Group test, playing the Pick 3 or 4's

[Ray2000]

Feel free to add in your 'Juicy' picks on these tickets.
and we'll see what happens....

I'll be using tracks that "should get" $1,000 in Pic 3 pools, $2,000 in Pic 4s:
Balmoral/Maywood
Cal-Expo
Freehold
Hoosier
Meadowlands
Meadows
Mohawk
Monticello
Northfield
Philly
Pompano
Pocono
Yonkers

Buffalo, Vernon, Tioga, Scioto are "iffy"
Western Fair is out even with big enough pools because TRC doesn't carry results the Bot can find. :mad:
Races with coupled entries are not used, too much work :)

Thursday Apr 23rd, ....still might have some bugs in here...
Freehold R2.....Pic 4 ....2,1 / 5,8,2 / 5,4 / 2
Freehold R3.....Pic 3 ....5,8,2 / 5,4 / 2
Freehold R6.....Pic 4 ....1,8 / 3 / 2 / 5
Freehold R7.....Pic 3 ....3 / 2 / 5

Hoosier R1......Pic 3 ....1 / 5,2 / 9
Hoosier R2......Pic 3 ....5,2 / 9 / 4
Hoosier R3......Pic 4 ....9 / 4 / 4 / 5,1,3
Hoosier R4......Pic 3 ....4 / 4 / 5,1,3
Hoosier R5......Pic 3 ....4 / 5,1,3 / 5
Hoosier R6......Pic 3 ....5,1,3 / 5 / 2,1
Hoosier R7......Pic 3 ....5 / 2,1 / 5

Maywood R4......Pic 3 ....5 / 1 / 5
Maywood R7......Pic 4 ....4 / 3,6 / 2,3 / 2,3 Free Program http://www.trackmaster.com/usta


Mohawk R1.......Pic 3 ....1,2 / 1,6,5 / 8
Mohawk R2.......Pic 3 ....1,6,5 / 8 / 8
Mohawk R3.......Pic 3 ....8 / 8 / 6
Mohawk R4.......Pic 3 ....8 / 6 / 1
Mohawk R5.......Pic 3 ....6 / 1 / 6,5
Mohawk R6.......Pic 3 ....1 / 6,5 / 3
Mohawk R7.......Pic 3 ....6,5 / 3 / 5
Mohawk R8.......Pic 3 ....3 / 5 / 6,7 http://www.woodbineentertainment.com/Woodbine/Racing/Pages/FreeProgramDownloads.aspx

Monticello R1...Pic 3 ....1 / 6 / 3
Monticello R2...Pic 3 ....6 / 3 / 1
Monticello R4...Pic 3 ....1 / 6 / 3
Monticello R5...Pic 3 ....6 / 3 / 1
Monticello R6...Pic 3 ....3 / 1 / 4
Monticello R7...Pic 3 ....1 / 4 / 2,5,4

Northfield R6...Pic 3 ....1,4 / 2 / 2,7
Northfield R8...Pic 4 ....2,7 / 2,4,1 / 9,5,1 / 1,4,5
Northfield R9...Pic 3 ....2,4,1 / 9,5,1 / 1,4,5
Northfield R12..Pic 3 ....2 / 3,6 / 3,6

Chester R3......Pic 3 ....5,4 / 8 / 3
Chester R7......Pic 4 ....5 / 7,8 / 6,7 / 5
Chester R11.....Pic 3 ....3,2 / 4,5,3 / 5,4

Yonkers R2......Pic 3 ....5 / 1,5 / 2,1
Yonkers R3......Pic 4 ....1,5 / 2,1 / 3 / 4
Yonkers R4......Pic 3 ....2,1 / 3 / 4
Yonkers R5......Pic 4 ....3 / 4 / 4,2,5 / 3
Yonkers R8......Pic 3 ....3 / 1 / 5,2,1

Good Luck, One and All...

[EdZone]

Hoosier R7......Add http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/9h_zpsf74a68b8.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/9h_zpsf74a68b8.jpg.html) Its a Big Secret
Hoosier R9......Add http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/5h_zpsf9335253.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/5h_zpsf9335253.jpg.html) Trashytonguetalker
Maywood R7......Add http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/5h_zpsf9335253.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/5h_zpsf9335253.jpg.html) Dave's Art
Mohawk R10.......Add http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/3h_zps0a91b7d9.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/3h_zps0a91b7d9.jpg.html) Regil Hurricane

[coachv30]

Mohawk

Race 5: Add :4: :9: :10:

Race 6: Add :2: :4:

Race 7: Add :8:

Race 8: Add :6: :10:

[coachv30]

Mohawk

Race 9: :1: :7:

Race 10: :10:

[Ray2000]

Still doing some "fine tuning" on these plays.
Yesterday, with the add-ons, produced no return on 338 $1 tickets. (Ignoring scratches)

I'm going to limit my picks to "2 deep" on any leg.
That will allow for other picks by you guys without straining the budget:)

Friday, Apr 24...176 tkts
Freehold R2.....Pic 4 ....3 / 8,3 / 8,4 / 4,5
Freehold R3.....Pic 3 ....8,3 / 8,4 / 4,5
Freehold R6.....Pic 3 ....5 / 2 / 1
Freehold R8.....Pic 4 ....1 / 5,3 / 2 / 2,4
Freehold R9.....Pic 3 ....5,3 / 2 / 2,4

