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sbcaris
04-17-2015, 08:29 PM
The most powerful sire line in the Derby is the RAN (Raise A Native) sire line. That line has accounted for 18 winners of the roses. Here are the runners possible in this years Derby with the RAN sire line:

American Pharaoh
Frammento
Madefromlucky
International Star
Materiality
Mubtaahij
Itsaknockout
War Story
One Lucky Dane
Ocho Ocho Ocho
Keen Ice
Bold Conquest

BlueChip@DRF
04-17-2015, 08:50 PM
Who were the three most recent Derby winners with the RAN sire line? Thanx.

SecretAgentMan
04-17-2015, 10:34 PM
Who were the three most recent Derby winners with the RAN sire line? Thanx.



1 RAN sire winner past 4 years......

f2tornado
04-17-2015, 10:48 PM
Who were the three most recent Derby winners with the RAN sire line? Thanx.

2012 I'll Have Another
2010 Super Saver
2009 Mine That Bird
2007 Street Sense
... also won five in row 2000-2004

sbcaris
04-18-2015, 10:06 AM
Furthermore, the impact value for this sire line thru history is around 1.88. (47% winners divided by only 25% of the starters equals a 1.88 iv.). This means that horses with the RAN sire line have won the roses 88% more often than statistical expectation. Statistically one would only expect 25% winners from 25% starters but instead we get 47% winners from 25% of the starters. RAN sire line horses are outperforming their opportunities. Turn the clock back to 2012 and you will see a tidbit of this angle: In that year, the winner, Ill Have another, the place finisher, Bodemeister, the show horse Dullahan and the fourth place finisher, Went the Day Well all carried that line and the superfecta of all RAN sire line horses paid a whopping 96 GRAND. That year there were only 6 RAN sire line horses in the field and 4 of the 6 comprised the superfecta.

One might ask isn't that a figure that is inflated because there are many horses in the Derby each year that carry the RAN sire line? The answer to this question is NO not at all. Thru history the percentage of starters is only around 25% whereas the percent of winners is 47%.. For example last year there were only 5 starters with the RAN sire line and the year before there were only 3 starters with the RAN sire line.