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upthecreek
04-19-2015, 07:45 AM
Does anybody have the info on whether the top 20 horses would be any different if they were still using the earnings instead of the points?
Just curious
THNX!

Lemon Drop Husker
04-19-2015, 08:15 AM
Does anybody have the info on whether the top 20 horses would be any different if they were still using the earnings instead of the points?
Just curious
THNX!

No stats, but the Swale, Champagne, and Spinaway winners were almost a guarantee to be in. That would be Daredevil, Ready for Rye, and Condo Commando that would be lining up in the gate this year (if healthy).

Also, Mine That Bird wouldn't have been able to run simply due to his win in the Woodbine Grey Stakes. MTB ran twice as a 3 year old before the Derby. Both times at Sunland Park, and he finished 4th in the Sunland Derby. Tiznow RJ finished 4th this year if that helps to make a comparison.

The change in points vs grades stakes earnings has completely changed the horse that enters the gate in the Kentucky Derby. At least half the field would be different.

BlueChip@DRF
04-19-2015, 08:36 AM
Graded Stakes Earnings (updated 4/19/15)


3 Carpe Diem $1,470,000
4 American Pharoah $1,410,000
6 Mubtaahij (IRE) $1,250,000
2 Dortmund $1,230,000
35 Texas Red $1,176,000
1 International Star $940,979
9 Upstart $807,680
5 Frosted $766,200
8 El Kabeir $710,792
22 Ocho Ocho Ocho $700,250
17 Maftool $630,595
21 Mr. Z $610,826
7 Materiality $595,200
12 Firing Line $530,000
10 Far Right $490,000
26 Conquest Typhoon $430,827
28 Daredevil $379,600
13 Dubai Sky $313,500
11 Itsaknockout $288,560
37 Leave the Light On $240,000
44 Lord Nelson $228,571
29 Divining Rod $225,000
14 Danzig Moon $217,500
16 Tencendur $214,500
24 Madefromlucky $200,000
18 One Lucky Dane $200,000
15 War Story $195,000
32 Bold Conquest $192,176
36 The Truth Or Else $180,167
33 Calculator $180,000
19 Ami's Flatter $176,000
50 Imperia $171,804
23 Bolo $168,000
20 Stanford $150,800
38 Far From Over $150,000
27 Keen Ice $136,520
40 Metaboss $130,450
25 Prospect Park $130,000
58 The Great War $125,510
34 Classy Class $115,000
30 Tiz Shea D $110,000
39 Pain and Misery $96,250
31 Frammento $92,800
41 Lucky Player $76,481
43 Tiznow R J $74,500
51 Cross the Line $72,000
61 Danny Boy $59,544
45 Rock Shandy $56,000
53 Bluegrass Singer $52,300
46 St. Joe Bay $50,500
42 Firespike $48,929
47 Toasting Master $45,000
60 Bench Warrant $42,000
52 Nasa $40,000
48 Task Force Glory $26,125
59 Private Prospect $25,500
65 Tough Customer $25,000
56 General Bellamy $25,000
57 Eagle $23,902
62 Juan and Bina $23,200
63 Another Lemon Drop $13,500
55 Hollywood Critic $13,338
54 Hashtag Bourbon $12,517
66 Comfort $12,500
67 Harmonic $12,000
64 Hero Ten All $9,250
68 Flashaway $8,999
49 Bayerd $1,000

upthecreek
04-19-2015, 08:47 AM
Thanks for the info! :ThmbUp:

Lemon Drop Husker
04-19-2015, 08:54 AM
BC bringing facts to the table.

By the way, Mine That Bird got in due to his win in the Grey Stakes, there were also other guaranteed entries with wins in certain races along with the old graded stakes earning method, do you know or recall what those were?