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JustRalph
02-04-2015, 06:45 PM
http://www.stripes.com/news/us/nbc-s-brian-williams-recants-iraq-story-after-soldiers-protest-1.327792

Combat Hero Williams

Clocker
02-04-2015, 06:51 PM
http://www.stripes.com/news/us/nbc-s-brian-williams-recants-iraq-story-after-soldiers-protest-1.327792

Combat Hero Williams

He was probably confusing that incident with the time he landed under sniper fire with Hillary in Bosnia.

horses4courses
02-04-2015, 07:04 PM
This could well mean an increase in ratings for NBC Nightly News.

Fox News viewers may consider jumping ship.
After all, they lap up lies on a daily basis.

ArlJim78
02-04-2015, 07:13 PM
his admission is also a lie because he calls it a mistake because he mis remembered. BS, it was no mistake.

ArlJim78
02-04-2015, 07:34 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yeQK65nbf0

JustRalph
02-04-2015, 08:15 PM
That's great! I shamelessly stole your video Jim, and tweeted it :lol:

Try this one

https://youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=qjA1TQXuKCE

Tom
02-04-2015, 09:36 PM
Fox News viewers may consider jumping ship.
After all, they lap up lies on a daily basis.

OK, what was one from Monday, one from Tuesday, and one from today?

horses4courses
02-04-2015, 10:04 PM
OK, what was one from Monday, one from Tuesday, and one from today?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8n6R_1CYAAbcsb.jpg:medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8n6K6ICUAAguiy.jpg:medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8dhSDzCUAAr3OS.jpg:medium

Tom
02-04-2015, 10:16 PM
The sorry thing is, I bet, YOU think that was a good reply.
You got nothing - you are the JV squad around here.
You are a joke! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

ArlJim78
02-04-2015, 10:21 PM
Commander McWilliams relates his tall tales of heroism to David Letterman starting at 2:45.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS3NAwZ4hGk

horses4courses
02-04-2015, 10:32 PM
The sorry thing is, I bet, YOU think that was a good reply.
You got nothing - you are the JV squad around here.
You are a joke! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yuck it up, doughboy
Ya think that I keep transcripts of Faux on a daily basis?
Mais non, mon ami - they lie as soon as you switch them on.

NJ Stinks
02-04-2015, 10:38 PM
http://www.stripes.com/news/us/nbc-s-brian-williams-recants-iraq-story-after-soldiers-protest-1.327792

Combat Hero Williams

I don't appreciate Brian's "confusion" with what happened anymore than anybody else here. But I will point out that Brian was about 4,000 miles closer to enemy fire than GWB ever got.

Kind of like John Kerry and the whole Swift Boat garbage. All I know is Kerry was in the line of fire and GWB was in Louisiana. Or Texas. :rolleyes:

rastajenk
02-05-2015, 07:23 AM
Where was Bush when he had a shoe thrown at him? It wasn't in the White House presser room.

Tom
02-05-2015, 07:42 AM
Ya think that I keep transcripts of Faux on a daily basis?

The only lies here are the one YOU keep telling.
Most here at least point things and challenge them.
You are not able to keep up here. Maybe we need a children's thread just for you.

Tom
02-05-2015, 07:43 AM
AF1 had to take special manuvers to land safely in the middle of a war zone on Thanksgiving.

reckless
02-05-2015, 07:58 AM
I don't appreciate Brian's "confusion" with what happened anymore than anybody else here. But I will point out that Brian was about 4,000 miles closer to enemy fire than GWB ever got.

Kind of like John Kerry and the whole Swift Boat garbage. All I know is Kerry was in the line of fire and GWB was in Louisiana. Or Texas. :rolleyes:

Stinks, you forgot to add ...

John Kerry appeared before Congress and lied about our soldiers raping women, pillaging and killing children. A small reminder of his unforgivable perjury: ... Jenn-jiss Kaan ...

Stinks, you forgot to add ...

G.W. Bush, that guy the lunatic fringe on the left loves to call stupid, graduated from both Yale and Harvard. Your dopey hero, John Kerry, wasn't even smart enough to get into either school. Simply put he was too stupid to be admitted. And, even though Kerry was the son of a well-connected multi-millionaire, Harvard and Yale said no way, we do have some standards.

(In all fairness, Kerry was indeed smart enough to earn a very generous D average at Boston College. Now, Boston College is a fine school, a very fine school. Even my idiot high school friend from The Bronx was accepted to BC -- after he was rejected by St. John's and Iona, of course.) :lol:

Stinks, you forgot to add ...

The Swift Boat patriots were first hand witnesses to John Kerry's cowardness and dereliction of duties. It's the lunatic dweebs in the media (and here on PA) that ignore that fact when defending their guy, their clown, their phony, their tax evader, their sissy wind surfer, their cad who preys on fat rich widows, John Forbes Kerry.

reckless
02-05-2015, 08:19 AM
Commander McWilliams relates his tall tales of heroism to David Letterman starting at 2:45.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS3NAwZ4hGk

ArlJim, thanks for the link.

I didn't watch this entire video. Watching this phony and liar for more than 5 minutes is enough for one lifetime.

WIlliams once told his naïve brain-dead NBC audience that he once interviewed Fidel Castro and that El Caballo, as a 'joke', gave him an exploding cigar. Yuch, yuch :rolleyes:

Is it any wonder why no one takes these clowns seriously?

FantasticDan
02-05-2015, 08:37 AM
G.W. Bush, that guy the lunatic fringe on the left loves to call stupid, graduated from both Yale and Harvard. Your dopey hero, John Kerry, wasn't even smart enough to get into either school. Simply put he was too stupid to be admitted. And, even though Kerry was the son of a well-connected multi-millionaire, Harvard and Yale said no way, we do have some standards.
Just so you know, Kerry was accepted and graduated from Yale. :D :bang:

reckless
02-05-2015, 08:43 AM
Just so you know, Kerry was accepted and graduated from Yale. :D :bang:

Thanks for bringing that up, really.

But John Kerry, was and is, still a dope.

ArlJim78
02-05-2015, 09:54 AM
funny summary of how Williams has told this tale over the years, and as time goes on he gets closer and closer to the action.
He even told Alec Baldwin in an interview that he briefly thought that he would die.

I take such delight in this because Williams is such a pompous arrogant ass, and as managing editor of NBC news he's in charge of getting the facts right over there.

“I guess I do say to myself and to others — ‘I’ve got this’ — and I don’t know where that unbridled confidence comes from,” Williams began, trying to describe where he gets his thirst for action and challenge.

“And I’ve done some ridiculously stupid things under that banner like being in a helicopter I had no business being in in Iraq with rounds coming into the airframe,” Williams said.

“Did you think you would die?” Baldwin asked.

