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ebcorde
10-02-2015, 07:47 PM
Race 4 at 9:55 am

Golden Horn at 9-2
Treve 3-5
Flintshire 7-2

1A Flintshire, 13A New Bay, 9B Treve, and 17B Shahah coupled for WIN betting only. About One And One Half Miles (Turf)
olddaddy
10-02-2015, 08:35 PM
If 1A Flintshire, 13A New Bay, 9B Treve, and 17B Shahah are coupled this may go off at 1/5.
classhandicapper
10-02-2015, 09:05 PM
It's hard to think of an accomplishment greater than winning 3 Arcs in a row, let alone for a mare. If she can pull it off, maybe they should take down the Eiffel Tower and put up a statue of Treve.
Lemon Drop Husker
10-02-2015, 09:21 PM
It's hard to think of an accomplishment greater than winning 3 Arcs in a row, let alone for a mare. If she can pull it off, maybe they should take down the Eiffel Tower and put up a statue of Treve.

Would be beyond believable, but she just might do it.
thespaah
10-03-2015, 12:07 AM
Just looked at Flintshire's win in the Sword Dancer. Pretty explosive move as they turned for home.
SharpCat
10-03-2015, 01:48 AM
It's hard to think of an accomplishment greater than winning 3 Arcs in a row, let alone for a mare.
Would put her in an elite group.
AVOspyelgRw
olddaddy
10-03-2015, 08:32 AM
Is there any live video of races today from longchamp?
Redboard
10-03-2015, 09:50 AM
Apparently TVG is not showing it on TV or on their website?

This has to be a first.
biggestal99
10-03-2015, 12:16 PM
Arc is sunday.

Allan
OTM Al
10-03-2015, 12:49 PM
Arc is sunday.

Allan
It is but there were some very good races there today as well.
NorCalGreg
10-03-2015, 02:03 PM
It is but there were some very good races there today as well.

How ironic
OTM Al
10-03-2015, 03:48 PM
How ironic
You waited a month for that? How sad.
thespaah
10-03-2015, 04:52 PM
link to the Longchamps video...
http://www.francegaloptv.com/webtvArc/en/qatar-prix-chaudenay-2015.html
thespaah
10-03-2015, 05:19 PM
also....HRTV appears to be carrying LOngchamp from 9A-12P EDT....
That's 6 in the morning to 9 am for those of you in LA LA land.....
http://www.hrtv.com/schedule/
TVG also has it listed on their website as well.
So it appears US viewers with access to the two horse racing nets will be able to see the Arc live.
I believe the link I provided from gallop France is for replays only...Tons of UK bookmakers have live feeds but those of us in the States are effed. Stupid puritanical gambling laws here.
thespaah
10-03-2015, 05:22 PM
Just to clarify, I like Flintshire tomorrow...
That based on his last.
Valuist
10-03-2015, 06:52 PM
I see Flintshire at a much higher price than quoted earlier in the thread. Oddschecker has him at 22-1, behind Treve 5-4, New Bay 11-2, Golden Horn 6-1, Free Eagle 16-1 and Found 18-1.
ronsmac
10-03-2015, 07:36 PM
It's weird that you have to bet the horses as an entry to win but as individual betting choices in the exotics. Last yr Treve would have paid $30 bucks , but because of the strange entry rules , she only paid $8 to win , while the $2 dollar exacta paid $438.
betovernetcapper
10-03-2015, 11:35 PM
Just made my ARC bets with HAW. Tossed Horn because of post & focused on gimmicks highlighting Treve & New Bay with 6-7-13 & 18.
RacingFan1992
10-04-2015, 02:16 AM
What time is the race?
nijinski
10-04-2015, 03:27 AM
Hoping for Dermot Weld's lightly raced runner to come in the money .
olddaddy
10-04-2015, 09:02 AM
Not results or payouts listed for first 2 races, must be tote problems.
Tor Ekman
10-04-2015, 09:10 AM
What time is the race?
TVG says 9:55am NY time
ebcorde
10-04-2015, 09:19 AM
still has it, that was my pick. Had him last year , tried again. What a kick.
I hope George ships her to his farm in PA, for the Breeder's cup. This Horse needs another Race before the season ends
davew
10-04-2015, 09:21 AM
Is there any live video of races today from longchamp?


