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Ray2000
02-17-2015, 10:20 AM
am1947's post in a different thread made me update the "Aggressive Scale" used in one of my bots routines for modeling race positions.
It might be of interest to some computer cappers.

The numbers here are for minimum 400 drives, excluding 2nd tier starts and are from my 2014 base. (Not Official)

Call gain/loss is to the half pole i.e starting post 7 and sitting 3rd at the half would be a +4.

Driver Starts Sit1-2 Win% Average Call Gain/Loss
Gingras, Yannick 910 49% 28% 1.57
Palone, David 1704 52% 27% 1.46
Jamieson, Jody 1119 37% 19% 1.24
Gagnon, Guy 495 52% 25% 1.08
Morrill, James Jr 606 39% 29% 1.01
Napolitano, George Jr 1141 43% 23% 0.93
Macdonald, John 518 42% 15% 0.88
Lems, Chris 533 35% 17% 0.86
Warren, Todd 952 41% 20% 0.80
Sutton, Joshua 1687 41% 23% 0.80
Merriman, Aaron 3077 39% 19% 0.78
Wrenn, Ronnie Jr 1902 46% 25% 0.76
Brennan, George 1484 40% 19% 0.74
Byron, Aaron 793 37% 17% 0.73
Macdonald, Anthony 950 33% 12% 0.73
Hall, Tony 1687 32% 16% 0.72
Pierce, Ronald 1524 36% 17% 0.71
Cummings, Kevin 1127 43% 22% 0.67
Miller, Andy 402 32% 14% 0.66
Filion, Sylvain 1236 30% 13% 0.60
Morgan, Anthony 927 39% 15% 0.58
Ranger, Bruce 507 38% 22% 0.56
Waples, Randall 964 26% 14% 0.54
Henry, Trevor 1098 38% 26% 0.50
Hennessey, Walter 696 38% 19% 0.50
Smolin, Robert 683 30% 12% 0.50
Derue, Jordan 578 32% 17% 0.49
Plante, Jean 440 44% 20% 0.48
Plano, Luke 494 36% 20% 0.47
Wallis, Kevin 659 32% 11% 0.46
Campbell, John 456 25% 16% 0.45
Smith, Tyler 1280 31% 18% 0.45
Widger, Samuel 1083 32% 13% 0.43
Bartlett, Jason 1631 39% 22% 0.43
Harris, J Bradley 588 38% 10% 0.42
Davis, Billy Jr 1097 37% 12% 0.41
Kennedy, James 523 32% 19% 0.38
Aldrich, Bruce Jr 1713 36% 22% 0.38
Magee, Dave 602 31% 15% 0.38
Whittemore, D 508 28% 15% 0.37
Tetrick, Tim 938 28% 22% 0.36
Mcnair, Douglas 958 32% 15% 0.35
Maier, Tim 498 34% 19% 0.35
Cummings, John Jr 515 31% 13% 0.34
Wrenn, Peter 1214 30% 15% 0.32
Grismore, Greg 993 27% 13% 0.29
Kakaley, Matthew 1517 27% 15% 0.29
Seekman, Travis 666 29% 14% 0.28
Drury, Jonathan 872 30% 12% 0.28
Taggart, Jim Jr 699 31% 15% 0.28
Allard, Simon 1042 29% 16% 0.27
Sears, Brian 1315 32% 23% 0.26
Callahan, Corey 1550 31% 20% 0.26
Plano, Rick 827 33% 15% 0.25
Gale, Truman 687 25% 12% 0.24
Macomber, Richard Jr 868 28% 13% 0.24
Siegelman, Austin 938 30% 15% 0.24
Noble, Dan 882 31% 16% 0.23
Beckwith, Mark 540 36% 12% 0.22
Miller, David 915 25% 16% 0.21
Richardson, Bruce M 632 33% 15% 0.20
Ryan, Jason 668 33% 17% 0.20
Wiseman, Steve 620 29% 16% 0.19
Napolitano, Anthony 680 30% 13% 0.19
Macdonald, Mark 811 27% 12% 0.19
Davis, Allan 1503 33% 16% 0.18
Dobson, Billy 1157 30% 22% 0.18
De Long, John 931 25% 17% 0.18
Anderson, Ryan 686 27% 11% 0.17
Devaux, James 1641 31% 14% 0.16
Macdonell, Paul 731 24% 14% 0.16
Teague, Montrell 716 31% 15% 0.15
Stalbaum, Larry 1253 26% 9% 0.14
Marohn, James Jr 972 28% 19% 0.13
Hiteman, Dale 852 23% 11% 0.12
Christoforou, Chris 1115 21% 16% 0.12
Steward, Nicholas 681 33% 16% 0.11
Wilder, W 1800 25% 16% 0.10
Baillargeon, Mario 659 22% 12% 0.09
Page, Chris 1209 27% 17% 0.09