“Briefly, sure,” Williams said. “There have been probably more than …” he began before trailing off.


http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/05/brian-williams-said-he-thought-he-was-going-to-die-during-supposed-helicopter-attack-audio/

mountainman
02-05-2015, 12:54 PM
his admission is also a lie because he calls it a mistake because he mis remembered. BS, it was no mistake.
So true. But at least he parsed his apology with an elegant word...he somehow 'conflated' the two incidents...

JustRalph
02-05-2015, 03:54 PM
Brian Williams lying is still trending number 2 on Twitter going into a second day.......ouch!

mountainman
02-05-2015, 04:11 PM
I don't think he's a cinch to survive this. The backlash from this type of lie could build and prove lethal.

reckless
02-05-2015, 04:25 PM
Many times over the years I have 'modestly' boasted about being smack-dab in the middle in that historic Battle of Gettysburg. And, I was there. And I told the story many times over the years. What? You don't believe me?

Well, dammit, I was there only ... it was a while after the actual conflict. But I was there to honor all those brave men who fought for all of us on that horrific day for which I am greatful.

Did you guys also know I was in the same plane with Hillary when they shot at us in Afghanistan?

Or when I was with Chelsea Clinton jogging toward the WTC when the first plane hit on 9-11?

I was also at Gitmo when the US soldier flushed a Koran down the toilet.

Please, please, pah-leese ... stop it! And to think these lying idiots are still looked up to en masse by left wing dweebs and lunatics.

Tom
02-05-2015, 11:24 PM
I was at the mall tonight, and the place was robbed by the Joker, and I was taken hostage, but I was able to use acid from my utility belt to .....oh, wait, that was Batman. :rolleyes:

FOX - endless hollow allegations of lies with not an ounce of proof, NBC, with a PROVEN LIAR in the anchor chair.

Yet zombie voters watch him every night, drinking his Kool Aid.

JustRalph
02-06-2015, 03:04 AM
Now the number one trending item on Twitter. Heading into a third day

The photoshops are starting to show up

JustRalph
02-06-2015, 03:07 AM
Some good stuff out there :lol:

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JustRalph
02-06-2015, 03:12 AM
Oldie

reckless
02-06-2015, 03:30 AM
All very funny stuff.

But I don't expect him to resign nor to get fired.

The networks such as NBC have proven these past 25 years not to be true news organizations.

Their credibility --err, lack of-- was exposed ages ago. Only left wing dweebs and those whose intellectual capacity is such that they don't know how to use the remote and change the channel.

snickster
02-06-2015, 06:00 AM
Yuck it up, doughboy
Ya think that I keep transcripts of Faux on a daily basis?
Mais non, mon ami - they lie as soon as you switch them on.

What specific lies have they told. We all can name hundreds of lies your leader obummer has told and his minions such as holder and Rice, etc. Oh I see, if they (Fox) state a fact about your buddies then you just say it is a lie to discredit them. That is the oldest Communist trick in the book. lol.

Tom
02-06-2015, 07:37 AM
Pretty sad when SNL's Weekend Update has more credibility than the Evening News.

GaryG
02-06-2015, 07:45 AM
At this point everything that he has ever said must be questioned. Tom Brokaw wants him fired. Kind of ironic when someone that pompous is caught lying.

reckless
02-06-2015, 07:49 AM
He probably won't get fired because NBC and his 'news hour' is No. 1 in the network TV ratings war. If it was 3 or 4, he'd be outta there for sure.

Lyin' Brian gets to stay only because he's the tallest midget in a room full of munchkins.

Tom
02-06-2015, 09:19 AM
Time to bring in Lester Holt.
Even before this, he is head and shoulders better. :ThmbUp:

so.cal.fan
02-06-2015, 12:16 PM
http://cdn.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/videos/2009/06/03/brian-williams-bows-to-obama-1/jcr:content/image.img.2000.jpg/1304976559277.cached.jpg


I was finished with this jackass when he bowed to Obama!

dartman51
02-06-2015, 12:23 PM
http://cdn.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/videos/2009/06/03/brian-williams-bows-to-obama-1/jcr:content/image.img.2000.jpg/1304976559277.cached.jpg


I was finished with this jackass when he bowed to Obama!


But......aren't you supposed to bow to a KING? :lol:

NJ Stinks
02-06-2015, 06:35 PM
Tom Brokaw wants him fired. Kind of ironic when someone that pompous is caught lying.

Not true. But that won't stop Murdoch and other conservative media from screaming through the streets about what an unidentified "source" said. :rolleyes:

link: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/tom-brokaw-brian-williams-reporting

Saratoga_Mike
02-06-2015, 07:17 PM
Not true. But that won't stop Murdoch and other conservative media from screaming through the streets about what an unidentified "source" said. :rolleyes:

link: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/tom-brokaw-brian-williams-reporting

I don't agree with Brokaw's politics, but I think he has integrity.

What's your favorite BW lie Stinks? I lean toward the rescue of the two puppies from the house fire. I suspect you prefer the lie about the floating body in the French Qtr after Katrina, or maybe the lie about witnessing a suicide in the Superdome? They're all good, I must admit.

Tom
02-06-2015, 11:22 PM
If they allowed him on the air today, they prove that they are not a real news outlet.

NO reliable news would allow a preoven liar on.

But this is so funny considering how all the libs keep alleging FOX lies and can never prove it, and here is lie after lie coming out of the top dog anchor.
And not a pne of them can admit it. Stinky even tries to deflect it by making more hollow allegations about FOX...

What a bunch of obvious losers! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

NJ Stinks
02-07-2015, 12:11 AM
But this is so funny considering how all the libs keep alleging FOX lies and can never prove it, and here is lie after lie coming out of the top dog anchor.
And not a pne of them can admit it. Stinky even tries to deflect it by making more hollow allegations about FOX...



Murdoch's NY Post today: The first 5 of 7 pages of the newspaper, including the whole front page, was all devoted to this story. Why? Could it be because Murdoch owns FOX News and if Williams' top-rated news show loses viewers, it may benefit Murdoch's TV stations?

Just another reason why nobody should be able to own TV stations and newspapers in the same city. But let's not talk about the Aussie purchasing public influence by dominating the media market in NYC, let's beat to death this sad if nothing else story about a news reader who has a tendency to BS in real life.

Clocker
02-07-2015, 12:24 AM
Murdoch's NY Post today: The first 5 of 7 pages of the newspaper, including the whole front page, was all devoted to this story. Why? Could it be because Murdoch owns FOX News and if Williams' top-rated news show loses viewers, it may benefit Murdoch's TV stations?


That says something about Murdoch. It says nothing about Williams. Or his credibility. Williams is or isn't a phony, regardless of competitive coverage of him.

ArlJim78
02-07-2015, 01:06 AM
He sure can spin a tale, this story changed so many times over the years.
Also it appears he completely made up several aspects of his Katrina coverage.

