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horses4courses
03-21-2015, 10:05 PM
I can just hear them breaking in to a chorus of
"These are a few of my favorite things"

States with laws permitting gun licenses as valid voter I/D,
yet disallow student identification cards. Blatant discrimination.

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/03/17/3634295/tennessee-voting-rights-lawsuit/

http://d35brb9zkkbdsd.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/AP638054585014-638x414.jpg
badcompany
03-21-2015, 10:38 PM
There are more black people in that picture than in all of Lake Tahoe.
horses4courses
03-21-2015, 10:39 PM
We're going to hear a lot more from this lady between now and Nov 2016.
Whether you want to, or not. Naturally, she's a con centerfold again.

Something tells me she hasn't bankrolled this recent return
into the limelight herself. Catch my drift?

Mere bagatelle for the brothers Koch...... ;)

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/22/style/monica-lewinsky-is-back-but-this-time-its-on-her-terms.html?smid=tw-nytimes&_r=0


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAqqIcDWYAA6gYd.jpg
horses4courses
03-21-2015, 10:49 PM
There are more black people in that picture than in all of Lake Tahoe.

You really seem to know an awful lot about my community.
"Seem" being the operative word. :rolleyes:
horses4courses
03-21-2015, 10:57 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAoAKIhUIAA9CxE.jpg
JustRalph
03-22-2015, 12:50 AM
I can just hear them breaking in to a chorus of
"These are a few of my favorite things"

States with laws permitting gun licenses as valid voter I/D,
yet disallow student identification cards. Blatant discrimination.

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/03/17/3634295/tennessee-voting-rights-lawsuit/


Tell me what is required to get a student ID

Then tell me what is required for a gun license

Even your biased brain should be able to see the difference.
rastajenk
03-22-2015, 07:42 AM
"Repeal Voter ID"

Really? C'mon, man. Let's celebrate un-nuanced stupidity.
DJofSD
03-22-2015, 09:43 AM
Students are just lazy or stupid. If they really wanted to vote they'd register to do so under current rules.
johnhannibalsmith
03-22-2015, 10:35 AM
...

Even your biased brain should be able to see the difference.

Cut him some slack.

He's basing his political positions and reasoning for those opinions based on internet memes made by twenty-year-old poli sci majors trying to dupe eighteen-year-old non-poli sci majors.
Clocker
03-22-2015, 11:26 AM
States with laws permitting gun licenses as valid voter I/D,
yet disallow student identification cards. Blatant discrimination.



Firearm permits are government issued documents. Student IDs are not.

How many students at major universities are from out of state? Student ID does not prove residency.

That is just common sense. This is complete insanity:

They also say the state does not allow voters to present out-of-state ID cards, which are widely held by college students living in Tennessee, therefore discriminating against out-of-state students.

So, if I can prove that I don't live in a state, it is discrimination to not allow me to vote in that state's elections? How did these people get into college?
horses4courses
03-22-2015, 11:34 AM
Firearm permits are government issued documents. Student IDs are not.

How many students at major universities are from out of state? Student ID does not prove residency.

That is just common sense. This is complete insanity:



So, if I can prove that I don't live in a state, it is discrimination to not allow me to vote in that state's elections? How did these people get into college?

They are not a valid form of ID according to the IRS.
Driver's license, state issued ID cards, passport, military ID - period.

Step outside those boundaries, you are only doing it to suit yourselves.
That is discrimination.
Clocker
03-22-2015, 11:39 AM
They are not a valid form of ID according to the IRS.
Driver's license, state issued ID cards, passport, military ID - period.


Since when does the IRS have any jurisdiction over state elections?
DJofSD
03-22-2015, 11:41 AM
Who cares what the IRS says is or is not a valid document for ID.

The individual states determine those IDs not the IRS.