Beback, Ron Jr 979 28% 13% 0.07
Dennis, George 1542 27% 12% 0.07
Saftic, Michael 824 21% 11% 0.03
Merton, Michael 531 23% 14% 0.03
Abbatiello, Eric 772 30% 18% 0.02
Flanigen, Jack 833 27% 15% 0.02
Marshall, Jim III 718 26% 15% 0.01
Paquet, Fern Jr 559 27% 14% 0.00
Fisher, Ray Jr 832 25% 13% 0.00
Roberts, Jonathan 861 27% 12% (0.00)
Zeron, Richard 492 21% 13% (0.01)
Leonard, Casey 1278 25% 21% (0.01)
Mccarthy, Andrew 983 20% 12% (0.02)
Zeron, Scott 1036 23% 14% (0.02)
Pantaleano, James 842 25% 11% (0.02)
Gray, Shawn T 700 33% 16% (0.03)
Mcneight, David III 991 25% 12% (0.03)
Wolfenden, Ross 1409 24% 16% (0.03)
Shetler, Andy 733 23% 12% (0.03)
Tharps, Randy 810 25% 13% (0.04)
Miller, Brett 1261 24% 16% (0.05)
Ginsburg, Vincent 570 24% 14% (0.05)
Coppola, Frank Jr 619 25% 13% (0.05)
Wilfong, Kyle 970 26% 12% (0.05)
Holland, Brent 508 21% 10% (0.06)
Tetrick, Trace 1688 26% 16% (0.07)
Dibenedetto, Kyle 646 22% 7% (0.07)
Pavia, Joseph Jr 472 22% 11% (0.09)
Shepherd, Robert H 1033 25% 19% (0.09)
Smith, Jeremy 682 22% 10% (0.10)
Stratton, Jordan 1329 24% 10% (0.10)
Goodell, Eric 904 21% 11% (0.10)
Monti, Drew 935 24% 14% (0.10)
Dube, Daniel 1284 23% 13% (0.11)
Bouchard, Stephane 994 25% 14% (0.13)
Simons, Mike 959 21% 13% (0.14)
Mcclure, Bob 740 24% 19% (0.15)
Carpenter, Brian 605 23% 11% (0.15)
Mcdonough, Shawn 1000 22% 11% (0.16)
Young, Scott R 427 23% 13% (0.16)
Carroll, Alfred G 731 31% 22% (0.16)
Steacy, Clarke 428 21% 12% (0.17)
Ledford, Eric 1118 25% 11% (0.17)
Brittingham, Bret 580 24% 15% (0.17)
Wengerd, J D 718 29% 11% (0.19)
Stahl, Ryan 947 25% 10% (0.20)
Hensley, Ed 706 25% 19% (0.20)
Kauffman, Kayne 817 25% 10% (0.20)
Meittinis, Jim 559 22% 11% (0.20)
Coulter, Scott 1126 28% 15% (0.21)
Miller, Lewayne 786 20% 15% (0.22)
Carlson, Eric 1324 19% 12% (0.22)
Long, Chris 415 21% 11% (0.23)
Hudon, Phillip 1365 23% 11% (0.23)
Mackenzie, Paul G 623 24% 9% (0.23)
Rawlings, Dan 1411 19% 10% (0.24)
Macdonald, James A 1527 22% 16% (0.25)
Plante, Roger Jr 440 24% 9% (0.25)
Brown, Gord 427 25% 15% (0.26)
Stillings, Richard 575 21% 8% (0.27)
Miller, Marcus 863 18% 9% (0.27)
Buter, Tyler 950 18% 12% (0.29)
Mcneight, Jim 991 21% 12% (0.29)
Bongiorno, Joseph 842 20% 11% (0.29)
Kirby, Victor 1180 25% 15% (0.31)
Morand, Jim 768 21% 12% (0.35)
Cross, Brian 429 24% 10% (0.35)
Yoder, Wilbur 935 17% 9% (0.35)
Barker, Shawn II 406 17% 12% (0.36)
Lachance, Patrick 468 21% 14% (0.36)
Kash, Keith Jr 1143 24% 11% (0.39)
Condren, Stephen 415 16% 11% (0.40)
Lake, David 757 24% 9% (0.40)
Svendsen, Lemoyne 480 16% 12% (0.41)
Smith, Steve 807 19% 12% (0.42)
Thompson, Jason 738 20% 11% (0.44)
Randall, Jay 423 15% 11% (0.50)
Brewer, Jason 538 21% 13% (0.51)
Sugg, Kurt 1194 22% 11% (0.52)
Hanners, Brad 631 24% 14% (0.53)
Charlino, Dan 584 14% 7% (0.55)
Merriman, Jason 1159 19% 9% (0.55)
Irvine, Wyatt 780 19% 8% (0.57)
Magee, Dean 810 15% 9% (0.63)
Zendt, Brian 1341 17% 10% (0.64)
Curtin, Pat 575 13% 8% (0.64)
Jackson, Thomas 421 15% 4% (0.66)
House, Lorne 492 24% 11% (0.67)
Ater, Kyle 639 15% 11% (0.68)
Leonard, Ross 613 15% 10% (0.95)
Miller, Robin 1075 14% 11% (0.97)
Huckabone, Claude III 491 9% 11% (1.22)