Some ADWs carry Longchamps France - I am watching on Xpressbet

big race starts in about 30 minutes or so
ebcorde
10-04-2015, 09:23 AM
It's weird that you have to bet the horses as an entry to win but as individual betting choices in the exotics. Last yr Treve would have paid $30 bucks , but because of the strange entry rules , she only paid $8 to win , while the $2 dollar exacta paid $438.

they're coupled because the same owner. In Race 2 the 4,5,6 owned by the same guy.
spiketoo
10-04-2015, 09:28 AM
Have the At The Races feed.

Warning - you should have AdBlock enabled. You also should have AdBlock EasyList Filter w/o Element Hiding. Yeah I know a PITA but once its' set, its set.

http://www.stream2watch.co/sports/horse-racing/at-the-races-live-stream-october-04
ebcorde
10-04-2015, 09:32 AM
I don't get. I'm used to the same number. The equibase form says win only, Twinspires has separate odds Flintshire is 15-1., New Bay 5-1. wtf? that ain't coupled.

It may only apply to bettors in France.
Secondbest
10-04-2015, 09:33 AM
Nycotb channel showing the arc
NJ Stinks
10-04-2015, 09:53 AM
TVG in NJ is not taking bets on the Arc?

If true, this stinks! :mad:
davew
10-04-2015, 09:54 AM
I don't get. I'm used to the same number. The equibase form says win only, Twinspires has separate odds Flintshire is 15-1., New Bay 5-1. wtf? that ain't coupled.

It may only apply to bettors in France.

the entry applies to win pool but not place pool?
ronsmac
10-04-2015, 09:55 AM
they're coupled because the same owner. In Race 2 the 4,5,6 owned by the same guy.
I know that . there's no coupling if you bet exactas which is weird.
horses4courses
10-04-2015, 10:03 AM
I think Golden Horn might come for the BC Turf - if the ground isn't soft.

That's the firmest turf I have seen for the Arc in some time.
It didn't suit Treve, and the winner relished it.
I believe the ground made the difference.
ebcorde
10-04-2015, 10:06 AM
Bookmakers in the UK knew something. The wise guy UK money was on Golden Horn. had the Exacta, also had the whole top 5 :rolleyes: but like a dummy did not make a trifecta bet. when I bet the tri some 45-1 shot always messes it up for me over there.
NJ Stinks
10-04-2015, 10:10 AM
TVG in NJ is not taking bets on the Arc?

If true, this stinks! :mad:

Suddenly, I'm getting Longchamp at 4NJbets. It appears I can bet on the remainder of the card.

Anybody else in Jersey having the same strange experience I'm having?
ebcorde
10-04-2015, 10:15 AM
Frankie Dettori is off the drugs.

I like to see the splits, I think they took the speed out of Treve.
kevb
10-04-2015, 10:18 AM
No payoffs from TwinSpires for any of the Longchamp races yet.
ebcorde
10-04-2015, 10:21 AM
is the new Cirrus Des Aigles. He performs well everywhere. This time of the year he could show up anywhere Asia, or America.

To have a cash cow Horse. "The bank account is low honey, enter Flintshire in
a 6 million dollar race"
nearco
10-04-2015, 10:24 AM
Frankie Dettori is off the drugs.

I like to see the splits, I think they took the speed out of Treve.

The horse that led the race for the first 8-9f was Treve's pacemaker.
davew
10-04-2015, 10:28 AM
The horse that led the race for the first 8-9f was Treve's pacemaker.


top3 were running 2,3,4 behind the rabbit - only horse to close was Treve
ebcorde
10-04-2015, 10:33 AM
The horse that led the race for the first 8-9f was Treve's pacemaker.


thanks, no excuse, Ms Head is correct beaten by better Horses. although I did not see the Treve kick. It was a great race.
Grits
10-04-2015, 10:52 AM
An incredible race, year after year. Golden Horn was stunning, and so was the red and gold Arc blanket that covered him after his win. Flintshire, second in this race once again. Love watching this event!
ebcorde
10-04-2015, 11:00 AM
there's a female pundit named Catherine. What's her last name? She's an walking Horse Racing encylopedia. Seen her a lot . never catch her last name.
nearco
10-04-2015, 11:21 AM
there's a female pundit named Catherine. What's her last name? She's an walking Horse Racing encylopedia. Seen her a lot . never catch her last name.

Katerine Ford.
Usually works for French racing channel Equidia. You will probably see her at the Breeders Cup doing the French TV coverage.
She is a pleasure to listen to. Really knows her stuff.

Here's her twitter feed.... https://twitter.com/kfordequidia
classhandicapper
10-04-2015, 11:23 AM
top3 were running 2,3,4 behind the rabbit - only horse to close was Treve


Good note.

It looked like there wasn't much movement in the race when I watched it live, but I haven't watched the replay yet.
thespaah
10-04-2015, 12:02 PM
I see Flintshire at a much higher price than quoted earlier in the thread. Oddschecker has him at 22-1, behind Treve 5-4, New Bay 11-2, Golden Horn 6-1, Free Eagle 16-1 and Found 18-1.
According to the TVG tote board, Flintshire went at 18-1
thespaah
10-04-2015, 12:30 PM
Frankie Dettori is off the drugs.

I like to see the splits, I think they took the speed out of Treve.
I watched the replay.
Here are the splits from the Gallop France video
1400m (7f plus 8m or 25 feet) 1:28.78
1800m (9f +10m 32 feet)..........1:52.97
2000m (10f +38.6 ft) 2:04.82
2200m ( 11f +41 feet) 2:15.58
Fin 2400m( 12f +45 feet) 2:27.23
Using the markers on the inside of the course I guessed a mile in about 1:40..
Those fractions were not fast at all.
The sprint home was fast with a last 400m ( 2f plus 12 feet)
22.35 seconds. last 3f in a snappy 34.27.....
IMO, Flintshire was in a perfect position to win.....He just flat out was outsprinted.....
I want to see Flintshire in the BC Turf....If I can get 3-1, I'm firing at the pot.
thespaah
10-04-2015, 12:32 PM
Knew something? The winner was 9/2 ML.....Final odds were 5-1..
Knew something is when an entrant is say 15-1 goes off at 4-1 and wins for fun..
horses4courses
10-04-2015, 12:45 PM
I watched the replay.
Here are the splits from the Gallop France video
1400m (7f plus 8m or 25 feet) 1:28.78
1800m (9f +10m 32 feet)..........1:52.97
2000m (10f +38.6 ft) 2:04.82
2200m ( 11f +41 feet) 2:15.58
Fin 2400m( 12f +45 feet) 2:27.23
Using the markers on the inside of the course I guessed a mile in about 1:40..
Those fractions were not fast at all.
The sprint home was fast with a last 400m ( 2f plus 12 feet)
22.35 seconds. last 3f in a snappy 34.27.....
IMO, Flintshire was in a perfect position to win.....He just flat out was outsprinted.....
I want to see Flintshire in the BC Turf....If I can get 3-1, I'm firing at the pot.

I think Flintshire, if he comes out of today's race well, is likely for BC Turf.
He's a warrior, likes US style turf tracks, and ships well.
He will be less than a 2-1 favorite, unless Golden Horn shows up.
kevb
10-05-2015, 04:01 AM
I heard the commentators say the Arc would be run at Chantilly next year. It didn't make sense until I saw this:
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/09/29/sport/paris-longchamp-futuristic-stand/index.html
ebcorde
10-05-2015, 05:41 AM
Knew something? The winner was 9/2 ML.....Final odds were 5-1..
Knew something is when an entrant is say 15-1 goes off at 4-1 and wins for fun..


The discussion on 2 British blogs, was speculation why the British oddsmakers were selling Treve at odds higher than 3-5. They were listing 6-5 to 3-1. The blogs were dated Saturday. My comment referred to that.