Read and understand the Constitution.
horses4courses
03-22-2015, 11:45 AM
Call it what you like.
It's discrimination.
woodtoo
03-22-2015, 11:51 AM
That avatar sure looks like Ben, :confused: but I am now leaning towards his evil twin

Willard. I am not a rat racist.
johnhannibalsmith
03-22-2015, 11:51 AM
Talk about pissing into a tornado and griping about the rain.
Clocker
03-22-2015, 11:54 AM
Call it what you like.
It's discrimination.


discrimination: the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex.

Every resident of that state is being subjected to the same voting requirements. How is that discrimination?

And the claim that it is discrimination to not allow a resident of one state to vote in a different state is sheer insanity.
Show Me the Wire
03-22-2015, 11:59 AM
Call it what you like.
It's discrimination.


Why because you say so? Student IDs are not proof of residency. If you have to prove residency to obtain a firearm permit it is defacto proof of residency. Denying a non-resident or someone who fails to prove residency a right reserved for residents is not discrimination.
Clocker
03-22-2015, 12:14 PM
Why because you say so?

Exactly. Liberals define discrimination as unequal outcomes. The fact that college students can't figure out how to get proper ID or how to vote absentee in their home state isn't their fault. Therefore it must be discrimination by the big bad conservatives.
Show Me the Wire
03-22-2015, 12:32 PM
Call it what you like.
It's discrimination.

Denying young people educational opprtunities at prestigiuos educational institutions due to subjective grading requirements or lack of wealth is true discrimination.
OntheRail
03-22-2015, 12:40 PM
Call it what you like.
It's discrimination.
I guess your acceptable definition of a voter ID is a Obama Phone Selfie.. Yez Dis Be Me. :lol:

You know if these... Fools spent as much time and effort as they do whining about voter ID's... to actually help there fellow fools whom they feel are confused by the process or being befuddled by the need. All those that wish to vote could flash that ID and do so.. all that still would not, could.. cause they'd have the required card. :rolleyes:
reckless
03-22-2015, 01:24 PM
Firearm permits are government issued documents. Student IDs are not.

How many students at major universities are from out of state? Student ID does not prove residency.

That is just common sense. This is complete insanity:

So, if I can prove that I don't live in a state, it is discrimination to not allow me to vote in that state's elections? How did these people get into college?

These 'students' often have left wing idiots (like some of the cartoon loving numbskulls here on PA) scribble letters of recommendation for them at college admissions offices nationwide.
horses4courses
03-22-2015, 01:26 PM
My apologies for missing all those interesting replies.
I was off cooking in the kitchen for a while.

French toast this morning. Yumm.
Or, is that Freedom toast these days???

Guess it depends what state you're in........
Show Me the Wire
03-22-2015, 01:45 PM
My apologies for missing all those interesting replies.
I was off cooking in the kitchen for a while.

French toast this morning. Yumm.
Or, is that Freedom toast these days???

Guess it depends what state you're in........

Lucid or not?
Clocker
03-22-2015, 02:09 PM
French toast this morning. Yumm.
Or, is that Freedom toast these days???

Guess it depends what state you're in........

A state of humiliation when France shows bigger gonads in standing up against Iran than this administration does.
woodtoo
03-22-2015, 02:28 PM
My apologies for missing all those interesting replies.
I was off cooking in the kitchen for a while.

French toast this morning. Yumm.
Or, is that Freedom toast these days???

Guess it depends what state you're in........
Smells like Ferguson toast. :D burnt
Saratoga_Mike
03-22-2015, 03:19 PM
Call it what you like.
It's discrimination.

What happened to minority voter participation rates in the 2012 presidential election in states that had instituted new voter ID laws? Don't patronize minorities. They're more than capable of compiling with simple voter ID rules. Why insult them and say (imply) otherwise? We disagree most of the time, but I'm surprised you would take such an attitude toward minorities.
HUSKER55
03-22-2015, 06:54 PM
real men and real women do not need to play word games. They get the voter id cards and act like grown ups instead of acting like a spoiled, candy assed whiners.
Clocker
03-22-2015, 07:01 PM
They get the voter id cards and act like grown ups instead of acting like a spoiled, candy assed whiners.