am1947
02-17-2015, 11:03 AM
R

Is this track specific ?
or a combination ?
suspect the latter

A

Lose The Juice
02-17-2015, 11:08 AM
Something tells me these numbers are more a function of odds and the talents of the actual horses involved. Guy on top isn't driving a bunch of longshots for ofer trainers, and the peeps down at the bottom aren't driving Burke horses at 4-5.

badcompany
02-17-2015, 11:09 AM
Nice work Ray.

You might want to break it down by track type, as improving pp at the start is easier on a 5/8 and mile, than on a half mile.

If you notice, most of the top guys race on the first two types. Jason Bartlett is an aggressive driver but he's pretty far down the list primarily because of the type of track where he drives.

Ray2000
02-17-2015, 12:44 PM
Yes, these drives include starts at different tracks for each driver.

badcompany ...good point to break it down by track size, I'll check it and see what differences appear.
if I go with specific tracks then I'd have to go back another year to get a sufficient number of drives.

pandy
02-17-2015, 07:03 PM
Palone and Gingras, top two, are the two regular drivers for Burke barn.

Ray2000
02-17-2015, 07:42 PM
Yes, and as Lose_The_Juice mentioned you can't separate the horse from the driver in these numbers. Top trainers like Burke will want the top drivers up when the horse is sharp and ready to 'Go'.

My purpose here is to have some kind of numerical scale for "horse and driver" to determine Leaver, Closer or Stalker in any particular race. Driver rank would be just one part of the formula.

Lose The Juice
02-17-2015, 10:33 PM
I think this combination of metrics will also put you into a chalk loop. Why not do this sort of thing with trainers?

Ray2000
02-18-2015, 05:51 AM
I think this combination of metrics will also put you into a chalk loop. Why not do this sort of thing with trainers?
Chalky yes, but what I've been working on for 40 years :) is finding the popper who doesn't quite figure to be a contender but somehow finishes 2nd or 3rd and makes the exotic numbers light up. Often, it's a trip horse that was close enough at the half to hang on even if losing ground in the stretch.

Example, Northfield R8 last night.

'Shoulda woulda coulda' used Bonners Creek in my exacta based on projected 1, maybe 2 leavers, slow pace race. As it turned out when Wrenn's horse (2nd fave) made a break most of the others were out of it.

As for using the trainer as a factor I think the "Send'm down the road" order occurs but mostly it's the driver's call. IMO the reason the 5 and 6 holes are the best draws is the driver has the best view of the field, and an advantage on whether or not to try for the early lead.

Stillriledup
02-18-2015, 06:21 AM
The shorter the win price in harness racing, the more likely it is that the driver will be either leaving the gate or brushing to the front very soon....so, to give someone credit for leaving the gate with a 2-5 shot isn't fair because even the most passive driver would leave the gate, they all would...i love the idea of the advanced stats, but because of the nature of the game where heavy favorites are almost always driven aggressively, its hard to determine if the driver should get credit, or the situation dictated his strategy.

Maybe if you eliminate all horses that are under 3-1 odds you would get a more true picture?