Hoosier R1......Pic 3 ....2,5 / 3 / 4
Hoosier R2......Pic 3 ....3 / 4 / 4
Hoosier R3......Pic 4 ....4 / 4 / 8,3 / 5,4
Hoosier R4......Pic 3 ....4 / 8,3 / 5,4
Hoosier R5......Pic 3 ....8,3 / 5,4 / 6
Hoosier R6......Pic 3 ....5,4 / 6 / 8,5
Hoosier R7......Pic 3 ....6 / 8,5 / 7
Hoosier R8......Pic 3 ....8,5 / 7 / 2
Hoosier R9......Pic 3 ....7 / 2 / 10
Hoosier R11.....Pic 3 ....10 / 10,2 / 1...damn robot keeps calling this 6 tickets ..."1,0 / 1,0,2 / 1" :rolleyes:
Hoosier R12.....Pic 3 ....10,2 / 1 / 4

The BigM R2.....Pic 3 ....8,1 / 9,6 / 4
The BigM R3.....Pic 4 ....9,6 / 4 / 3 / 2
The BigM R4.....Pic 3 ....4 / 3 / 2
The BigM R5.....Pic 3 ....3 / 2 / 3,6
The BigM R6.....Pic 3 ....2 / 3,6 / 9,5
The BigM R7.....Pic 4 ....3,6 / 9,5 / 9,4 / 1,9
The BigM R8.....Pic 3 ....9,5 / 9,4 / 1,9
The BigM R9.....Pic 3 ....9,4 / 1,9 / 6
The BigM R10....Pic 3 ....1,9 / 6 / 8
The BigM R11....Pic 3 ....6 / 8 / 6

Maywood R6......Pic 3 ....1 / 6,2 / 1
Maywood R9......Pic 4 ....2 / 1 / 1 / 2

Meadows R3......Pic 3 ....3 / 6 / 8,4
Meadows R4......Pic 4 ....6 / 8,4 / 3,5 / 7
Meadows R6......Pic 3 ....3,5 / 7 / 6,2
Meadows R9......Pic 3 ....4 / 4,5 / 3,1

Mohawk R1.......Pic 3 ....1 / 9,5 / 8
Mohawk R2.......Pic 3 ....9,5 / 8 / 6
Mohawk R3.......Pic 3 ....8 / 6 / 10,7
Mohawk R4.......Pic 3 ....6 / 10,7 / 8,5
Mohawk R5.......Pic 3 ....10,7 / 8,5 / 6,5
Mohawk R6.......Pic 3 ....8,5 / 6,5 / 5
Mohawk R7.......Pic 3 ....6,5 / 5 / 7,5
Mohawk R8.......Pic 3 ....5 / 7,5 / 5
Mohawk R9.......Pic 3 ....7,5 / 5 / 7,6

Chester R3......Pic 3 ....6,5 / 1,5 / 6
Chester R7......Pic 4 ....3 / 3,5 / 5 / 5
Chester R11.....Pic 3 ....7,5 / 7 / 7,4

Yonkers R2......Pic 3 ....6,2 / 6,3 / 1
Yonkers R3......Pic 4 ....6,3 / 1 / 2 / 2,1
Yonkers R4......Pic 3 ....1 / 2 / 2,1
Yonkers R5......Pic 4 ....2 / 2,1 / 5,1 / 1
Yonkers R8......Pic 3 ....1 / 1 / 4

[timtam]

I thought you hit the pick 3 at Harrahs in Philadelphia

The one starting in Race 11 The $2 payout was 97.00 :)

[Ray2000]

Oops, You're right, thanks timtam.

I ran the results with the changed set-up, going only 2 deep on any leg which kicked out #4 in R12.

3,2 / 4,5,3 / 5,4 as posted yesterday would be a hit.


I redid the results for yesterday and I think that's the only miss.
Ticket count is higher also....356 so +$49 on hit, +$18 on cost :)

I still need to shake out some of these errors.

[mrroyboy]

Some for Med

Race 7 No :8: Pan Luis Obisipo
Race 8 No :2: Holy Haliburt
Race 10 No :1: Lauderdale.

[EdZone]

Mohawk R1.......http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/10h_zpsebe74122.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/10h_zpsebe74122.jpg.html) Oceana

Mohawk R2.......http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/4h_zpsa26dd8f8.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/4h_zpsa26dd8f8.jpg.html) Beauty Princess

The BigM R7.....http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/5h_zpsf9335253.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/5h_zpsf9335253.jpg.html) Beautiful Lady

[Tall One]

Big M 3--Add :5:


Big M 4---Add :3: & :5:

[Tall One]

Soon as that 2 rolled up, it was gonna get shady at the end..

[Tall One]

Gonna add the :5: in the 5th..Go Steelers.

[coachv30]

Big M

Pick Four

8th race- Add :1:

9th race- Add :6: :10:

10th race- Add :4:

[Tall One]

Am I paranoid? Bongiorno looked over his left shoulder 2,3 times , and imo, well before the gelding went off stride..5 didn't profit, but, yeah...paranoia.


edit--And im not even that guy, but can I get a ruling here?

