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Clocker
12-16-2014, 01:37 PM
A lawsuit has been filed by the families of 9 victims of the Sandy Hook school shooting against Bushmaster, the manufacturer of the weapon used.


The lawsuit filed Monday by victims of the Sandy Hook school shooting, seeking to hold liable the manufacturer of the Bushmaster AR-15 used in the massacre, will test the 2005 federal law designed to protect gun companies by using an exemption normally applied to car accident cases.

The lawsuit by families of nine students and adults killed and one surviving teacher who was shot several times by Adam Lanza will attempt to use what is known as the negligent entrustment exemption to the law. In a negligent entrustment case, a party can be held liable for entrusting a product, in this case the Bushmaster rifle, to another party who then causes harm to a third party,



The suit is against the retailer, the distributor, and the manufacturer. Negligent entrustment is a principle sometimes applied to a retailer, claiming he should have known better than to sell something to a particular person. It has never been applied to a manufacturer.

The attorney says that the weapon should never have been sold to the public because it is a military assault weapon designed for war, and Bushmaster should have been aware that it is the weapon of choice for mass murderers.

http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-sandy-hook-gun-lawsuit-20141215-story.html

Tape Reader
12-16-2014, 01:47 PM
They left out the most damaging: Hollywood!

horses4courses
12-16-2014, 01:53 PM
A lawsuit has been filed by the families of 9 victims of the Sandy Hook school shooting against Bushmaster, the manufacturer of the weapon used.



The suit is against the retailer, the distributor, and the manufacturer. Negligent entrustment is a principle sometimes applied to a retailer, claiming he should have known better than to sell something to a particular person. It has never been applied to a manufacturer.

The attorney says that the weapon should never have been sold to the public because it is a military assault weapon designed for war, and Bushmaster should have been aware that it is the weapon of choice for mass murderers.

http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-sandy-hook-gun-lawsuit-20141215-story.html


You asked me in another thread which parts
of the Constitution do I feel need amending.
Well, you're getting warm now.......

Clocker
12-16-2014, 01:54 PM
They left out the most damaging: Hollywood!

And video games are an obvious example of negligent entrustment. The very fact that someone wants to buy "Grand Theft Auto" is proof that the person cannot be trusted with it.

Clocker
12-16-2014, 01:55 PM
You asked me in another thread which parts
of the Constitution do I feel need amending.
Well, you're getting warm now.......

Ambulance chasing lawyers?

What did I win? :p

JustRalph
12-16-2014, 02:14 PM
This has been tried before. They always lose. Looking for a liberal judge is all

Robert Goren
12-16-2014, 02:31 PM
People were killing other people with guns long before there were movies and video games. The second amendment was written in a time of a single shot guns and it took a coon's age to reload. With todays guns, a half dozen people are dead before anyone can shout "shooter". Laws need to reflect the times. The NRA is right. People kill people. What they don't say is how much easier it is to kill some one with a gun.

Tom
12-16-2014, 02:42 PM
People were killing other people with guns long before there were movies and video games. The second amendment was written in a time of a single shot guns and it took a coon's age to reload. With todays guns, a half dozen people are dead before anyone can shout "shooter". Laws need to reflect the times. The NRA is right. People kill people. What they don't say is how much easier it is to kill some one with a gun.

What do you think would be the best thing to do abut this?

1. Riot in Ferguson
2. Riot in NYC
3. Amend the Constitution

HUSKER55
12-16-2014, 05:54 PM
Let us say we outlaw guns.

Do you REALLY believe that will have an impact?

Will no guns stop the crap around the world, let alone here in the USA.

Think about this. Let us assume a good compound bow has a kill range of about 100 yards. That is about 4X farther than where gun crimes take place.

Do you have any idea how many could be killed in silence before anyone knew?

Outlawing guns will solve nothing.

Suppose you turn in your guns and a thief comes to your door?

Whatchagoona....whatcagonnado....

newtothegame
12-16-2014, 06:00 PM
People were killing other people with guns long before there were movies and video games. The second amendment was written in a time of a single shot guns and it took a coon's age to reload. With todays guns, a half dozen people are dead before anyone can shout "shooter". Laws need to reflect the times. The NRA is right. People kill people. What they don't say is how much easier it is to kill some one with a gun.
And in 2011, somewhere north of 32,000 people were killed in auto accidents. Times have changed from the horse and buggy.....Automobiles should be outlawed according to your thinking......
:bang:

DJofSD
12-16-2014, 06:11 PM
What do you think would be the best thing to do abut this?

