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Stillriledup
10-28-2015, 06:35 PM
Ill post sides and use the most widely available line at the time of the post. As full disclosure, I won't be making any selections (on or against) OKC due to CJs request that I not mush his team. CJ, you can let me know if any OKC is 'off limits' or not. Ill try and give a writeup when I can.
I'm calling this the 60/40 thread because out of the approx 100 games I released here last season, I had about 60 wins, thus, 60/40.
Ill be keeping track of wins and losses, feel free to post your own selections here in this thread as well as debate games or tell me why my picks are garbage.
Have a wonderful season everyone, lets try and Make some cash. :ThmbUp:
Two official picks for tonight
Utah -1 at Det
Pistons coming off upset win at ATL, quick turnaround here vs a hopefully underrated Jazz squad. Money coming in on the 'sharp' side.
Sac + 5.5 vs LAC
kings will be fired up here in front of energetic crowd, they play hard vs the clippers, 5.5 seems like some value.
Ill post sides and use the most widely available line at the time of the post. As full disclosure, I won't be making any selections (on or against) OKC due to CJs request that I not mush his team. CJ, you can let me know if any OKC is 'off limits' or not. Ill try and give a writeup when I can.
I'm calling this the 60/40 thread because out of the approx 100 games I released here last season, I had about 60 wins, thus, 60/40.
Ill be keeping track of wins and losses, feel free to post your own selections here in this thread as well as debate games or tell me why my picks are garbage.
Have a wonderful season everyone, lets try and Make some cash. :ThmbUp:
Two official picks for tonight
Utah -1 at Det
Pistons coming off upset win at ATL, quick turnaround here vs a hopefully underrated Jazz squad. Money coming in on the 'sharp' side.
Sac + 5.5 vs LAC
kings will be fired up here in front of energetic crowd, they play hard vs the clippers, 5.5 seems like some value.
You're fine picking on or against OKC, no worries.
Stillriledup
10-28-2015, 11:57 PM
You're fine picking on or against OKC, no worries.
Thanks. Appreciate that.
Trying to get Kings home to cover, LAC playing well, these Kings aren't half bad, they're competitive.
Congrats on OKC tonight, didnt see the game but looks like RW and KD were in form from the box scores.
Thanks. Appreciate that.
Trying to get Kings home to cover, LAC playing well, these Kings aren't half bad, they're competitive.
Congrats on OKC tonight, didnt see the game but looks like RW and KD were in form from the box scores.
Were down most of the game...Russ was fabulous, KD only so so. Kanter was really good and Waiters hit a couple clutch shots late.
NorCalGreg
10-29-2015, 12:19 AM
Ill post sides and use the most widely available line at the time of the post. As full disclosure, I won't be making any selections (on or against) OKC due to CJs request that I not mush his team. CJ, you can let me know if any OKC is 'off limits' or not. Ill try and give a writeup when I can.
I'm calling this the 60/40 thread because out of the approx 100 games I released here last season, I had about 60 wins, thus, 60/40.
Ill be keeping track of wins and losses, feel free to post your own selections here in this thread as well as debate games or tell me why my picks are garbage.
Have a wonderful season everyone, lets try and Make some cash. :ThmbUp:
Two official picks for tonight
Utah -1 at Det
Pistons coming off upset win at ATL, quick turnaround here vs a hopefully underrated Jazz squad. Money coming in on the 'sharp' side.
Sac + 5.5 vs LAC
kings will be fired up here in front of energetic crowd, they play hard vs the clippers, 5.5 seems like some value.
If you can continue that 60% win rate...I'll climb aboard in a heartbeat. :ThmbUp:
Stillriledup
10-29-2015, 12:25 AM
If you can continue that 60% win rate...I'll climb aboard in a heartbeat. :ThmbUp:
Lol, that's not likely to happen again, but I guess anythings possible!
ReplayRandall
10-29-2015, 12:34 AM
Lol, that's not likely to happen again, but I guess anythings possible!
To be honest SRU, maybe 10 games you won were on the lucky side, and in 5 games you caught bad luck for the loss. You should be able to win at 55% or better, but I do like you trying to be humble... ;)
Stillriledup
10-29-2015, 12:48 AM
To be honest SRU, maybe 10 games you won were on the lucky side, and in 5 games you caught bad luck for the loss. You should be able to win at 55% or better, but I do like you trying to be humble... ;)
I remember that I got unlucky 10 times and lucky 5, funny how my brain remembers it differently. :D
I know how hard 60 pct is to accomplish, especially with 100 or more picks, I think I was slightly unlucky to not at least split tonight, I liked my picks and was in both games to the end.
Tomorrow is another day.
Robert Fischer
10-29-2015, 08:48 AM
Knicks were at least respectable last night.
Melo Porzingas and Derrick Williams could possibly stabilize into a trio that makes them less horrible and simply bad.
Rooting for them to be watchable.
NorCalGreg
10-29-2015, 01:34 PM
Knicks were at least respectable last night.
Melo Porzingas and Derrick Williams could possibly stabilize into a trio that makes them less horrible and simply bad.
Rooting for them to be watchable.
Don't think the Knicks will ever win with that numbskull owner--it's almost like a disease that infects the entire organization. See Isaiah Thomas for further proof.
Reason I even bring something up that every Knick fan already knows is....there is light at the end of the tunnel. Warrior owner Cohen MERCIFULLY sold the team after over a decade of losing, and instantly, Golden State returned to respectability--resulting in an NBA Championship last year. It will happen eventually in NY too.
Stillriledup
10-29-2015, 02:24 PM
Don't think the Knicks will ever win with that numbskull owner--it's almost like a disease that infects the entire organization. See Isaiah Thomas for further proof.
Reason I even bring something up that every Knick fan already knows is....there is light at the end of the tunnel. Warrior owner Cohen MERCIFULLY sold the team after over a decade of losing, and instantly, Golden State returned to respectability--resulting in an NBA Championship last year. It will happen eventually in NY too.
You talking about the Raiders or the Knicks? :D
I posted the Rockets would beat the Thunder, no idea where it went.
Stillriledup
11-03-2015, 03:23 AM
I posted the Rockets would beat the Thunder, no idea where it went.
You did, I responded that you were reverse jinxing and i was proud of you for that. You get credit Mr McEnroe :ThmbUp:
You did, I responded that you were reverse jinxing and i was proud of you for that. You get credit Mr McEnroe :ThmbUp:
I'm going to pick just Thunder games this year and see how I do. I usually have a pretty good feel for how they will play.
ReplayRandall
11-03-2015, 11:26 AM
Must win game for Charlotte Hornets tonight vs. Bulls, as they will start road trip going to Dallas, then Spurs. Coach Clifford's job is in peril if the 0-3 Hornets don't win tonight, as expectations were high with acquisitions of Batum, Lamb and Lin, plus coming off 7-1 preseason......ML play- Charlotte +160 via Betonline.ag
Stillriledup
11-03-2015, 12:58 PM
I'm going to pick just Thunder games this year and see how I do. I usually have a pretty good feel for how they will play.
You'll have success doing this, being dialed in to the little things, do you go to many live games or just occasionally?
How does the team. 'Look' with the new coach?
PaceAdvantage
11-03-2015, 02:45 PM
I posted the Rockets would beat the Thunder, no idea where it went.Was that the thread with the masked obscenities in the title and beyond? If so, it was deleted for obvious reasons...this place is filthy enough as is... :lol:
Was that the thread with the masked obscenities in the title and beyond? If so, it was deleted for obvious reasons...this place is filthy enough as is... :lol:
Probably...I didn't pay enough attention, it was too jumbled and I didn't read it through. Sorry about that.
You'll have success doing this, being dialed in to the little things, do you go to many live games or just occasionally?
How does the team. 'Look' with the new coach?
I go to all the games, been a season ticket holder since day 1. I'll give the kids the seats once in a while but otherwise I'm there. I also try to get to games in Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio during the year.
I think they've looked fine. Taking Durant a little while to get back to where he was. His shot is there, but he had turned into quite the playmaker before his injury and is hardly getting any assists so far. He'll be fine. Westbrook has been amazing.
Stillriledup
11-03-2015, 06:11 PM
I go to all the games, been a season ticket holder since day 1. I'll give the kids the seats once in a while but otherwise I'm there. I also try to get to games in Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio during the year.
I think they've looked fine. Taking Durant a little while to get back to where he was. His shot is there, but he had turned into quite the playmaker before his injury and is hardly getting any assists so far. He'll be fine. Westbrook has been amazing.
I haven't seen them play yet, the west is strong, It's going to be SA, LAC, GS and prob OKC as top 4 seeds, going to be hard for another team to crack into that group.
Stillriledup
11-03-2015, 06:17 PM
One official pick for tonight
Sac +4 vs MEM
No cousins tonight for sac but they have looked impressive and much more dangerous w Rondo, this team isn't bad at all, lets grab the points, go kings go!
SRUs current record: 0-2
ReplayRandall
11-03-2015, 08:58 PM
Must win game for Charlotte Hornets tonight vs. Bulls, as they will start road trip going to Dallas, then Spurs. Coach Clifford's job is in peril if the 0-3 Hornets don't win tonight, as expectations were high with acquisitions of Batum, Lamb and Lin, plus coming off 7-1 preseason......ML play- Charlotte +160 via Betonline.ag
Easy win for Charlotte at +160
Stillriledup
11-04-2015, 03:54 AM
One official pick for tonight
Sac +4 vs MEM
No cousins tonight for sac but they have looked impressive and much more dangerous w Rondo, this team isn't bad at all, lets grab the points, go kings go!
SRUs current record: 0-2
Tough sledding, my guys mailed it in. Lucky for Memphis they didnt have 'clippers' on their jerseys or else this might have been a tougher test.
You'll have success doing this, being dialed in to the little things, do you go to many live games or just occasionally?
How does the team. 'Look' with the new coach?
I knew the Thunder wouldn't cover last night (didn't think they'd lose) and that the game would go under, but I chickened out. It is hard to pick against my team which is why I'm much better at horse racing!
Stillriledup
11-05-2015, 02:07 PM
I knew the Thunder wouldn't cover last night (didn't think they'd lose) and that the game would go under, but I chickened out. It is hard to pick against my team which is why I'm much better at horse racing!
I know what you're saying, if you pick against them part of you (or all of you) is rooting for YOU and your pick to win, which means rooting for the other team, or at least not being upset when they score.
Sports betting is 'easier' than horse racing because the take is much lower, just hard to get bets down legally in America, fan duel is ok, you know it's ok for the leagues to cash in (however they're cashing in on fantasy) but its not ok for us to cash in unless we live in Vegas. Sports betting, they say, hurts their 'brand' except when It doesn't.....or, something like that.
I was going to pick LAC Last night I thought they would win outright, but I would have picked them w points, I'm not even sure if they covered or not, I just never got around to posting them up.
Going to take OKC tonight -8.5 vs PHO.
thaskalos
11-08-2015, 09:59 PM
Going to take OKC tonight -8.5 vs PHO.
Who needs the freaking horses? :) :ThmbUp:
Valuist
11-08-2015, 10:21 PM
NOBODY hits 60% on NBA over a large number of plays. Nobody hits 60% on NFL over a large number of plays. One can do it in a short run, but just check the tracking sites. It doesn't happen. The guys on the other side of the counter aren't fools. They don't put out that many bad lines in which a non fulltime gambler is going to beat them 3 times out of every 5.
ReplayRandall
11-08-2015, 10:30 PM
NOBODY hits 60% on NBA over a large number of plays. Nobody hits 60% on NFL over a large number of plays. One can do it in a short run, but just check the tracking sites. It doesn't happen. The guys on the other side of the counter aren't fools. They don't put out that many bad lines in which a non fulltime gambler is going to beat them 3 times out of every 5.
Your right, that's why I'm ALWAYS an advocate for MONEYLINE play only. The spread was invented by the house, for the house, and only exists for their benefit....
NorCalGreg
11-08-2015, 11:40 PM
Was that the thread with the masked obscenities in the title and beyond? If so, it was deleted for obvious reasons...this place is filthy enough as is... :lol:
LOL....was wondering what happened to that "fawking" thread :lol: That guy just had a live meltdown
Stillriledup
11-10-2015, 06:59 AM
So much for the theory that teams don't specifically get up for the Clippers. Maybe the Clippers should have worn GS on their jerseys, that way Memphis would have just rolled over.
Thunder are 4.5 point faves over the Wiz tonight, mostly because Beal is expected to miss the game. Thunder have not played well in Washington at all, but I don't have much feel for this game. Going to sit this one out.
Going to take the Thunder -5.5 tonight against Boston.
Horrible second half, lost outright after leading in 3rd by 11. They stunk again without KD.
2-1 YTD.
Hate to do it, but going to take Memphis -1.5 over OKC tonight.
Hate to do it, but going to take Memphis -1.5 over OKC tonight.
Fairly easy cover.
Did you give up SRU? I'm focusing focusing on just one team and have four picks.
Stillriledup
11-24-2015, 04:29 PM
Did you give up SRU? I'm focusing focusing on just one team and have four picks.
It's a long year, I'm trying to be patient. I was close to releasing something today, but I don't think I have a 'feel' for it at this point. Betting against the clippers is probably a good idea, is Denver any good? You have any thought on that game tonight?
It's a long year, I'm trying to be patient. I was close to releasing something today, but I don't think I have a 'feel' for it at this point. Betting against the clippers is probably a good idea, is Denver any good? You have any thought on that game tonight?