[Ray2000]

Tall One, I was watching Hockey didn't see it

Coach
Adding the 6 to Race 9 at BigM didn't help the Pic4 but catches the Pic 3 in R8-9-10

9-6-1 ......2$ pays $250.00

helps an otherwise disastrous night :(

[Tall One]

Hell, I'm past it regarding Bongiornio..another day tomorrow.

Nice hit regardless on the pic-3.

[Ray2000]

This is probably not going to work out.

The way I have the base tickets constructed will have a very low strike rate, without Add-ins .
And I'm guessing the interest will be in the top 2 or 3 tracks, which will then get overloaded.

Yesterday, no hits as posted, the races with Add-ins produced:

Track Race Pool $1 Ret $1 Cost Ticket
M 2 Pic 3 18 8,1 / 9,6,5 / 4,3,5
M 3 Pic 4 18 9,6,5 / 4,3,5 / 3,5 / 2
M 4 Pic 3 6 4,3,5 / 3,5 / 2
M 5 Pic 3 8 3,5 / 2 / 3,6,8,5
M 6 Pic 3 16 2 / 3,6,8,5 / 9,5,2,1
M 7 Pic 4 192 3,6,8,5 / 9,5,2,1 / 9,4,6,10 / 1,9,4
M 8 Pic 3 125 48 9,5,2,1 / 9,4,6,10 / 1,9,4
M 9 Pic 3 12 9,4,6,10 / 1,9,4 / 6
M 10 Pic 3 3 1,9,4 / 6 / 8

MOH 1 Pic 3 6 1,10 / 9,5,4 / 8
MOH 2 Pic 3 3 9,5,4 / 8 / 6
125 330

I'm back-testing the base ticket construction right now (Re-capping, last year)
So Far.... 7/1/14 to date

All tracks
Races 1$Tkts 1$Ret $W/L ROI Hits Strike
Pic 3 6194 21278 $24,850 $3,572 1.17 495 8.0%

Pic 4 1948 9913 $14,053 $4,140 1.42 74 3.8%


Just the tracks in this test run
Pic 3 5288 18270 $22,451 $4,181 1.23 421 8.0%

Pic 4 1154 5982 $10,369 $4,387 1.73 46 4.0%

Shows some promise but out-lier hits would be severely reduced if ticket was actually bought.
On the other hand, no compensation for scratches is included. (Or 3 of 4 changing to a Pot Hit :D )

Saturday, Apr 25
Balmoral R6.....Pic 3 ....5 / 8 / 7,4
Balmoral R9.....Pic 4 ....5 / 2 / 2 / 6,3

Cal Expo R2.....Pic 3 ....1,5 / 3,2 / 6,7
Cal Expo R4.....Pic 3 ....6,7 / 6,5 / 7,5
Cal Expo R5.....Pic 3 ....6,5 / 7,5 / 5
Cal Expo R6.....Pic 3 ....7,5 / 5 / 5
Cal Expo R7.....Pic 4 ....5 / 5 / 6,5 / 7,5
Cal Expo R8.....Pic 3 ....5 / 6,5 / 7,5

Freehold R2.....Pic 4 ....1 / 7,6 / 8,1 / 4
Freehold R3.....Pic 3 ....7,6 / 8,1 / 4
Freehold R6.....Pic 4 ....5,2 / 5 / 1 / 8,5
Freehold R7.....Pic 3 ....5 / 1 / 8,5
Freehold R11....Pic 3 ....1,5 / 6,1 / 4,1

Hoosier R2......Pic 3 ....5 / 3,4 / 2,4
Hoosier R3......Pic 4 ....3,4 / 2,4 / 5 / 5
Hoosier R4......Pic 3 ....2,4 / 5 / 5
Hoosier R5......Pic 3 ....5 / 5 / 5
Hoosier R9......Pic 3 ....8,1 / 4 / 10,6
Hoosier R11.....Pic 3 ....10,6 / 7,4 / 5
Hoosier R12.....Pic 3 ....7,4 / 5 / 8,4

The BigM R2.....Pic 3 ....4 / 2 / 6
The BigM R3.....Pic 4 ....2 / 6 / 7,3 / 7,4
The BigM R4.....Pic 3 ....6 / 7,3 / 7,4
The BigM R5.....Pic 3 ....7,3 / 7,4 / 4,6
The BigM R6.....Pic 3 ....7,4 / 4,6 / 6
The BigM R7.....Pic 4 ....4,6 / 6 / 1 / 3
The BigM R8.....Pic 3 ....6 / 1 / 3

Mohawk R1.......Pic 3 ....6,7 / 5 / 6
Mohawk R2.......Pic 3 ....5 / 6 / 1
Mohawk R3.......Pic 3 ....6 / 1 / 1
Mohawk R4.......Pic 3 ....1 / 1 / 5
Mohawk R5.......Pic 3 ....1 / 5 / 1,6
Mohawk R6.......Pic 3 ....5 / 1,6 / 7,5
Mohawk R7.......Pic 3 ....1,6 / 7,5 / 5
Mohawk R8.......Pic 3 ....7,5 / 5 / 4,6
Mohawk R9.......Pic 3 ....5 / 4,6 / 6,1

Pocono R3.......Pic 3 ....4 / 2 / 7,2
Pocono R7.......Pic 4 ....8,1 / 6,5 / 4 / 5,4

Yonkers R2......Pic 3 ....8,1 / 6,1 / 4

[coachv30]

why dont you just replace the scratch with the post time favorite?

[Ray2000]

That would require mining the charts to get the odds and the favorite.

There was a time when I saved the charts every day, (Still do for Canadian tracks) but that's a lot of work and the price to buy them is too high, so I just use a database of TM pplines and the TRC mutuels.

GL tonight with your picks...

[pandy]

This is probably not going to work out.

The way I have the base tickets constructed will have a very low strike rate, without Add-ins .
And I'm guessing the interest will be in the top 2 or 3 tracks, which will then get overloaded.

Yesterday, no hits as posted, the races with Add-ins produced:

Track Race Pool $1 Ret $1 Cost Ticket
M 2 Pic 3 18 8,1 / 9,6,5 / 4,3,5
M 3 Pic 4 18 9,6,5 / 4,3,5 / 3,5 / 2
M 4 Pic 3 6 4,3,5 / 3,5 / 2
M 5 Pic 3 8 3,5 / 2 / 3,6,8,5
M 6 Pic 3 16 2 / 3,6,8,5 / 9,5,2,1
M 7 Pic 4 192 3,6,8,5 / 9,5,2,1 / 9,4,6,10 / 1,9,4
M 8 Pic 3 125 48 9,5,2,1 / 9,4,6,10 / 1,9,4
M 9 Pic 3 12 9,4,6,10 / 1,9,4 / 6
M 10 Pic 3 3 1,9,4 / 6 / 8

MOH 1 Pic 3 6 1,10 / 9,5,4 / 8
MOH 2 Pic 3 3 9,5,4 / 8 / 6
125 330

I'm back-testing the base ticket construction right now (Re-capping, last year)
So Far.... 7/1/14 to date

All tracks
Races 1$Tkts 1$Ret $W/L ROI Hits Strike
Pic 3 6194 21278 $24,850 $3,572 1.17 495 8.0%

Pic 4 1948 9913 $14,053 $4,140 1.42 74 3.8%


Just the tracks in this test run
Pic 3 5288 18270 $22,451 $4,181 1.23 421 8.0%

Pic 4 1154 5982 $10,369 $4,387 1.73 46 4.0%

Shows some promise but out-lier hits would be severely reduced if ticket was actually bought.
On the other hand, no compensation for scratches is included. (Or 3 of 4 changing to a Pot Hit :D )

Saturday, Apr 25
Balmoral R6.....Pic 3 ....5 / 8 / 7,4
Balmoral R9.....Pic 4 ....5 / 2 / 2 / 6,3

Cal Expo R2.....Pic 3 ....1,5 / 3,2 / 6,7
Cal Expo R4.....Pic 3 ....6,7 / 6,5 / 7,5
Cal Expo R5.....Pic 3 ....6,5 / 7,5 / 5
Cal Expo R6.....Pic 3 ....7,5 / 5 / 5
Cal Expo R7.....Pic 4 ....5 / 5 / 6,5 / 7,5
Cal Expo R8.....Pic 3 ....5 / 6,5 / 7,5

Freehold R2.....Pic 4 ....1 / 7,6 / 8,1 / 4
Freehold R3.....Pic 3 ....7,6 / 8,1 / 4
Freehold R6.....Pic 4 ....5,2 / 5 / 1 / 8,5
Freehold R7.....Pic 3 ....5 / 1 / 8,5
Freehold R11....Pic 3 ....1,5 / 6,1 / 4,1

Hoosier R2......Pic 3 ....5 / 3,4 / 2,4
Hoosier R3......Pic 4 ....3,4 / 2,4 / 5 / 5
Hoosier R4......Pic 3 ....2,4 / 5 / 5
Hoosier R5......Pic 3 ....5 / 5 / 5
Hoosier R9......Pic 3 ....8,1 / 4 / 10,6
Hoosier R11.....Pic 3 ....10,6 / 7,4 / 5
Hoosier R12.....Pic 3 ....7,4 / 5 / 8,4

The BigM R2.....Pic 3 ....4 / 2 / 6
The BigM R3.....Pic 4 ....2 / 6 / 7,3 / 7,4
The BigM R4.....Pic 3 ....6 / 7,3 / 7,4
The BigM R5.....Pic 3 ....7,3 / 7,4 / 4,6
The BigM R6.....Pic 3 ....7,4 / 4,6 / 6
The BigM R7.....Pic 4 ....4,6 / 6 / 1 / 3
The BigM R8.....Pic 3 ....6 / 1 / 3

Mohawk R1.......Pic 3 ....6,7 / 5 / 6
Mohawk R2.......Pic 3 ....5 / 6 / 1
Mohawk R3.......Pic 3 ....6 / 1 / 1
Mohawk R4.......Pic 3 ....1 / 1 / 5
Mohawk R5.......Pic 3 ....1 / 5 / 1,6
Mohawk R6.......Pic 3 ....5 / 1,6 / 7,5
Mohawk R7.......Pic 3 ....1,6 / 7,5 / 5
Mohawk R8.......Pic 3 ....7,5 / 5 / 4,6
Mohawk R9.......Pic 3 ....5 / 4,6 / 6,1

Pocono R3.......Pic 3 ....4 / 2 / 7,2
Pocono R7.......Pic 4 ....8,1 / 6,5 / 4 / 5,4

Yonkers R2......Pic 3 ....8,1 / 6,1 / 4


Ray, your test was for 1 or 2 horses per race, right? Also, when you ran your test, did any track show a loss? I know that the Meadowlands late Pick 4 is very tough to hit using one or two horses per race.