Ray2000
02-18-2015, 07:07 AM
...
Maybe if you eliminate all horses that are under 3-1 odds you would get a more true picture?
Not much change in rankings for drives on horses going off 3/1 or higher.
Jody moves up to the top when sorted on my Gain/Loss, post to half pole in calls.
I did not compared rankings (vs all starts in the OP) when sorted on Win% or Sitting1-2 at half percents.

Most significant change was Bruce Ranger dropping to -.05 from +.56


Driver Starts Sit1-2 Win% Average Call Gain/Loss
Jamieson, Jody 742 31% 11% 1.28
Gingras, Yannick 498 33% 12% 1.15
Palone, David 721 34% 11% 0.95
Gagnon, Guy 264 36% 6% 0.69
Morrill, James Jr 309 21% 13% 0.66
Macdonald, Anthony 781 28% 7% 0.64
Sutton, Joshua 1112 31% 13% 0.60
Cummings, Kevin 741 31% 12% 0.58
Merriman, Aaron 2091 28% 9% 0.55
Hall, Tony 1301 25% 10% 0.50
Macdonald, John 376 34% 9% 0.50
Byron, Aaron 576 29% 9% 0.48
Plante, Jean 281 33% 11% 0.46
Derue, Jordan 408 23% 7% 0.45
Wrenn, Ronnie Jr 1022 28% 9% 0.44
Brennan, George 905 24% 9% 0.43
Lems, Chris 375 25% 9% 0.42
Pierce, Ronald 1005 24% 8% 0.41
Smolin, Robert 555 28% 7% 0.40
Warren, Todd 621 28% 8% 0.38
Napolitano, George Jr 671 24% 10% 0.38
Morgan, Anthony 703 28% 8% 0.38
Harris, J Bradley 515 33% 5% 0.35
Waples, Randall 725 21% 9% 0.34
Campbell, John 343 20% 8% 0.32
Widger, Samuel 871 28% 8% 0.27
Filion, Sylvain 963 23% 7% 0.25
Miller, Andy 307 23% 7% 0.25
Whittemore, D 395 24% 11% 0.21
Kennedy, James 378 25% 9% 0.20
Cummings, John Jr 416 23% 6% 0.20
Henry, Trevor 586 23% 10% 0.19
Davis, Billy Jr 844 28% 7% 0.18
Hennessey, Walter 495 28% 10% 0.16
Grismore, Greg 835 22% 8% 0.15
Wallis, Kevin 527 22% 5% 0.15
Mcnair, Douglas 732 26% 8% 0.15
Plano, Luke 295 26% 9% 0.14
Smith, Tyler 922 23% 10% 0.13
Richardson, Bruce M 516 28% 12% 0.11
Taggart, Jim Jr 555 21% 8% 0.10
Gale, Truman 567 20% 8% 0.07
Bartlett, Jason 1060 23% 9% 0.06
Siegelman, Austin 722 20% 8% 0.05
Allard, Simon 730 20% 8% 0.03
Maier, Tim 299 25% 10% 0.03
Wrenn, Peter 930 24% 9% 0.03
Drury, Jonathan 725 24% 8% 0.01
Ryan, Jason 485 23% 10% 0.01
Beckwith, Mark 444 28% 6% 0.01
Noble, Dan 658 23% 9% 0.00
Kakaley, Matthew 1145 16% 8% (0.01)
Stalbaum, Larry 1079 20% 5% (0.02)
Macomber, Richard Jr 651 22% 8% (0.02)
Beback, Ron Jr 737 18% 7% (0.02)
Wilder, W 1343 20% 9% (0.02)
Christoforou, Chris 835 17% 8% (0.04)
Napolitano, Anthony 561 23% 8% (0.04)
De Long, John 662 17% 9% (0.04)
Devaux, James 1313 21% 7% (0.04)
Davis, Allan 1166 23% 8% (0.05)
Sears, Brian 731 15% 9% (0.05)
Ranger, Bruce 319 24% 11% (0.05)
Aldrich, Bruce Jr 1075 20% 9% (0.05)
Wiseman, Steve 452 23% 10% (0.06)
Mcneight, David III 816 18% 6% (0.06)
Seekman, Travis 530 20% 7% (0.07)
Saftic, Michael 718 17% 7% (0.07)
Steward, Nicholas 523 25% 9% (0.08)
Macdonald, Mark 660 19% 8% (0.08)
Anderson, Ryan 563 19% 6% (0.08)
Plano, Rick 603 25% 8% (0.09)
Ginsburg, Vincent 467 17% 8% (0.09)
Hiteman, Dale 687 18% 5% (0.09)
Flanigen, Jack 658 17% 9% (0.09)
Macdonell, Paul 605 17% 8% (0.12)
Dobson, Billy 709 15% 11% (0.12)
Baillargeon, Mario 553 18% 7% (0.12)
Miller, David 673 16% 9% (0.12)
