Ronald Reagan quotes---

[schweitz]

"Now, so there will be no misunderstanding, it's not my intention to do away with government. It is rather to make it work---work with us, not over us; to stand by our side, not ride on our back. Government can and must provide opportunity, not smother it; foster productivity, not stifle it."

" Above all we must realize that no arsenal or no weapon in the arsenals of the world is so formidable as the will and moral courae of free men and women."

"Did we forget that government is the people's business, and every man, woman and child becomes a shareholder with the first penny of taxes paid."

"Politics is a very rewarding profession. If you succeed there are many rewards, if you disgrace yourself tou can always write a book."

" America is too great for small dreams."

"We will always remember. We will always be proud. We will always be prepared, so we can always be free."

"Government growing beyond our consent had become a lumbering giant, slamming shut the gates of opportunity, threatening to crush the very roots of our freedom."

"To those who cite the First Amendment as reason foe excluding God from more and more of our institutions and every day life, may I just say: The First Amendment of the Constitution was nor written to protect the people of this country from religious values; it was written to protect religious values from government tyranny."

[Tom]

My favorite, and one that applies here every day...
"There he goes again!"

[Secretariat]

I liked Ronald Reagan's wit, his soothing voice, and his smile.

As to quotes though, I guess the one reported on CBS News tonight is the Reagan quote I remember:

"The most serious crisis of Ronald Reagan's two terms - and the lowest point in his popularity - came after the revelation that his administration had secretly sold arms to Iran and turned over the profits to rebels fighting the Marxist government of Nicaragua.

At the time he was asked if he'd made a mistake in sending arms to Tehran.

His response: "No and I'm not taking any more questions."

Reagan's national security staff approached Iran in an effort to free American hostages being held in Lebanon, despite a vow that the administration would never negotiate with terrorists. "

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/07/eveningnews/main621620.shtml

[JustRalph]

Originally posted by Secretariat
I liked Ronald Reagan's wit, his soothing voice, and his smile.

As to quotes though, I guess the one reported on CBS News tonight is the Reagan quote I remember:

"The most serious crisis of Ronald Reagan's two terms - and the lowest point in his popularity - came after the revelation that his administration had secretly sold arms to Iran and turned over the profits to rebels fighting the Marxist government of Nicaragua.

At the time he was asked if he'd made a mistake in sending arms to Tehran.

His response: "No and I'm not taking any more questions."

Reagan's national security staff approached Iran in an effort to free American hostages being held in Lebanon, despite a vow that the administration would never negotiate with terrorists. "

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/07/eveningnews/main621620.shtml

do you ever take a break from the DNC payroll?

I don't know......lets see.........

The Fall of the Soviet Empire wins the cold war
The Berlin Wall comes down and millions are freed
Tax Cuts that turn the economy around.
His very presence intimidates the Iranians into releasing the Hostages
Complete rebuild of the U.S. Military
Cuts the top tax rate from 70% to 28%

So his staff did an end run around Congress and got caught in the Contra Deal. BTW.......they were all eventually exonerated and all convictions were overturned on appeal. I don't condone it....but I understand it.

He did some arms deals with nasty types who sometimes turn on you later..........he wasn't the first or the last to have this happen....... yeah.....I guess you are right.......Reagan shouldn't be celebrated.........after all he did for eastern Europe etc....it isn't even worth mentioning.............The Contra Deal trumps all. Stop the tributes..........Sec doesn't agree with the majority of the world.

[Secretariat]

Originally posted by JustRalph
Tax Cuts that turn the economy around.
His very presence intimidates the Iranians into releasing the Hostages
Complete rebuild of the U.S. Military
Cuts the top tax rate from 70% to 28%

So his staff did an end run around Congress and got caught in the Contra Deal. BTW.......they were all eventually exonerated and all convictions were overturned on appeal. I don't condone it....but I understand it.

He did some arms deals with nasty types who sometimes turn on you later..........he wasn't the first or the last to have this happen....... yeah.....I guess you are right.......Reagan shouldn't be celebrated.........after all he did for eastern Europe etc....it isn't even worth mentioning.............The Contra Deal trumps all. Stop the tributes..........Sec doesn't agree with the majority of the world.

Yes, some of those nasty types were Saddam Hussein (who btw was suppled chemical weapons during the Reagan Years of which we said nothing about after their deployment and I think we were fighting just about a year ago). Another nasty type was Bin Laden which we supplied weapons too (I think we're still looking for him). I guess we must forget the 1987 Stock Market crash on Black Monday and deficits in his era. You've got be kidding me on the next one - "his very presence intimidated the Iranians into releasing the hostages". If that is so why did he have to make arms deals with Ayatollah Khomeni preceding Iran contra to get Lebanon hostages released (which he denied at first in the above link when asked by Bill Plante and then later had to admit). Shouldn't his presence have made the Ayatollah release those hostages as well? A complete rebuil of the military which Cheyney under Bush I began to dismantle as part of the "peace dividend".