Let's all remember NBC's funniest attempt to sensationalize a story.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgm3_jzcNm4

Tom
02-07-2015, 10:38 AM
Originally Posted by NJ Stinks
Murdoch's NY Post today: The first 5 of 7 pages of the newspaper, including the whole front page, was all devoted to this story. Why? Could it be because Murdoch owns FOX News and if Williams' top-rated news show loses viewers, it may benefit Murdoch's TV stations?

Because when the White House publicity department (NBC) is found to have an habitual liar in the top news spot, who reports phony news, it is a big deal.

I understand you lefties, who live lives of lies, don't think so, but to some people, truth matters. You will never understand it, just eat your pablum and be quiet. I'm sure you get your opinion emailed to you soon. :bang:

The second of the Big Three national networks proven to have liars in the anchor chairs, cBS now NBC, and the story YOU see is FOX reports it.

Really, lame, Stinky.....really lame.

JustRalph
02-07-2015, 11:02 AM
Brian Williams is the managing editor or some title like that, at NBC news. That makes him the top dog and figurehead for the network news division. The fact that he still has a job is disgraceful.

Tom
02-07-2015, 11:08 AM
Just tweeted he will be riding California Chrome today.
5 lbs. over.

Saratoga_Mike
02-07-2015, 11:25 AM
Why is Stinks (and most Dems) defending BW? Easy.

Remember this? Hillary told a very similar lie a few years back. To criticize BW is to criticize Hillary.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/03/26/us-usa-politics-clinton-idUSN2540811420080326

For Stinks, a few things about the NY Post. I've read the paper since 1985, long, long before it was owned by RM. Its reporting and editorial positions haven't drifted an inch from 29 years ago, but keep shooting the messenger.

How about the New Orleans Advocate, owned by John Georges (ran as independent for gov 7 or 8 yrs ago and now states he's a Dem, a wealthy one)? Two days ago, they ran the story about BW's fake Katrina reporting. Is Fox behind that story?

Again, what's your favorite BW lie?

You know mine. "I instinctively tucked it in my coat. When I got outside, I saw two small eyes staring up at me, and I returned the 3-week-old and very scared puppy to its grateful owners," said Williams recounting his heroic actions to save a puppy from a house fire when he served as a volunteer firefighter.

I also enjoy the version where he saved two puppies.

"All I ever did as a volunteer fireman was once save two puppies. But I have an understanding--a link to those guys. Going to sleep with my boots, pants, jacket, and helmet next to the bed for so many years is still, to this day, the best training for the life I lead."

http://www.theneworleansadvocate.com/news/11526453-148/nbc-news-anchor-brian-williams

http://www.esquire.com/features/ESQ0705BWILLIAMS_104

Clocker
02-07-2015, 11:26 AM
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I was finished with this jackass when he bowed to Obama!

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GaryG
02-07-2015, 11:51 AM
He is merely bowing to his boss. Barry Hussein is the ex officio HMFIC of NBC News.

Saratoga_Mike
02-07-2015, 12:02 PM
Just tweeted he will be riding California Chrome today.
5 lbs. over.

He only has one mount?

Tom
02-07-2015, 12:03 PM
Bottom line is libs live lies.
All of them.

Williams repeatedly lied in his news stories, and all Stinky could come up with was the Post reported it.

That is scary, that people like this are allowed to vote.
It also help do explain how such a low-life street scum like Obama was elected.

JustRalph
02-07-2015, 04:03 PM
NBC has hired a Williams Replacement

Clocker
02-07-2015, 04:31 PM
Williams just announced he is taking a leave of absence.

Tom
02-07-2015, 05:35 PM
Just tweeted he will be infiltrating ISIS for an NBC Special.

mountainman
02-07-2015, 06:51 PM
I don't think he's a cinch to survive this. The backlash from this type of lie could build and prove lethal.

Even more convinced now..Brian Williams will lose his job over this and whatever else they dig up. First off, the whole 'stolen valor' thing is very toxic..something folks just WON'T tolerate these days. Secondly, the 'floating body' remark while covering Katrina tightens the noose even more. And finally, even as I type this, somebody is pouring over every word the guy ever uttered on camera, and nobody can survive that kind of scrutiny.

In addition, the network is clearly distancing itself from him. And once Americans smell blood, they are satisfied with nothing less than the offending party getting fired. I'm usually disgusted at how country LOVES to call for the other guy's job, but in this case it's probably justified. The mob always wins, and this time the mob is right.

JustRalph
02-07-2015, 07:00 PM
Katie Couric is shopping for a new boat

horses4courses
02-07-2015, 07:03 PM
Katie Couric is shopping for a new boat

Something open up on "The View"?

Tom
02-07-2015, 07:03 PM
Maybe he can get a job at FOX. :lol: :lol: :lol:

This is too good to let go.

horses4courses
02-07-2015, 07:07 PM
He's just the messenger....easily replaced.
The message will remain the same.

Run on back to your Fox now, boys........

horses4courses
02-07-2015, 07:10 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9P_dUwCIAIrPpL.jpg:medium

Tom
02-07-2015, 07:17 PM
What message is that? That dad bodies float by hotels in areas that did not flood? :lol:

Dan Rather, Brian Williams......you better believe we will go back to FOX.
That is the only place you get the truth, and now it is a proven fact! You should go to NJ - a guy there will cry in a beer with you! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Saratoga_Mike
02-07-2015, 09:24 PM
It now appears he may have lied about an experience in Israel and RPG fire.

Stinks - are you seeing a pattern? Or is this all a Fox News conspiracy?

horses4courses
02-07-2015, 09:39 PM
It now appears he may have lied about an experience in Israel and RPG fire.

Stinks - are you seeing a pattern? Or is this all a Fox News conspiracy?

This leads to two possibilities:

(1) Nobody was listening to those earlier lies, or the more likely

(2) It's a Fox News conspiracy.

ArlJim78
02-07-2015, 10:43 PM
When he comes back they're going to rename the show NBC Nightly Story Time with Brian Williams.

Tom
02-07-2015, 10:52 PM
Lester Holt.
They have a first class, REAL newsman who is a consumate professional - why bring back that SOS liar?

Oh, Lester is Black?
Maybe NBC hasn't hung up it's sheets yet?
"No Black Commentators?"

Lots of "dirty laundry" on the left's own network.

NJ Stinks
02-08-2015, 12:40 AM
Why is Stinks (and most Dems) defending BW? Easy.

Remember this? Hillary told a very similar lie a few years back. To criticize BW is to criticize Hillary.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/03/26/us-usa-politics-clinton-idUSN2540811420080326

For Stinks, a few things about the NY Post. I've read the paper since 1985, long, long before it was owned by RM. Its reporting and editorial positions haven't drifted an inch from 29 years ago, but keep shooting the messenger.