I don't. The Clippers aren't playing well but Denver stinks. I wouldn't trust either one of them right now.
I'm just looking forward to some wins from you, I have two kids in college!
Stillriledup
11-24-2015, 04:43 PM
I don't. The Clippers aren't playing well but Denver stinks. I wouldn't trust either one of them right now.
I'm just looking forward to some wins from you, I have two kids in college!
:D
I'm looking forward to some wins too, can't rush greatness, hopefully soon ill get my act together and start paying that college tuition for you!
ReplayRandall
11-24-2015, 05:48 PM
Can't rush greatness!
Just try being mediocre first, you're a long way from being anything else, right now.... :cool:
Just try being mediocre first, you're a long way from being anything else, right now.... :cool:
Not really when it comes to NBA selections, he had a very good record last year.
thaskalos
11-24-2015, 06:23 PM
Not really when it comes to NBA selections, he had a very good record last year.
Yeah...but REAL men do it TWICE. :)
Stillriledup
11-24-2015, 06:39 PM
Just try being mediocre first, you're a long way from being anything else, right now.... :cool:
My last pick was a loser and if you subscribe to the theory that I'm only as good as my last pick you're right, that's not even mediocre or acceptable. I owe it to my legions of fans and admirers to give them the best pick possible.
While I put many of their siblings through college last season with a winning slate, there are more kids I have to support, so I'm workin on that, I appreciate you not cutting me any slack, greatness is the only acceptable outcome, keep me honest, I don't want to get soft.
thaskalos
11-24-2015, 06:42 PM
My last pick was a loser and if you subscribe to the theory that I'm only as good as my last pick you're right, that's not even mediocre or acceptable. I owe it to my legions of fans and admirers to give them the best pick possible.
While I put many of their siblings through college last season with a winning slate, there are more kids I have to support, so I'm workin on that, I appreciate you not cutting me any slack, greatness is the only acceptable outcome, keep me honest, I don't want to get soft.
Get your act together, SRU...because my OWN kid will be preparing for college, in a year and a half. :)
Stillriledup
11-24-2015, 06:54 PM
Get your act together, SRU...because my OWN kid will be preparing for college, in a year and a half. :)
You see? :D
You guys keep popping out kids and ill try and pop out winners to support them!
thaskalos
11-24-2015, 07:24 PM
You see? :D
You guys keep popping out kids and ill try and pop out winners to support them!
Yeah. We got the EASY part. :D
Yeah. We got the EASY part. :D
Days of popping out kids were over 19 years ago :)
Stillriledup
11-24-2015, 08:03 PM
Days of popping out kids were over 19 years ago :)
Now you just gotta worry about kids popping out kids, a whole new set of concerns!
Stillriledup
11-29-2015, 02:18 PM
2 official picks for today
Wolves +9 at LAC
Whatever the Clippers problems are, they didnt get fixed overnight, wolves playing well and even defeats, they're keeping games close.
Pha +12 at Memphis
This is a lot of pts to give for a team without an electric offense, maybe 6ers can keep this close, is Memphis going to be fired up here?
Current YTD 0-3
2 official picks for today
Wolves +9 at LAC
Whatever the Clippers problems are, they didnt get fixed overnight, wolves playing well and even defeats, they're keeping games close.
Pha +12 at Memphis
This is a lot of pts to give for a team without an electric offense, maybe 6ers can keep this close, is Memphis going to be fired up here?
Current YTD 0-3
Easy cover for the Wolves today :)
lansdale
11-29-2015, 08:35 PM
2 official picks for today
Wolves +9 at LAC
Whatever the Clippers problems are, they didnt get fixed overnight, wolves playing well and even defeats, they're keeping games close.
Pha +12 at Memphis
This is a lot of pts to give for a team without an electric offense, maybe 6ers can keep this close, is Memphis going to be fired up here?
Current YTD 0-3
2-2. Way to go.
Stillriledup
11-29-2015, 09:39 PM
Easy cover for the Wolves today :)
Never in doubt ;)
Taking the Thunder -2 over Miami tonight. Miami is playing pretty well but the Thunder match up very well with them all over the court.
Taking the Thunder -2 over Miami tonight. Miami is playing pretty well but the Thunder match up very well with them all over the court.
Lost by two, down to 3-2. Billy Donovan has a lot to learn, no way they should have lost this game.
Canarsie
12-04-2015, 11:08 AM
Lost by two, down to 3-2. Billy Donovan has a lot to learn, no way they should have lost this game.
The old man fell asleep early last night and missed most of the game. Its being taped today so I could watch it as it looks to be a competitive game.
Its almost at the quarter of the season so I'll ask for an evaluation and analysis from you since you see every game.
1. Does the team seem 100% behind the coach on the floor?
2. Is the ball sticking more with Donovan than Brooks?
3. Has a player like Ibacka have his play or space diminished by the new coach?
4. I haven't looked at every game but almost all of the bench seems to be in the minus column in most games that I look. Is that a stat you throw away for now or does it already have some meaning? You know how I feel about Kanter he really has to put in a lot of extra time in the gym. He needs to practice and practice to be even a little better at defense this type of play can cause dissension on any team not just the Thunder. Harden is getting ripped and rightfully so his defense is disgraceful and hurting the team.
5. Is Novack at a period in his career where he can't shoot the three ball anymore? If so just cut him (see SRU I play fair) and try to get a player who can give you 5-8 minutes a game and has a chance of being productive.
6. Are they where you thought they would be in the standings as of today?
7. If any, what changes would you make?
8. Do you think the press is effecting Durant on or off the court with the constant questions about free agency and his comments about Kobe?
9. Only the two stars had assists from the starting lineup and Durant led the team in rebounds with nine. Yet he would up -7 the blame has to be on his teammates imo. Am I right or wrong?
10. Lastly there is considerable distance between the Spurs and GS right now for playoff seeding. OKC is third at 11-8 and the Rockets are 8-11 and tied for ninth. It is no disgrace being seeded below the Warriors or S.A. but do you think that OKC will finish in the top four if no trades are made by any teams in the WC?
One more thing needs to be mentioned and that is Durant being inducted into the Oklahoma Hall of Fame. The guy (along with others to be fair) does countless charity work for the community and his IMMEDIATE donation of a million dollars to a charity right after the disaster was nothing but pure class. It didn't even get the amount of coverage it should have but I'm pretty sure that's the way KD wanted it. The fact that all his teammates hopped on a bus to see him get such an honor shows how much they think of him as a "MAN".
Durant shouts out Westbrook during Oklahoma Hall of Fame speech
http://www.si.com/nba/2015/11/19/oklahoma-city-thunder-kevin-durant-hall-fame-russell-westbrook
His philanthropy work is to be commended.
Kevin Durant, Thunder both donate $1M to Oklahoma tornado disaster relief
http://www.si.com/nba/point-forward/2013/05/21/kevin-durant-one-million-dollars-oklahoma-tornado-thunder
Kevin Durant taps Nike to donate $1M in products, sneaker profits to Oklahoma tornado relief
https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/kevin-durant-taps-nike-donate-1-million-products-145141563.html
The old man fell asleep early last night and missed most of the game. Its being taped today so I could watch it as it looks to be a competitive game.
Its almost at the quarter of the season so I'll ask for an evaluation and analysis from you since you see every game.
1. Does the team seem 100% behind the coach on the floor?
2. Is the ball sticking more with Donovan than Brooks?
3. Has a player like Ibacka have his play or space diminished by the new coach?
4. I haven't looked at every game but almost all of the bench seems to be in the minus column in most games that I look. Is that a stat you throw away for now or does it already have some meaning? You know how I feel about Kanter he really has to put in a lot of extra time in the gym. He needs to practice and practice to be even a little better at defense this type of play can cause dissension on any team not just the Thunder. Harden is getting ripped and rightfully so his defense is disgraceful and hurting the team.
5. Is Novack at a period in his career where he can't shoot the three ball anymore? If so just cut him (see SRU I play fair) and try to get a player who can give you 5-8 minutes a game and has a chance of being productive.
6. Are they where you thought they would be in the standings as of today?
7. If any, what changes would you make?
8. Do you think the press is effecting Durant on or off the court with the constant questions about free agency and his comments about Kobe?
9. Only the two stars had assists from the starting lineup and Durant led the team in rebounds with nine. Yet he would up -7 the blame has to be on his teammates imo. Am I right or wrong?
10. Lastly there is considerable distance between the Spurs and GS right now for playoff seeding. OKC is third at 11-8 and the Rockets are 8-11 and tied for ninth. It is no disgrace being seeded below the Warriors or S.A. but do you think that OKC will finish in the top four if no trades are made by any teams in the WC?
One more thing needs to be mentioned and that is Durant being inducted into the Oklahoma Hall of Fame. The guy (along with others to be fair) does countless charity work for the community and his IMMEDIATE donation of a million dollars to a charity right after the disaster was nothing but pure class. It didn't even get the amount of coverage it should have but I'm pretty sure that's the way KD wanted it. The fact that all his teammates hopped on a bus to see him get such an honor shows how much they think of him as a "MAN".
Durant shouts out Westbrook during Oklahoma Hall of Fame speech
http://www.si.com/nba/2015/11/19/oklahoma-city-thunder-kevin-durant-hall-fame-russell-westbrook
His philanthropy work is to be commended.
Kevin Durant, Thunder both donate $1M to Oklahoma tornado disaster relief
http://www.si.com/nba/point-forward/2013/05/21/kevin-durant-one-million-dollars-oklahoma-tornado-thunder
Kevin Durant taps Nike to donate $1M in products, sneaker profits to Oklahoma tornado relief
https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/kevin-durant-taps-nike-donate-1-million-products-145141563.html
I'll give my honest answers, I try to be pretty objective.
1) Yes, I think so.
2) No, it moves more.
3) No, but I think Ibaka is not the player he was since his knee surgery. He can still shoot very well, but he isn't as active and I think he has lost some athleticism.
4) Kanter has been better on defense. He is much better than last year so he is approaching average, but not there yet.
The bench has been really bad. Waiters is the only guy that can create. Kanter is good. The rest, terrible. But the big problem is as a unit, the defense is horrible. Morrow and Augustin are, believe it or not, worse than Kanter. Collison is smart but getting old...slow and can't jump. Waiters is pretty good. I personally think the Thunder should swap Kanter to starting and Adams to the 2nd unit. I also think 1st round pick Cameron Payne should get DJ's minutes. He can't play much worse than Augustin has and has shown promise.
5) Novak can shoot the 3, but he is basically Morrow that plays even worse defense. He'll probably get a shot at some point to make a shot but I wouldn't expect much. I don't think the Thunder are in position to cut guys they still have to pay otherwise. The 15th guy just doesn't matter enough to cost the team another 5 million or so in tax by bringing in another guy.
6) No, they haven't had a very tough schedule, I figured about 14-5. 11-8 is definitely not where they should be. They've been in every single game they lost, led or tied in the 4th, just haven't figured out how to close.
7) I addressed a little...Adams/Kanter swap, Payne playing more, but there is a bigger one I think would help this team immensely. Durant and Westbrook need to stop resting at the same time. When the Heat had their run, Wade and Lebron almost never sat at the same time. Not only does it help the bench players, it puts the ball in KDs hands more, something this team needs IMO. I love Westbrook, but as great as he is, KD is still better. I'll also never understand playing a shooting guard that can't shoot, but I've given up trying to figure that one out.
8) I didn't think so, but I'm starting to wonder. My guess is he is still a little timid after all the injury time and has shown more and more as of late. But that could be an issue for sure. People have speculated he'll sign for one year like Lebron did and see what Russ does the next year, but I don't think he'll want to go through this all over again. I'm still pretty sure he is going to stay
9) +/- I think is a good stat over time, but not game to game. KD and Russ will usually have the most assists because they usually have the ball. The bench rarely gets any because they stink. Scoring usually comes from Waiters shooting or Kanter rebounding or posting up. You don't get assists from either of those.
10) I think they'll finish top 4. They have too much talent to not put it together eventually. I think the Cavs were 9-10 at this point last year, maybe 19-20 if I remember right, and they turned it around. The Thunder have a new coach, and a bunch of new guys that didn't play with KD at all last year. I'd be more concerned if they weren't sitting 3rd despite a mediocre start. The other teams (LAC, HOU, MEM) subpar starts have helped that cause.
KD and Russ are both quality human beings off the court, as are many of today's NBA players. I really like how the league has grown. The people running it are the anti-Goodell types.
Stillriledup
12-04-2015, 12:16 PM
Great posts 56 n 57, very enjoyable reads.
To add to the comment about Anti Goodell types couldn't agree more, not nearly as much thug behavior, Silver infinitely more likeable/believable than Goodell and the NBAs high profile owners more likeable too. Just a better culture.
I checked, Cavs were 19-20 last year. All the struggling teams are capable of turning it around, but there are no guarantees.
Stillriledup
12-05-2015, 04:35 PM
Two official picks for today:
Tor +7.5 vs GS
just way too many points, They're just forcing you to take this side.
Boston plus 9 at SA
Lots of points for SA to give, this is not a rivalry game, Bos plays hard and 3rd game in 4 nights for SA. If spurs have 15 pt lead w 3 mins left, the backups will be in there, but boston will keep playing hard, Pop doesn't need to win by 20, he needs to win by 1 and get some rest.
lansdale
12-05-2015, 05:28 PM
I'll give my honest answers, I try to be pretty objective.