Tharps, Randy 690 22% 9% (0.13)
Smith, Jeremy 606 20% 8% (0.14)
Dibenedetto, Kyle 565 16% 4% (0.14)
Abbatiello, Eric 507 14% 7% (0.14)
Shepherd, Robert H 727 18% 10% (0.14)
Magee, Dave 425 21% 7% (0.14)
Marshall, Jim III 563 16% 7% (0.15)
Fisher, Ray Jr 649 15% 5% (0.15)
Shetler, Andy 604 19% 7% (0.16)
Merton, Michael 444 17% 9% (0.17)
Holland, Brent 470 16% 7% (0.17)
Pantaleano, James 734 21% 6% (0.18)
Mccarthy, Andrew 823 15% 7% (0.18)
Monti, Drew 746 17% 8% (0.18)
Roberts, Jonathan 714 20% 6% (0.18)
Teague, Montrell 568 20% 8% (0.21)
Callahan, Corey 1050 17% 8% (0.21)
Goodell, Eric 784 16% 6% (0.22)
Mcdonough, Shawn 816 14% 6% (0.22)
Coppola, Frank Jr 512 17% 8% (0.22)
Dennis, George 1260 18% 5% (0.23)
Paquet, Fern Jr 427 20% 8% (0.23)
Stratton, Jordan 1133 17% 6% (0.23)
Bouchard, Stephane 799 18% 7% (0.25)
Page, Chris 887 19% 8% (0.25)
Wilfong, Kyle 797 20% 7% (0.26)
Dube, Daniel 1035 13% 7% (0.26)
Coulter, Scott 799 20% 8% (0.26)
Mackenzie, Paul G 530 22% 6% (0.27)
Gray, Shawn T 560 23% 9% (0.28)
Steacy, Clarke 355 15% 7% (0.28)
Kauffman, Kayne 696 21% 7% (0.29)
Mcneight, Jim 834 14% 8% (0.29)
Mcclure, Bob 587 19% 12% (0.30)
Tetrick, Tim 596 14% 9% (0.30)
Pavia, Joseph Jr 384 16% 6% (0.30)
Marohn, James Jr 677 16% 9% (0.31)
Miller, Brett 1007 17% 9% (0.31)
Brown, Gord 306 23% 9% (0.32)
Carroll, Alfred G 473 21% 12% (0.32)
Ledford, Eric 965 21% 7% (0.32)
Zeron, Richard 386 13% 7% (0.33)
Wengerd, J D 635 23% 7% (0.33)
Rawlings, Dan 1257 16% 7% (0.35)
Hudon, Phillip 1180 19% 7% (0.35)
Carpenter, Brian 532 19% 6% (0.35)
Zeron, Scott 808 16% 8% (0.36)
Young, Scott R 341 16% 9% (0.36)
Leonard, Casey 809 16% 11% (0.36)
Plante, Roger Jr 383 17% 7% (0.37)
Bongiorno, Joseph 687 13% 5% (0.38)
Long, Chris 334 13% 5% (0.39)
Simons, Mike 786 14% 8% (0.40)
Carlson, Eric 1117 12% 7% (0.40)
Stahl, Ryan 767 17% 4% (0.40)
Wolfenden, Ross 999 12% 7% (0.41)
Barker, Shawn II 378 15% 9% (0.41)
Yoder, Wilbur 863 15% 6% (0.41)
Meittinis, Jim 460 15% 6% (0.42)
Stillings, Richard 503 17% 5% (0.43)
Macdonald, James A 1183 15% 10% (0.44)
Tetrick, Trace 1258 19% 8% (0.45)
Kash, Keith Jr 945 19% 7% (0.46)
Miller, Marcus 728 12% 4% (0.48)
Cross, Brian 379 19% 6% (0.49)
Lake, David 662 20% 5% (0.49)
Smith, Steve 665 12% 7% (0.49)
Buter, Tyler 800 11% 7% (0.50)
Thompson, Jason 636 17% 7% (0.50)
Miller, Lewayne 623 17% 8% (0.51)
Lachance, Patrick 353 10% 6% (0.52)
Hensley, Ed 497 19% 11% (0.57)
Brittingham, Bret 434 13% 7% (0.57)
Brewer, Jason 463 17% 8% (0.57)
Svendsen, Lemoyne 390 13% 7% (0.58)
Condren, Stephen 353 12% 6% (0.58)
Charlino, Dan 548 14% 6% (0.58)
Randall, Jay 364 10% 7% (0.59)
Kirby, Victor 912 15% 9% (0.63)
Morand, Jim 622 14% 5% (0.65)
Sugg, Kurt 1031 16% 6% (0.65)
Merriman, Jason 979 12% 5% (0.69)
Irvine, Wyatt 723 15% 5% (0.71)
Zendt, Brian 1152 14% 6% (0.74)
Curtin, Pat 508 10% 5% (0.75)
House, Lorne 440 19% 7% (0.75)
Ater, Kyle 545 12% 7% (0.75)
Magee, Dean 719 12% 6% (0.76)
Hanners, Brad 534 19% 8% (0.77)
Jackson, Thomas 391 12% 2% (0.78)
Miller, Robin 932 10% 5% (1.11)
Leonard, Ross 534 11% 7% (1.11)
Huckabone, Claude III 436 8% 8% (1.25)

badcompany
02-18-2015, 09:19 AM
One guy near the top who doesn't surprise me is Kevin Cummings. He's very good at getting horses out of the gate fast. Not surprisingly, he's the top driver on the Buf/Bat circuit.

Lose The Juice
02-18-2015, 02:01 PM
Again, JMO, but if you're looking for longshots, it would seem to me that tracking driver performance is counterproductive. To the extent that there's any meaningful "outsider" money in the pools at all these days, it would seem to be driven by who's driving who, since the noobs and dilettantes generally focus on this one aspect (see Scoop, The Inside) to the exclusion of most if not all other variables.

Some trainers, even relatively well-known ones, have an established history of winning at long odds with horses coming off bad races, or scratches, or oddball layoffs. To the extent that there's money to be made on longshots at all these days, it seems the possibilities would be greater there. Betting Jamieson and Palone leaves you betting a lot of short-priced horses.

Stillriledup
02-18-2015, 02:27 PM
Not much change in rankings for drives on horses going off 3/1 or higher.
Jody moves up to the top when sorted on my Gain/Loss, post to half pole in calls.
I did not compared rankings (vs all starts in the OP) when sorted on Win% or Sitting1-2 at half percents.

Most significant change was Bruce Ranger dropping to -.05 from +.56


Driver Starts Sit1-2 Win% Average Call Gain/Loss
Jamieson, Jody 742 31% 11% 1.28
Gingras, Yannick 498 33% 12% 1.15
Palone, David 721 34% 11% 0.95
Gagnon, Guy 264 36% 6% 0.69
Morrill, James Jr 309 21% 13% 0.66
Macdonald, Anthony 781 28% 7% 0.64
Sutton, Joshua 1112 31% 13% 0.60
Cummings, Kevin 741 31% 12% 0.58
Merriman, Aaron 2091 28% 9% 0.55
Hall, Tony 1301 25% 10% 0.50
Macdonald, John 376 34% 9% 0.50
Byron, Aaron 576 29% 9% 0.48
Plante, Jean 281 33% 11% 0.46
Derue, Jordan 408 23% 7% 0.45
Wrenn, Ronnie Jr 1022 28% 9% 0.44
Brennan, George 905 24% 9% 0.43
Lems, Chris 375 25% 9% 0.42
Pierce, Ronald 1005 24% 8% 0.41
Smolin, Robert 555 28% 7% 0.40
Warren, Todd 621 28% 8% 0.38
Napolitano, George Jr 671 24% 10% 0.38
Morgan, Anthony 703 28% 8% 0.38
Harris, J Bradley 515 33% 5% 0.35
Waples, Randall 725 21% 9% 0.34
Campbell, John 343 20% 8% 0.32
Widger, Samuel 871 28% 8% 0.27
Filion, Sylvain 963 23% 7% 0.25
Miller, Andy 307 23% 7% 0.25
Whittemore, D 395 24% 11% 0.21
Kennedy, James 378 25% 9% 0.20
Cummings, John Jr 416 23% 6% 0.20
Henry, Trevor 586 23% 10% 0.19
Davis, Billy Jr 844 28% 7% 0.18
Hennessey, Walter 495 28% 10% 0.16
Grismore, Greg 835 22% 8% 0.15
Wallis, Kevin 527 22% 5% 0.15
Mcnair, Douglas 732 26% 8% 0.15
Plano, Luke 295 26% 9% 0.14
Smith, Tyler 922 23% 10% 0.13
Richardson, Bruce M 516 28% 12% 0.11
Taggart, Jim Jr 555 21% 8% 0.10
Gale, Truman 567 20% 8% 0.07
Bartlett, Jason 1060 23% 9% 0.06
Siegelman, Austin 722 20% 8% 0.05