But yes he did cut the millionaires tax rate dramatically. I will agree to that. And yes his words on tear down that wall are memorable, I agree to that, but did he end the cold war, I don't think so. Truth is Russian miltary spending during the 80's was flat, and their system was already crumbing. But if you want to beleive Reagan's presence defeated communism I'm Ok with that.

I don't like speaking ill about the dead because their time is past. I beleive Reagan did inspire the nation. He was confident, and whimsical, and was not as bad as Nixon or GW. I only wish Bush had pushed stem cell research as Nancy urged and perhaps we would have a cure for the disease that took Reagan's (and my grandmother's) life.

[Lefty]

at the time we were more concerned with Iran than Saddam and used him to battle Iran.
Now we've goten rid of Saddam and still the libs complain.
Reagan cut tax rates down the line and not just for the rich, but the libs don't want anyone perceived as successful to benefit from their own money. Btw, the rich are the ones that invest the money and grow their businesses and guess what, that creates jobs. VOILA!
Stock Mkt crash was a big correction and it quickly came back. Everyone that didn't panic eventually got any paper losses back.
Why don't you guys just rename the Dem party the Socialist party and be done with it?

[Lefty]

That one line of Reagan's is a hoot. "if you disgrace yourself, you can write a book." Guess whose book is about to be released?

[JustRalph]

Originally posted by Lefty
That one line of Reagan's is a hoot. "if you disgrace yourself, you can write a book." Guess whose book is about to be released?

Yeah....and he is pissed because he hasn't been asked to speak at Reagans funeral.................Yeah right..........

[Tom]

Ralph, don't foget he sent a missling into Khadafy's bedroom and shut that bozo for decades.

Sec, the reason they spent so much was that Reagan sparked fear in their hearts. His star wars bluff was believed almost as much as you libs believe hcap's posts (LOL)

He turned the economy around so well that it took Bill 8 years to screw it up, which he did just before Bush came on board.

[Buckeye]

"I paid for this microphone!"

[Secretariat]

Originally posted by Tom
R
Sec, the reason they spent so much was that Reagan sparked fear in their hearts. His star wars bluff was believed almost as much as you libs believe hcap's posts (LOL)



Wait a minute Tom, are you saying Star Wars was a bluff...Interesting....btw..if it was a bluff why have we kept on with spending billions on it ever since especially since there is no Soviet Union....

A little tidbit Tom. Soviet Defense spending was flat during the 90s. If Reagan was bluffing, the Soviets appparently never raised and called, because they were already almost broke due to the corruption and greed of their own party members. But as I said to Lefty, if you want to beleive in the myth that Reagan "sparked fear in their hearts" go for it.

[JustRalph]

Originally posted by Secretariat
Wait a minute Tom, are you saying Star Wars was a bluff...Interesting....btw..if it was a bluff why have we kept on with spending billions on it ever since especially since there is no Soviet Union....

A little tidbit Tom. Soviet Defense spending was flat during the 90s. If Reagan was bluffing, the Soviets appparently never raised and called, because they were already almost broke due to the corruption and greed of their own party members. But as I said to Lefty, if you want to beleive in the myth that Reagan "sparked fear in their hearts" go for it.

I don't know where you get your history from Sec, But Gorby himself admits to Reagan bluffing them into what he called "Change" and "real discussion about giving up on the idea of taking the U.S. on"

On the Star Wars issue, it was a bluff during early development and they leaked a disinformation campaign that made the Soviets think it was working. This included some tests that made it look like it was working. But....over the last 15 years they have made great progress and it is working over 80% of the time. If you look in to the development of other weapons systems you will find that 20 years is nothing in the life of many weapons systems. The Stealth Tech stuff is a great example.

On the subject of weapons systems etc.........do a search for the 'Aurora Aircraft" and you will find that Reagan went to the mat for that program. We still are not sure what benefits it will bring. The fact that Reagan had this kind of vision eludes some people. I think you have to have a little forward vision of your own to get it.................

If you don't think Reagan sparked fear in the hearts of many of our enemies........explain the Iranian hostage release etc.

[Secretariat]

Originally posted by JustRalph

If you don't think Reagan sparked fear in the hearts of many of our enemies........explain the Iranian hostage release etc.

You raise a lot of issues about weapons, etc....Reagan never met a weapons system he didn't like I'll give you that..

As to the other issue you raise...the October Surprise...