1) Yes, I think so.
2) No, it moves more.
3) No, but I think Ibaka is not the player he was since his knee surgery. He can still shoot very well, but he isn't as active and I think he has lost some athleticism.
4) Kanter has been better on defense. He is much better than last year so he is approaching average, but not there yet.
The bench has been really bad. Waiters is the only guy that can create. Kanter is good. The rest, terrible. But the big problem is as a unit, the defense is horrible. Morrow and Augustin are, believe it or not, worse than Kanter. Collison is smart but getting old...slow and can't jump. Waiters is pretty good. I personally think the Thunder should swap Kanter to starting and Adams to the 2nd unit. I also think 1st round pick Cameron Payne should get DJ's minutes. He can't play much worse than Augustin has and has shown promise.
5) Novak can shoot the 3, but he is basically Morrow that plays even worse defense. He'll probably get a shot at some point to make a shot but I wouldn't expect much. I don't think the Thunder are in position to cut guys they still have to pay otherwise. The 15th guy just doesn't matter enough to cost the team another 5 million or so in tax by bringing in another guy.
6) No, they haven't had a very tough schedule, I figured about 14-5. 11-8 is definitely not where they should be. They've been in every single game they lost, led or tied in the 4th, just haven't figured out how to close.
7) I addressed a little...Adams/Kanter swap, Payne playing more, but there is a bigger one I think would help this team immensely. Durant and Westbrook need to stop resting at the same time. When the Heat had their run, Wade and Lebron almost never sat at the same time. Not only does it help the bench players, it puts the ball in KDs hands more, something this team needs IMO. I love Westbrook, but as great as he is, KD is still better. I'll also never understand playing a shooting guard that can't shoot, but I've given up trying to figure that one out.
8) I didn't think so, but I'm starting to wonder. My guess is he is still a little timid after all the injury time and has shown more and more as of late. But that could be an issue for sure. People have speculated he'll sign for one year like Lebron did and see what Russ does the next year, but I don't think he'll want to go through this all over again. I'm still pretty sure he is going to stay
9) +/- I think is a good stat over time, but not game to game. KD and Russ will usually have the most assists because they usually have the ball. The bench rarely gets any because they stink. Scoring usually comes from Waiters shooting or Kanter rebounding or posting up. You don't get assists from either of those.
10) I think they'll finish top 4. They have too much talent to not put it together eventually. I think the Cavs were 9-10 at this point last year, maybe 19-20 if I remember right, and they turned it around. The Thunder have a new coach, and a bunch of new guys that didn't play with KD at all last year. I'd be more concerned if they weren't sitting 3rd despite a mediocre start. The other teams (LAC, HOU, MEM) subpar starts have helped that cause.
KD and Russ are both quality human beings off the court, as are many of today's NBA players. I really like how the league has grown. The people running it are the anti-Goodell types.
Haven't seen much OKC so far this season, but did catch last quarter of this one.
Already thinking exactly the same re many of your points - switch Kanter and Adams, more shots for KD, who is quietly having another great year - would be getting much more attention if Curry weren't playing out of his mind. KD should also be shooting more 3s - shooting .473 there. So far, WB has 383 fga, KD 257 fga - proportions should be reversed.
Not sure who is the point on second unit, but I know Waiters is a terrible passer. He also can't shoot - .409 FG%. I'd give more minutes to Augustin, who can pass and shoots 3@ .436. Re your idea for KD playing w/bench - remember how good OKC was with RJ and KD when WB was out a couple years back? I think they should try same thing w/Augustin.
3-shooting has improved to .360 this year, but 3 defense sucks, also .360. These two stats are crucial in the NBA now - they badly need a 3&D guy, but if they can't make a deal, I'd at least give more minutes not only to Augustin but to Morrow 3@ .386 and let them shoot. And don't let WB and Waiters shoot it - both are below 30%.
Other than these more obvious things, I think you're right to take the long view - it'll take a while for Donovan to acclimate to the pro game and for more long-term OKC players (KD, WB etc.) to get used to having to execute set plays. They should be better by All-Star break.
Haven't seen much OKC so far this season, but did catch last quarter of this one.
Already thinking exactly the same re many of your points - switch Kanter and Adams, more shots for KD, who is quietly having another great year - would be getting much more attention if Curry weren't playing out of his mind. KD should also be shooting more 3s - shooting .473 there. So far, WB has 383 fga, KD 257 fga - proportions should be reversed.
Not sure who is the point on second unit, but I know Waiters is a terrible passer. He also can't shoot - .409 FG%. I'd give more minutes to Augustin, who can pass and shoots 3@ .436. Re your idea for KD playing w/bench - remember how good OKC was with RJ and KD when WB was out a couple years back? I think they should try same thing w/Augustin.
3-shooting has improved to .360 this year, but 3 defense sucks, also .360. These two stats are crucial in the NBA now - they badly need a 3&D guy, but if they can't make a deal, I'd at least give more minutes not only to Augustin but to Morrow 3@ .386 and let them shoot. And don't let WB and Waiters shoot it - both are below 30%.
Other than these more obvious things, I think you're right to take the long view - it'll take a while for Donovan to acclimate to the pro game and for more long-term OKC players (KD, WB etc.) to get used to having to execute set plays. They should be better by All-Star break.
In regards to the FG attempts, KD did miss 6 games.
Augustin's defense is so bad he can't play much to be honest. I'd rather Payne, who has a nice stroke, but I doubt he'll much shot. I do hate when the Thunder kick out for a wide open 3 and it is Waiters catching it. I cringe every time that happens.
ReplayRandall
12-05-2015, 11:01 PM
Two official picks for today:
Tor +7.5 vs GS
just way too many points, They're just forcing you to take this side.
Boston plus 9 at SA
Lots of points for SA to give, this is not a rivalry game, Bos plays hard and 3rd game in 4 nights for SA. If spurs have 15 pt lead w 3 mins left, the backups will be in there, but boston will keep playing hard, Pop doesn't need to win by 20, he needs to win by 1 and get some rest.
Nice wins, SRU. Your win streak is now at four......You're in the zone.. ;)
Nice wins, SRU. Your win streak is now at four......You're in the zone.. ;)
I put the pressure on him, spring semester starts in January!
thaskalos
12-06-2015, 12:35 AM
I missed SRU's four straight winners...because I thought he was unprepared. It seemed to me that he was rushing with these NBA picks.
That is one thing he doesn't do!
Thunder -11 vs Sacramento tomorrow for me. Haven't played since Thursday, Kings had tough game in Houston tonight that went to the wire.
Stillriledup
12-06-2015, 01:56 AM
I missed SRU's four straight winners...because I thought he was unprepared. It seemed to me that he was rushing with these NBA picks.
I gave out 2 NFL winners in another thread also.
NFL 2-0 YTD ;)
CJ woke me up, I was asleep at the wheel. :D
lansdale
12-06-2015, 01:33 PM
Two official picks for today:
Tor +7.5 vs GS
just way too many points, They're just forcing you to take this side.
Boston plus 9 at SA
Lots of points for SA to give, this is not a rivalry game, Bos plays hard and 3rd game in 4 nights for SA. If spurs have 15 pt lead w 3 mins left, the backups will be in there, but boston will keep playing hard, Pop doesn't need to win by 20, he needs to win by 1 and get some rest.
+2
lansdale
12-06-2015, 01:38 PM
In regards to the FG attempts, KD did miss 6 games.
Augustin's defense is so bad he can't play much to be honest. I'd rather Payne, who has a nice stroke, but I doubt he'll much shot. I do hate when the Thunder kick out for a wide open 3 and it is Waiters catching it. I cringe every time that happens.
Forgot about those six missed games. Talking w/ other NBA fans re KD - agreement that he's close and possibly equal to the superhuman ability of Curry - more shots would make this clear. Since Payne headed to D-league will be interesting to see who fills that roster slot.
Forgot about those six missed games. Talking w/ other NBA fans re KD - agreement that he's close and possibly equal to the superhuman ability of Curry - more shots would make this clear. Since Payne headed to D-league will be interesting to see who fills that roster slot.
They play right across the street, so being sent to the D League doesn't mean anything. Thunder often do that just to get guys some PT then call them right back.
Thunder -11 vs Sacramento tomorrow for me. Haven't played since Thursday, Kings had tough game in Houston tonight that went to the wire.
Another loss. Thunder won the game but after leading by 12 heading into the 4th awful bench coughed up the lead and the Thunder actually trailed by 6 with under two minutes to go. Somehow they pulled out the win, mostly because the Kings stink.
Russ and KD both had triple doubles, but only one was the kind a player will brag about. KD had 10 turnovers.
Stillriledup
12-07-2015, 06:35 PM
One official pick for tonight.
Wolves -1 vs LAC
Clips played a shaky game vs Orlando at home, Austin Rivers was dreadful, the only time there was any semblance of flow to the offense was when Jamal was paying PG. they're just too all over the place.
no CP3 or JJ tonight.
Current YTD 4-3
thaskalos
12-07-2015, 06:52 PM
One official pick for tonight.
Wolves -1 vs LAC
Clips played a shaky game vs Orlando at home, Austin Rivers was dreadful, the only time there was any semblance of flow to the offense was when Jamal was paying PG. they're just too all over the place.
no CP3 or JJ tonight.
Current YTD 4-3
The Wolves have since become a 4 point UNDERDOG in this game...SRU.
Can you figure out the reason why, please? I hate to be burned twice in a row by tired "superstars" who are taking the night off. :rolleyes:
Stillriledup
12-07-2015, 06:55 PM
The Wolves have since become a 4 point UNDERDOG in this game...SRU.
Can you figure out the reason why, please? I hate to be burned twice in the row by tired "superstars" who are taking the night off. :rolleyes:
Wow. It went to plus 4 at pinnacle about 1 second after I posted this. Rats. Too late to change though, I'm going to stick to the -1 that was quoted.
Sorry folks.
Stillriledup
12-07-2015, 06:57 PM
The Wolves have since become a 4 point UNDERDOG in this game...SRU.
Can you figure out the reason why, please? I hate to be burned twice in the row by tired "superstars" who are taking the night off. :rolleyes:
I guess CP3 is playing, what else could it be?
thaskalos
12-07-2015, 07:05 PM
I guess CP3 is playing, what else could it be?
All reports indicate that we is out for tonight game. But he was supposed to be out of another game not too long ago...and he ended up with 20 points in the first quarter alone.
lansdale
12-08-2015, 01:45 AM
Another loss. Thunder won the game but after leading by 12 heading into the 4th awful bench coughed up the lead and the Thunder actually trailed by 6 with under two minutes to go. Somehow they pulled out the win, mostly because the Kings stink.
Russ and KD both had triple doubles, but only one was the kind a player will brag about. KD had 10 turnovers.
Surprised by the 4th quarter score and decided to check out. Starting to feel like something is going on with OKC - their body language looked amazingly slack for a close game - never remember seeing them like that. They could easily have lost - Kings missed 12 FTs. Even without KD, they would have killed these guys last year, especially at home. Wonder if there might be a chemistry issue w/Donovan. You mentioned that you have season tickets - am I imagining this or are you noticing anything different?
lansdale
12-08-2015, 01:48 AM
Wow. It went to plus 4 at pinnacle about 1 second after I posted this. Rats. Too late to change though, I'm going to stick to the -1 that was quoted.
Sorry folks.
Not your fault. You still got a push. Line was solid. Re CP3, it looks like Clips have decided to list him as probable for every game now to give him the option of dropping out if he needs to. From the way he's playing he's got to be dealing with a certain amount of pain. Still, tricky to bet - you have to wait almost until game-time.
Surprised by the 4th quarter score and decided to check out. Starting to feel like something is going on with OKC - their body language looked amazingly slack for a close game - never remember seeing them like that. They could easily have lost - Kings missed 12 FTs. Even without KD, they would have killed these guys last year, especially at home. Wonder if there might be a chemistry issue w/Donovan. You mentioned that you have season tickets - am I imagining this or are you noticing anything different?
I'm really not seeing that at all. But as for what is wrong, I have no idea. At least they are 12-8, which is scary if they ever get it together.
I guess CP3 is playing, what else could it be?
Redick also played.
lansdale
12-08-2015, 02:02 AM
I'm really not seeing that at all. But as for what is wrong, I have no idea. At least they are 12-8, which is scary if they ever get it together.
I'll take your word for it. Will keep watching.
Stillriledup
12-08-2015, 02:20 AM
Not your fault. You still got a push. Line was solid. Re CP3, it looks like Clips have decided to list him as probable for every game now to give him the option of dropping out if he needs to. From the way he's playing he's got to be dealing with a certain amount of pain. Still, tricky to bet - you have to wait almost until game-time.
I'm not going to take the push, I'm grading it as a loss, I go with the spread I list.
Thunder are giving 2.5 to Memphis in Memphis. I'm taking the Grizzlies. Until I see the Thunder actually play well I'll probably just pick spots to go against. They have been terrible lately.
I clearly have no feel for the Thunder yet this year. They are putting an epic beatdown on the Grizz in Memphis.
Thunder are putting up video game numbers against the Grizzlies. No KD or Russ in the 4th I'm sure, but the first 3 quarters were a thing of beauty. Good to see OKC show what they are capable of when playing well on both ends of the floor.
Stillriledup
12-08-2015, 10:18 PM
Thunder are putting up video game numbers against the Grizzlies. No KD or Russ in the 4th I'm sure, but the first 3 quarters were a thing of beauty. Good to see OKC show what they are capable of when playing well on both ends of the floor.
That's a crazy outcome, if vegas offered you Memphis plus 30 for any amount, you would have bet your house and everybody's house that you knew, I would also have bet my house, we would all be sleeping in the street. Funny game.
Stillriledup
12-09-2015, 05:41 PM
One official pick for Dec 9:
Bucks +5.5 vs LAC
Clips at Chic tomorrow night, potential look ahead game here, also players might be managed differently knowing there's a back to back situation. Seems like a lot of points in a road game, Clips still trying to find their rhythm.
YTD 4-4
Stillriledup
12-10-2015, 04:21 PM
Two official picks for tonight:
76ers +7 at Bkln
Should be more focused off humbling at the knees of the short handed spurs, Nets aren't good enough to lay 7 to anyone. Young guns from Philly keep it close.
LAC -1.5 at Chi
Clips looked strong last night and were engaged emotionally, their game seemed to have a better 'flow' and color guy Mike Smith was glowing about the substitution patterns. Clips were energized, no reason they can't keep it going.
Current YTD 4-5
Two official picks for tonight:
76ers +7 at Bkln
Should be more focused off humbling at the knees of the short handed spurs, Nets aren't good enough to lay 7 to anyone. Young guns from Philly keep it close.
LAC -1.5 at Chi
Clips looked strong last night and were engaged emotionally, their game seemed to have a better 'flow' and color guy Mike Smith was glowing about the substitution patterns. Clips were energized, no reason they can't keep it going.
Current YTD 4-5
Maybe the two of us should stop playing games with our favorite teams!
Thunder do seem to have turned it around and are really moving the ball and locking down on D. Play Utah Friday and Sunday and Portland Wednesday. 2 out of those 3 at an absolute minimum, should probably win all 3. That would put them at 16-8 before meeting up with Lebron on Thursday (TNT game I presume)
Stillriledup
12-11-2015, 05:20 PM
Maybe the two of us should stop playing games with our favorite teams!
Thunder do seem to have turned it around and are really moving the ball and locking down on D. Play Utah Friday and Sunday and Portland Wednesday. 2 out of those 3 at an absolute minimum, should probably win all 3. That would put them at 16-8 before meeting up with Lebron on Thursday (TNT game I presume)
No doubt I thought of that last night! :D
I'm going with OKC -3.5 tonight and taking the over, which sits at 204 even. No Gobert for Utah and the Jazz have been scoring well lately. Looking like a 115-105 kind of game to me.
Stillriledup
12-11-2015, 06:22 PM
Official picks for tonight.
Detroit -9 at Phi
Sixers had their shot to cover vs a bad Bklyn team and couldn't do it, not sure why they'll stay close to a much better team tonight.
Cavs -3 at Orl
Magic play hard, but are coming off hard road trip where they were competitive in every game, this is a tough spot 3rd game in 4 nights.
Bos +5.5 vs GS
This might be the night. Cs play hard, hopefully they can keep it close.
YTD 4-6
chenoa
12-11-2015, 07:36 PM
Pistons up 24 in 1Q!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm going with OKC -3.5 tonight and taking the over, which sits at 204 even. No Gobert for Utah and the Jazz have been scoring well lately. Looking like a 115-105 kind of game to me.
Split tonight, easy cover (won by 4, lol), not close on the over, way under.
Stillriledup
12-12-2015, 01:19 PM
Saturday Dec 12 official selections:
Hornets -2.5 vs Bos
C's off emotional performance with playoff feel last night, quick turnaround for road game here, only laying 2.5 seems like the right side.
Pelicans +7 at Chi
Bulls dreadful the other night in win vs Clippers, they're going to need to play better to beat anybody.
Bucks +8.5 vs GS
Wrong team favored? :D
YTD 7-6
lansdale
12-12-2015, 01:44 PM
Saturday Dec 12 official selections:
Hornets -2.5 vs Bos
C's off emotional performance with playoff feel last night, quick turnaround for road game here, only laying 2.5 seems like the right side.
Pelicans +7 at Chi
Bulls dreadful the other night in win vs Clippers, they're going to need to play better to beat anybody.
Bucks +8.5 vs GS
Wrong team favored? :D
YTD 7-6
Not to be busting on you, SRU, but Pistons didn't cover - thus, 6-7 - or did I miss something?
ReplayRandall
12-12-2015, 01:52 PM
Not to be busting on you, SRU, but Pistons didn't cover - thus, 6-7 - or did I miss something?
Detroit 107 Philly 95......SRU covers at -9.
lansdale
12-12-2015, 01:55 PM
Detroit 107 Philly 95......SRU covers at -9.
Apologies to SRU - maybe time for glasses!
Stillriledup
12-12-2015, 04:32 PM
Apologies to SRU - maybe time for glasses!
:D
I know the feeling, it's an optical illusion when I go 3-0, it's just natural to think THIS JUST CAN'T BE!!
thaskalos
12-12-2015, 05:20 PM
:D
I know the feeling, it's an optical illusion when I go 3-0, it's just natural to think THIS JUST CAN'T BE!!
Well, SRU...if you go 3-0 tonight...then I'll go 0-2. :)
ReplayRandall
12-13-2015, 12:21 AM
Saturday Dec 12 official selections:
Bucks +8.5 vs GS
Wrong team favored? :D
You actually had it right! Bucks 108 Warriors 95 , Bucks reverse cover -8.5...... :lol:
lansdale
12-13-2015, 12:25 PM
Saturday Dec 12 official selections:
Hornets -2.5 vs Bos
C's off emotional performance with playoff feel last night, quick turnaround for road game here, only laying 2.5 seems like the right side.
Pelicans +7 at Chi
Bulls dreadful the other night in win vs Clippers, they're going to need to play better to beat anybody.
Bucks +8.5 vs GS
Wrong team favored? :D
YTD 7-6
GSW bites dust. SRU heading for 60%.
Going to take the Thunder again -9.5 and the over at 202 over Utah tonight.
4-5 so far this year.
Stillriledup
12-13-2015, 01:23 PM
Going to take the Thunder again -9.5 and the over at 202 over Utah tonight.
4-5 so far this year.
You've only picked on or against OKC so far in your 9 games?
You'll right the ship soon and be in the black if that's all you're doing, you know too much about that team to end with losing record. I almost released the Clippers yesterday and they were ahead by 18 and I was kicking myself until they fell apart and needed the starters to come in and save the backups. Clips backups are more talented than last years group but man do they suck at actually playing the game.
Going to take the Thunder again -9.5 and the over at 202 over Utah tonight.
4-5 so far this year.
0-1-1 tonight, and it was a lucky push on the over. Thunder won but it was an ugly effort, furious late comeback to push it to overtime and pulled it out.
I'll also add Russell Westbrook did a few things tonight that no other human on the planet could have done, just insane athleticism.
https://vine.co/v/iZ3r3Mqn0Eq
thaskalos
12-14-2015, 08:24 PM
Saturday Dec 12 official selections:
Hornets -2.5 vs Bos
C's off emotional performance with playoff feel last night, quick turnaround for road game here, only laying 2.5 seems like the right side.
Pelicans +7 at Chi
Bulls dreadful the other night in win vs Clippers, they're going to need to play better to beat anybody.
Bucks +8.5 vs GS
Wrong team favored? :D
YTD 7-6
A full slate of games tonight, SRU...and no official selections?
We've got Christmas presents to buy.
Stillriledup
12-15-2015, 05:51 AM
A full slate of games tonight, SRU...and no official selections?
We've got Christmas presents to buy.
I looked and handicapped, couldn't come up with anything. Sorry. :(
Stillriledup
12-16-2015, 06:24 PM
Official selections for Dec 16:
Grizz +4 at Chi
Bulls were somehow down at halftime to Pha the other night, these guys (chi) are struggling to score baskets, I think 4 is a decent chunk in what figures to be an 80-80 type of game.
Heat -4.5 vs Bklyn
Nets are just bad, gonna hope heat plays a representative game here.
Suns +12 at GS
It's hard to win by double digits, they had tired legs vs Milwaukee the other night after playing SO hard for the first quarter of the season, have to imagine that was emotionally draining, but what do I know lol.
ATL -13.5 vs Pha
Sixers gave up a buck fifteen to a bad and offensively challenged Chi team the other day, this is 3rd in 4 nights, Pha has lost four of their last five by 12 or more.
Current YTD 9-7
Vegas will catch on soon I'm sure, but Thunder D has really stepped up so the under has been the bet lately. They have held teams to under 100 points in seven straight games (average of 93) and that includes a win in overtime.
lansdale
12-17-2015, 10:48 PM
Vegas will catch on soon I'm sure, but Thunder D has really stepped up so the under has been the bet lately. They have held teams to under 100 points in seven straight games (average of 93) and that includes a win in overtime.
Don't know if you got 208 or 204, so either a win or a push isn't bad. Not really playoff intensity for either team, so difficult to tell much from this game. Surprised KD not taking more 3s or taking it to the rack more.
Don't know if you got 208 or 204, so either a win or a push isn't bad. Not really playoff intensity for either team, so difficult to tell much from this game. Surprised KD not taking more 3s or taking it to the rack more.
I didn't make a pick tonight, didn't even look at the lines to be honest. That was just general NBA info for those interested. Thunder didn't play well so maybe it didn't matter, but there were some horrid calls in the 4th against the Thunder that gave the Cavs at least 10 points. (they did give Roberson a 3 when he clearly traveled too)
lansdale
12-17-2015, 11:24 PM
I didn't make a pick tonight, didn't even look at the lines to be honest. That was just general NBA info for those interested. Thunder didn't play well so maybe it didn't matter, but there were some horrid calls in the 4th against the Thunder that gave the Cavs at least 10 points. (they did give Roberson a 3 when he clearly traveled too)
I should have seen that you didn't post a number - tough game to beat regardless - both lines nearly perfect. Agree re refs, but that's home cooking. Once Cavs get all the starters back few nobody is going to be beating them at hom. Still thought OKC big three looked good - rounding into form. The bench, another story.
I should have seen that you didn't post a number - tough game to beat regardless - both lines nearly perfect. Agree re refs, but that's home cooking. Once Cavs get all the starters back few nobody is going to be beating them at hom. Still thought OKC big three looked good - rounding into form. The bench, another story.
Yeah, I think the bench needs a shake up. When neither KD or Russ is playing it is awful. Donovan has cut that time down to only about 6 minutes a game but it is still too much.
The only options are to let McGary play, Payne play, or a roster shake up. It didn't help that Morrow was out last night, could have used a shooter. But the problems are deeper than just missing Morrow.
Stillriledup
12-18-2015, 12:46 PM
Yeah, I think the bench needs a shake up. When neither KD or Russ is playing it is awful. Donovan has cut that time down to only about 6 minutes a game but it is still too much.
The only options are to let McGary play, Payne play, or a roster shake up. It didn't help that Morrow was out last night, could have used a shooter. But the problems are deeper than just missing Morrow.
Clips are the same way, the starters build a 10 pt lead and literally in less than a minute the game is tied w the backups. It's hard to watch.
ReplayRandall
12-18-2015, 12:51 PM
Charlotte had a little "LINsanity" last night, scoring 35 pts. as the Hornets won in OT over Toronto....
Stillriledup
12-18-2015, 01:29 PM
Charlotte had a little "LINsanity" last night, scoring 35 pts. as the Hornets won in OT over Toronto....
The documentary on Jeremy that you can find on Netflix is good, worth watching.
Stillriledup
12-18-2015, 02:24 PM
Offichy picks for Dec 18:
Cs -3.5 vs The ATL
Hawks struggling, Boston is just a much better team right now and nobody in the NBA plays harder than these guys on a nightly basis.
Mavs -2.5 vs Grizz
Memphis is bad news these days, they're a hard team to get behind.
YTD 11-9
Stillriledup
12-19-2015, 04:25 PM
Official picks for Dec 19:
NYK -1.5 vs Chi
Bulls have built in excuse to mail it in after last nights epic 4 OT game.
Ind +1.5 at Mem
Grizz have lost 3 of their last 5 home games by 20 or more. That's alarming. Not sure if they have a 'compete' problem or not, but it seems like it.
LAC -1.5 at Houston
Clips played well last night and only lost due to ineptness of the backups, I know they're mad at themselves for letting this one get away, expect a desperate and energized group tonight. They may be a little tired from playing last night, but they looked 'sharp' between the calls and their compete level was high.
YTD 12-10
Stillriledup
12-19-2015, 06:38 PM
Official picks for Dec 19:
NYK -1.5 vs Chi
Bulls have built in excuse to mail it in after last nights epic 4 OT game.
Ind +1.5 at Mem
Grizz have lost 3 of their last 5 home games by 20 or more. That's alarming. Not sure if they have a 'compete' problem or not, but it seems like it.
LAC -1.5 at Houston
Clips played well last night and only lost due to ineptness of the backups, I know they're mad at themselves for letting this one get away, expect a desperate and energized group tonight. They may be a little tired from playing last night, but they looked 'sharp' between the calls and their compete level was high.
YTD 12-10
All these lines moving steam wise in our favor, good to get locked in!
thaskalos
12-19-2015, 07:57 PM
All these lines moving steam wise in our favor, good to get locked in!
If sports betting was run by the horse racing industry...they would be calling you right now to tell you that your Indiana bet is a pick. :)
Official picks for Dec 19:
NYK -1.5 vs Chi
Bulls have built in excuse to mail it in after last nights epic 4 OT game.
Ind +1.5 at Mem
Grizz have lost 3 of their last 5 home games by 20 or more. That's alarming. Not sure if they have a 'compete' problem or not, but it seems like it.
LAC -1.5 at Houston
Clips played well last night and only lost due to ineptness of the backups, I know they're mad at themselves for letting this one get away, expect a desperate and energized group tonight. They may be a little tired from playing last night, but they looked 'sharp' between the calls and their compete level was high.
YTD 12-10
Stop picking the Clippers :)
Stillriledup
12-20-2015, 03:17 AM
Stop picking the Clippers :)
I need to borrow a brick wall from someone so I can do this to myself >> :bang:
Stillriledup
12-21-2015, 02:33 PM
One pick for tonight Dec 21:
Min +8 at Boston
Seems like a lot of points to give up w the Cs struggling a bit. KG comes back to Boston, hopefully eight is enough.
YTD: 13-13
Stillriledup
12-21-2015, 05:31 PM
One pick for tonight Dec 21:
Min +8 at Boston
Seems like a lot of points to give up w the Cs struggling a bit. KG comes back to Boston, hopefully eight is enough.
YTD: 13-13
Adding one more pick for Dec 21
ATL -10.5 vs Portland
No Lillard, gives Port good excuse to mail one in.
Vegas will catch on soon I'm sure, but Thunder D has really stepped up so the under has been the bet lately. They have held teams to under 100 points in seven straight games (average of 93) and that includes a win in overtime.
Thunder still playing great D...Vegas starting to catch on but they keep going under.
Taking Thunder -13.5 and under 207.5.
Stillriledup
12-23-2015, 06:58 PM
Official picks for tonight Dec 23
CHA -2 vs Bos
Cha lost to Boston the night after Boston played that crazy OT game vs GS, maybe Cha can turn tables here, Boston gutting out games but been giving up a lot of points recently.
IND -7 vs Sac
KIngs 3rd in 4 nights.
Bklyn +3.5 vs Dall
Mavs on back to backs here, Nets a bit improved as of late.
OKC -14 vs LAL
Not trying to jinx CJ but LAL on back to back after gutty win in high altitude, gotta go against them here.
YTD 13-15
banacek
12-23-2015, 11:31 PM
CHA -2 vs Bos
That's two games in a row..SRU...don't bet against the Kamloops Kid, Kelly O :)
Taking Thunder -13.5 and under 207.5.
Survived like 15 minutes of absolute garbage time with no D played at all to get the under and easily covered...120-85 OKC. 6-6 overall.
Stillriledup
12-24-2015, 01:12 AM
That's two games in a row..SRU...don't bet against the Kamloops Kid, Kelly O :)
I'm zigging they're zagging. I overthought things too much, used antilogic when there wasn't a need for it.
Stillriledup
12-26-2015, 06:03 PM
Official picks for Dec 26
Magic -4.5 vs Heat
Hoping Heat bounce from OT win yesterday
Bulls +2.5 at Mavs
More of an Anti Mav pick.
76ers +12 at Phx
Sixers holding their own in 4th quarters, this is a lot of points, small improvement seen with these guys, they aren't going to lose the rest of their games by double digits. Right? :D
***clippers game off board due to Griffin being out, I might post a pick in this game (despite CJ instructing me not to :D ) when I see the updated line.
Current YTD: 15-17
Stillriledup
12-26-2015, 08:11 PM
Official picks for Dec 26
Magic -4.5 vs Heat
Hoping Heat bounce from OT win yesterday
Bulls +2.5 at Mavs
More of an Anti Mav pick.
76ers +12 at Phx
Sixers holding their own in 4th quarters, this is a lot of points, small improvement seen with these guys, they aren't going to lose the rest of their games by double digits. Right? :D
***clippers game off board due to Griffin being out, I might post a pick in this game (despite CJ instructing me not to :D ) when I see the updated line.
Current YTD: 15-17
Adding:
Clippers -2 vs Jazz
A little revenge here for LAC as the Jazz beat them in LA last time. C'mon guys one freaking time :D
Taking OKC -16 and under 206 tonight vs Denver.
thaskalos
12-28-2015, 05:24 PM
SRU...any idea why the Pacers have become the underdogs in tonight's game against Atlanta?
SRU...any idea why the Pacers have become the underdogs in tonight's game against Atlanta?
Monta Ellis likely not playing is my guess.
thaskalos
12-28-2015, 05:50 PM
Monta Ellis likely not playing is my guess.
I saw that...but I can't convince myself that this alone is enough to turn Indiana into a home dog against Atlanta.
I saw that...but I can't convince myself that this alone is enough to turn Indiana into a home dog against Atlanta.
Atlanta playing really well, Indiana not so much. Pacers have lost 3 of 4 including a home loss to the lowly Kings, while the Hawks have won six in a row.
thaskalos
12-28-2015, 06:07 PM
Atlanta playing really well, Indiana not so much. Pacers have lost 3 of 4 including a home loss to the lowly Kings, while the Hawks have won six in a row.
All true. But sudden form reversals are common in the NBA. Indiana at home is a formidable opponent...while Atlanta away is a shaky proposition, IMO.
I make Indiana a 5 point favorite tonight.
Stillriledup
12-28-2015, 06:26 PM
Atlanta playing really well, Indiana not so much. Pacers have lost 3 of 4 including a home loss to the lowly Kings, while the Hawks have won six in a row.
This is why. Not only did they lose to Sac, but Sac was 3rd in 4 nights. ATL just better right now.
thaskalos
12-28-2015, 06:26 PM
Betting the NBA is a full-time job. Last night, I checked the overnite NBA lines...and Indiana was -2 against Atlanta. I checked again about an hour ago, and Indiana had become a 1 point dog...and the line stayed there until about 5 minutes ago. It is now back up to Indiana -1.5
How can an NBA bettor be expected to hold down a job, when the lines move like that?
thaskalos
12-28-2015, 06:37 PM
This is why. Not only did they lose to Sac, but Sac was 3rd in 4 nights. ATL just better right now.
Can't see Indiana losing tonite.
Stillriledup
12-28-2015, 06:42 PM
Official picks for dec 28:
Hornets -12 vs Lakers
Byron Scott says his team is 'fried'. Lets go with that.
Nets +7.5 vs Heat
Miami maybe letdown here after hard fought win on Dec 25 and then another hard game vs Orlando.
Wiz -1 vs Clips
LAC worked hard and gutted out win the other night, this will be tougher.
Sixers +10 vs Jazz
Utah offensively challenged with injuries, ten is a lot here. Ish Smith is in the house for Philly!
Kings +14 at GS
Lot of points here, lets go with the puppy to keep it close enough.
YTD 17-19
lansdale
12-28-2015, 07:48 PM
Betting the NBA is a full-time job. Last night, I checked the overnite NBA lines...and Indiana was -2 against Atlanta. I checked again about an hour ago, and Indiana had become a 1 point dog...and the line stayed there until about 5 minutes ago. It is now back up to Indiana -1.5
How can an NBA bettor be expected to hold down a job, when the lines move like that?
With disclaimer that game is in progress, a serious NBA bettor of my acquaintance agrees with you - makes Pacers -3.5, so he was on it. Price change may have reflected uncertain status of Ellis, who, however, is playing. As you say Pacers now and historically get more home cooking than most NBA teams.
Re NBA overall - I don't think it's an illusion - NBA is tougher to bet this year - league seems to be moving more in the direction of parity - more teams closer to .500.
Not betting Chicago tonight? They're always tough against good teams.
thaskalos
12-28-2015, 08:11 PM
With disclaimer that game is in progress, a serious NBA bettor of my acquaintance agrees with you - makes Pacers -3.5, so he was on it. Price change may have reflected uncertain status of Ellis, who, however, is playing. As you say Pacers now and historically get more home cooking than most NBA teams.
Re NBA overall - I don't think it's an illusion - NBA is tougher to bet this year - league seems to be moving more in the direction of parity - more teams closer to .500.
Not betting Chicago tonight? They're always tough against good teams.
I have Toronto favored by 1.5 in that game...but the discrepancy isn't worth a bet...IMO.
lansdale
12-28-2015, 08:38 PM
I have Toronto favored by 1.5 in that game...but the discrepancy isn't worth a bet...IMO.
Agree - line too accurate to mess with imho. Still like Bulls outright though.
thaskalos
12-29-2015, 05:59 PM
Is Dwyane Wade's bruised hip going to keep him out of tonight's lineup?
I can get the Heat +5...and that looks mighty good to me.
thaskalos
12-29-2015, 10:25 PM
Is Dwyane Wade's bruised hip going to keep him out of tonight's lineup?
I can get the Heat +5...and that looks mighty good to me.
I got Miami +5, and the game is tied at 83 and heading into overtime...without either team scoring for the last 2:57 of the game. :bang:
My betting stinks, but the Thunder have started playing Payne as I was suggesting and the results for two games are very nice.
Stillriledup
12-30-2015, 04:41 AM
Official picks for Dec 30:
LAC -1.5 at Cha
Clips getting into better rhythm with their backups with the increased playing time of Cole Aldrich who has been playing well.
Boston -12.5 vs LAL
Lakers 'fried' according to Byron Scott, this is 3rd in 4 nights.
Dallas +8.5 vs GS
Seems like a lot of points, hopefully Dallas will show up mentally and be engaged for the full 48.
YTD 19-22
Taking Thunder -15 for two units vs Suns tonight. Suns are terrible and Bledsoe out for the year. Seems crazy the spread is about the same as it was two nights ago for a much better Bucks team.
Valuist
12-31-2015, 12:49 PM
Taking Thunder -15 for two units vs Suns tonight. Suns are terrible and Bledsoe out for the year. Seems crazy the spread is about the same as it was two nights ago for a much better Bucks team.
I'm trying to determine how much Bledsoe is worth to the line. He's a good player. When Curry was ruled out last night, there was about a 5 1/2 point move, and that's pretty big. Jordan was worth 6 1/2-7 points in his prime. Shaq pretty close to that.
Suns on a 6-16 ATS run and 3-8 under run.
Valuist
12-31-2015, 12:56 PM
Having said that, I'd lean toward the over here. Two uptempo teams. When teams are held in the 70s (as Phoenix was last night), they are embarrassed. Losing is one thing, but not scoring personally affects them. And we know the Thunder never need their arm twisted to go uptempo. OVER 213.
Valuist
12-31-2015, 11:09 PM
Having said that, I'd lean toward the over here. Two uptempo teams. When teams are held in the 70s (as Phoenix was last night), they are embarrassed. Losing is one thing, but not scoring personally affects them. And we know the Thunder never need their arm twisted to go uptempo. OVER 213.
I'll take it.
Stillriledup
01-02-2016, 05:06 PM
NO official picks tonight but for what it's worth, I was CLOSE to picking OKC (less pts than they have been giving in a while) Den (seems like too many to give for GS at this point in time) and LAC (but 12.5 is too rich for my blood)
Just didnt like either one enough to release officially.
GL tonight if you play.
NO official picks tonight but for what it's worth, I was CLOSE to picking OKC (less pts than they have been giving in a while) Den (seems like too many to give for GS at this point in time) and LAC (but 12.5 is too rich for my blood)
Just didnt like either one enough to release officially.
GL tonight if you play.
I just had to stop picking them for the easy win to come!
The Thunder will most likely be favored in their next 17 games before playing Golden State on the road on February 6th. At 24-10, they probably should win at least 14 of these and get to at worst 38-13 before that match up.
Stillriledup
01-02-2016, 10:51 PM
I just had to stop picking them for the easy win to come!
The Thunder will most likely be favored in their next 17 games before playing Golden State on the road on February 6th. At 24-10, they probably should win at least 14 of these and get to at worst 38-13 before that match up.
I thought about you when I saw the line and thought if CJ doesn't make them an Official pick they will win n cover! Me liking them but not officially picking them either was also a boost!
Stillriledup
01-03-2016, 03:06 PM
NO official picks tonight but for what it's worth, I was CLOSE to picking OKC (less pts than they have been giving in a while) Den (seems like too many to give for GS at this point in time) and LAC (but 12.5 is too rich for my blood)
Just didnt like either one enough to release officially.
GL tonight if you play.
Of course would have been 3-0 with these. No surprise :D
Stillriledup
01-03-2016, 03:16 PM
Official picks for Jan 3
Hawks -4.5 vs Knicks.
ATL Locked in and comes in rested today.
LAL +1 vs Phx
Suns gave up 7 million 4 hundred thousand nine hundred 32 points in their last game to the Kings of all teams. Hard to bet Lakers without getting boatloads of points, but one team is sharp and the other team is not. Hopefully not too obvious here. 4th game in 5 nights for these Suns.
YTD 21-23
Stillriledup
01-04-2016, 06:50 PM
Official picks for Jan 4:
Wolves -6.5 at Phi
Sixers coming off long road trip to west coast, which is tough the first game back, also this is 3rd in 4 nights.
Boston -7 at Nets
Little revenge on the road here, spread seems high but expect Cs to be motivated.
Rockets -2.5 at Jazz
These guys are due, their last 5 games were against good or competitive teams (class drop) while Utah has played weaker competition of late (class rise).