How about the New Orleans Advocate, owned by John Georges (ran as independent for gov 7 or 8 yrs ago and now states he's a Dem, a wealthy one)? Two days ago, they ran the story about BW's fake Katrina reporting. Is Fox behind that story?

Again, what's your favorite BW lie?



I hope you understand that Brian Williams is and never has been somebody I put up on pedestal for some inexplicable reason. The guy reads the news for crying out loud. He wasn't playing baseball on steroids; he didn't lie about weapons of mass destruction; he didn't just cost me my Super Bowl bet. In fact, the one thing I know I like about Brian is that he is a funny guy on talk shows.

My points were made here because I don't particularly like the way some people and businesses are joyfully trying to execute Williams for little more than exaggerating.

tucker6
02-08-2015, 08:05 AM
I hope you understand that Brian Williams is and never has been somebody I put up on pedestal for some inexplicable reason. The guy reads the news for crying out loud. He wasn't playing baseball on steroids; he didn't lie about weapons of mass destruction; he didn't just cost me my Super Bowl bet. In fact, the one thing I know I like about Brian is that he is a funny guy on talk shows.

My points were made here because I don't particularly like the way some people and businesses are joyfully trying to execute Williams for little more than exaggerating.
Exaggerating is embellishing a little. There are several occurrences by Williams that may have been fabricated out of whole cloth. Would you call these fabrications embellishments, or are they lies. If your grandson says that he scored a 100% on a test when he really didn't, is that exaggerating or lying?

Tom
02-08-2015, 12:01 PM
The guy reads the news for crying out loud. He wasn't playing baseball on steroids;

See, you guys constantly accuse FOX, but in this case, it is nothing.
And your analogy, saying cheating in a baseball game is somehow more serious than lying in the news????


My God, NJ.....you are one screwed up puppy.

horses4courses
02-08-2015, 12:25 PM
See, you guys constantly accuse FOX, but in this case, it is nothing.
And your analogy, saying cheating in a baseball game is somehow more serious than lying in the news????


My God, NJ.....you are one screwed up puppy.

Yes, we do constantly accuse Fox of manipulation.
They spread fear and loathing all the time.

JustRalph
02-08-2015, 12:59 PM
Yes, we do constantly accuse Fox of manipulation.
They spread fear and loathing all the time.


Give me some fear and loathing over outright servitude to the Democratic Party anytime. MSNBC is complicit in maintaining a permanent underclass and keeping minorities tied into nothing short of a sub-cultural morass.

Btw, try to separate the news and the opinion on Fox. They are two different things.

The axe is about to fall on MSNBC. They are down so low that less than 55k viewers are tuning in at some points.

Clocker
02-08-2015, 01:11 PM
Yes, we do constantly accuse Fox of manipulation.
They spread fear and loathing all the time.

Every complaint about bias on Fox I have ever seen posted here was about an opinion show, not about a news show. The opinion shows on Fox are openly and admittedly conservative. Anyone that can't tell the difference between news and opinion is a poster child for low information voters.

And if you want to see fear and loathing, tune in to Chris Matthews on MSNBC. He is the reigning champ. Or I should say ranting champ.

Tom
02-08-2015, 01:14 PM
Yes, we do constantly accuse Fox of manipulation.
They spread fear and loathing all the time.

You are watching their coverage of President Hussein Obama.

A. Pineda
02-08-2015, 01:37 PM
Tom, JustRalph and others:

The faux outrage is amusing. You guys are acting like children that just had their lunch money stolen. You're upset that a journalist, whom you never watch, that works for a station that you never watch, told lies that you never heard until just recently.

No need for your heads to explode as Williams surely will lose his job. He may pop up again somewhere else, though. Even Imus survived.

ArlJim78
02-08-2015, 01:43 PM
I love how lying is so easily accepted on the left. The media and government officials are in bed with each other and lie on a daily basis to push a narrative, and yet the liberals are completely cool with that.

JustRalph
02-08-2015, 01:44 PM
Tom, JustRalph and others:

The faux outrage is amusing. You guys are acting like children that just had their lunch money stolen. You're upset that a journalist, whom you never watch, that works for a station that you never watch, told lies that you never heard until just recently.

No need for your heads to explode as Williams surely will lose his job. He may pop up again somewhere else, though. Even Imus survived.

He's the Chief editor of a cabal of propagandist that have a huge influence over many. NBC has long been an unofficial mouthpiece for the left. There are no journalist left in mainstream news and media.

This is evidence of the realities of today. He's the biggest chief liar and getting what he deserves

A. Pineda
02-08-2015, 01:53 PM
You, sir, are also a victim of propaganda, but you're too flummoxed to see it.

horses4courses
02-08-2015, 03:08 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9VPbGaCcAIi_Yh.jpg:medium

Clocker
02-08-2015, 03:21 PM
It is a shame. Williams' lies will likely cost him his job, and Obama's lies about Iraq got him reelected.

TJDave
02-08-2015, 03:28 PM
It is a shame. Williams' lies will likely cost him his job

Journalists who lie should lose their jobs.

Clocker
02-08-2015, 03:35 PM
Journalists who lie should lose their jobs.

So should presidents.

JustRalph
02-08-2015, 03:38 PM
You, sir, are also a victim of propaganda, but you're too flummoxed to see it.

Flummoxed......yeah.....that's me

Clocker
02-08-2015, 03:44 PM
Flummoxed......yeah.....that's me

I think ObamaCare covers that, even if it is a preexisting condition.

TJDave
02-08-2015, 03:48 PM
So should presidents.

Presidents are voted in and out of office.

Clocker
02-08-2015, 03:59 PM
Presidents are voted in and out of office.

Wow, you learn something new every day around here. :p

Saratoga_Mike
02-08-2015, 04:53 PM
H4C - this matter has nothing to do with Fox News. You believe GWB and Cheney lied left and right pre-Iraq. That assertion has been made by many; perhaps it's true. It doesn't have anything to do with BW. Nothing. Why not admit that you're defending BW b/c his politics lean left? How about some honesty for a change?

I previously voted for BW's rescue of "a puppy" or "puppies" from a fire as my favorite lie. I now see the NY Post reporting that he previously said in an interview that he was robbed at gunpoint, 0.38 caliber, as a teen while selling Christmas trees. I like that one, too. Maybe it's true. Seriously, maybe it is. Before the Iraq disclosure, I wouldn't have questioned the story for even a second. And therein lies the problem. You can't be a lead anchor with no credibility.

You'll assert - it's the NY Post - Murdoch wrote the article. See, that's where you and Stinks go wrong. The Post is merely using quotes from other news organizations. Is the New Orleans Advocate, run a by a wealthy Dem, out to get BW? Was Esquire magazine out to get BW?

Don't you see a pattern of exaggerations and lies? Just assume BW is Chris Wallace. It will allow you to realize this is a serious matter.

Saratoga_Mike
02-08-2015, 05:00 PM
You, sir, are also a victim of propaganda, but you're too flummoxed to see it.

First, let me admit I personally don't like BW. It isn't his politics. I like Tom Brokaw, and I don't agree with his politics.

Second, where's the propaganda? Did you read the New Orleans Advocate story? Do you know who owns that paper? Did you read the Esquire interview? Was BW forced to lie about Iraq?

You're either one of three things: 1) poorly informed, 2) reflexively defensive of someone who you believe shares your own political views, or 3) very naïve. From the context of your posts, I'm voting for a little of 1 and 2.

FantasticDan
02-08-2015, 05:18 PM
Second, where's the propaganda?Pretty sure A. Pineda was speaking generally here, since this was a specific response to Ralph's, "He's the Chief editor of a cabal of propagandist that have a huge influence over many." line.

Of course Ralph's comment doesn't make any sense either. I've never even known Williams to give political opinions. He reports the news, and makes talk show appearances where he tries to be funny. Eh.

Oh, and he has a lovely daughter who plays Peter Pan and simulates graphic sex on HBO. :cool: :ThmbUp:

Saratoga_Mike
02-08-2015, 05:24 PM
Pretty sure A. Pineda was speaking generally here, since this was a specific response to Ralph's, "He's the Chief editor of a cabal of propagandist that have a huge influence over many." line.

Of course Ralph's comment doesn't make any sense either. I've never even known Williams to give political opinions. He reports the news, and makes talk show appearances where he tries to be funny. Eh.

Oh, and he has a lovely daughter who plays Peter Pan and simulates graphic sex on HBO. :cool: :ThmbUp:

Please listen to BW's interview about Katrina conducted by the college student. He's absolutely left of center, just as Chris Wallace is right of center. Like I said, I take no issue with his politics, but we can't have a news anchor (left or right-leaning) whose veracity is in question. Please read the various sources I've cited before claiming it's a GOP conspiracy.

Clocker
02-08-2015, 05:35 PM
Oh, and he has a lovely daughter who plays Peter Pan and simulates graphic sex on HBO. :cool: :ThmbUp:

You post one post in a hundred that doesn't have a video, and it has to be this one? :ThmbDown:

FantasticDan
02-08-2015, 05:37 PM
Please read the various sources I've cited before claiming it's a GOP conspiracy.I'm not claiming it's any such thing. Williams is just another in a long line of vainglorious dolts (thank you 1970s Marvel comics) who are ridiculously successful (by most people's definition), yet still feel the need to "enhance" themselves with lies and exaggeration.

Saratoga_Mike
02-08-2015, 05:40 PM
I'm not claiming it's any such thing. Williams is just another in a long line of vainglorious dolts (thank you 1970s Marvel comics) who are ridiculously successful (by most people's definition), yet still feel the need to "enhance" themselves with lies and exaggeration.

Rare moment where we agree entirely.

FantasticDan
02-08-2015, 05:46 PM
You post one post in a hundred that doesn't have a video, and it has to be this one? :ThmbDown:I have full confidence in your abilities to employ the google in this matter :ThmbUp:

Tom
02-08-2015, 06:19 PM
Tom, JustRalph and others:

The faux outrage is amusing. You guys are acting like children that just had their lunch money stolen. You're upset that a journalist, whom you never watch, that works for a station that you never watch, told lies that you never heard until just recently.

No need for your heads to explode as Williams surely will lose his job. He may pop up again somewhere else, though. Even Imus survived.

Another lemming heard from.
That same thing never happens with the left moonbats here about FOX.....go back and bury your head in the sand. You have nothing to offer here.

NJ Stinks
02-08-2015, 07:34 PM
Another lemming heard from.
That same thing never happens with the left moonbats here about FOX.....go back and bury your head in the sand. You have nothing to offer here.

Who died and put you in charge? :rolleyes:

horses4courses
02-08-2015, 08:36 PM
H4C - this matter has nothing to do with Fox News. You believe GWB and Cheney lied left and right pre-Iraq. That assertion has been made by many; perhaps it's true. It doesn't have anything to do with BW. Nothing. Why not admit that you're defending BW b/c his politics lean left? How about some honesty for a change?

I previously voted for BW's rescue of "a puppy" or "puppies" from a fire as my favorite lie. I now see the NY Post reporting that he previously said in an interview that he was robbed at gunpoint, 0.38 caliber, as a teen while selling Christmas trees. I like that one, too. Maybe it's true. Seriously, maybe it is. Before the Iraq disclosure, I wouldn't have questioned the story for even a second. And therein lies the problem. You can't be a lead anchor with no credibility.

You'll assert - it's the NY Post - Murdoch wrote the article. See, that's where you and Stinks go wrong. The Post is merely using quotes from other news organizations. Is the New Orleans Advocate, run a by a wealthy Dem, out to get BW? Was Esquire magazine out to get BW?

Don't you see a pattern of exaggerations and lies? Just assume BW is Chris Wallace. It will allow you to realize this is a serious matter.

It's a very serious matter - he deserves to be fired.

I think that he has a highly capable replacement in Lester Holt.
So capable, in fact, that I believe their ratings will rise within months.

Fox News is an easy target for liberals.
It broadcasts many things we detest hearing.
So be it - we can all handle freedom of speech.
Won't stop me complaining about them, though.

Clocker
02-08-2015, 08:51 PM
Hitler finds out about the Brian Williams scandal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fu6uBHl0hE

horses4courses
02-09-2015, 05:50 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9ZlnMKCEAAR0Js.jpg:medium

ArlJim78
02-10-2015, 03:55 PM
of course it was inevitable that Hitler would find out about Brian Williams.
and it is one of his better rants, even a Breaking Bad reference. :D


2Fu6uBHl0hE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fu6uBHl0hE

Tom
02-10-2015, 03:56 PM
Savanah Guthrie on deck for the job........:lol::lol::lol::lol:

davew
02-10-2015, 04:02 PM
Lester Holt.
They have a first class, REAL newsman who is a consumate professional - why bring back that SOS liar?

Oh, Lester is Black?
Maybe NBC hasn't hung up it's sheets yet?
"No Black Commentators?"

Lots of "dirty laundry" on the left's own network.

I agree, here he is asking a weatherman about yellow snow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4ba6WqLBjI

horses4courses
02-10-2015, 08:00 PM
. The Associated Press ‏@AP now8 seconds ago
BREAKING: NBC suspends Brian Williams as managing editor and anchor of 'Nightly News' for 6 months.

Tom
02-10-2015, 08:26 PM
No guts.
But then, no one waver accused NBC of having any integrity.

Saratoga_Mike
02-10-2015, 08:29 PM
No guts.
But then, no one waver accused NBC of having any integrity.