They can't vote with any ID in a Tennessee election because they are not legal residents of Tennessee. This is apparently too difficult a concept for those who are the future of our country. :rolleyes:
Hoofless_Wonder
03-22-2015, 08:44 PM
Student ID = younger person, going to parties and most likely a net-negative tax payer.
Firearms Permit = a state resident, law-abiding citizen, contributing to public safety.

I don't see a problem.
horses4courses
03-22-2015, 10:28 PM
Student ID = younger person, going to parties and most likely a net-negative tax payer.
Firearms Permit = a state resident, law-abiding citizen, contributing to public safety.

I don't see a problem.

:lol:

Says you and a few million other cons.

If anyone can't see discrimination there,
you're head is up where the sun don't shine. :eek:
Clocker
03-22-2015, 11:07 PM
If anyone can't see discrimination there,
you're head is up where the sun don't shine. :eek:

I guess that's me, because I can't see how not letting residents of other states vote in a Tennessee election is discrimination. Please enlighten us poor souls.
horses4courses
03-22-2015, 11:08 PM
I guess that's me, because I can't see how not letting residents of other states vote in a Tennessee election is discrimination. Please enlighten us poor souls.

What the previous poster said has nothing to do with being from another state.

Try to keep up.......
Clocker
03-22-2015, 11:20 PM
What the previous poster said has nothing to do with being from another state.

Try to keep up.......

What the poor little babies are whining about has to do with being from another state. I didn't realize that discussion was limited only to the last post in the thread. Sorry.
JustRalph
03-23-2015, 01:49 AM
When you lose the argument, scream racism, discrimination!
Clocker
03-23-2015, 03:52 AM
When you lose the argument, scream racism, discrimination!

Any time there is an unequal outcome, it is someone else's fault, usually because of racism, sexism, etc.
delayjf
03-23-2015, 09:49 AM
So if I go thru the steps to get a legal state id and a minority does not, its my fault and I'm a racist? Brilliant.
DJofSD
03-23-2015, 09:56 AM
Ya, it makes you wonder how they even dress themselves -- mommy, I need help.
RunForTheRoses
03-23-2015, 10:09 AM
So if I go thru the steps to get a legal state id and a minority does not, its my fault and I'm a racist? Brilliant.

You know it really seems absurd but it works for that side. The whole meme of Hands up Don't Shoot spread like wildfire even though it was false.
badcompany
03-23-2015, 10:54 AM
When you lose the argument, scream racism, discrimination!

It reminds of an episode of Seinfeld in which Jerry's Uncle Leo thinks everyone is an anti-Semite.

"If Leo bets a horse and it loses, Secretariat is an anti-Semite."
horses4courses
03-23-2015, 11:15 AM
The problem is that people go off on a tangent so easily.

For some reason, they brought race into the thread.
Wasn't me - I never mentioned it.

It's the gun licenses as valid I/D that I object too.
If you allow those, but not student I/D, that is discrimination, imo.
Race is not the issue here.

Some people can't handle the word discrimination without thinking race.
davew
03-23-2015, 11:24 AM
bbhttp://farm9.staticflickr.com/8332/8100173909_12d672290f_z.jpg
badcompany
03-23-2015, 11:28 AM
The problem is that people go off on a tangent so easily.

For some reason, they brought race into the thread.
Wasn't me - I never mentioned it.



No, you just posted a picture of black kids at a historically black college and then claimed discrimination.
Tom
03-23-2015, 08:57 PM
discrimination: the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex.

Every resident of that state is being subjected to the same voting requirements. How is that discrimination?

And the claim that it is discrimination to not allow a resident of one state to vote in a different state is sheer insanity.

Dems have a real problem following the constitution and laws.
that take some degree of intelligence. Not a lot, mind you, monkeys have done it.

Never seen a democrat do it. :lol: :lol: :lol: