PAYOUTS PER RACE CONDITIONS

[PIC6SIX]

Does anyone on this board have a data base, listing or other knowledge which shows average win mutual payout according to race conditions i.e., distance, classification, sex, age, surface and so forth. A listing with average mutual in descending order would be great. Thanks much.

[Some_One]

If that info was of any value, do you think someone would give that up for free? Especially considering the high cost of the vast amount data that would entail.

[PIC6SIX]

Sounds like you are more an adversary than a helpful handicapping brother. Needless to say we all know turf, large fields, and cheap claimers are right up near the top with high average mutual. I was just looking for a more exact list. Seems like you are a big time winner at this game. I will not bother you for your secrets.

[arw629]

I have no data in front of me but my guess would be races at 6.5, 7, and 11+ furlongs would be the distances with the greatest win payoffs....I would think that open claimers, non graded stakes, and grade 3 stakes would be the conditions offering a higher avg 2 dollar mutual payoff......synthetic surfaces seem to yield higher payoffs as well

[Dave Schwartz]

P6,

I could generate such a list for specific conditions, but they would vary by track and - as with par times' class levels - there are thousands of them. Seriously.

[raybo]

I think that much of what the OP is asking, could be surmised from a listing of average win payouts at each track in North America. A little research onto the types of races that are normal/frequent at specific tracks would lend itself to answering most of his questions.

I have been after HANA for a while now, to add average win payouts, at their reported tracks, to their spreadsheet. Anyone with a database of North American tracks could query this easily. I am of the opinion that knowing the average win payouts at each track would be of tremendous value to the bettor striving for profitability, or increased profitability.