His newscast was/is generating $200 mm/year in revenue. That's why he hasn't been fired....no other reason.

Tom
02-10-2015, 08:36 PM
That's why they have no integrity.

JustRalph
02-10-2015, 09:57 PM
Jon Stewart just quit the Daily Show. Rumors he will take over for Williams

JustRalph
02-10-2015, 10:32 PM
Ok....going around Twitter

They won't do it......

FantasticDan
02-11-2015, 12:31 AM
How does one arrive at the notion that Stewart would become the anchor for the nightly news? Maybe they'll offer it to Bill Maher if Stewart doesn't want it? :lol: :bang:

JustRalph
02-11-2015, 03:28 AM
How does one arrive at the notion that Stewart would become the anchor for the nightly news? Maybe they'll offer it to Bill Maher if Stewart doesn't want it? :lol: :bang:

I'm just having fun, but.....how about Rosie O'Donnell?

DJofSD
02-11-2015, 10:42 AM
I'm just having fun, but.....how about Rosie O'Donnell?
Ya, I saw where she's available (again).

horses4courses
02-11-2015, 10:44 AM
I'm just having fun, but.....how about Rosie O'Donnell?

Yeah....you're just having fun...... :faint:

DJofSD
02-11-2015, 10:45 AM
Well, a wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse.

JustRalph
02-11-2015, 03:01 PM
Yeah....you're just having fun...... :faint:

You think Stewart would accept that job? It's been a running joke on Twitter and other places. Lots of graphics like the one I posted going around facebook too. I can tell you this.

I think Stewart could do the job. He's a smart guy. Obviously can handle a staff etc. but NBC would never go that way. He's a branded comedienne. But if you have seen his comments over the last few years, I think he wants to make movies. He's hit his magic number. Has enough money in the bank. Time to go a different route. I think he likes wearing the comedy moniker too.

Adam Sandler got insanely rich making shit movies. I predict that's what Stewart wants to do.

FantasticDan
02-11-2015, 03:46 PM
You think Stewart would accept that job? It's been a running joke on Twitter and other places. Lots of graphics like the one I posted going around facebook too. I can tell you this.

I think Stewart could do the job. He's a smart guy. Obviously can handle a staff etc. but NBC would never go that way. He's a branded comedienne. But if you have seen his comments over the last few years, I think he wants to make movies. He's hit his magic number. Has enough money in the bank. Time to go a different route. I think he likes wearing the comedy moniker too.

Adam Sandler got insanely rich making shit movies. I predict that's what Stewart wants to do.Since none of this makes even the slightest bit of sense, is it just more "having fun"? :rolleyes:

DJofSD
02-11-2015, 03:59 PM
Since none of this makes even the slightest bit of sense, is it just more "having fun"? :rolleyes:
Seriously?

Is it a comprehension issue or you just don't agree?

FantasticDan
02-11-2015, 04:10 PM
Seriously? Is it a comprehension issue or you just don't agree?It's definitely a comprehension issue, since Ralph seems to have no grasp of reality about who Stewart is or what he does.

Oh, he could be the Nightly News anchor :confused:

Or, he could make shitty Adam Sandler-type movies :confused:

Zb80mQoAAzQ

JustRalph
02-11-2015, 04:37 PM
It's definitely a comprehension issue, since Ralph seems to have no grasp of reality about who Stewart is or what he does.

Oh, he could be the Nightly News anchor :confused:

Or, he could make shitty Adam Sandler-type movies :confused:

Zb80mQoAAzQ

Correct me Dan? Stewart has actually grown on me over the years.

I thought I was complimenting him. I guess because I don't agree with him politically, I have no grasp of reality. That's it. I can't appreciate him. I get it.
I guess you have to be a lefty to appreciate his humor, his opinion.

Typical, sorry I didn't mean to encroach on your slick lefty humor. I guess when the Twittersvere went apeshit last night I should have refrained from reading it. Because I'm not smart enough to understand someone so complicated huh?

I get it.......all the smart crafty creative types are your territory. :rolleyes: I'll borrow your eye roll.....

Tom
02-11-2015, 09:31 PM
If Lyin' Brian can do it, ANYONE can do it.
You make up shit, then put on a suit and talk about it.

Saratoga_Mike
02-13-2015, 07:27 PM
More "misremembering.."

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/02/12/questions-emerge-over-statement-brian-williams-made-in-socal/

horses4courses
02-13-2015, 07:36 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9uuQy8CUAEe_2a.jpg:medium

Saratoga_Mike
02-13-2015, 07:44 PM
H4C: This has nothing to do with Fox. It's about holding BW and NBC accountable.

Please post some lies that Chris Wallace has told over time. Love to see them.

More importantly, any chance you can back off on posting the pictures/clipart? Why not just express your thoughts in your own words? You're certainly capable of that.

Saratoga_Mike
02-13-2015, 07:48 PM
Visited the source of your latest Fox pic/clipart/image. From reading their website, it appears you're committing copyright infringement by stealing their images.

Clocker
02-13-2015, 09:15 PM
H4C: This has nothing to do with Fox.

Well if it wasn't Fox, then it must have been Bush's fault. Or that evil bastage Cheney. :p

Stillriledup
02-13-2015, 09:41 PM
Stay Stupid America.

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Tom
02-14-2015, 10:23 AM
H4C: This has nothing to do with Fox.

H4C has nothing to do with reality.

FOX used to lie all the time, until he was asked for an example.
Now they just have bad attitudes. :lol: :lol:

Tom
02-14-2015, 10:26 AM
Visited the source of your latest Fox pic/clipart/image. From reading their website, it appears you're committing copyright infringement by stealing their images.

1-800-CALL-FBI

NJ Stinks
02-14-2015, 11:47 AM
H4C has nothing to do with reality.

FOX used to lie all the time, until he was asked for an example.
Now they just have bad attitudes. :lol: :lol:

Read and learn.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/tv/fox/?page=1

DJofSD
02-14-2015, 11:50 AM
Read and learn.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/tv/fox/?page=1
Oh, ya, Tampa Bay Times, the ultimate source of the truth -- NOT.

Clocker
02-14-2015, 12:45 PM
Oh, ya, Tampa Bay Times, the ultimate source of the truth -- NOT.

I call that article Mostly False and certainly misleading.

They cherry pick statements made by "personalities and their pundit guests". So everything they look at comes from opinion shows, not from the network news. Fox has a lot of liberal guests on those shows. I didn't look past the first 2 pages, because that was evidence enough, but the only liberal there was Bob Beckel, and his statement was called False. I have seen many liberals on Fox make stunningly wrong statements. They weren't lying, because they believed what they said. That article implies that the people that they say are wrong are lying. I didn't see them looking at anything Obama said in his Fox interviews.

