Classic draw-AP draws 4 ML 6/5

[Kash$]

6-Effinex
3-Frosted
1-Tonalist
8-Hard oF Aces
5-Gleneagles
10-Beholder
7-Smooth Roller
9-Honor Code
4-American Pharoah
2-Keen Ice

[EMD4ME]

Thanks Kash. Hope it will be a great race, not a boat race with chicken wing ores.

[EMD4ME]

Thank the lord Tonalist drew inside of HC. This time JV can't screw up the Clubhouse Turn by giving away all position to HC.

Guarantees him at least 7th into the CT.

Honor Code, Hard Aces and the invador will be behind him into the CT.

I say put the B on Tonalist. I want him to secure a spot underneath 2 more. If he sits 5th, he watches the stalkers chase mid backstretch/late backstretch, saves more ground on the far turn, angles out between the 1/4 and 3/16 and EXPLODES PAST THE FIELD, to resounding BOOS.......except in my world!

Beholder post 10. I love that. Just in case Frosted goes to the lead and AP sits 2nd, Beholder finally gives AP something he's never seen before. A challenge to his plank as he stalks a foe.

AP will undressed Saturday and I can't wait!!!!

[Kash$]

Thank the lord Tonalist drew inside of HC. This time JV can't screw up the Clubhouse Turn by giving away all position to HC.

Guarantees him at least 7th into the CT.

Honor Code, Hard Aces and the invador will be behind him into the CT.

I say put the B on Tonalist. I want him to secure a spot underneath 2 more. If he sits 5th, he watches the stalkers chase mid backstretch/late backstretch, saves more ground on the far turn, angles out between the 1/4 and 3/16 and EXPLODES PAST THE FIELD, to resounding BOOS.......except in my world!

Beholder post 10. I love that. Just in case Frosted goes to the lead and AP sits 2nd, Beholder finally gives AP something he's never seen before. A challenge to his plank as he stalks a foe.

AP will undressed Saturday and I can't wait!!!!

Parlay 3 locks on BC day?

[EMD4ME]

Parlay 3 locks on BC day?

Watching a ton of tape now. Discuss later on in the week. I will be watching for biases intently Thur Fri and Sat.

[no breathalyzer]

Thank the lord Tonalist drew inside of HC. This time JV can't screw up the Clubhouse Turn by giving away all position to HC.

Guarantees him at least 7th into the CT.

Honor Code, Hard Aces and the invador will be behind him into the CT.

I say put the B on Tonalist. I want him to secure a spot underneath 2 more. If he sits 5th, he watches the stalkers chase mid backstretch/late backstretch, saves more ground on the far turn, angles out between the 1/4 and 3/16 and EXPLODES PAST THE FIELD, to resounding BOOS.......except in my world!

Beholder post 10. I love that. Just in case Frosted goes to the lead and AP sits 2nd, Beholder finally gives AP something he's never seen before. A challenge to his plank as he stalks a foe.

AP will undressed Saturday and I can't wait!!!!

HOPE SO.. I'L KEEP MY FINGERS CROSSED

[EMD4ME]

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HOPE SO.. I'L KEEP MY FINGERS CROSSED

I should have said "again" at the end but that will start a whole new deja vu argument!

Keen Ice was a better horse on Travers day. That wasn't a suck up on Travers Day and I'm insulted that people think it was. Keen Ice should finish in front of him again on BC day.

[ebcorde]

Tonalist is a steal at 6-1.

[EMD4ME]

Tonalist is a steal at 6-1.

The M/L on him was 8/1, I'm kinda ticked it went to 6/1 when the draw came out.

No one came out of the race. They just adjusted it.

[Rex Phinney]

Tonalist has no chance.

You guys are fooled because he spent another summer and fall in New York...

[EMD4ME]

Tonalist has no chance.

You guys are fooled because he spent another summer and fall in New York...

OK. I can appreciate the thought.

Who do you like? Why?

[Rex Phinney]

OK. I can appreciate the thought.

Who do you like? Why?

If speed is playing well I like Beholder, she looked so good in her last two and her jockey is smarter than any of the others who will be in front.

A few bucks on Smooth Roller and if speed is failing I like Honor Code.

[SuperPickle]

Tonalist has no chance.

You guys are fooled because he spent another summer and fall in New York...

Unless it rains. He's a legit mile and quarter horse and he's a mud monster.

He's the one horse in the field who's chances improve in the mud.

[EMD4ME]

Unless it rains. He's a legit mile and quarter horse and he's a mud monster.

He's the one horse in the field who's chances improve in the mud.

I would imagine AP wouldn't mind the mud as well, no?

[VeryOldMan]

I would imagine AP wouldn't mind the mud as well, no?
Other than his two romps on sloppy tracks, what makes you think that? ;)

[bks]

AP should be nowhere near 6-5 in this race. Beholder at 3-1 is a gift. I wish I could bet that no one behind her after the 1/2 wins the race. Because they won't.

[Rex Phinney]

Unless it rains. He's a legit mile and quarter horse and he's a mud monster.

He's the one horse in the field who's chances improve in the mud.

If it rains they aren't moving the race to Belmont.

Thus Tonalist still has no chance.

If speed holds he can't keep up, and if speed fails apart he isn't fast enough to beat Honor Code.

He will be worth using in exotics IMO, just not on top

[EMD4ME]

http://www.keeneland.com/sites/default/files/shared/stats/pp102415.pdf

PP's 7-12 were 5 for 101 at the recently concluded fall meet. (dirt routes).

That seems interesting. I didn't play the fall meet much at all. Any thoughts out there?

[garyscpa]

http://www.keeneland.com/sites/default/files/shared/stats/pp102415.pdf

PP's 7-12 were 5 for 101 at the recently concluded fall meet. (dirt routes).

That seems interesting. I didn't play the fall meet much at all. Any thoughts out there?

Post 11 was 25%.

Usually when you are in the 11 hole there are more than six horses in the field.

[EMD4ME]

Post 11 was 25%.

Usually when you are in the 11 hole there are more than six horses in the field.

Very funny!

But seriously, 1/4 is not a trend but 5/101 is a reason to ask why.

[garyscpa]

Very funny!

But seriously, 1/4 is not a trend but 5/101 is a reason to ask why.

Cratos can explain this better than I can.