linrom1
06-08-2004, 08:29 PM
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 16:29:45 -0500
From: frankmac
Subject: X-Mailer: CWMail Web to Mail Gateway 2.8c, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm
Ok ,Larry you have been watching races for 40 years, and you sure know when
you see a bad ride and when you don't. So I have been watching races as
well for 35 years and I know a bad ride as well. Elliot should not have
been on that horse.
And if he was my horse, I would not have a journeyman jockey, or my
son-in-law riding him. There are at least 30 jockeys who if they rode the
horse would have won the triple crown with that horse, you know it and all
those who read this list know it. Peter Tolan it is not sour grapes that I
write about here, say you owned that horse would you have ridden Elliot,
yeah sure you would have. And since you live in La la land you probably
would want luke walton instead of Kobe to take the last shot in the 7 game
of the NBA finals. Elliot was overmatched from day one, and only the
Trainer has the right to defend him. The rest of us know he it just a
journeyman from PHILLY, who has a trainer that values loyalty over common
sense. Nixon was the same way by the way.
The Trainer knows that he got a bad ride, and with your connections to
Santos and the new york crowd, maybe you could ask him for us, what he
really thinks about 10 hard and eddington cooking his horse. Maybe you
could ask Carol, did he get a great ride, and did the people on the
backstretch of Philly Park think that he got a great ride. Since you
brought up Santos, his ride in the preakness and his unprepareness in the
Belmont were sins that we all know about. When you have a horse win by over
5 lengths in a triple crown race you have given the horse a bad ride unless
it is the LAST LEG. Santos did it, and Elliot repeated the mistake. So
maybe we should leave Santos discussion for another day, but with your new
york connections ask the owners of F.cide what they think of his(santos)
ride in the Belmont.
My screensaver is the finish of this years Belmont, and the Jones horse was
beaten ONE length. Also the Jones horse is in the three path or the four
path when he got beat. Are you telling me that three wide on a wide
belmont first turn is not worth 1 length. And then on the backside he is on
the rail, and coming from home he is in the 3 or 4 path. Remember he only
needs a length and one inch. 3 wide at belmont first turn is worth an inch,
from three wide first turn to the rail on the backside to three wide must
be worth something. If any of the sheets people will chime in and tell me
three wide at Belmont is not worth an inch I will shut up. If going three
wide and then down to the rail and then to the three path is not worth a
length tell me that too.
And he moved the horse to soon to boot, and when you are racing for half
america you better not be surprized by anything, you better
move at the right place, and you better admit that the horse HAS SETTLED
in his last four races coming up to the Belmont, and one was in a sea of
mud with the infield pack with Drunks screaming at
you, if he settled there in kentucky the back side of Belmont is a cake
walk.
So here are my arguments.
1. He should have been at Belmont, instead of Philly for the last week. He
should have been jogged there before he raced there.
Thats was the trainers fault, maybe if he was there in New york, he would
have heard about the mugging his horse was about to be given by the New
york elite.
The next time you see 10 hard rock or eddington on the lead with a mile to
run, I will also shut up, But I remember woody and fortyniner, and it was
the same hatchet job that was pulled on the Jones horse.
To Zito the snake. What was all the bs about lost shoes in the derby, did
his horse lose the shoes or was that Zito looking for a excuse. If the
horse had an excuse why did he not run in the preakness. If he had a
excuse run the horse for a million, or was he just sand bagging for the
Belmont.
He used the Derby as a prep race, he worked the horse in 58 to go a mile
and a quarter before that race and then told us it was the shoes. If it was
the shoes run him in the preakness or was he boycotting Magna like we are.
Zito said the horse was sick, then
he was well, then he lost his shoes, and then did he once mention that he
had this monster training up storm, god his last work was for 15K
claimers, not a horse entered into million dollar race. Look 1:15 sucks
and the odds go higher after that work. We running for second and the odds
go higher, Cliff may run and may not and the odds go higher. And in the
Barn is horse ready to close 5 lengths in the belmont 1 and half.