[coachv30]

That would require mining the charts to get the odds and the favorite.

There was a time when I saved the charts every day, (Still do for Canadian tracks) but that's a lot of work and the price to buy them is too high, so I just use a database of TM pplines and the TRC mutuels.

GL tonight with your picks...

Gotcha

[Ray2000]

Ray, your test was for 1 or 2 horses per race, right? Also, when you ran your test, did any track show a loss? I know that the Meadowlands late Pick 4 is very tough to hit using one or two horses per race.
Bob
Yes, 2 horse max in any leg.
The breakdown by track is not very meaningful because the sample of races is too low.

In the data I have so far, The Big M had the biggest hit of all, so I excluded it giving ....

BigM without max hit
Races 1$Tkts 1$Ret $W/L ROI
Pic 3 229 930 $635 ($295) 0.68
Pic 4 63 415 $347 ($68) 0.84

In the table below, that BigM Pick 4 hit on Nov 14, 2014 ($9000)
is included to make me feel good. :)

Races 1$Tkts 1$Ret $W/L ROI
BMLP Pic 3 44 158 $170 $12 1.08
Pic 4 20 110 $0 ($110) 0.00

CALX Pic 3 156 647 $4,680 $4,033 7.23
Pic 4 32 258 $0 ($258) 0.00

FHLD Pic 3 191 543 $496 ($47) 0.91
Pic 4 136 551 $218 ($333) 0.40

HOP Pic 3 978 3456 $2,547 ($909) 0.74
Pic 4 13 62 $2,243 $2,181 36.17

M Pic 3 229 930 $1,868 $938 2.01
Pic 4 63 415 $4,830 $4,415 11.64

MAY Pic 3 54 179 $55 ($124) 0.31
Pic 4 51 276 $281 $5 1.02

MEA Pic 3 467 1532 $2,242 $710 1.46
Pic 4 119 589 $589 ($0) 1.00

MOH Pic 3 729 2898 $3,282 $384 1.13
Pic 4 0 0 $0 $0

MR Pic 3 796 2151 $2,084 ($68) 0.97
Pic 4 0 0 $0 $0

NFLD Pic 3 351 1046 $760 ($286) 0.73
Pic 4 116 480 $400 ($80) 0.83

PCD Pic 3 159 567 $459 ($108) 0.81
Pic 4 89 552 $253 ($299) 0.46

PHL Pic 3 193 599 $591 ($8) 0.99
Pic 4 98 530 $224 ($306) 0.42

PPK Pic 3 0 0 $0 $0
Pic 4 112 513 $46 ($467) 0.09

WDB Pic 3 463 1902 $1,871 ($31) 0.98
Pic 4 0 0 $0 $0

YR Pic 3 447 1554 $1,345 ($209) 0.87
Pic 4 297 1614 $1,285 ($329) 0.80


I'll do an update after I get a few more years in the data.

[pandy]

Thanks Ray.

[EdZone]

Mohawk
R3 http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/3h_zps0a91b7d9.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/3h_zps0a91b7d9.jpg.html) Examplar
R4 http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/7h_zps6ae6ebd1.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/7h_zps6ae6ebd1.jpg.html) Nine Lives Hangover
R5 http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/5h_zpsf9335253.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/5h_zpsf9335253.jpg.html) West Side Story
R7 http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/2h_zps7e38cdc5.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/2h_zps7e38cdc5.jpg.html) The Rev
R9 http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/8h_zpsfcf6c746.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/8h_zpsfcf6c746.jpg.html) Artistic Madison

Meadowlands
R7 http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/8h_zpsfcf6c746.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/8h_zpsfcf6c746.jpg.html) Ontario Success
R10 http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/5h_zpsf9335253.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/5h_zpsf9335253.jpg.html) V I P Bayama

[coachv30]

Big M

Race 2- :2: :8:

Race 3- :1:

Race 4- :3: :9:

Race 5- :8:

[coachv30]

Big M

Race 3- Add :5:

[Tall One]

Big M

5th---add :6:

6th.. add :10:

[coachv30]

Big M

5th :8:

6th :3: :8:

7th :8:

[coachv30]

Big M 8th

:2:

[Ray2000]

Yesterday, no hits as posted, the results for races with Add-ins are shown:
but what a difference a neck would make....Corey Callahan R6 miss*

Pool $1 Race
Track Race Type Cost Winner Ticket
M 2 Pic 3 27 2 4,2,8 / 2,1,5 / 6,3,9
M 3 Pic 4 180 3 2,1,5 / 6,3,9 / 7,3,8,6 / 7,4,10,3,8
M 4 Pic 3 60 6 6,3,9 / 7,3,8,6 / 7*,4,10,3,8
M 5 Pic 3 60 3 7,3,8,6 / 7*,4,10,3,8 / 4,6,8
M 6 Pic 3 30 12 7,4,10,3,8 / 4,6,8 / 6,2
M 7 Pic 4 12 6 4,6,8 / 6,2 / 1 / 3,5
M 8 Pic 3 4 5 6,2 / 1 / 3,5

