22-2015, 02:54 PM
I grew up Catholic and while I have never in the past wagered on these days, there is no reason why they shouldnt. This year i plan to though

andtheyreoff
11-22-2015, 03:01 PM
I'm not insulting anyone, if you feel insulted that's a you problem.

Of course you are. How is calling someone's god an "imaginary friend" not insulting?

For someone who always tells people to be more adult around here, you should be better than that.

Stillriledup
11-22-2015, 03:04 PM
Of course you are. How is calling someone's god an "imaginary friend" not insulting?

For someone who always tells people to be more adult around here, you should be better than that.

Like I said, if you're insulted, that's on you.

Saratoga_Mike
11-22-2015, 03:06 PM
Like I said, if you're insulted, that's on you.

Let's say I call you an idiot. Then you say, "hey that's insulting." My response: "that's on you." Like I said, you aren't a serious person. Few take your endless whining seriously.

HalvOnHorseracing
11-22-2015, 04:00 PM
If I understand the law, it simply allows betting on Palm Sunday, it doesn't require it.

Tom
11-22-2015, 04:30 PM
Sorry, SRU, still no racing on Christmas Day.
Does your therapist have office hours?

horses4courses
11-22-2015, 05:01 PM
Sorry, SRU, still no racing on Christmas Day.
Does your therapist have office hours?

There's always Aussie racing on Dec 25th....... :lol:

Stillriledup
11-22-2015, 05:25 PM
Sorry, SRU, still no racing on Christmas Day.
Does your therapist have office hours?

Good one! :D

Stillriledup
11-22-2015, 05:28 PM
There's always Aussie racing on Dec 25th....... :lol:

Calder used to race on Xmas.

Tom
11-22-2015, 05:40 PM
Ho ho ho!

PaceAdvantage
11-22-2015, 10:53 PM
You aren't a serious person, so I'm not insulted, just calling you out.Succinct and to the point. Bravo.

EMD4ME
11-22-2015, 11:16 PM
Last year I had to travel to the Meadowlands to bet the Emerald Downs card on Palm Sunday.

My 3 ADW's said, sorry, can't take bets from you today. I even tried to open an ADW with PENN's ADW but they wouldn't take my bets on Palm Sunday either.

Glad I won't have to do that again.

And before anyone might judge, I'm orthodox, not catholic.

I actually miss the days Calder ran on XMAS. Not because I bet but it was fun knowing there something running somewhere.

The NFL plays on XMAS, T GIVING. MLB plays on Palm Sunday and Easter Sunday.

Why shouldn't race tracks run?

To many people on track, they go to the track to see their unofficial family because they don't have a family.

If it makes sense financially, run. If it doesn't, don't.

thespaah
11-22-2015, 11:18 PM
I don't know, I usually like my racetrack to be a racetrack (novel concept alert) and not run their schedule around people who want to worship imaginary friends.

You have a license to be a racetrack, run horse races, it's not complicated.
Easy now. No one wants to get into a battle over one's religious beliefs.
Your approach here appears a bit selfish.

thespaah
11-22-2015, 11:22 PM
There are plenty of places to celebrate imaginary friends, the racetrack is a horse racing venue, nobody is stopping any of these people from taking the day off if a 16 hour celebration isn't sufficient.

I expect a racetrack to be a racetrack, if you need to celebrate, take the day off, nobody's stopping them.
But then the racing facility should be open just for you. Got it.
Ya know, I usually enjoy your somewhat 'different' views of things. It makes for lively discussion. On this one, IMO, you are out of line.
I don't want to discuss my view with you. Just take the criticism and leave it alone. You offered your view. I offered mine. Done.

NorCalGreg
11-22-2015, 11:22 PM
My favorite line in this entire thread:

"I expect a racetrack to be a racetrack, if you need to celebrate, take the day off, nobody's stopping them"

This sort of thing bugs the hell out of me....same with the no-life having people that want to decide what should and shouldn't be on my television.
-Don't like the content of a TV show? Don't watch it
-Against abortions? Don't get one
-Black lives Matter? Stop killing them
...and the band played on

thespaah
11-22-2015, 11:29 PM
Last year I had to travel to the Meadowlands to bet the Emerald Downs card on Palm Sunday.

My 3 ADW's said, sorry, can't take bets from you today. I even tried to open an ADW with PENN's ADW but they wouldn't take my bets on Palm Sunday either.

Glad I won't have to do that again.

And before anyone might judge, I'm orthodox, not catholic.

I actually miss the days Calder ran on XMAS. Not because I bet but it was fun knowing there something running somewhere.

The NFL plays on XMAS, T GIVING. MLB plays on Palm Sunday and Easter Sunday.

Why shouldn't race tracks run?

To many people on track, they go to the track to see their unofficial family because they don't have a family.

If it makes sense financially, run. If it doesn't, don't.
One reason is, there are people who work there who want that day off. And it is tradition. It is not necessary nor the end of the world if you or anyone else has to take a one day respite from placing a wager.
I often chuckle at those who complain when something is not available because of a holiday. Yet when the issue is placed on them ( so if your boss decided to require they work that same holiday) they come up with all kinds of excuses as to why it would never apply to them and some even react with base anger at the possibility.

EMD4ME
11-22-2015, 11:33 PM
One reason is, there are people who work there who want that day off. And it is tradition. It is not necessary nor the end of the world if you or anyone else has to take a one day respite from placing a wager.
I often chuckle at those who complain when something is not available because of a holiday. Yet when the issue is placed on them ( so if your boss decided to require they work that same holiday) they come up with all kinds of excuses as to why it would never apply to them and some even react with base anger at the possibility.

I agree with a lot of what you state but...

1) Most of the country runs on palm sunday. In fact, I think NY was the only circuit to not run...

2) The MEADOWLANDS was packed that day. Tons of NYers there to bet.

3) If certain employees want off, take off. Other employees can cover. I know I do for my Greek-Orthodox religous days.

Now if anyone is saying a horseman wants off, well then just don't enter that day and have no works that day. What can I tell you?

Again, most tracks in the country run that day. Don't see why NYRA wasn't running, in the biggest city in the country where diversity is aplomb and not everyone is catholic.

thespaah
11-23-2015, 10:07 PM
I agree with a lot of what you state but...

1) Most of the country runs on palm sunday. In fact, I think NY was the only circuit to not run...

2) The MEADOWLANDS was packed that day. Tons of NYers there to bet.

3) If certain employees want off, take off. Other employees can cover. I know I do for my Greek-Orthodox religous days.

Now if anyone is saying a horseman wants off, well then just don't enter that day and have no works that day. What can I tell you?

Again, most tracks in the country run that day. Don't see why NYRA wasn't running, in the biggest city in the country where diversity is aplomb and not everyone is catholic.
Horsemen don't get days off. The horses have to be fed, bathed, watered, stalls mucked.
i cannot take a guess why NY decided to ban horse racing on Palm Sunday. I grew up in the NY Metro area, and 80% of the people I knew were Catholics.
Never heard one of them even mention Palm Sunday. Now as for Easter.....That was sacred. NO hanging out with friends on Easter. Everyone I knew was de facto grounded. They all went to church and in the afternoon had dinner with any available relatives. And there wasn't diddly poo on TV....
OH well. It's over. Palm Sunday racing is now ok.