I don't think it was fear so much as the following. It is a pretty amazing read.

http://www.aiipowmia.com/other/iranhstgcrss80.html

[Lefty]

The October Surprise Never Happened.
And you prob. know it and continue to promulgate the lie.

[doophus]

Originally posted by Secretariat
..............As to the other issue you raise...the October Surprise...

I don't think it was fear so much as the following. It is a pretty amazing read.

http://www.aiipowmia.com/other/iranhstgcrss80.html GARY SICK....long-time recognized as a "fabricator."

Check out the following:

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/1048

[Secretariat]

Originally posted by doophus
GARY SICK....long-time recognized as a "fabricator."

Check out the following:

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/1048

Daniel Pipes is your refutation of Mr. Sick:

Check out who this Mr. Pipes is you’re referring to.

http://www.motherjones.com/news/update/2003/05/we_420_01.html

It’s not just Mr. Sicks who made the October Surpise allegations anyway:

Ari Ben-Menashe, who worked for the Israeli intelligence agency, the Mossad, before he surfaced to write a tell-all book, Profits of War (1991). Ben-Menashe says he was part of a team which worked with the French to arrange secret meetings between George Bush, William Casey, and the Iranians. At one particular meeting in Paris, on October 19, 1980, a final agreement allegedly was concluded: In exchange for a $40 million bribe and future arms shipments, the Iranians agreed not to release the American hostages until the January 1981 Presidential inauguration. This, in fact, did happen; the 52 hostages were released on January 20, 1981.

Barbara Honegger worked for the Reagan administration in the White House Office of Policy Development. She worked there for 3 years before she became "the first resignation of conscience from the Reagan-Bush Administration." She held off from publishing her book, October Surprise, until 1989, due to a sense of loyalty she felt toward Ronald Reagan.

Honegger points out that George Bush had been a Director of CIA and, as such, had plenty of covert connections and know-how with which to implement secret dealings between the Republicans and Iran. Many in CIA hated Jimmy Carter for downsizing the Agency and were eager for revenge.
For example, Honegger points to the many witnesses who have gone public concerning the affair. While some might consider these CIA contract agents to be shady characters and therefore not sterling witnesses, she asks: Why didn't this body of witnesses ever get to tell their stories to the American people? Writes Honegger: "As an independent journalist, I believe profoundly in the right of the American public to hear from all parties who claim to have information on charges as serious as that an arms-for-hostage-delay deal was made between the Reagan-Bush campaign and Iran."

Shades of Sibel Edmonds today.

[JustRalph]

dueling Links.....wow!

[doophus]

Sec...

Gary Sick, MotherJones, accusations by the Massachusetts swimmer that George the Elder made multiple secret trips to France in a SR-71 (I think the referenced SR-71 is now being displayed at the museum in Huntsville, huh, Larry.....

In my past responses, I have expressed my belief that Moses screwed-up big-time. He forgot to listen when God told him to take the Promised Land, Mediterranean to Persian Gulf. The Jews have paid dearly since.

BTW, in the above I guess you can surmise that I am philosophically much closer to Dan Pipes than to Gary Sick or MotherJones or any Democrat or democrat-wannabe Republican.

George
A very proud right-wing neo-con! Oh, also a redneck!

[Secretariat]

Well doophus, not sure I made out all you wrote there, but what is past is past.

I do notice you are listed as "Southern Gentleman" so I do have a question that has been on my mind.

Why does the South and North still split so much politically? Why does the South vote generally vote Republican since that Texan Johnson was in the White House? (JR and Lefty and Tom - this post is just for Doophus)

[Tom]

Originally posted by JustRalph
dueling Links.....wow!

LOL....whre is that Deliverence Kid?
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[doophus]

Originally posted by Secretariat
Well doophus, not sure I made out all you wrote there, but what is past is past.

I do notice you are listed as "Southern Gentleman" so I do have a question that has been on my mind.

Why does the South and North still split so much politically? Why does the South vote generally vote Republican since that Texan Johnson was in the White House? (JR and Lefty and Tom - this post is just for Doophus) Despite the racial overtone of your question ("Southern", although my location has always been plainly shown, and "Texan Johnson")......I refer you to a book written by brothers, Earl & Merle Black, published by Harvard Press, "The Rise of Southern Republicans." It shouldn't be very hard to find. Also, one of these days the North will wise-up.

[JustRalph]

Originally posted by Tom
LOL....whre is that Deliverence Kid?
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banjo (http://www.evildave.com/sounds/banjo2.wav)

[Secretariat]

Originally posted by doophus
Despite the racial overtone of your question ("Southern", although my location has always been plainly shown, and "Texan Johnson")......I refer you to a book written by brothers, Earl & Merle Black, published by Harvard Press, "The Rise of Southern Republicans." It shouldn't be very hard to find. Also, one of these days the North will wise-up.