MOH 1 Pic 3 4 3 6,7 / 5 / 6,3
MOH 2 Pic 3 4 4 5 / 6,3 / 1,7
MOH 3 Pic 3 8 6 6,3 / 1,7 / 1,5
MOH 4 Pic 3 4 5 1,7 / 1,5 / 5
MOH 5 Pic 3 6 2 1,5 / 5 / 1,6,2
MOH 6 Pic 3 6 9 5 / 1,6,2 / 7,5
MOH 7 Pic 3 12 2 1,6,2 / 7,5 / 5,8
MOH 8 Pic 3 8 1 7,5 / 5,8 / 4,6
MOH 9 Pic 3 8 5 5,8 / 4,6 / 6,1
$433


If a race has both a Pick 3 and a Pick 4, only Pick 3 is played in this test.
Pick 4 at Mohawk last night paid:
$2 Pick 4 5/2/9/2.......$75,933.70 :faint:

Sunday 4/26
Balmoral R4.....Pic 3 ....10 / 6,4 / 10,5

Cal Expo R2.....Pic 3 ....5 / 5 / 3,5..Maybe Mr Siegel can tell us why the 5 hole is winning at 23% :confused:
Cal Expo R4.....Pic 3 ....3,5 / 4,5 / 3
Cal Expo R5.....Pic 3 ....4,5 / 3 / 6,5
Cal Expo R6.....Pic 3 ....3 / 6,5 / 3,5
Cal Expo R7.....Pic 4 ....6,5 / 3,5 / 4,5 / 8,5
Cal Expo R8.....Pic 3 ....3,5 / 4,5 / 8,5

Pocono R3.......Pic 3 ....2,3 / 2 / 4
Pocono R7.......Pic 4 ....1,3 / 9 / 6,3 / 5,1

Chester R3......Pic 3 ....5,4 / 3 / 1,3
Chester R7......Pic 4 ....3 / 6,2 / 3 / 1
Chester R11.....Pic 3 ....2 / 3 / 7,5

BTW
Since I'm sending in money on Pick 3s and Pick 4s, I checked available rebates.

Ranked in order of best to worst for Pic3's
Pic4's similar but it depends on whether or not it's a USTA Strategic Wagering event.

Fraser
Harrahs Philly
Red Mile
Batavia Downs
Northlands(H)
Vernon Downs
Dover Downs
Harrington
Monticello
Saratoga (H)
Rideau Carleton
Yonkers
Buffalo
Freehold
Plainridge
Pocono
Mohawk
Woodbine (H)
Grand River
Flamboro
Georgian
Balmoral
Maywood
Running Aces
Pompano
Tioga Downs
Cal Expo
Charlottetown
Scioto
Meadowlands (H)
Delaware County Fair
Western Fair
Northfield 3%??????

Only rebate I can get with Churchill Tracks is essentially a :kiss: at TwinSpires.
Hoosier
Meadows
Miami

Why is Northfield so BAD!!!!!

[EdZone]

Chester R8 http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/7h_zps6ae6ebd1.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/7h_zps6ae6ebd1.jpg.html) Pretty Edgy

Balmoral
R4 http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/6h_zpsbd9a41c3.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/6h_zpsbd9a41c3.jpg.html) Bb Whistle

[EdZone]

Ray, we got a BIG Pick 3!

Sunday 4/26
Balmoral R4.....Pic 3 ....10 / 6,4 / 10,5

Balmoral
R4 http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/6h_zpsbd9a41c3.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/6h_zpsbd9a41c3.jpg.html) Bb Whistle

$1 Pick 3 R4-5-6...6 / 4 / 10 (3 of 3)...$1,213.25 http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/cigar_zpspz5ti72z.gif (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/cigar_zpspz5ti72z.gif.html) http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/cigar_zpspz5ti72z.gif (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/cigar_zpspz5ti72z.gif.html) http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/cigar_zpspz5ti72z.gif (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/cigar_zpspz5ti72z.gif.html)

[Ray2000]

Cool, good teamwork, Ed


I dozed off, but a nice wake up with my morning coffee.




also, Hit a couple of small ones at CALX :)


.

[Ray2000]

Yesterday,
The CALX $1 hits of $30.50 and $26.40 in races 4 and 5, were overshadowed by the $1,213.20 at Balmoral. :faint:
Total $1 ticket cost was 135

Monday, 4/27
Meadows R3......Pic 3 ....1 / 6 / 8,5
Meadows R4......Pic 4 ....6 / 8,5 / 4 / 5
Meadows R6......Pic 3 ....4 / 5 / 6,5
Meadows R10.....Pic 3 ....9,5 / 9 / 7,5

Mohawk R1.......Pic 3 ....6,8 / 8 / 4
Mohawk R2.......Pic 3 ....8 / 4 / 5
Mohawk R3.......Pic 3 ....4 / 5 / 9,7
Mohawk R4.......Pic 3 ....5 / 9,7 / 5,6
Mohawk R5.......Pic 3 ....9,7 / 5,6 / 6
Mohawk R6.......Pic 3 ....5,6 / 6 / 5,1
Mohawk R7.......Pic 3 ....6 / 5,1 / 6,1
Mohawk R8.......Pic 3 ....5,1 / 6,1 / 1
Mohawk R9.......Pic 3 ....6,1 / 1 / 6,7