So he is a genius you say, I say he is a snake, he talked and talked about
cliff's edge, but never never Birdstone. He got his odd he made
his money, but he screwed us. If he had once just once said what he had,
and you and I know what he had, a fresh horse, waiting for his new york
friends to cook the pace.
Allen J. told frankel to run the master, because he knew they planned the
woody move and cook the pace on the Podunk jockey, and the master could
close on this group if they burn't the jones horse out. If he had
someone(the Jones horse) who knew what he was going on Instead of MR.
Podunk they could have tried but they would have failed. It was Elliot
fault, because he gave the them the chance and they took it. Do you think
the 30 other jockeys I could name and you could name, and Tolan could name
would have screwed up like elliot did , hell put P.val up on the horse
while he high on drugs and he still wins going away with that horse.
You are to close to the forest Larry to see the Tree's, get out of new york
and see that the rest of the country sees here in the Midwest we know a
bad ride when the see one, and elliots was a bad ride by the infone man.
Another thought, if you want to see another triple, you have to change the
conditions, not the distances.To stop this happening year after year. all
one has to do is change the conditions which governs these three races, if
you run in the derby you caring 126 pounds in the preakness, no derby then
you caring 131 pounds, if you do not run in the preakness then 131 and not
in the derby 136 when they run the belmont. Do you think 5 pounds is
worth a length, if you do then you would have had triple crown winner this
year.
Instead of hiding in the weeds, the snakes with monsters in the barn
waiting to cash a big bet,well the weights would stop these thieves.
Please do not tell me they are rich and do not need the money, all one has
to do is look at Martha Stwart.
You made money Larry, by betting Zito, and if Lukas was there with his
juice all who bet on Lukas in G1 ones would have as well.
But when a trainer works a horse in 1:15 and has a monster, and talks
about cliff being a game time decision, and he is running for second, he
ruins this game.
Frank
So when the Zito folks said they were sorry they
Lied, Big time.
From: frankmac
Subject: X-Mailer: CWMail Web to Mail Gateway 2.8c, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm
Ok ,Larry you have been watching races for 40 years, and you sure know when
you see a bad ride and when you don't. So I have been watching races as
well for 35 years and I know a bad ride as well. Elliot should not have
been on that horse.
And if he was my horse, I would not have a journeyman jockey, or my
son-in-law riding him. There are at least 30 jockeys who if they rode the
horse would have won the triple crown with that horse, you know it and all
those who read this list know it. Peter Tolan it is not sour grapes that I
write about here, say you owned that horse would you have ridden Elliot,
yeah sure you would have. And since you live in La la land you probably
would want luke walton instead of Kobe to take the last shot in the 7 game
of the NBA finals. Elliot was overmatched from day one, and only the
Trainer has the right to defend him. The rest of us know he it just a
journeyman from PHILLY, who has a trainer that values loyalty over common
sense. Nixon was the same way by the way.
The Trainer knows that he got a bad ride, and with your connections to
Santos and the new york crowd, maybe you could ask him for us, what he
really thinks about 10 hard and eddington cooking his horse. Maybe you
could ask Carol, did he get a great ride, and did the people on the
backstretch of Philly Park think that he got a great ride. Since you
brought up Santos, his ride in the preakness and his unprepareness in the
Belmont were sins that we all know about. When you have a horse win by over
5 lengths in a triple crown race you have given the horse a bad ride unless
it is the LAST LEG. Santos did it, and Elliot repeated the mistake. So
maybe we should leave Santos discussion for another day, but with your new
york connections ask the owners of F.cide what they think of his(santos)
ride in the Belmont.
My screensaver is the finish of this years Belmont, and the Jones horse was
beaten ONE length. Also the Jones horse is in the three path or the four
path when he got beat. Are you telling me that three wide on a wide
belmont first turn is not worth 1 length. And then on the backside he is on
the rail, and coming from home he is in the 3 or 4 path. Remember he only
needs a length and one inch. 3 wide at belmont first turn is worth an inch,
from three wide first turn to the rail on the backside to three wide must
be worth something. If any of the sheets people will chime in and tell me
three wide at Belmont is not worth an inch I will shut up. If going three
wide and then down to the rail and then to the three path is not worth a
length tell me that too.
And he moved the horse to soon to boot, and when you are racing for half
america you better not be surprized by anything, you better
move at the right place, and you better admit that the horse HAS SETTLED
in his last four races coming up to the Belmont, and one was in a sea of
mud with the infield pack with Drunks screaming at
you, if he settled there in kentucky the back side of Belmont is a cake
walk.
So here are my arguments.
1. He should have been at Belmont, instead of Philly for the last week. He
should have been jogged there before he raced there.
Thats was the trainers fault, maybe if he was there in New york, he would
have heard about the mugging his horse was about to be given by the New
york elite.
The next time you see 10 hard rock or eddington on the lead with a mile to
run, I will also shut up, But I remember woody and fortyniner, and it was
the same hatchet job that was pulled on the Jones horse.
To Zito the snake. What was all the bs about lost shoes in the derby, did
his horse lose the shoes or was that Zito looking for a excuse. If the
horse had an excuse why did he not run in the preakness. If he had a
excuse run the horse for a million, or was he just sand bagging for the
Belmont.
He used the Derby as a prep race, he worked the horse in 58 to go a mile
and a quarter before that race and then told us it was the shoes. If it was
the shoes run him in the preakness or was he boycotting Magna like we are.
Zito said the horse was sick, then
he was well, then he lost his shoes, and then did he once mention that he
had this monster training up storm, god his last work was for 15K
claimers, not a horse entered into million dollar race. Look 1:15 sucks
and the odds go higher after that work. We running for second and the odds
go higher, Cliff may run and may not and the odds go higher. And in the
Barn is horse ready to close 5 lengths in the belmont 1 and half.
So he is a genius you say, I say he is a snake, he talked and talked about
cliff's edge, but never never Birdstone. He got his odd he made
his money, but he screwed us. If he had once just once said what he had,
and you and I know what he had, a fresh horse, waiting for his new york
friends to cook the pace.
Allen J. told frankel to run the master, because he knew they planned the
woody move and cook the pace on the Podunk jockey, and the master could
close on this group if they burn't the jones horse out. If he had
someone(the Jones horse) who knew what he was going on Instead of MR.
Podunk they could have tried but they would have failed. It was Elliot
fault, because he gave the them the chance and they took it. Do you think
the 30 other jockeys I could name and you could name, and Tolan could name
would have screwed up like elliot did , hell put P.val up on the horse
while he high on drugs and he still wins going away with that horse.
You are to close to the forest Larry to see the Tree's, get out of new york
and see that the rest of the country sees here in the Midwest we know a
bad ride when the see one, and elliots was a bad ride by the infone man.
Another thought, if you want to see another triple, you have to change the
conditions, not the distances.To stop this happening year after year. all
one has to do is change the conditions which governs these three races, if
you run in the derby you caring 126 pounds in the preakness, no derby then
you caring 131 pounds, if you do not run in the preakness then 131 and not
in the derby 136 when they run the belmont. Do you think 5 pounds is
worth a length, if you do then you would have had triple crown winner this
year.
Instead of hiding in the weeds, the snakes with monsters in the barn
waiting to cash a big bet,well the weights would stop these thieves.
Please do not tell me they are rich and do not need the money, all one has
to do is look at Martha Stwart.
You made money Larry, by betting Zito, and if Lukas was there with his
juice all who bet on Lukas in G1 ones would have as well.
But when a trainer works a horse in 1:15 and has a monster, and talks
about cliff being a game time decision, and he is running for second, he
ruins this game.
Frank
So when the Zito folks said they were sorry they
Lied, Big time.