Allard, Simon 730 20% 8% 0.03
Maier, Tim 299 25% 10% 0.03
Wrenn, Peter 930 24% 9% 0.03
Drury, Jonathan 725 24% 8% 0.01
Ryan, Jason 485 23% 10% 0.01
Beckwith, Mark 444 28% 6% 0.01
Noble, Dan 658 23% 9% 0.00
Kakaley, Matthew 1145 16% 8% (0.01)
Stalbaum, Larry 1079 20% 5% (0.02)
Macomber, Richard Jr 651 22% 8% (0.02)
Beback, Ron Jr 737 18% 7% (0.02)
Wilder, W 1343 20% 9% (0.02)
Christoforou, Chris 835 17% 8% (0.04)
Napolitano, Anthony 561 23% 8% (0.04)
De Long, John 662 17% 9% (0.04)
Devaux, James 1313 21% 7% (0.04)
Davis, Allan 1166 23% 8% (0.05)
Sears, Brian 731 15% 9% (0.05)
Ranger, Bruce 319 24% 11% (0.05)
Aldrich, Bruce Jr 1075 20% 9% (0.05)
Wiseman, Steve 452 23% 10% (0.06)
Mcneight, David III 816 18% 6% (0.06)
Seekman, Travis 530 20% 7% (0.07)
Saftic, Michael 718 17% 7% (0.07)
Steward, Nicholas 523 25% 9% (0.08)
Macdonald, Mark 660 19% 8% (0.08)
Anderson, Ryan 563 19% 6% (0.08)
Plano, Rick 603 25% 8% (0.09)
Ginsburg, Vincent 467 17% 8% (0.09)
Hiteman, Dale 687 18% 5% (0.09)
Flanigen, Jack 658 17% 9% (0.09)
Macdonell, Paul 605 17% 8% (0.12)
Dobson, Billy 709 15% 11% (0.12)
Baillargeon, Mario 553 18% 7% (0.12)
Miller, David 673 16% 9% (0.12)
Tharps, Randy 690 22% 9% (0.13)
Smith, Jeremy 606 20% 8% (0.14)
Dibenedetto, Kyle 565 16% 4% (0.14)
Abbatiello, Eric 507 14% 7% (0.14)
Shepherd, Robert H 727 18% 10% (0.14)
Magee, Dave 425 21% 7% (0.14)
Marshall, Jim III 563 16% 7% (0.15)
Fisher, Ray Jr 649 15% 5% (0.15)
Shetler, Andy 604 19% 7% (0.16)
Merton, Michael 444 17% 9% (0.17)
Holland, Brent 470 16% 7% (0.17)
Pantaleano, James 734 21% 6% (0.18)
Mccarthy, Andrew 823 15% 7% (0.18)
Monti, Drew 746 17% 8% (0.18)
Roberts, Jonathan 714 20% 6% (0.18)
Teague, Montrell 568 20% 8% (0.21)
Callahan, Corey 1050 17% 8% (0.21)
Goodell, Eric 784 16% 6% (0.22)
Mcdonough, Shawn 816 14% 6% (0.22)
Coppola, Frank Jr 512 17% 8% (0.22)
Dennis, George 1260 18% 5% (0.23)
Paquet, Fern Jr 427 20% 8% (0.23)
Stratton, Jordan 1133 17% 6% (0.23)
Bouchard, Stephane 799 18% 7% (0.25)
Page, Chris 887 19% 8% (0.25)
Wilfong, Kyle 797 20% 7% (0.26)
Dube, Daniel 1035 13% 7% (0.26)
Coulter, Scott 799 20% 8% (0.26)
Mackenzie, Paul G 530 22% 6% (0.27)
Gray, Shawn T 560 23% 9% (0.28)
Steacy, Clarke 355 15% 7% (0.28)
Kauffman, Kayne 696 21% 7% (0.29)
Mcneight, Jim 834 14% 8% (0.29)
Mcclure, Bob 587 19% 12% (0.30)
Tetrick, Tim 596 14% 9% (0.30)
Pavia, Joseph Jr 384 16% 6% (0.30)
Marohn, James Jr 677 16% 9% (0.31)
Miller, Brett 1007 17% 9% (0.31)
Brown, Gord 306 23% 9% (0.32)
Carroll, Alfred G 473 21% 12% (0.32)
Ledford, Eric 965 21% 7% (0.32)
Zeron, Richard 386 13% 7% (0.33)
Wengerd, J D 635 23% 7% (0.33)
Rawlings, Dan 1257 16% 7% (0.35)
Hudon, Phillip 1180 19% 7% (0.35)
Carpenter, Brian 532 19% 6% (0.35)
Zeron, Scott 808 16% 8% (0.36)
Young, Scott R 341 16% 9% (0.36)
Leonard, Casey 809 16% 11% (0.36)
Plante, Roger Jr 383 17% 7% (0.37)
