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lamboguy
05-30-2015, 03:34 AM
starting June 1 if your horse leaves the grounds for any reason, when the horse returns he must be on the grounds for 14 days before he can run in a race at Parx.

i don't know the particulars of this rule change but think its going to be good and i will have to adjust my handicapping accordingly.

Brogan
05-30-2015, 06:39 AM
So just bet the ship ins?

DSB
05-30-2015, 08:57 AM
So just bet the ship ins?

Why would you do that? I'm sure they are going to quarantine ship ins for 14 days, too..... :rolleyes:

Saratoga_Mike
05-30-2015, 11:01 AM
starting June 1 if your horse leaves the grounds for any reason, when the horse returns he must be on the grounds for 14 days before he can run in a race at Parx.

i don't know the particulars of this rule change but think its going to be good and i will have to adjust my handicapping accordingly.

Good for them - hopefully the rule will be applied to all trainers. Unless it's a stakes race, those stabled at PRX should race at PRX, not ship to Del, Pim or Mth.

Donttellmeshowme
05-30-2015, 11:18 AM
Horses were leaving the grounds to go get shock wave therapy so they trying to prevent that that's why this rule went into place.

Saratoga_Mike
05-30-2015, 11:19 AM
Didn't know that - thx

thespaah
05-30-2015, 09:28 PM
Horses were leaving the grounds to go get shock wave therapy so they trying to prevent that that's why this rule went into place.
Why would track management want to prevent horses from getting what appears to be beneficial medical treatment?

Saratoga_Mike
05-30-2015, 09:50 PM
Why would track management want to prevent horses from getting what appears to be beneficial medical treatment?

If used close enough to the race (a couple days out), the therapy can act as an analgesic. It is used properly to aid/speed up the healing process.

Donttellmeshowme
05-30-2015, 11:57 PM
Why would track management want to prevent horses from getting what appears to be beneficial medical treatment?




It also can be used as a block if done 1-2 days before the horse runs.

TonyK@HSH
05-31-2015, 11:58 AM
Horses were leaving the grounds to go get shock wave therapy so they trying to prevent that that's why this rule went into place.


Correct

castaway01
05-31-2015, 12:39 PM
Why would track management want to prevent horses from getting what appears to be beneficial medical treatment?

It's being misused by some barns.

Dave Schwartz
05-31-2015, 02:03 PM
1. Do shippers from another track also have to wait 14 days?

2. Can a horse run at PRX without being stabled there?

3. Is this common at other tracks?

Saratoga_Mike
05-31-2015, 03:00 PM
Correct

Without providing names (of course), how many trainers do you think were shipping out and back in for shockwave therapy a few days before a race?

thespaah
06-01-2015, 12:57 PM
It's being misused by some barns.
Would you care to expound upon this?

Donttellmeshowme
06-01-2015, 06:15 PM
Would you care to expound upon this?




probably using the day of the race is what i would expect. i think theres a time frame that you can use the shock wave machine before a race.

TonyK@HSH
06-01-2015, 08:35 PM
Without providing names (of course), how many trainers do you think were shipping out and back in for shockwave therapy a few days before a race?

The rule seems to be aimed at 4-6 trainers who have a regular pattern of taking horses off the grounds. It certainly does not affect most of the trainers there.

TonyK@HSH
06-01-2015, 08:38 PM
1. Do shippers from another track also have to wait 14 days?

2. Can a horse run at PRX without being stabled there?

3. Is this common at other tracks?


1. Shippers are not subjected to the 14 day waiting period.
2. Yes Horses ship from other tracks and training centers every day to run at Parx
3. I'm not aware of another track that has such a rule, but that doesn't mean it hasn't existed. This is a very unusual and specific action taken by track management.

TonyK@HSH
06-01-2015, 08:44 PM
probably using the day of the race is what i would expect. i think theres a time frame that you can use the shock wave machine before a race.

In PA the use is regulated-

In summary, all shockwave devices must be registered with the Chief Commission Veterinarian. Only licensed vets are permitted to use the device.
Each use of the device must be reported to the state veterinarian and stewards on a daily medication report.
The device must be used at least 7 days prior to participating in a race.

castaway01
06-01-2015, 08:44 PM
Would you care to expound upon this?

TonyK summed it up very well---same information I got from a guy who trains there (not naming names, sorry).

Robert Goren
06-02-2015, 11:07 AM
Too many horses shipping to Aqueduct to "steal" an easy purse. :rolleyes:

lamboguy
06-02-2015, 01:56 PM
the thing that i really like about this rule change is that Parx is coming out in the open, they are saying that they know that shockwaving is going on and they are making an effort to do something about it.

now horse racing fans can see that the management is making an effort to fend off cheating and they are rewarding the place with an increase in handle.

Parx is a funny type of place, they have the casino but still want racing to do well. this is a great step.

GatetoWire
06-02-2015, 02:10 PM
the thing that i really like about this rule change is that Parx is coming out in the open, they are saying that they know that shockwaving is going on and they are making an effort to do something about it.

now horse racing fans can see that the management is making an effort to fend off cheating and they are rewarding the place with an increase in handle.

Parx is a funny type of place, they have the casino but still want racing to do well. this is a great step.

Is this a joke?
Obscene takeout, the worst collection of gas trainers ever, jockeys with buzzers, a turf course that looks like a plowed field and an attempt by management to prevent jockeys from riding without signing a liability wavier.

Parx is a toilet boil that needs to be flushed....not supported.

Dave Schwartz
06-02-2015, 02:47 PM
1. Shippers are not subjected to the 14 day waiting period.
2. Yes Horses ship from other tracks and training centers every day to run at Parx
3. I'm not aware of another track that has such a rule, but that doesn't mean it hasn't existed. This is a very unusual and specific action taken by track management.


That's what I thought, Tony. Thanks.

Is this punitive to make them keep the stalls full?

lamboguy
06-02-2015, 03:17 PM
Is this a joke?
Obscene takeout, the worst collection of gas trainers ever, jockeys with buzzers, a turf course that looks like a plowed field and an attempt by management to prevent jockeys from riding without signing a liability wavier.

Parx is a toilet boil that needs to be flushed....not supported.I'm not making a joke. what do you think other places don't have the same stuff going on? at least this place is openly making an effort to correct it.

as far as takeout goes, my takeout after rebate is less than Monmouth, Churchill, Santa Anita, Gulfstream, and NYRA. their signal fees are nowhere near as much as other places.

onefast99
06-03-2015, 11:59 AM
Too many horses shipping to Aqueduct to "steal" an easy purse. :rolleyes:
Check your facts. NYRA has imposed some very strong medication rules. You wont see many Parx horses coming to the NYRA circuit anytime soon.