Monticello R1...Pic 3 ....2 / 4 / 6
Monticello R2...Pic 3 ....4 / 6 / 4
Monticello R4...Pic 3 ....4 / 5 / 8,3
Monticello R5...Pic 3 ....5 / 8,3 / 7,4
Monticello R6...Pic 3 ....8,3 / 7,4 / 3,1
Monticello R7...Pic 3 ....7,4 / 3,1 / 1
Monticello R8...Pic 3 ....3,1 / 1 / 5

Northfield R6...Pic 3 ....7,1 / 5 / 4,1
Northfield R8...Pic 4 ....4,1 / 8,1 / 4,9 / 1,5
Northfield R9...Pic 3 ....8,1 / 4,9 / 1,5
Northfield R12..Pic 3 ....6,3 / 2 / 2,1

Yonkers R2......Pic 3 ....1 / 1 / 8,4
Yonkers R3......Pic 4 ....1 / 8,4 / 7,1 / 7,4
Yonkers R4......Pic 3 ....8,4 / 7,1 / 7,4
Yonkers R5......Pic 4 ....7,1 / 7,4 / 6,5 / 1
Yonkers R8......Pic 3 ....1 / 6,1 / 4

[EdZone]

Day Picks

Monticello R1...http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/1h_zps41fd60b9.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/1h_zps41fd60b9.jpg.html) Midnight Mass
Monticello R2...http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/2h_zps7e38cdc5.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/2h_zps7e38cdc5.jpg.html) Crazy Eyes

Meadows R4......http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/2h_zps7e38cdc5.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/2h_zps7e38cdc5.jpg.html) Sa Herbee
Meadows R6......http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/8h_zpsfcf6c746.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/8h_zpsfcf6c746.jpg.html) Snowson

[EdZone]

Night Picks

Yonkers R2......http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/4h_zpsa26dd8f8.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/4h_zpsa26dd8f8.jpg.html)Capela
Yonkers R3......http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/4h_zpsa26dd8f8.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/4h_zpsa26dd8f8.jpg.html) Greystone Cash
Yonkers R5......http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/4h_zpsa26dd8f8.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/4h_zpsa26dd8f8.jpg.html) Believeinthespirit
Yonkers R7......http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/7h_zps6ae6ebd1.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/7h_zps6ae6ebd1.jpg.html) Baby Remind Me
Yonkers R8......http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/4h_zpsa26dd8f8.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/4h_zpsa26dd8f8.jpg.html) Hilarious Halo

[Ray2000]

Yesterday, 3 little hits on 191 tkts
MR....R6...Pic 3.....$3.40

NFLD..R6...Pic 3.....$8.00

YR....R2...Pic 3.....$3.25 (leg 3 paid on scr 4)

Tuesday Apr 28
Last day in this test...."HOLD THE DOOR, ROY"

Hoosier R1......Pic 3 ....9,4 / 10,9 / 3,5
Hoosier R2......Pic 3 ....10,9 / 3,5 / 1
Hoosier R3......Pic 4 ....3,5 / 1 / 2,4 / 5
Hoosier R4......Pic 3 ....1 / 2,4 / 5
Hoosier R5......Pic 3 ....2,4 / 5 / 5
Hoosier R6......Pic 3 ....5 / 5 / 5
Hoosier R7......Pic 3 ....5 / 5 / 3
Hoosier R8......Pic 3 ....5 / 3 / 5
Hoosier R10.....Pic 3 ....5 / 4 / 4
Hoosier R11.....Pic 3 ....4 / 4 / 3

Meadows R3......Pic 3 ....5,4 / 7,5 / 10,3
Meadows R4......Pic 4 ....7,5 / 10,3 / 4 / 7,2
Meadows R6......Pic 3 ....4 / 7,2 / 2,3
Meadows R10.....Pic 3 ....2,3 / 1 / 1

Monticello R1...Pic 3 ....2,4 / 6,1 / 1
Monticello R2...Pic 3 ....6,1 / 1 / 1
Monticello R4...Pic 3 ....1 / 5 / 1,3
Monticello R5...Pic 3 ....5 / 1,3 / 4,1
Monticello R6...Pic 3 ....1,3 / 4,1 / 5
Monticello R7...Pic 3 ....4,1 / 5 / 3
Monticello R8...Pic 3 ....5 / 3 / 5

Northfield R6...Pic 3 ....2 / 6,5 / 2,5
Northfield R8...Pic 4 ....2,5 / 3 / 5 / 8
Northfield R9...Pic 3 ....3 / 5 / 8
Northfield R12..Pic 3 ....1 / 3 / 1

Pocono R3.......Pic 3 ....6 / 2 / 4
Pocono R7.......Pic 4 ....7 / 4 / 8,1 / 1

Yonkers R2......Pic 3 ....2,4 / 5,1 / 2,4
Yonkers R3......Pic 4 ....5,1 / 2,4 / 6,5 / 5,2
Yonkers R4......Pic 3 ....2,4 / 6,5 / 5,2
Yonkers R5......Pic 4 ....6,5 / 5,2 / 1 / 2
Yonkers R8......Pic 3 ....2 / 6,2 / 7

