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whodoyoulike
01-03-2015, 06:59 PM
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102304957

Efforts to allow internet gambling across the US have stalled, after a campaign backed by casino owners pushed back against industry efforts to allow more widespread wagering on laptops and smartphones...

The momentum began to slow just three months after Mr Freeman's declaration, when casino mogul Sheldon Adelson used his presence on the AGA board to persuade the group to withdraw its support for online betting. Mr Adelson, the billionaire chairman of Las Vegas Sands, pledged to spend "whatever it takes" to stop internet gaming...

I guess Mr. Adelson enjoys being a dictator in his business dealings. And, I realize he's a very rich man which is why I added the "tator".

... Proponents of liberalisation in New Jersey point out that its problems have been strictly financial. There were no reported cases of online casinos being used for the nefarious purposes that Mr Adelson has warned about, such as money laundering by terrorists and crime syndicates, nor was there any reported gaming by underage players.

"From a regulatory perspective, our systems are working very well," said David Rebuck, director of New Jersey's Division of Gaming Enforcement. "There have been no systematic failures that would in any way impugn the overall integrity of our operations." ...

I'm starting to wonder if our elected officials are really influenced by the $$ or what their constituents want.

dilanesp
01-03-2015, 09:11 PM
Every form of legal gaming in the US has spread very slowly, state to state. Horses, lotteries, casinos. Online poker will be no different.

thaskalos
01-03-2015, 10:18 PM
Every form of legal gaming in the US has spread very slowly, state to state. Horses, lotteries, casinos. Online poker will be no different.
Online poker is dead...and there will be no resurrection. It has powerful enemies...and not enough influential friends.

Robert Goren
01-04-2015, 06:59 AM
Online poker is dead...and there will be no resurrection. It has powerful enemies...and not enough influential friends.Sorry to say, you nailed it to a tee. I have given up hope that I will ever see its return in my lifetime in the United States.

dilanesp
01-04-2015, 02:18 PM
Online poker is dead...and there will be no resurrection. It has powerful enemies...and not enough influential friends.

I would have never imagined the spread of Indian gaming, which also had powerful enemies. And the tide is finally starting to turn on sports betting, which has really powerful enemies.

The public likes gambling. Over time, that tends to win out. But it takes time. I think you will see a big state like California with budget problems set up legal online poker at some point, and then other states will join the network.

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01-04-2015, 04:36 PM
I would have never imagined the spread of Indian gaming, which also had powerful enemies. And the tide is finally starting to turn on sports betting, which has really powerful enemies.

The public likes gambling. Over time, that tends to win out. But it takes time. I think you will see a big state like California with budget problems set up legal online poker at some point, and then other states will join the network.

The issue holding up poker in California is a battle between two tribal alliances. There is a consensus that on line poker should be legalized. The mechanics of who gets to partner with the tribes to provide that platform is the hold up.

I was surprised when this didn't get resolved last year so I won't say it'll happen in 2015 but it'll happen.

whodoyoulike
01-04-2015, 05:00 PM
The issue holding up poker in California is a battle between two tribal alliances. There is a consensus that on line poker should be legalized. The mechanics of who gets to partner with the tribes to provide that platform is the hold up.

I was surprised when this didn't get resolved last year so I won't say it'll happen in 2015 but it'll happen.

Why is the passage dependent on tribal involvement in CA?

I realize the Indian tribes are a powerful bloc regarding gambling in the U.S. but how do they have a final word on this matter?

I just can't believe even after NJ gaming reported no illegal activities or the other fears, our representatives are stalling consideration of the passage or whatever. Vote it down instead of stalling then at least we can vote these people out of office. Everything should be fine as long as there are appropriate safeguards put into place to prevent corruption.

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01-04-2015, 06:08 PM
Why is the passage dependent on tribal involvement in CA?

I realize the Indian tribes are a powerful bloc regarding gambling in the U.S. but how do they have a final word on this matter?

I just can't believe even after NJ gaming reported no illegal activities or the other fears, our representatives are stalling consideration of the passage or whatever. Vote it down instead of stalling then at least we can vote these people out of office. Everything should be fine as long as there are appropriate safeguards put into place to prevent corruption.

Passage is dependent on tribal involvement because of federal court decisions (Google the 1987 Cabazon decision for the primary one) followed by a vote in California to change our constitution allowing gaming on tribal land, followed by a series of compacts the state negotiated with tribes to govern that gaming.

Card clubs and race tracks in California have aligned themselves with one Indian coalition or the other so they are also involved but are minority partners in this endeavor. The tribes are the 800 lb gorillas and as soon as they resolve their issues (mainly whether or not PokerStars will be allowed to provide one of the platforms) it will pass.