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BombsAway Bob
12-28-2014, 03:57 PM
Does anyone have the odds by MTP for 8th Aqueduct?
Swore #3 was 20/1 or so as they approached the gate..
goes into first turn on lead at 6/1.
I know Maggie gave thumbs up in paddock, & speed is
doing fine, but that had to be a pretty good chunk sent in late.

PhantomOnTour
12-28-2014, 04:01 PM
I'm just extremely disappointed that #4 Lunar Surge couldn't get up :faint:
Looked like a winner all the way down the lane, then came in a bit, bumped the #2, and lost some momentum...game over :bang:

Some_One
12-28-2014, 06:31 PM
HPI says 25-1 at 0 MTP and 6-1 final, 86K (Cdn$) bet into the total win pool in that time.

Exotic1
12-28-2014, 06:32 PM
Does anyone have the odds by MTP for 8th Aqueduct?
Swore #3 was 20/1 or so as they approached the gate..
goes into first turn on lead at 6/1.
I know Maggie gave thumbs up in paddock, & speed is
doing fine, but that had to be a pretty good chunk sent in late.

I thought the odds were going to be realigned to match the track bias but I didn't expect 6/1. Was it one punch - I was busy keying in bets? I'll say there was some arbitrage or automated betting that got out of sync.

Exotic1
12-28-2014, 06:35 PM
HPI says 25-1 at 0 MTP and 6-1 final, 86K (Cdn$) bet into the total win pool in that time.

Wow.

Your post got in before I hit enter.

Cholly
12-28-2014, 07:15 PM
The doubles will-pays from Race 7 had Faith Hall (#3) @ 50-1, and at NYRA those are usually pretty accurate...something strange happened here for her to go off @ 6-1.

Exotic1
12-28-2014, 07:20 PM
The doubles will-pays from Race 7 had Faith Hall (#3) @ 50-1, and at NYRA those are usually pretty accurate...something strange happened here for her to go off @ 6-1.

Doubles as well as the Exactas in the 8th.

cutchemist42
12-28-2014, 08:31 PM
I'm just extremely disappointed that #4 Lunar Surge couldn't get up :faint:
Looked like a winner all the way down the lane, then came in a bit, bumped the #2, and lost some momentum...game over :bang:

Yep, had Lunar singled in the P4 contest here (already lost the 7th race anyway) and thought he had it entering the stretch.

Stillriledup
12-28-2014, 09:28 PM
The 3 was a horse i never considered using, thought she was a no hoper. When i saw 6-1 i thought it must have been a mistake. Is it possible someone bet the wrong track? Was there a #3 horse at some other track in the country that was a huge favorite that was about to go off the same time as that Aqu race?

davew
12-28-2014, 09:44 PM
wasn't there too much early on 2 Amulay? If I remember correctly, there were odds changes on a few horses (corrections).

ReplayRandall
12-28-2014, 10:10 PM
The 3 was a horse i never considered using, thought she was a no hoper. When i saw 6-1 i thought it must have been a mistake. Is it possible someone bet the wrong track? Was there a #3 horse at some other track in the country that was a huge favorite that was about to go off the same time as that Aqu race?


Since this situation can't be reasoned, put the horse Faith Hall, the trainer Leah Gyarmati and the owner Avachick Stable, all on your watch lists for 2 weeks and see if somebody tips off their hand on another play.......might be nothing at all......or it could lead to $$.

FocusWiz
12-28-2014, 10:56 PM
Does anyone have the odds by MTP for 8th Aqueduct?
Swore #3 was 20/1 or so as they approached the gate..
goes into first turn on lead at 6/1.
I know Maggie gave thumbs up in paddock, & speed is
doing fine, but that had to be a pretty good chunk sent in late.Not exactly by minute, but the attached is what I captured. It is in decimal odds, so where you see "28" it represents 27/1, "4.5" represents 7/2, etc.

Looks like the money came in all at once at the end. The :2: also dropped, so it might have been a typo putting the money on the :3:. The money came in as win money only. It did not look like place or show money followed.

ReplayRandall
12-28-2014, 11:20 PM
Focus, according to the chart you've shown, the odds should have risen on the other contenders much more proportionately, and that didn't happen at all. Looks like a tote-board malfunction more than anything else......

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14111

FocusWiz
12-28-2014, 11:36 PM
Could be.

It looks odd, though because this horse had only 3%-4% of the place and show pools but had 12% of the win pool. Perhaps $10,000-$15,000 came in at the end (I don't track the actual dollars).

I did not play this race, but the :3: was not anywhere on my list of contenders. I could understand the :2: taking late money, and to some extent the :7: but not the :3:.

Interestingly, the :3: also seemed to be bet down a bit from the morning line in the exacta wagering (behind the :5:, :2:, :7:, and :1:...not saying much).

Like you said, should likely be watched the next time out.

Stillriledup
12-29-2014, 12:36 AM
Could you imagine the outcry if this horse had won?

Would have paid 14 to win and more to place.

Stillriledup
12-29-2014, 12:43 AM
Focus, according to the chart you've shown, the odds should have risen on the other contenders much more proportionately, and that didn't happen at all. Looks like a tote-board malfunction more than anything else......

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14111


This looks odd to me that nobody really went up all that much, the pool was about 154k and the 3 appeared to have an extra 10k on him........so, where did the 10k go?

Some_One
12-29-2014, 01:09 AM
25 to 6 is only about a 8pp move, the 5 going from 4 to 5 is a 3pp move. 2pp for the 4 going 9/2 to 5, 2pp for the 6 going 7 to 9 and 2pp for the 1 going 6 to 7.