[EdZone]

Day Picks

Monticello R1...http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/6h_zpsbd9a41c3.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/6h_zpsbd9a41c3.jpg.html) American Tower
Monticello R8...http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/4h_zpsa26dd8f8.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/4h_zpsa26dd8f8.jpg.html) Paulimony
Monticello R10...http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/2h_zps7e38cdc5.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/2h_zps7e38cdc5.jpg.html) Kennanskingwilliam

Meadows R4......http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/6h_zpsbd9a41c3.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/6h_zpsbd9a41c3.jpg.html) Matter Hatter
Meadows R5......http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/5h_zpsf9335253.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/5h_zpsf9335253.jpg.html) Jessie's Song
Meadows R6......http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/2h_zps7e38cdc5.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/2h_zps7e38cdc5.jpg.html) Rebel Teen

[EdZone]

I forget Yonkers is Day Picks. Get use to 7:00 PM

Yonkers R8......http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/4h_zpsa26dd8f8.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/4h_zpsa26dd8f8.jpg.html) Outburst

[EdZone]

Night Picks

Northfield R11...http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/1h_zps41fd60b9.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/1h_zps41fd60b9.jpg.html) Hersman*

Hoosier R13.....http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/4h_zpsa26dd8f8.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/4h_zpsa26dd8f8.jpg.html) Big Harold

[EdZone]

Day Picks
Got a good day today http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/cigar_zpspz5ti72z.gif (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/cigar_zpspz5ti72z.gif.html)

Monticello R1...http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/6h_zpsbd9a41c3.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/6h_zpsbd9a41c3.jpg.html) American Tower Place Place Paid $7.30 $3.70
Monticello R8...http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/4h_zpsa26dd8f8.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/4h_zpsa26dd8f8.jpg.html) Paulimony SCR
Monticello R10...http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/2h_zps7e38cdc5.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/2h_zps7e38cdc5.jpg.html) Kennanskingwilliam Win Paid $11.50 $6.00 $3.10

Meadows R4......http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/6h_zpsbd9a41c3.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/6h_zpsbd9a41c3.jpg.html) Matter Hatter Win Paid $4.20 $3.80 $2.80
Meadows R5......http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/5h_zpsf9335253.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/5h_zpsf9335253.jpg.html) Jessie's Song Win Paid $8.10 $4.50 $3.50
Meadows R6......http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/2h_zps7e38cdc5.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/2h_zps7e38cdc5.jpg.html) Rebel Teen Win Paid $8.70 $5.70 $2.90

Yonkers R8......http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/4h_zpsa26dd8f8.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/4h_zpsa26dd8f8.jpg.html) Outburst Win Paid $5.70 $3.30 $4.40

[mrroyboy]

Ok door is open

[EdZone]

2 more

Pocono R4.......http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/2h_zps7e38cdc5.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/2h_zps7e38cdc5.jpg.html) Mattador D
Pocono R10......http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/5h_zpsf9335253.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/5h_zpsf9335253.jpg.html) Steady Warrior

[Ray2000]

Nice one ed, we finish on a Pick 4

Pokie-7-8-9-10
$1 Pick 4 7/4/1/5 $110.30

[EdZone]

Night Picks

Northfield R11...http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/1h_zps41fd60b9.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/1h_zps41fd60b9.jpg.html) Hersman*

Hoosier R13.....http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/4h_zpsa26dd8f8.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/4h_zpsa26dd8f8.jpg.html) Big Harold Place Paid $3.60 $2.90

Pocono R4.......http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/2h_zps7e38cdc5.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/2h_zps7e38cdc5.jpg.html) Mattador D Win Paid $3.60 $2.60 $2.10
Pocono R10......http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/5h_zpsf9335253.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/5h_zpsf9335253.jpg.html) Steady Warrior Win Paid $16.60 $9.80 $4.80

[EdZone]

Nice one ed, we finish on a Pick 4

Pokie-7-8-9-10
$1 Pick 4 7/4/1/5 $110.30


Yes.. Good!http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/cigar_zpspz5ti72z.gif (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/cigar_zpspz5ti72z.gif.html)

[coachv30]

NFLD

12th :3: :4:

13th :1: :2:

14th :2: :6:

[Ray2000]

Yesterday $1 hits
.....Meadows R3.....Pic 3 ....5,4 / 7,5 / 10,3......4-6-5.......$30.80 (Ed's 6)

.....Monticello R6...Pic 3 ....1,3 / 4,1 / 5..........3-4-5.........$6.20

.....Pocono R7.......Pic 4 ....7 / 4 / 8,1 / 1........7-4-1-5......$110.30 (Ed's 5)

.....Yonkers R2......Pic 3 ....2,4 / 5,1 / 2,4.......4-1,5-4......$17.40 (scr 5)

.....Yonkers R8......Pic 3 ....2 / 6,2 / 7.............4-2-7..........$17.60 (Ed's 4)

End of test run

I'll still post some Pic3 or 4's on a spot basis but
playing the "base ticket structure" with no add-ons, just isn't worth it.

Thanks to those who played along....