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JohnGalt1
05-17-2015, 10:21 AM
I live in Minnesota so my favorite meet is Canterbury Park.

This year purses are up again thanks to Mystic Lake Casino's deal with Canterbury to not try for a Racino.

Horses come from all over the country, and barns are full this year.

Unfortunately, Canterbury will join the SUCKER jackpot crowd in June when they add a SUCKER jackpot pick 5. They have never offered a pick 5. They have never had a jackpot bet.

I don't know the minimum bet yet or what % will be paid and what % will roll over. The pick 4 has a 14% take out.

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What's your opinion of the proliferation of jackpot bets? Read my opinion in the Hawthorne 2015 thread of Gulfstream's Rainbow 6 close out.

Do you play them?

Are they here to stay?

castaway01
05-17-2015, 10:32 AM
So it's a Pick 5 where you have to be the only winner to get the big payoff?

rgustafson
05-17-2015, 10:49 AM
I live in Minnesota so my favorite meet is Canterbury Park.

This year purses are up again thanks to Mystic Lake Casino's deal with Canterbury to not try for a Racino.

Horses come from all over the country, and barns are full this year.

Unfortunately, Canterbury will join the SUCKER jackpot crowd in June when they add a SUCKER jackpot pick 5. They have never offered a pick 5. They have never had a jackpot bet.

I don't know the minimum bet yet or what % will be paid and what % will roll over. The pick 4 has a 14% take out.

*************

What's your opinion of the proliferation of jackpot bets? Read my opinion in the Hawthorne 2015 thread of Gulfstream's Rainbow 6 close out.

Do you play them?

Are they here to stay?

I'm also a Canterbury regular and as we know, nobody here bets any real amount of money on anything so it better be a dime bet and even then I think the pool will be tiny unless the carry over reaches a few thousand dollars.
Bob

DeltaLover
05-17-2015, 03:08 PM
Do you play them?
Are they here to stay?

I never play these ridiculous bets but I am afraid the are here to stay. There seem to be a lot of lotto players who confuse their favourite game with horses

Prairie Bettor
05-17-2015, 03:40 PM
I live in Minnesota so my favorite meet is Canterbury Park.

This year purses are up again thanks to Mystic Lake Casino's deal with Canterbury to not try for a Racino.

Horses come from all over the country, and barns are full this year.



Are the barns really full?

I noticed again today only 8 races. 58 horses entered, 7 scratches so far so only 51 scheduled to race.

Fingal
05-17-2015, 04:02 PM
Are the barns really full?

I noticed again today only 8 races. 58 horses entered, 7 scratches so far so only 51 scheduled to race.

Training & racing are 2 different things. Back a few years ago at Santa Anita (I believe it was during the pro-ride era) horsemen were raving about how good the surface was to train on. The only problem was that they didn't enter to race.

And yes jackpot bets are here to stay regardless of the takeout. As long as there are large glitzy payoffs the millennial crowd they were designed for won't care about any takeout (real cost) of making the bet. Just look at state lotteries- what's the takeout & people keep pumping money into those pools. As they say here in California- "Imagine what a buck can do" :bang:

chadk66
05-17-2015, 05:36 PM
I doubt it's full. I heard Diadoro has like 80 stalls. The number of two years olds there will be staggering.

maclr11
05-17-2015, 05:53 PM
I heard that all stalls are allocated,
Canterbury hurts itself because the track only opens for training a couple weeks before racing. It takes a while for all the barns to get to full speed

JohnGalt1
05-17-2015, 07:25 PM
Dallas Keen and Tom Amoss will send horses. Keen will train for Midwest Thoroughbreds and Amoss has 30 stalls.

On Canterbury's website Eric Halstrom said they've had to turn down some trainers. Now they just have to get them to race the horses.

One interesting thing is Canterbury now has 4 trainers who have won with 25%+ at different race meetings---Mac Robertson, Cby leading trainer every year except 2014, Robertino Diadoro, who led last year, Clay Brinson, and now Amoss.

I also believe jackpot bets are less successful at track with smaller pools.

I never say never, so I'll just say I'll probably not play it.

By the way I handicapped Saturday's card and stayed home and just played Pimlico. Too many MN breds with no races since last Summer. In the Stakes race, the only horse with a recent race one at 1.70-1.

I'll try again next Saturday. I hope fields will be bigger and more turf races are carded.