And many of their calls were questionable at best. They said it was mostly false that the pipeline would create thousands of jobs because those jobs would be temporary. Jobs are jobs, and a couple of years of construction work is a lot better than any thing Obama has produced. They also label any questioning of "settled science" as False.

The article is worthless.

NJ Stinks
02-14-2015, 01:38 PM
Are Chris Wallace and Brit Hume (to name two) network news guys or what?

Also, did you realize that if you click on the rating next to the person's quote, you learn why the comment received that rating?

Clocker
02-14-2015, 01:55 PM
Are Chris Wallace and Brit Hume (to name two) network news guys or what?

Also, did you realize that if you click on the rating next to the person's quote, you learn why the comment received that rating?

Hume is a political analyst. He is an opinion guy. They show a couple of times he got his facts wrong. They were not egregious errors, and there is no evidence that he was lying. He was doing political commentary at the time, he was not reporting the news.

Wallace is a news guy. He said Reid did not allow a vote on Keystone. The article says Reid allowed a few votes. If you look at that linked "proof", you will see that Reid allowed a couple of votes on amendments and offered to allow a vote if the GOP allowed another bill to pass. But as the paper admits, Reid never allowed a straight up and down vote. They are splitting hairs, and Wallace was right on the essence of his statement.

Saratoga_Mike
02-14-2015, 03:11 PM
Read and learn.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/tv/fox/?page=1

This stuff is great Stinks.

Brit Hume: "It is senior citizens, not Hispanics, who are the fastest-growing demographic in this country."

From 2000 to 2010, the Hispanic population (18+) grew by about 8 mm and the 65+ crowd by roughly 6 mm. In addition, the percentage growth was higher for Hispanics, according to the politifact chart.

How in the world is this on par with BW lying about personal experiences? You don't forget personal experiences like being shot at or bodies floating by you in a hotel. You do forget demographic information unless you have a perfect memory. BW lied to aggrandize himself. Did Brit Hume gain anything by making the above statement? No, I suspect it truly was a case of "misremembering."

Look up voter participation among the 65+ crowd vs. Hispanics. If you adjust for that factor, his statement has some validity as far as what group is more important in driving elections (short term), which was his underlying point.*

*I have not done this. I am speculating. I could easily be wrong.

Bill O'Reilly and many of the others mentioned in the article are commentators, not reporters. That said, Bill O'Reilly is a joke.

Saratoga_Mike
02-14-2015, 03:13 PM
Hume is a political analyst. He is an opinion guy. They show a couple of times he got his facts wrong. They were not egregious errors, and there is no evidence that he was lying. He was doing political commentary at the time, he was not reporting the news.

Wallace is a news guy. He said Reid did not allow a vote on Keystone. The article says Reid allowed a few votes. If you look at that linked "proof", you will see that Reid allowed a couple of votes on amendments and offered to allow a vote if the GOP allowed another bill to pass. But as the paper admits, Reid never allowed a straight up and down vote. They are splitting hairs, and Wallace was right on the essence of his statement.

Hume was a reporter at one point. Stinks is conflating an outright lie for personal aggrandizement and someone not remembering demographic information. It's like conflating Stinks with intellectual honesty.

Saratoga_Mike
02-14-2015, 03:18 PM
Wallace is a news guy. He said Reid did not allow a vote on Keystone. The article says Reid allowed a few votes. If you look at that linked "proof", you will see that Reid allowed a couple of votes on amendments and offered to allow a vote if the GOP allowed another bill to pass. But as the paper admits, Reid never allowed a straight up and down vote. They are splitting hairs, and Wallace was right on the essence of his statement.

Wait, you actually didn't take politifact at face value? You looked at the links? I wonder if Scoop Stinks did that?

Clocker
02-14-2015, 03:21 PM
Bill O'Reilly and many of the others mentioned in the article are commentators, not reporters. That said, Bill O'Reilly is a joke.

I went through the rest of the examples there, and a number of the False statements are made by Democrats. And generally they are of the nature of errors, not lies. But apparently that counts against Fox because they allow Democrats on the shows to make errors.

Saratoga_Mike
02-14-2015, 03:23 PM
I went through the rest of the examples there, and a number of the False statements are made by Democrats. And generally they are of the nature of errors, not lies. But apparently that counts against Fox because they allow Democrats on the shows to make errors.

But they're Democrats - take a page from Stinks' playbook and just call them liars. Your intellectual consistency is troubling to him.

Clocker
02-14-2015, 03:29 PM
Wait, you actually didn't take politifact at face value? You looked at the links? I wonder if Scoop Stinks did that?

The links are to that paper's original story on each item, giving more detail on how they made the decision. In the Wallace/Reid story, they admit that Harry Reid never allowed a vote on the actual pipeline bill, but claimed that Reid allowing votes on a couple of amendments to the bill made Wallace's statement a half truth.

I'm glad the folks at the Tampa paper don't run the track down there. :rolleyes:

Tom
02-14-2015, 03:32 PM
Wow, Stinky....talk about reaching.... :lol:

You were right, I did learn something reading that link......nothing can compare to the TOP GUY on the NBC news is an habitual liar! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Clocker
02-14-2015, 03:42 PM
http://2-ps.googleusercontent.com/xk/-VEEfGChBP5mgx8qY_eD0fhvW8/www.powerlineblog.com/i2.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/admin/ed-assets/2015/02/Williams-over-Obama-copy.jpg,qresize=386,P2C407.pagespeed.ce.srfaniRbJ RxSijIt28V-.jpg.

horses4courses
02-14-2015, 05:56 PM
1-800-CALL-FBI

I'll run that copyright thing past my lawyer first chance I get :liar:

Dial 1-900-BLOWMEE

Tom
02-14-2015, 06:08 PM
Your class is showing.

NJ Stinks
02-14-2015, 09:58 PM
How in the world is this on par with BW lying about personal experiences?

In case you missed it, Mike, I was responding to this:

H4C has nothing to do with reality.

FOX used to lie all the time, until he [Horses4courses] was asked for an example.
Now they just have bad attitudes. :lol: :lol:

Tom didn't mention BW. He was talking about straight talkers at FOX News. You know - the station that can't find anything at all on any topic to say nice about Obama. Oh well, there's only 24 hours in a day. :rolleyes:

Saratoga_Mike
02-14-2015, 11:05 PM
You weren't making an equivalency argument Stinks? Context and inference make that hard to believe, but anything's possible, I guess.

Tom
02-15-2015, 09:47 AM
Tom didn't mention BW. He was talking about straight talkers at FOX News.
You read about well as hcap.

I was referring to H4C constantly calling FOX liars, until I asked for a real example. then he changed his song to they were negative people.
No evidence.

And FOX doesn't make Obama look bad, Obama makes Obama look bad.
When you have done such a poor job as Obama, and screwed up everything, it is hard not to make you look bad.