1. Riot in Ferguson
2. Riot in NYC
3. Amend the Constitution
4. Put your hands up then say "don't shoot!"

Clocker
12-16-2014, 06:14 PM
And in 2011, somewhere north of 32,000 people were killed in auto accidents. Times have changed from the horse and buggy.....Automobiles should be outlawed according to your thinking......
:bang:

And radio, TV, and the internet. When the 1st Amendment was written, all they had was quill pens and hand cranked printing presses. How can we get by with such an obsolete law?

boxcar
12-16-2014, 06:39 PM
And in 2011, somewhere north of 32,000 people were killed in auto accidents. Times have changed from the horse and buggy.....Automobiles should be outlawed according to your thinking......
:bang:

:lol: :lol: :lol: Do you have any stats on how many were killed in horse and buggy accidents? So many more people have died since the invention of the horseless buggy.

DJofSD
12-16-2014, 06:40 PM
Don't forget about flying machines and modern medicine. Oh, and food preparation and preservation.

horses4courses
12-16-2014, 07:04 PM
Let us say we outlaw guns.
Do you REALLY believe that will have an impact?

Okay, and no.

Except for assault weapons - they should be outlawed
outside of law enforcement and the military.

More lives can be saved in the long run by making them
illegal for civilians. I know it won't matter much at first.

fast4522
12-16-2014, 07:19 PM
People were killing other people with guns long before there were movies and video games. The second amendment was written in a time of a single shot guns and it took a coon's age to reload. With todays guns, a half dozen people are dead before anyone can shout "shooter". Laws need to reflect the times. The NRA is right. People kill people. What they don't say is how much easier it is to kill some one with a gun.

I think those who are now shovel ready desire to have the most to say on the subject. And because of that, few should listen to those who desire policy for the next generation who they will never live to see their accomplishments.

JustRalph
12-16-2014, 07:27 PM
http://www.nationallawjournal.com/home/id=1202679079482/OpEd-Delaying-Exams-Is-Not-a-Request-from-Coddled-Millennials?mcode=1202617074964&curindex=0&slreturn=20141116192259

Whine on.....

Clocker
12-16-2014, 07:30 PM
http://www.nationallawjournal.com/home/id=1202679079482/OpEd-Delaying-Exams-Is-Not-a-Request-from-Coddled-Millennials?mcode=1202617074964&curindex=0&slreturn=20141116192259

Whine on.....

Sounds familiar:

William Desmond is a third-year student at Harvard Law School and is an editor on the Harvard Law Review.

fast4522
12-16-2014, 07:39 PM
Okay, and no.

Except for assault weapons - they should be outlawed
outside of law enforcement and the military.

More lives can be saved in the long run by making them
illegal for civilians. I know it won't matter much at first.


Except that you are losing ground on the subject. Since Sandy Hook the voting public are more in alignment with ownership than prior. Sales have gone through the roof and opinion has more trust with the common man and less with government, that ship might have sailed.

HUSKER55
12-16-2014, 07:59 PM
Except that you are losing ground on the subject. Since Sandy Hook the voting public are more in alignment with ownership than prior. Sales have gone through the roof and opinion has more trust with the common man and less with government, that ship might have sailed.


Good Point.

Clocker
12-16-2014, 08:04 PM
Except for assault weapons - they should be outlawed
outside of law enforcement and the military.



And what, pray tell, is an assault weapon? :confused:

horses4courses
12-16-2014, 08:04 PM
Except that you are losing ground on the subject. Since Sandy Hook the voting public are more in alignment with ownership than prior. Sales have gone through the roof and opinion has more trust with the common man and less with government, that ship might have sailed.

You can lead a horse to water.....

I agree that it would be highly unlikely to fly.
Many innocent lives could be saved down the road.
The gun lobby won't hear it, though, and they have a lot of clout.

Tom
12-16-2014, 11:40 PM
4. Put your hands up then say "don't shoot!"

Only if you work at CNN.

Dahoss2002
12-17-2014, 03:40 AM
If he drove himself to the school, the auto manufacturer should be sued as well since the car allowed him to conceal the Bushmaster. Had he walked down the road, the Bushmaster would have been visible and the GOOBERNMENT could have stopped him.