derby post position draw

[boys at tosconova]

multiple horses are going to get fkd

post 1 is an autotoss and post 20 is close behind 1 for different reasons

post 16>19 is cause for great concern as well..moreso if you havanospeed..dunno about post 2 but i don;t think i would want to be there as well

[BlueChip@DRF]

I eliminate posts 1 - 4 for the Win position. Unless you are some freaky mad super-closer. I would rather have my prime pick in any post of the auxiliary gate than inside on post 1.

[SecretAgentMan]

Anyone hearing that El Kabeir may be scratched?

[BlueChip@DRF]

Anyone hearing that El Kabeir may be scratched?

Rumor. But he only had one workout when he arrived at the track and never went back. Hmmmmm....

[Giacomo05]

Anyone hearing that El Kabeir may be scratched?

That's the word at Churchill.. Hope he does, I really want Frammento to get in.

[SecretAgentMan]

That's the word at Churchill.. Hope he does, I really want Frammento to get in.


So do I......

[ThinkingAlways]

Rumor. But he only had one workout when he arrived at the track and never went back. Hmmmmm....

He was back on the track this morning.

[minethatbird08]

Watching draw on nbc sports

[minethatbird08]

Post 4 tencendur

[BlueChip@DRF]

Watching draw on nbc sports

Give us an update. I don't have access to watch. Thanx!

[minethatbird08]

Post 10 firing line
Post 5 Danzig Moon
Post 11 Stanford
Post 13 itsaknockout
Post 20 Far Right

[minethatbird08]

Post 16 war story
Post 14 keen ice
Post 19 upstart
Post 15 frosted

[PizzaCat]

Love the spot for Firing Line at 10 next to Stanford.

1 2 and 3 are still available and no Dortmund, AP, or CD yet!

[horses4courses]

Baffert has to be sweating right now.

10 drawn - neither of his - and 1-3 are still open, plus two outside holes.

Good draw for Dortmund, not so for AP.

However, Baffert has to be happier than Pletcher with the draw.

If the horse is best on the day, and can avoid a bad trip,
a bad draw can be overcome.

[minethatbird08]

Commercial

Did not know but itsaknockout is locally owned and I guess last locally owned winner was old rosebud in like 1914, piece of trivia.

[PizzaCat]

AP at 18!

[minethatbird08]

Post 7 el kabeir
Post 18 American pharoah

[PizzaCat]

Ouch, 2 for Carpe Diem

[minethatbird08]

Post 9 bolo
Post 2 Carpe Diem
Post 8 Dortmund

[PizzaCat]

Is Moob going to draw the 1?

[maliksealy210]

Well there goes my plan to bet Ocho Ocho Ocho

[minethatbird08]

Post 12 international star
Post 3 Materiality
Post 6 Mubtaahij
Post 17 mr z
Post 1 ocho 3

[minethatbird08]

Field is set. Looks like I may have to drop Carpe Diem

[luisbe]

Here they are.

[wisconsin]

I'm fairly certain Mr Z will make it difficult for American Pharoah to get good position early, and keep the 17 hole winless.

[luisbe]

...with morning line:

[minethatbird08]

I'm fairly certain Mr Z will make it difficult for American Pharoah to get good position early, and keep the 17 hole winless.

They are owned by the same person.

[Tommy Tom]

By the way, ever wondered which posts fare best? A breakdown of winning percentages since Churchill began using a starting gate in 1930: No. 1 (9.4%), No. 2 (8.2%), No. 3 (5.9%), No. 4 (5.9%), No. 5 (10.6%), No. 6 (2.4%), No. 7 (7.1%), No. 8 (9.5%), No. 9 (4.9%), No. 10 (11.5%), No. 11 (2.7%), No. 12 (4.3%), No. 13 (5.9%), No. 14 (3.3%), No. 15 (7.5%), No. 16 (9.3%), No. 17 (0%), No. 18 (3.6%), No. 19 (4.2%) and No. 20 (7.1%).

Source:

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/horses/triple/derby/2015/04/29/kentucky-derby-2015--complete-post-positions-odds-american-pharoah-the-favorite/26585769/

[Spiderman]

multiple horses are going to get fkd

post 1 is an autotoss and post 20 is close behind 1 for different reasons

post 16>19 is cause for great concern as well..moreso if you havanospeed..dunno about post 2 but i don;t think i would want to be there as well

I'll Have Another, post :19: won, three years ago
Animal Kingdom, post :16: won, four years ago

And, neither have what you may consider early speed

[Spiderman]

Field is set. Looks like I may have to drop Carpe Diem

Back to the pps for me, too

[luisbe]

I'll Have Another, post :19: won, two years ago
Animal Kingdom, post :16: won, three years ago

Big Brown from :20: in 2008.

[TJDave]

Field is set. Looks like I may have to drop Carpe Diem

I wouldn't think that wise. Our last TC winner came from the 2 hole and if you add in the 3 & 4 you're talking about most of racing's royalty.

I wouldn't throw out any Derby horse based solely on PP.

[RXB]

Ouch, 2 for Carpe Diem

There's nothing wrong with the 2 post. A pair of seconds and four thirds in the past 25 runnings. Only the 1 post has perhaps been a problem in the age of huge Derby fields (no appearances in the tri since 1988) and even that could be a matter of limited sample size.

[TJDave]

They are owned by the same person.

You think there might be a gentlemen's agreement?

[ILovetheInner]

Wow, that's adding insult to injury to Pletcher!

[minethatbird08]

I wouldn't think that wise. Our last TC winner came from the 2 hole and if you add in the 3 & 4 you're talking about most of racing's royalty.

I wouldn't throw out any Derby horse based solely on PP.


Thanks,
I'm stepping back from the ledge. I really just want him for my super.

[luisbe]

BTW, Mubtaahij at 20-1 ML is a non-sense.

[jettroofer]

I'll Have Another, post :19: won, three years ago
Animal Kingdom, post :16: won, four years ago

And, neither have what you may consider early speed

Candy Boy was my pick last year for a decent price horse coming out of the :18: . I remember the air coming out of my lungs when he got checked hard before the first turn

[Giacomo05]

Last horse to come out of the :18: and win, was Gato Del Sol back in 1982.

[minethatbird08]

You think there might be a gentlemen's agreement?

I guess you could put it that way. They aren't going to go out of their way to give AP a bad trip.

[boys at tosconova]

I'll Have Another, post :19: won, three years ago
Animal Kingdom, post :16: won, four years ago

And, neither have what you may consider early speed

thanx for the riveting 50% correct example..and really..you mean non speed horses have won from an outside post in the derby...thanx