Obviously, you never watch FOX NEWS.
For my money, the news is FAR too forgiving of Obama.

Robert Fischer
02-15-2015, 10:06 AM
http://2-ps.googleusercontent.com/xk/-VEEfGChBP5mgx8qY_eD0fhvW8/www.powerlineblog.com/i2.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/admin/ed-assets/2015/02/Williams-over-Obama-copy.jpg,qresize=386,P2C407.pagespeed.ce.srfaniRbJ RxSijIt28V-.jpg.


ahahahaha

Tom
02-15-2015, 10:13 AM
Tonight on TV - SNL's 40th Anniversary special.

btw, Brian Williams was a member of the original cast.

DJofSD
02-15-2015, 10:18 AM
Tonight on TV - SNL's 40th Anniversary special.

btw, Brian Williams was a member of the original cast.
Yes, and some parts are edible.

Robert Fischer
02-15-2015, 10:21 AM
Not that Obama isn't a political genius, with the responsibility of making all these important decisions for our nation, but aside from that great responsibility, Barry and Brian's job descriptions aren't that different.

A lot of public speaking, a lot of reading from the script.

They both have cool voices in my opinion. They sound official to me.

Tom
02-15-2015, 11:30 AM
A lot of public speaking, a lot of reading from the script, a whole lot of lying.

NJ Stinks
02-15-2015, 08:16 PM
Not that Obama isn't a political genius....

I guess we'll find out in 2016 if it takes a 'political genius' to beat the GOP. I, for one, believe it's the GOP message that will tell tale.

Again.

Tom
02-15-2015, 10:26 PM
Tonight on TV - SNL's 40th Anniversary special.

btw, Brian Williams was a member of the original cast.

HEY! Seinfeld stole my material!!!!!

JustRalph
02-15-2015, 11:48 PM
HEY! Seinfeld stole my material!!!!!



Send him an invoice!!

Saratoga_Mike
02-16-2015, 11:04 AM
I guess we'll find out in 2016 if it takes a 'political genius' to beat the GOP. I, for one, believe it's the GOP message that will tell tale.

Again.

Yeah, the message was all wrong. It had nothing to do with two lousy candidates. In any case, your party has created more dependence over the past 6 years, which will certainly make it more of an uphill battle for the GOP candidate in 2016.

NJ Stinks
02-16-2015, 01:27 PM
Yeah, the message was all wrong. It had nothing to do with two lousy candidates. In any case, your party has created more dependence over the past 6 years, which will certainly make it more of an uphill battle for the GOP candidate in 2016.

Yea, you're right. The Democratic party never should passed a bill that prohibits insurance companies from dropping somebody because they got sick. Or not insuring somebody because that person has a pre-existing condition. And what the hell were Dems thinking when they passed a bill that prohibits lifetime limits on medical expenses set by insurance companies? Not too mention allowing kids to stay on their parents'medical plan until age 26.

Yep. Those stinking Dems did all that. And then there are the people who never could afford health insurance but now have coverage because of Obamacare. That's the Dems fault too.

If enough Americans are pissed are about what the Dems did above, the GOP should win easy in 2016. After all, the vast majority of us are/were not depending on Obamacare for a damn thing. IMO, that should make it easier for the GOP to win in 2016 - not harder as you claimed in your post above.

Clocker
02-16-2015, 01:40 PM
Yea, you're right. The Democratic party never should passed a bill that prohibits insurance companies from dropping somebody because they got sick. Or not insuring somebody because that person has a pre-existing condition. And what the hell were Dems thinking when they passed a bill that prohibits lifetime limits on medical expenses set by insurance companies? Not too mention allowing kids to stay on their parents'medical plan until age 26.


All of those things are welfare issues, not insurance. Those things were available before ObamaCare, but were either individual responsibility matters or were actually covered by government programs. Preexisting conditions were covered and subsidized by state high risk pools. Why is insurance for a 26 year old "kid" a concern for society? You want your kid to have insurance, pay for it.

All of this is a bleeding heart liberal scam. It is welfare paid for through artificially high insurance premiums. If society deems those things necessary, do it honestly. Call it what it is, welfare, and fund it through general tax revenues.

Saratoga_Mike
02-16-2015, 01:58 PM
Stinks is supportive of expanding the welfare state. I believe he's honest enough to admit that.

Tom
02-16-2015, 02:20 PM
Now, if only he was willing to put HIS money where his mouth is and not everyone else's.

Clocker
02-16-2015, 02:34 PM
Now, if only he was willing to put HIS money where his mouth is and not everyone else's.

You don't know what is good for you. :p

NJ Stinks
02-16-2015, 07:27 PM
Stinks is supportive of expanding the welfare state. I believe he's honest enough to admit that.

I am when it comes to health care. But immigrants are another story. Welfare for illegal immigrants I'm against. Unless emergency medical treatment is a necessity. Then ship them out of here ASAP.

Saratoga_Mike
02-16-2015, 07:37 PM
Welfare for illegal immigrants I'm against. Unless emergency medical treatment is a necessity. Then ship them out of here ASAP.

Sarcasm or is this really your position?

NJ Stinks
02-16-2015, 07:48 PM
Sarcasm or is this really your position?

I'm serious. I'm also against kids born in the USA automatically becoming citizens. That just encourages illegals to come here and have babies.

Saratoga_Mike
02-16-2015, 08:01 PM
I'm serious. I'm also against kids born in the USA automatically becoming citizens. That just encourages illegals to come here and have babies.

Wow, I suspect you're too the right of 95% of Reps in the House and Senate on this one. I disagree with you, too. You don't change the Constitution b/c Obama (and GWB previously) refuse to secure the borders, something that could be achieved in about 90 days if truly desired. I'm startled by your position on this matter. HCAP and Most may disavow you.

NJ Stinks
02-16-2015, 09:11 PM
Wow, I suspect you're too the right of 95% of Reps in the House and Senate on this one. I disagree with you, too. You don't change the Constitution b/c Obama (and GWB previously) refuse to secure the borders, something that could be achieved in about 90 days if truly desired. I'm startled by your position on this matter. HCAP and Most may disavow you.

Allowing the baby born here to automatically become an American citizen makes it harder to expel the illegal parents as time goes by.

IMO, that law encourages illegals to come here and have babies born on American soil.

PaceAdvantage
02-18-2015, 03:57 PM
I'll run that copyright thing past my lawyer first chance I get :liar:Just for your "Blow Me" comment, I think I'll start deleting some of your more nonsensical nonsense.

horses4courses
05-17-2015, 04:48 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFOArv1XIAAJKwd.jpg:medium

so.cal.fan
05-17-2015, 05:04 PM
LOL

reckless
05-17-2015, 09:04 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFOArv1XIAAJKwd.jpg:medium

Finally, here's a H4C cartoon that's actually funny! :)

WTG!!