YTD 22-24
Stillriledup
01-05-2016, 04:20 PM
Official picks for Jan 5:
Hawks -8 vs Knicks
These teams played the other day in Ny and ATL mailed in the game. Hopefully NYK returns the favor.
Lakers +13.5 vs GS
Didnt want to do it, just too many points.
YTD 23-26
Stillriledup
01-05-2016, 04:48 PM
Official picks for Jan 4:
Wolves -6.5 at Phi
Sixers coming off long road trip to west coast, which is tough the first game back, also this is 3rd in 4 nights.
Boston -7 at Nets
Little revenge on the road here, spread seems high but expect Cs to be motivated.
Rockets -2.5 at Jazz
These guys are due, their last 5 games were against good or competitive teams (class drop) while Utah has played weaker competition of late (class rise).
YTD 22-24
I lost the Rockets game by 1/2 point because a fan shined a laser at James Harden while shooting free throws. Amazing the lengths people go to defeat the great SRU! :D
Stillriledup
01-06-2016, 04:12 PM
Two official picks for Jan 6:
Clippers -3.5
Cha -2
YTD 23-28
Stillriledup
01-12-2016, 04:05 PM
Two official picks for Jan 12
NYK +1 vs Bos
Knicks playing well these days, no reason to not expect another spirited effort.
NO -3.5 vs LAL
these guys looked good vs Clipoers the other night.
YTD 24-29
Robert Fischer
01-13-2016, 09:00 AM
Knicks win, but Melo turned his ankle for the 2nd time in a month.
They just had an easy stretch of games (save for an 'impossible' game @Spurs that they almost won...), but if Melo is on the bench it should expose their lack of depth.
Knicks are interesting. When they are firing on all cylinders they look as though they could possibly compete for the last playoff spot.
Thunder are 2-8 against the spread in their last 10. Their 27-12 record is a mirage. They just aren't playing well at all.
ReplayRandall
01-13-2016, 09:22 AM
Thunder are 2-8 against the spread in their last 10. Their 27-12 record is a mirage. They just aren't playing well at all.
On the flip side, the Spurs are a red hot 14-3 ATS in last 17.....
Mavs are resting Williams, Nowitzki, Parsons, and Matthews tonight. Spread went from 9.5 to 11. I have to think that isn't enough, taking the Thunder.
On a 1 game winning streak, yeah! Going to take the Thunder again over the Wolves tonight, -13 is current spread.
thaskalos
01-15-2016, 01:06 PM
Who are the Bulls resting tonight...and they are dogs at home against the Mavericks?
Who are the Bulls resting tonight...and they are dogs at home against the Mavericks?
Rose is supposedly returning. Is he that much of a negative these days?
thaskalos
01-15-2016, 01:57 PM
Rose is supposedly returning. Is he that much of a negative these days?
From a betting standpoint...pro basketball can hardly be taken seriously. There is no reliable injury information out there...and coaches often decide to rest key players at the last second before a game. The lines move in crazy ways...and there is no visible explanation for such movements.
The Bulls should rightly be 4.5 point favorites tonight, IMO...and they are 1.5 point UNDERDOGS.
From a betting standpoint...pro basketball can hardly be taken seriously. There is no reliable injury information out there...and coaches often decide to rest key players at the last second before a game. The lines move in crazy ways...and there is no visible explanation for such movements.
The Bulls should rightly be 4.5 point favorites tonight, IMO...and they are 1.5 point UNDERDOGS.
My only guess is they are coming off an overtime win on the road and now have to play a rested Mavs team. The Mavs sat out all five starters against OKC on Wednesday. Also, the Mavs beat them in a similar situation the day after Christmas. Mavs were rested, Bulls had thumped the Thunder day before.
thaskalos
01-15-2016, 02:13 PM
My only guess is they are coming off an overtime win on the road and now have to play a rested Mavs team. The Mavs sat out all five starters against OKC on Wednesday. Also, the Mavs beat them in a similar situation the day after Christmas. Mavs were rested, Bulls had thumped the Thunder day before.
This is true...but the Maverick starters had all played the night before, so, it wasn't much of a rest overall. This alone cannot account for this large point shift...IMO.
Yes...Dallas beat the Bulls in a similar situation the day after Christmas...but that game was in Dallas. The Bulls are strong at home, especially against the decent teams...while Dallas is shaky on the road.
I wish I could trust this game enough to put down a decent bet.
lansdale
01-15-2016, 03:52 PM
From a betting standpoint...pro basketball can hardly be taken seriously. There is no reliable injury information out there...and coaches often decide to rest key players at the last second before a game. The lines move in crazy ways...and there is no visible explanation for such movements.
The Bulls should rightly be 4.5 point favorites tonight, IMO...and they are 1.5 point UNDERDOGS.
Gasol is supposedly a question mark for tonight's game - might explain the line, since I think with Gasol playing, your original line is close to correct. As someone who likes to bet the Bulls, you're in somewhat of a tougher spot than most bettors, since the team has more than its fair share of old and injured players - you don't always know who's playing. I know one serious bettor of his local NBA team who used to call the team office late in the day to check player status for the night's game.
Stillriledup
01-15-2016, 07:09 PM
Two official picks for tonight jan 15
Suns + 9 vs Boston
Cs 3rd in 4 nights, this just seems like a lot of points.
Den +3 vs Mia
Heat looked horrible vs LAC the other night, they fell apart, LAC 3rd string PG had NINE steals, seemed like they all came within a 5 min span. Tough to think the right team is favored here.
YTD 25-30
lansdale
01-15-2016, 07:16 PM
This is true...but the Maverick starters had all played the night before, so, it wasn't much of a rest overall. This alone cannot account for this large point shift...IMO.
Yes...Dallas beat the Bulls in a similar situation the day after Christmas...but that game was in Dallas. The Bulls are strong at home, especially against the decent teams...while Dallas is shaky on the road.
I wish I could trust this game enough to put down a decent bet.
....is playing. Called my friend - he makes game Bulls -1.5. Line currently Bulls -1, so no play.
Canarsie
01-16-2016, 09:04 AM
From a betting standpoint...pro basketball can hardly be taken seriously. There is no reliable injury information out there...and coaches often decide to rest key players at the last second before a game. The lines move in crazy ways...and there is no visible explanation for such movements.
The Bulls should rightly be 4.5 point favorites tonight, IMO...and they are 1.5 point UNDERDOGS.
That will change immediately if Adam Silver gets his wish for sports wagering. All that info will be readily available imo with heavy fines for teams skirting it.
The last thing Silver and the NBA would need is some scandal involving injuries, playing time, (I believe they will list minute restrictions) or something else.
My two cents for what its worth
Robert Fischer
01-16-2016, 11:02 AM
Memphis -4 vs NY Knicks
Porzingis and Melo fighting injuries, probably going to get a rest.
Knicks have some energy guys, but their lack of depth probably gets exposed here in a double digit Memphis win.
This is true...but the Maverick starters had all played the night before, so, it wasn't much of a rest overall. This alone cannot account for this large point shift...IMO.
Yes...Dallas beat the Bulls in a similar situation the day after Christmas...but that game was in Dallas. The Bulls are strong at home, especially against the decent teams...while Dallas is shaky on the road.
I wish I could trust this game enough to put down a decent bet.
Sometimes, they just know. :)
lansdale
01-16-2016, 04:40 PM
From a betting standpoint...pro basketball can hardly be taken seriously. There is no reliable injury information out there...and coaches often decide to rest key players at the last second before a game. The lines move in crazy ways...and there is no visible explanation for such movements.
The Bulls should rightly be 4.5 point favorites tonight, IMO...and they are 1.5 point UNDERDOGS.
Looks like cj called it on this game. The return of Rose lost what should have been a comfortable win for the Bulls by reverting to taking too many shots and generally trying to control the game. Meanwhile, Butler, who had the Bulls' first 50-pt. game since MJ the other night, can barely get his hands on the ball.
Rose has always had a horrible hoops IQ and now he can't even play - why is he getting so many minutes? - why is he allowed to control the ball? I can't remember ever seeing such blatant stupidity by a coach in my life - really makes me think that Rose is blackmailing the Bulls' organization.
Robert Fischer
01-16-2016, 07:52 PM
Memphis -4 vs NY Knicks
Porzingis and Melo fighting injuries, probably going to get a rest.
Knicks have some energy guys, but their lack of depth probably gets exposed here in a double digit Memphis win.
line has moved from -4 to -5.5 :cool:
Robert Fischer
01-17-2016, 10:57 AM
line has moved from -4 to -5.5 :cool:
Porzingis(shoulder) played and played efficiently but Memphis wins 103-95
Stillriledup
01-17-2016, 02:14 PM
line has moved from -4 to -5.5 :cool:
Good call, nyk has been playing well n hard recently including near miss at SA, they were due for a little bit of an off effort.
Going with Thunder to cover 3rd straight big number in a row, -9.5 over Miami today. Dumber guys than me have won three in a row!
Stillriledup
01-17-2016, 05:12 PM
Going with Thunder to cover 3rd straight big number in a row, -9.5 over Miami today. Dumber guys than me have won three in a row!
Hey I resemble that comment!! :lol:
Miami was awful at LAC and was down 20 at halftime in altitude n gutted out a win, this could be one of those ugly Games for the Heat. 9.5 seems low all things considered.
Taking Denver +8.5 over the Thunder tonight in Denver, though of course I hope I'm wrong. Denver is playing well and just seems like too many points in a place the Thunder have struggled in the past.
Taking Denver +8.5 over the Thunder tonight in Denver, though of course I hope I'm wrong. Denver is playing well and just seems like too many points in a place the Thunder have struggled in the past.
Got the perfect scenario, Thunder win and a Denver cover. Good win for OKC.
Stillriledup
01-20-2016, 12:46 PM
Got the perfect scenario, Thunder win and a Denver cover. Good win for OKC.
You're locked in, good stuff!
Thunder -9.5 over Charlotte tonight. Thunder historically destroy Charlotte at home.
Going to take the Knicks +6.5 tonight. Thunder have two starters out and Knicks get Carmelo back in the lineup.
Going to take the Knicks +6.5 tonight. Thunder have two starters out and Knicks get Carmelo back in the lineup.
Carmelo not playing after all and Adams is, but I'm stuck. I'd probably have taken the points anyway so we'll see.
Going to take the Knicks +6.5 tonight. Thunder have two starters out and Knicks get Carmelo back in the lineup.
Won by 1/2 point as Thunder win by 6. Should have been easy cover except for OT. Won quite a few in a row, might be at 500 by now. I'll add them up next time I lose (or at season's end :) )
Robert Fischer
01-26-2016, 10:59 PM
Won by 1/2 point as Thunder win by 6. Should have been easy cover except for OT. Won quite a few in a row, might be at 500 by now. I'll add them up next time I lose (or at season's end :) )
good call , you've been on a roll
game was close until the 'foul game' played out and Durant's class carried them through. Westbrook had a nice clutch mid-range jumper as well.
Knicks can be a fringe-playoff type team when both Melo and Porzingis are having good nights.
Optimally, Fisher can start Porzingis, -but mostly use him like a '6th man' in the rotation, so that the Melo and Porzingis minutes don't completely overlap.
Just has been so few games where both Melo and KP are healthy and productive at the same time. Probably the most frustrating aspect of a much-improved Knicks season thus far.
Taking Thunder -7.5 in Minny tonight. Everything points to OKC being vulnerable...back to back, 3rd game in 4 nights, all on the road, OT last night in NY featuring a gritty, hard fought come back from 11 down in the 4th, etc. But Minnesota stinks and is reeling. No KMart or Big Ticket (not that he really matters), and this team just has trouble scoring points.
Thunder win but no cover, failed to get a late rebound that could have done it. 12-13 on the year. Still not sure what to make of this team...35-13 sounds nice but the eye test isn't that great.
Canarsie
01-29-2016, 11:57 AM
Thunder win but no cover, failed to get a late rebound that could have done it. 12-13 on the year. Still not sure what to make of this team...35-13 sounds nice but the eye test isn't that great.
When the playoffs start I can't see Kanter getting more than just a few minutes. Against the Knicks he was PUTRID, it actually looked (looks can be deceiving but not in this case)like he was moving away from the offensive player. He also doesn't exhibit a tremendous amount of hustle something that probably annoys Westbrook more than just a little. He was -13 in eighteen minutes that isn't easily accomplished.
My opinion of Adams was dreadfully wrong I'm not afraid to admit a mistake was made on my part. He has to be licking his chops about his next contract. At bare minimum he should get the same amount that Kanter is getting.
When the playoffs start I can't see Kanter getting more than just a few minutes. Against the Knicks he was PUTRID, it actually looked (looks can be deceiving but not in this case)like he was moving away from the offensive player. He also doesn't exhibit a tremendous amount of hustle something that probably annoys Westbrook more than just a little. He was -13 in eighteen minutes that isn't easily accomplished.
My opinion of Adams was dreadfully wrong I'm not afraid to admit a mistake was made on my part. He has to be licking his chops about his next contract. At bare minimum he should get the same amount that Kanter is getting.
Yeah, Adams will get paid.
Kanter is tough. The very next night he was probably the MVP of the game. He is a much better player on offense when he is with the first unit and just cleans up the boards. He is an amazing offensive rebounder and finisher. He definitely has his weaknesses, namely defense, but he'll be a bargain for the next few years when the new salary cap kicks in. I'm still hopeful the D will become adequate, he is only 24.