Bongiorno, Joseph 687 13% 5% (0.38)
Long, Chris 334 13% 5% (0.39)
Simons, Mike 786 14% 8% (0.40)
Carlson, Eric 1117 12% 7% (0.40)
Stahl, Ryan 767 17% 4% (0.40)
Wolfenden, Ross 999 12% 7% (0.41)
Barker, Shawn II 378 15% 9% (0.41)
Yoder, Wilbur 863 15% 6% (0.41)
Meittinis, Jim 460 15% 6% (0.42)
Stillings, Richard 503 17% 5% (0.43)
Macdonald, James A 1183 15% 10% (0.44)
Tetrick, Trace 1258 19% 8% (0.45)
Kash, Keith Jr 945 19% 7% (0.46)
Miller, Marcus 728 12% 4% (0.48)
Cross, Brian 379 19% 6% (0.49)
Lake, David 662 20% 5% (0.49)
Smith, Steve 665 12% 7% (0.49)
Buter, Tyler 800 11% 7% (0.50)
Thompson, Jason 636 17% 7% (0.50)
Miller, Lewayne 623 17% 8% (0.51)
Lachance, Patrick 353 10% 6% (0.52)
Hensley, Ed 497 19% 11% (0.57)
Brittingham, Bret 434 13% 7% (0.57)
Brewer, Jason 463 17% 8% (0.57)
Svendsen, Lemoyne 390 13% 7% (0.58)
Condren, Stephen 353 12% 6% (0.58)
Charlino, Dan 548 14% 6% (0.58)
Randall, Jay 364 10% 7% (0.59)
Kirby, Victor 912 15% 9% (0.63)
Morand, Jim 622 14% 5% (0.65)
Sugg, Kurt 1031 16% 6% (0.65)
Merriman, Jason 979 12% 5% (0.69)
Irvine, Wyatt 723 15% 5% (0.71)
Zendt, Brian 1152 14% 6% (0.74)
Curtin, Pat 508 10% 5% (0.75)
House, Lorne 440 19% 7% (0.75)
Ater, Kyle 545 12% 7% (0.75)
Magee, Dean 719 12% 6% (0.76)
Hanners, Brad 534 19% 8% (0.77)
Jackson, Thomas 391 12% 2% (0.78)
Miller, Robin 932 10% 5% (1.11)
Leonard, Ross 534 11% 7% (1.11)
Huckabone, Claude III 436 8% 8% (1.25)



Interesting.

You can play around with subsets and probably come to some good conclusions. Maybe try horses 15-1 or higher.....see which drivers have a tendency to leave the gate on bombs, knowing that info would be a gold mine.

LottaKash
02-18-2015, 02:54 PM
Betting Jamieson and Palone leaves you betting a lot of short-priced horses.


I ran across this timely article by Derrick Giwner @DRF, today....

http://www.drf.com/news/giwner-brand-name-drivers-not-always-best


It lends much support to what others have been saying about certain drivers in some very recent posts here at PA-Harness...

I especially like the thumbs up he gave to driver Daryl Bier....DB is one of my favorites....Not so much at DD, because I die of boredom from the lack of a changing dynamic there, but more so, because when he ventures away from that place, he always seems to be well meant, especially on horses that he both owns and trains... It is has been this way for a bunch of years with him, at that...

Lose The Juice
02-18-2015, 03:03 PM
Look beyond the driver stuff... this is 1975 thinking, somehow still alive 40 years later.

Drive for Burke at the Meads and Yonkers and Pocono, and many people will think you're an amazingly brilliant driver. Lose the Burke account, and guys like Scoop will say that you magically turned into an iron-hands autotoss, never mind your amazing stats for the top outfit just last year.