Thanks for the book tip. Will check it out. Not sure about the racial comment though. It says "Southern Gentleman" and hence I referred to you as such. As to my reference that Texan Johnson, I guess I always viewed Texas as part of the South. They seem to vote that way nowadays.

[Shacopate]

Some of my favorite Reagan quotes:


---From the hospital, after being shot in an assasination attempt:


"Who's minding the store?"


---From the Reagan-Carter debate:


"Barbara, you've asked that question twice, you ought to have at least one answer to it."


---From the Reagan-Mondale debate:


"I don't think age should be an issue in this campaign, (Reagan was in his 70's when seeking re-election), so I'm not going to hold my opponents inexperience against him."


President Reagan was a great leader with enormous wit and humility. A true gentleman and great American.

[Secretariat]

I thought I';d throw in a few Reagan quotes as well:

"Because Vietnam was not a declared war, the veterans are not even eligible for the G. I. Bill of Rights with respect to education or anything." -- Reagan, '80

"It would be a user fee ..." -- Reagan, '82, explaining how a five cent a gallon tax on gasoline isn't actually a tax.

"I cannot recall anything whatsoever about whether I approved an Israeli sale in advance, or whether I approved replenishment of Israeli stocks around August of 1985. My answer therefore, and the simple truth, is 'I don't remember, period'." -- Reagan, Feb. '87

"A few months ago, I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and evidence tell me it is not." -- Reagan, Mar. '87

[doophus]

Originally posted by Secretariat
I thought I';d throw in a few Reagan quotes as well:

"Because Vietnam was not a declared war, the veterans are not even eligible for the G. I. Bill of Rights with respect to education or anything." -- Reagan, '80

"It would be a user fee ..." -- Reagan, '82, explaining how a five cent a gallon tax on gasoline isn't actually a tax.

"I cannot recall anything whatsoever about whether I approved an Israeli sale in advance, or whether I approved replenishment of Israeli stocks around August of 1985. My answer therefore, and the simple truth, is 'I don't remember, period'." -- Reagan, Feb. '87

"A few months ago, I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and evidence tell me it is not." -- Reagan, Mar. '87 Can you imagine Clinton's popularity IF he had the balls to make such statements? Honesty ruled the roost in Reagan's day. Now, it's a liability?

[Dave Schwartz]

I seem to have joined this late... My favorite quote attributed to Reagan:

"I've noticed that everybody who is for abortion has already been born."


Regards,
Dave Schwartz

[Secretariat]

Originally posted by doophus
Can you imagine Clinton's popularity IF he had the balls to make such statements? Honesty ruled the roost in Reagan's day. Now, it's a liability?

Chuckle...

With honesty like that who needs lies....

Here's a couple more:

"80 percent of air pollution comes not from chimneys and auto exhaust pipes, but from plants and trees." -- Reagan, '79

"There is today in the United States as much forest as there was when Washington was at Valley Forge." -- Reagan, '83

"Fascism was really the basis for the New Deal.." -- Reagan, '76

"Jefferson Davis is a hero of mine." -- Reagan, in a speech he gave to a crowd in Atlanta, GA.

"Facts are stupid things." -- Reagan, '88

"I never wear (makeup). I didn't wear it when I was in pictures." -- Reagan, '84. (This was promptly disputed and soundly proven false the very next day by G.E. Theater makeup man Howard Smith, Death Valley Days makeup man Del Acevedo, and debate panelist James Weighart, as well as Mayor Edward Bergin, recalling a recent presidential visit to Connecticut.) (Reagan also repeatedly denied dying his hair!)

[GameTheory]

Not all of that is so ridiculous. For instance, it has been shown (much more recently that Reagan said it, however), that trees DO emit significant amounts of isoprene and other hydrocarbons that contribute heavily to smog and deplete the ozone layer. And I don't know about Valley Forge, but there is more forest now in the U.S. than there was say 80 years ago.

I read an interesting article in the L.A. Times recently that everything that detractors of Reagan (many of whom are praising his greatness) were saying back in the 80's is almost exactly what the detractors of Bush are saying now, e.g. that he is a dim-wit, that he sees everything in black and white, etc.

In any case, trying to sum up a man with some out-of-context one-liners (in a positive or negative way) seems dubious at best...

[Suff]

Did this quote make it in... (I don't have time to read the entire thread)

"I'm ronald reagan, who are you"?

answer

"I'm your son'


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This exchange was when RR went to his sons boarding school to make a speech and didn't even recognize his own son..

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Another "Family Values, Traditional Family , pontificating Hypocrite.

[Tom]

I did not have sex with that women, Miss Lewinski!
Oopps! Wrong thread!