Canarsie
01-31-2016, 10:10 AM
Yeah, Adams will get paid.
Kanter is tough. The very next night he was probably the MVP of the game. He is a much better player on offense when he is with the first unit and just cleans up the boards. He is an amazing offensive rebounder and finisher. He definitely has his weaknesses, namely defense, but he'll be a bargain for the next few years when the new salary cap kicks in. I'm still hopeful the D will become adequate, he is only 24.
If Adams gets paid, personally I would pony up (no pun intended) but what happens to Ibaka? Can they afford paying five players fifteen million and up? They will have two max contracts that's a given.
It's funny since I have been calling the owner a cheapskate. Now if I was in Presti's shoes the temperature would be rising quite a bit. Do you just fill out the roster with exceptions? I guess that's why he's being paid the big bucks because these are decisions that could effect OKC's future for a long period of time. On the other end its a better problem to have compared to be jockeying for the #1 pick.
All the starters were plus against the Wolves and there was Kanter tied for the biggest defecit (-6) of the night. Most people on here know I don't care for him as a defensive player but to consistently wind up in the minus even when your teams wins isn't good.
If Adams gets paid, personally I would pony up (no pun intended) but what happens to Ibaka? Can they afford paying five players fifteen million and up? They will have two max contracts that's a given.
It's funny since I have been calling the owner a cheapskate. Now if I was in Presti's shoes the temperature would be rising quite a bit. Do you just fill out the roster with exceptions? I guess that's why he's being paid the big bucks because these are decisions that could effect OKC's future for a long period of time. On the other end its a better problem to have compared to be jockeying for the #1 pick.
All the starters were plus against the Wolves and there was Kanter tied for the biggest defecit (-6) of the night. Most people on here know I don't care for him as a defensive player but to consistently wind up in the minus even when your teams wins isn't good.
I think injuries have taken a toll on Ibaka. He is still a good player, but not what he was a couple years ago. The owner was never a cheapskate, he was trying to set the team up for a long run. They changed the rules on him after the last lockout but they adjusted pretty nicely and are spending. It i sup to Presti now.
Kanter wasn't -6 against Minnesota, he was +3. The game you are talking about was the third Timberwolve game back. Here are his game logs on the season:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kanteen01/gamelog/2016/
His defense isn't great by any stretch, but his offense is really good. A big part of him being in the - is playing a majority of his minutes with DJ (early on before Payne), Waiters, Morrow, Singler, etc. As bad as Kanter is, Augustin and Morrow are even worse on defense. He isn't in the - overall on the season though, he is +.
Robert Fischer
01-31-2016, 01:28 PM
Knicks are 10.5pt dogs @ Madison Square Garden tonight hosting Golden State.
Should actually have BOTH Melo and Kristaps firing away at a somewhat high level tonight.
They could easily finish within about 7 or 8pts here. Alternately they may be just good enough to 'piss off' Golden State.
Golden State not only has the goods, they do fundamental things defensively like switching on screens, that simply put them on another level from teams like the Knicks who are 'just out there playing'.
Still 10.5 is a lot of points, and the Knicks are better than the public thinks when they actually have both of the Big-2 playing well.
Knicks +10.5
Stillriledup
01-31-2016, 03:03 PM
Knicks are 10.5pt dogs @ Madison Square Garden tonight hosting Golden State.
Should actually have BOTH Melo and Kristaps firing away at a somewhat high level tonight.
They could easily finish within about 7 or 8pts here. Alternately they may be just good enough to 'piss off' Golden State.
Golden State not only has the goods, they do fundamental things defensively like switching on screens, that simply put them on another level from teams like the Knicks who are 'just out there playing'.
Still 10.5 is a lot of points, and the Knicks are better than the public thinks when they actually have both of the Big-2 playing well.
Knicks +10.5
Good writeup!
Fwiw the last time the Knicks faced an elite team, they almost shocked the world winning in San Antonio, so we know they won't be intimidated here.
I'm going to wait till after all star game to start officially picking again, but the Clips looked a little tired the other night vs LAL. 4.5 seems interesting w Chicago here, tricky afternoon game for LAC, this might be a tough one.
Robert Fischer
01-31-2016, 03:11 PM
Good writeup!
Fwiw the last time the Knicks faced an elite team, they almost shocked the world winning in San Antonio, so we know they won't be intimidated here.
I'm going to wait till after all star game to start officially picking again, but the Clips looked a little tired the other night vs LAL. 4.5 seems interesting w Chicago here, tricky afternoon game for LAC, this might be a tough one.
Clips-Bulls should be another great game to watch.
I'm leaning Bulls+4.5, but I honestly don't know enough about the Clips to call that one. I kind of remember them as a 'paper tiger'. Kind of like the Bengals of the NBA (Start out great, win a bunch of games, fold when the injuries and playoffs arrive). I know you follow them a lot closer.
Stillriledup
01-31-2016, 03:24 PM
Clips-Bulls should be another great game to watch.
I'm leaning Bulls+4.5, but I honestly don't know enough about the Clips to call that one. I kind of remember them as a 'paper tiger'. Kind of like the Bengals of the NBA (Start out great, win a bunch of games, fold when the injuries and playoffs arrive). I know you follow them a lot closer.
Clippers have a heartbeat, they're mentally tougher than meets the eye, their epic series vs SA last year shows what they can do at their best. Their meltdown vs Houston was more a product of playing so hard vs SA they had no legs left. They're a bit inconsistent in that when they look bad they're REALLY bad, so bad that it's easy to come to the conclusion they have no heart, but guys like Redick and Paul are gutty players, Paul 'i called game' Pierce is also a proven winner in big games.
Clips are underrated because people don't like them and the WAY they lose is alarming sometimes, but they're really hard to beat when their head is right, they're deep and still learning and they're really experimenting with a ton of different lineups and whatnut. They'll have a fresh legged Griffin also for the playoffs, I wouldn't want to play these guys in the first round, if Clips finish 4th, they'll get GS in round 2, which is good for everyone else.
When a guy like Lance can't even get on the floor you know the team is deep.
Lance will play today. He was great the other night, Doc will reward him w minutes, expect to see a lot of him today (as long as he's not stinking up the place he will be in there)
Robert Fischer
01-31-2016, 04:23 PM
Clips up 5 in the first half. I'm streaming it on a p2p server. (works well for me with firefox and an adblock , can google NBA p2p )
Robert Fischer
01-31-2016, 05:02 PM
Clippers out-classing Chicago here but it's only a 5 pt game...
5:46 left in the 3rd
Robert Fischer
01-31-2016, 05:34 PM
Clippers out-classing Chicago here but it's only a 5 pt game...
5:46 left in the 3rd
Score has caught up to the discrepancy in quality. Clippers up 16 mid-way through the 4th.
Robert Fischer
01-31-2016, 07:45 PM
Should actually have BOTH Melo and Kristaps firing away at a somewhat high level tonight.
Porzingis 2 fouls in the first few minutes 0-0
Canarsie
02-01-2016, 09:49 AM
I think injuries have taken a toll on Ibaka. He is still a good player, but not what he was a couple years ago. The owner was never a cheapskate, he was trying to set the team up for a long run. They changed the rules on him after the last lockout but they adjusted pretty nicely and are spending. It i sup to Presti now.
Kanter wasn't -6 against Minnesota, he was +3. The game you are talking about was the third Timberwolve game back. Here are his game logs on the season:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kanteen01/gamelog/2016/
His defense isn't great by any stretch, but his offense is really good. A big part of him being in the - is playing a majority of his minutes with DJ (early on before Payne), Waiters, Morrow, Singler, etc. As bad as Kanter is, Augustin and Morrow are even worse on defense. He isn't in the - overall on the season though, he is +.
Thanks for that link and I stand corrected. It wasn't on basketball-ref but some other site. Any way you look at it I was 100% WRONG. I should have listened what I tell others and that is "provide a link".
He played quite some time with Westbrook while Durant was injured and I'm pretty sure (don't bank on it now) that his stats were still poor for plus minus.
He really needs to spend some time with a defensive tutor who can get through to him. If he was just adequate defensively my opinion (you know better than me) is they would let Adams walk rather than giving him a high end contract.
You will never convince me on the Thunders owner. Letting Harden walk was a mistake that cost them dearly. He has been playing catch up since then. He didn't have to pay for the practice facility except for a paltry $100,000 a year rent. The naming rights are for him another company would step up in a split second to have it named for their enterprise.
http://www.nba.com/thunder/news/groundbreaking_090827.html
Lets see how much the owners pay for naming rights after she opens up the books of certain teams when negotiations start.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13270044/michele-roberts-nbpa-executive-director-says-league-healthier-nba-commissioner-adam-silver-claims
Thanks for that link and I stand corrected. It wasn't on basketball-ref but some other site. Any way you look at it I was 100% WRONG. I should have listened what I tell others and that is "provide a link".
He played quite some time with Westbrook while Durant was injured and I'm pretty sure (don't bank on it now) that his stats were still poor for plus minus.
He really needs to spend some time with a defensive tutor who can get through to him. If he was just adequate defensively my opinion (you know better than me) is they would let Adams walk rather than giving him a high end contract.
You will never convince me on the Thunders owner. Letting Harden walk was a mistake that cost them dearly. He has been playing catch up since then. He didn't have to pay for the practice facility except for a paltry $100,000 a year rent. The naming rights are for him another company would step up in a split second to have it named for their enterprise.
http://www.nba.com/thunder/news/groundbreaking_090827.html
Lets see how much the owners pay for naming rights after she opens up the books of certain teams when negotiations start.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13270044/michele-roberts-nbpa-executive-director-says-league-healthier-nba-commissioner-adam-silver-claims
Kanter was definitely in the + in the +/- during his OKC time last year. It wasnt great, something like +30 or so in about 25 games. His defense is better this year individually, but he isn't a rim protector and never will be. One on one as a post defender he is fine, it is help defense and pick and rolls where he struggles. He works hard at it, I know that much, so I expect some improvement. His ceiling is probably "average" on defense.
The thing with the Harden trade that people forget is that the Thunder were a better team the next year without him. They were the #1 seed and probably would have made the Finals again if not for Beverly's ridiculous play on Westbrook that injured him and took him out of the playoffs. They had pretty much owned the Spurs for two full years before that happened, regular and post season.
I personally don't think having Harden would be all that great to be honest. He doesn't play any defense and OKC isn't lacking for scoring by any means. How many points a game would they have to score to win games with Harden playing big minutes? Keep in mind they wouldn't have Adams with that trade.
Canarsie
02-03-2016, 11:15 AM
Kanter was definitely in the + in the +/- during his OKC time last year. It wasnt great, something like +30 or so in about 25 games. His defense is better this year individually, but he isn't a rim protector and never will be. One on one as a post defender he is fine, it is help defense and pick and rolls where he struggles. He works hard at it, I know that much, so I expect some improvement. His ceiling is probably "average" on defense.
The thing with the Harden trade that people forget is that the Thunder were a better team the next year without him. They were the #1 seed and probably would have made the Finals again if not for Beverly's ridiculous play on Westbrook that injured him and took him out of the playoffs. They had pretty much owned the Spurs for two full years before that happened, regular and post season.
I personally don't think having Harden would be all that great to be honest. He doesn't play any defense and OKC isn't lacking for scoring by any means. How many points a game would they have to score to win games with Harden playing big minutes? Keep in mind they wouldn't have Adams with that trade.
They turned the draft pick into a very nice player but when the trade was consummated it was one sided. Harden's defense is far better than Kantner, at least he can rotate and offer help. Seriously its tough watching him defend I think he's that bad. On the up side if he was adequate defensively he would definitely get a max contract.
OKC hasn't been to finals without Harden but I understand your argument. We agree to disagree on the merits of the trade and Kanter's defense. Its an indictment on him that he comes off the bench making a nice amount of money.
I am interested on your take if this actually happened.
Sources: Warriors serious threat to sign Kevin Durant
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--warriors-serious-threat-to-sign-kevin-durant-182559375.html
This is an interesting take because if he left for any other team he would think OKC's chances of getting a ring are slim. There is no reason besides that to go anywhere else.
I'm not buying him going home to the wizards. His home is OKC he gave a million bucks when the tornado devastated Oklahoma. That was the same amount as the team (OKC management was very charitable also) gave. He was inducted into the Oklahoma Hall of Fame.
'Overwhelmed' Kevin Durant inducted into Oklahoma Hall of Fame
http://espn.go.com/blog/okc-thunder/post/_/id/833/kevin-durant-inducted-into-oklahoma-hall-of-fame
They turned the draft pick into a very nice player but when the trade was consummated it was one sided. Harden's defense is far better than Kantner, at least he can rotate and offer help. Seriously its tough watching him defend I think he's that bad. On the up side if he was adequate defensively he would definitely get a max contract.
OKC hasn't been to finals without Harden but I understand your argument. We agree to disagree on the merits of the trade and Kanter's defense. Its an indictment on him that he comes off the bench making a nice amount of money.
I am interested on your take if this actually happened.
Sources: Warriors serious threat to sign Kevin Durant
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--warriors-serious-threat-to-sign-kevin-durant-182559375.html
This is an interesting take because if he left for any other team he would think OKC's chances of getting a ring are slim. There is no reason besides that to go anywhere else.
I'm not buying him going home to the wizards. His home is OKC he gave a million bucks when the tornado devastated Oklahoma. That was the same amount as the team (OKC management was very charitable also) gave. He was inducted into the Oklahoma Hall of Fame.
'Overwhelmed' Kevin Durant inducted into Oklahoma Hall of Fame
http://espn.go.com/blog/okc-thunder/post/_/id/833/kevin-durant-inducted-into-oklahoma-hall-of-fame
KD was never going to Washington. I said that a long time ago. As for the Warriors, who could blame him? But I don't think it will happen personally. I think he really wants to win a ring here in OKC. He is just a different type of guy than many NBA stars.
Canarsie
02-04-2016, 09:12 AM
KD was never going to Washington. I said that a long time ago. As for the Warriors, who could blame him? But I don't think it will happen personally. I think he really wants to win a ring here in OKC. He is just a different type of guy than many NBA stars.
I agree with what you saying except for the only thing that could make KD consider the Warriors.
Just imagine there are four players talking in a room with just a beer or whatever beverage they choose to drink. Steph turns to KD and says I'm willing to give up some of my shots if you would honor us by becoming a teammate. Clay says I can't wait to set up screens for you because your shooting percentage with hover at 60% or better. Draymond says time can't come soon enough for me setting you up in the lane for one of your emphatic dunks. Then the three of them speak in unison and say "but it's still all about our team concept first and foremost'. "We respect every member of our team to find the open man instead of exciting the fans all over the globe".
That's some pretty powerful words that would be hard to turn down imo.
After writing that I still think he'll return to the Thunder.
Suns give the Thunder fits and are getting 12 tonight, but I'm taking OKC anyway. Suns are a mess and I think the Thunder will blow them out.
Late surge gets the cover.
Valuist
02-08-2016, 11:48 PM
Late surge gets the cover.
That's great news. Had written it off as a loss.
Teams playing a game with Golden State in the on deck circle (as Phoenix did tonight) are a horrific 16-35 ATS. Best angle anywhere this season.
That's great news. Had written it off as a loss.
Teams playing a game with Golden State in the on deck circle (as Phoenix did tonight) are a horrific 16-35 ATS. Best angle anywhere this season.
Can't argue with those numbers, but having watched the game no way was PHO looking ahead last night. They played tough and scrappy all night like they always do against OKC.
Stillriledup
02-10-2016, 04:58 PM
YTD 25-31-1
One official pick for Feb 10
Boston -1.5 vs LAC
Clippers got very lucky to beat Philly the other night and worked very hard for that win. This is going to be a tough game for Los Angeles.
Taking OKC -3.5 vs the Cavs on National TV tomorrow.
lansdale
02-21-2016, 06:46 PM
Taking OKC -3.5 vs the Cavs on National TV tomorrow.
What the hell happened in this game? I wanted to catch part of this but had to go out. I can't remember any home loss for OKC this bad in any game where KD and WB both played. Love leading scorer? It looks like Love read all those posts where you heaped abuse on him and decided to take revenge ;-). But historically, Love has always killed OKC, regardless of game location.
Few minutes for an ineffective Kyrie - looks like he got hurt and came out. But Cavs still win in OKC with no Kyrie no Shumpert and no Channing Frye? KD and WB excellent as usual but Kanter and Waiters simply vanished as I believe they well late in post-season.
One thing here especially strange - OKC nearly always outrebounds opponents but got crushed on boards. Starting to wonder whether this reflects toll taken by injuries on not only Ibaka but also Durant.
Wonder if LBJ staring to realize that the decline of his outside shooting ability due to back problems means he'll have to start giving Love more shots. Smart move, if so.
No idea what is going on with this team. Outside of KD and Russ the rest of the guys look lost.
azeri98
02-21-2016, 08:19 PM
No idea what is going on with this team. Outside of KD and Russ the rest of the guys look lost.
That's all they have, as much as I like the team. I'm not a fan of Ibaka, he is a good defender but average on offense, the rest of the team is full of "plumbers". They have 2 of the top 5 guys in the league but the rest of their team is weak. Just my opinion.
That's all they have, as much as I like the team. I'm not a fan of Ibaka, he is a good defender but average on offense, the rest of the team is full of "plumbers". They have 2 of the top 5 guys in the league but the rest of their team is weak. Just my opinion.
Ibaka isn't even playing defense.
azeri98
02-26-2016, 10:59 AM
Ibaka isn't even playing defense.
Their defense is non-existent right now, they lost again last night giving up 123 to a depleted Pelicans team, just brutal.
Their defense is non-existent right now, they lost again last night giving up 123 to a depleted Pelicans team, just brutal.
It is brutal. I'd rather watch the 2008 version of OKC than this team. Westbrook busts his ass, the rest, forget it. I sold both Laker games, the Cavs game, and the Warriors game for a nice profit and I'm glad I did. I may sell the Clippers as well.
azeri98
02-26-2016, 03:55 PM
It is brutal. I'd rather watch the 2008 version of OKC than this team. Westbrook busts his ass, the rest, forget it. I sold both Laker games, the Cavs game, and the Warriors game for a nice profit and I'm glad I did. I may sell the Clippers as well.
Might as well Clips are still playing well, OKC, not so much
Might as well Clips are still playing well, OKC, not so much
Clippers just lost to lowly Denver at home.
As for Westbrook, it would be nice if he dug and played a little harder on D instead of going 180% on offense and 50% on defense. I love the guy, but he isn't playing to his ability on defense.
azeri98
02-26-2016, 07:42 PM
Clippers just lost to lowly Denver at home.
As for Westbrook, it would be nice if he dug and played a little harder on D instead of going 180% on offense and 50% on defense. I love the guy, but he isn't playing to his ability on defense.
No he is not, he gets a lot of steals but I agree he is so athletic and strong if he committed to playing defense most of the time they would be a lot better, the same can be said of KD. As much as like Russ and KD I don't think they can win a title with the current makeup of the team.
Taking the Kings +8.5 tonight. OKC should win, but just too many points IMO coming off the GS loss and facing a back to back with LAC/GS next.
Taking the Thunder +8.5 tonight. I think they match up well with SA and were looking ahead to this game during that disgusting performance last night.
azeri98
03-12-2016, 04:07 PM
Taking the Kings +8.5 tonight. OKC should win, but just too many points IMO coming off the GS loss and facing a back to back with LAC/GS next.
Think its a good bet seems like a lot of points, however the Spurs are almost unbeatable at home.
Taking the Thunder +8.5 tonight. I think they match up well with SA and were looking ahead to this game during that disgusting performance last night.
Easy cover as Thunder lose by 8 despite Morrow missing a wide open nobody near him garbage time layup with a few seconds left.
lansdale
03-13-2016, 04:37 PM
Easy cover as Thunder lose by 8 despite Morrow missing a wide open nobody near him garbage time layup with a few seconds left.
Nice call on this game, but I think you have to bump Tony Parker for missing those two FTs during the last 30 seconds. ;-).
Nice call on this game, but I think you have to bump Tony Parker for missing those two FTs during the last 30 seconds. ;-).
The supporting cast outside of Kanter is just so inconsistent, usually bad. Nobody on this team other than the big two seems to be able to make a shot. Kyle Singler continues to get 20 minutes a game and shot enough bricks while wide open the last two games to construct a mansion. Morrow was benched and got a chance Friday and went 0-6 from 3, at least 5 WIDE open.
Of course Russ and KD turn it over when the options are to pass to guys like him and Foye and Waiters and Singler. Ibaka is Jekyl and Hyde and never seems to make a clutch shot. How Payne lost his PT I have no idea.
lansdale
03-14-2016, 05:50 PM
The supporting cast outside of Kanter is just so inconsistent, usually bad. Nobody on this team other than the big two seems to be able to make a shot. Kyle Singler continues to get 20 minutes a game and shot enough bricks while wide open the last two games to construct a mansion. Morrow was benched and got a chance Friday and went 0-6 from 3, at least 5 WIDE open.
Of course Russ and KD turn it over when the options are to pass to guys like him and Foye and Waiters and Singler. Ibaka is Jekyl and Hyde and never seems to make a clutch shot. How Payne lost his PT I have no idea.
After the murder of Dion Sanders' brother last week, the third tragedy to befall the organization in the past month, it's impossible not to wonder what's going on behind the scenes at OKC and not to think that has to be affecting their play. This also coincides with their toughest stretch of games on their schedule. When you see high% 3-pt. shooters like Morrow and Singler miss so many open looks, I think all that has something to do with it.
OTOH, they do have real problems, as you point out. The decline of Ibaka due to injury (think this dates back two years to his playing through WCF with blown Achilles), the shortage of capable defenders, and the lack of any real change to the hero-ball offense, would be drawbacks even under the most positive conditions. You mentioned lack of assistant coaching in another post, but when I see what's on the floor and listen to B. Donovan in interviews he really sounds like a guy who sees himself as a placeholder picking up a check.
Interesting - talking to a relative who played some D II ball and worked in Celts organization during D. Gavitt era - like many, he's interested in fate of KD and WB, and follows the team - he said that, especially on defense, it looks like there is no coaching at all. He said this is different from previous years and speculated that (know you'll hate this ;-)) that K. Perkins may have been calling a lot of D plays on the floor - said he started to notice this after KP left and while Brooks was still there.
Some perspective - three recent losses came against a GSW team that may be one of the best ever to play in the NBA - and one to a Spur team not far behind. That's just the luck of the draw. Still, it's depressing for fans of KD and WB, like myself, not to see them getting another shot at the championship. Guess we'll just have to wait to see what happens next year.
azeri98
03-14-2016, 07:00 PM
After the murder of Dion Sanders' brother last week, the third tragedy to befall the organization in the past month, it's impossible not to wonder what's going on behind the scenes at OKC and not to think that has to be affecting their play. This also coincides with their toughest stretch of games on their schedule. When you see high% 3-pt. shooters like Morrow and Singler miss so many open looks, I think all that has something to do with it.
OTOH, they do have real problems, as you point out. The decline of Ibaka due to injury (think this dates back two years to his playing through WCF with blown Achilles), the shortage of capable defenders, and the lack of any real change to the hero-ball offense, would be drawbacks even under the most positive conditions. You mentioned lack of assistant coaching in another post, but when I see what's on the floor and listen to B. Donovan in interviews he really sounds like a guy who sees himself as a placeholder picking up a check.
Interesting - talking to a relative who played some D II ball and worked in Celts organization during D. Gavitt era - like many, he's interested in fate of KD and WB, and follows the team - he said that, especially on defense, it looks like there is no coaching at all. He said this is different from previous years and speculated that (know you'll hate this ;-)) that K. Perkins may have been calling a lot of D plays on the floor - said he started to notice this after KP left and while Brooks was still there.
Some perspective - three recent losses came against a GSW team that may be one of the best ever to play in the NBA - and one to a Spur team not far behind. That's just the luck of the draw. Still, it's depressing for fans of KD and WB, like myself, not to see them getting another shot at the championship. Guess we'll just have to wait to see what happens next year.
Since when did Dion Sanders belong to OKC?
lansdale
03-14-2016, 07:21 PM
Since when did Dion Sanders belong to OKC?
My bad -thx for headsup. More early-onset Alzheimers. Two pro sports was enough for Sanders, I shouldn't have tried to make it three.
Almost witnessed history tonight. Russ had what would have been his 10th rebound in his hands and dropped it out of bounds. Had he held on it would have been the fastest triple double in NBA history.
Taking Thunder -3 over the Celtics tonight in the first ESPN game of the night.
lansdale
03-16-2016, 05:32 PM
Taking Thunder -3 over the Celtics tonight in the first ESPN game of the night.
Only lines I've seen for this have been OKC -5 since morning.
thaskalos
03-16-2016, 05:48 PM
Presented as news matter only: :)
Charl....9.5
Clev......10
Wash....3.5
Ok.C......1
Det........2
LAC.......1
Sac.......3
G.S......16.5
Only lines I've seen for this have been OKC -5 since morning.
I was going by last night which is when I wagered. I'm not trying to scam anyone or anything.
lansdale
03-16-2016, 06:52 PM
I was going by last night which is when I wagered. I'm not trying to scam anyone or anything.
Sorry about that - no scam implied. Since I had seen this, just to alert anyone thinking of betting this. More or less agree with Thask on this - OKC the slightly better team but Celts at home, so would make game Pk and take latter. Good luck to all - should be a good game.
Maybe time to start thinking about how K. Love will fit with that Celt front line.
Sorry about that - no scam implied. Since I had seen this, just to alert anyone thinking of betting this. More or less agree with Thask on this - OKC the slightly better team but Celts at home, so would make game Pk and take latter. Good luck to all - should be a good game.
Maybe time to start thinking about how K. Love will fit with that Celt front line.
All good. Was just explaining where the 3 came from in my post. Celtics off tough loss road game last night was part of my thinking.
OKC with 108 points...through 3Q.
lansdale
03-16-2016, 09:40 PM
OKC with 108 points...through 3Q.
When I went to check out this score, did a double-take. Got to be Celts worse home loss of the year. They're supposed to be #4 defense! Guess you were right about the B2B thing, although no OT last night. Hoop gods smiling on you.
Going to take the Blazers +1 tonight. OKC off back to back and no reason to care.
Going to take the Blazers +1 tonight. OKC off back to back and no reason to care.
Stand at 16-15 on the season, nice run after a horrible start. Probably play one or two of the four remaining games.
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