TVG pimping sports betting on NFL games?

[Stillriledup]

I dont know too much about it, but they seem to be pimping viewers to wager on the NFL?

[horses4courses]

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[pandy]

It's fantasy football pools. I don't know how these companies get away with taking bets without actually having gambling licenses.

[Inglewood Flamingo]

It's fantasy football pools. I don't know how these companies get away with taking bets without actually having gambling licenses.

I have been saying this exact same thing for years. Every office I have ever worked in had football fantasy pools and practically every employee was involved with real money. Maybe we just need need in house company bookies to play "fantasy horseracing"... :D

[olddaddy]

It's fantasy football pools. I don't know how these companies get away with taking bets without actually having gambling licenses.


I say that to anyone in ear shot every time a commercial comes on. I dont get it.

[ALostTexan]

It is because the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act specifically exempts fantasy sports as a game of skill. See this link: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/5362

While this was being drafted and eventually passed in 2006 and was seen as a big win for the horse racing industry. Poker would be stamped out, and racing could turn their focus onto making it harder for their own customers to wager on the product, such as in states like Arizona, where using a licensed ADW was made a felony.

But the bill also opened the door for these online fantasy sports leagues to thrive, and now they are doing a couple of billion dollars in business and still rapidly growing.

[horses4courses]

Finding winners against the spread is a game of skill, too ;)

[cutchemist42]

I will never understand how your government screwed over poker as a game of skill.....

[DelMarJay]

Seems very odd considering competition for the gambling/entertainment dollar. Also happen to know the Feds are looking very closely at the above mentioned law to see if the "draft" companies are truly complying with all the regulations. We'll see how long these strange bedfellows stick together.

[Canarsie]

I hope most expecting a dollar for dollar bonus will be extremely disappointed.

Has anyone else realized FanDuel's "Deposit Match" is a misleading scam?

https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyfootball/comments/2ncmkn/has_anyone_else_realized_fanduels_deposit_match/

How much of your Draftkings Bonus has been released?

https://www.reddit.com/r/dfsports/comments/2mc3fl/how_much_of_your_draftkings_bonus_has_been/

I'm going to go out on a limb here since there has been lots of ads and mini infomercial on TVG there can only be one reason. Betfair has or will be buying some sort of stake into them with an opportunity to buy more. They're getting a household name and a company that's starting to emerge from infancy that could probably need guidance from a grandpa like betfair. Only time will tell if I'm right or wrong, either way it won't be the last one.

[pandy]

From what I've read, Betfair is not listed as one of the investors....yet. But advertising dollars are very important and it looks like Draftkings is now the biggest advertiser on TVG.

[Stillriledup]

From what I've read, Betfair is not listed as one of the investors....yet. But advertising dollars are very important and it looks like Draftkings is now the biggest advertiser on TVG.

man, they sold their soul. (i know, you're thinking what soul)

[Bullet Plane]

I thought I lost TVG on U-verse a couple years ago. While programing my remote for favorites, I discovered that it had just moved to Fox Sports Prime.

Any other horse racing TV channels out there that I'm missing?

I know that Fox Sports One also has horse racing on occasion, as well as the regular networks. Of course, I get HRTV as well....

[Stillriledup]

This crap is really annoying. I gotta put these guys on mute, i can't listen to this stuff.

[cj]

I thought I lost TVG on U-verse a couple years ago. While programing my remote for favorites, I discovered that it had just moved to Fox Sports Prime.

Any other horse racing TV channels out there that I'm missing?

I know that Fox Sports One also has horse racing on occasion, as well as the regular networks. Of course, I get HRTV as well....

TVG was removed on uVerse, it is just picked up at times by some of the Fox Sport affiliates.

[Shelby]

I don't usually complain about TVG because I feel lucky to even have a horse racing channel, but this football stuff is driving me crazy. I'm a huge football fan (Go Broncos). When I want to catch up on my football news I switch to ESPN.

[pandy]

It's the power of the almighty dollar. Either Betfair privately bought into Draft Kings, which would be a wise business decision, or Draft Kings is paying them a lot of money in advertising fees.

[Canarsie]

It's the power of the almighty dollar. Either Betfair privately bought into Draft Kings, which would be a wise business decision, or Draft Kings is paying them a lot of money in advertising fees.

FanDuel vs. DraftKings: Are we seeing the future of sports wagering?

http://www.bizjournals.com/newyork/blog/techflash/2014/11/fanduel-vs-draftkings-are-we-seeing-the-future-of.html?page=all


Looking into my crystal ball I foresee (wrong just as much right) a link from the TVG wagering window directly into DraftKings. There has to be more to this story that we know of but I don't have a clue about the extent of it.

[Stillriledup]

Clowns are at it again, talking about football instead of horse racing. Wow, talk about being bought and sold. Must be nice to go to sleep at night knowing that.

[PaceAdvantage]

Way to keep your thread alive after a month of dormancy... :ThmbUp:

[Stillriledup]

Way to keep your thread alive after a month of dormancy... :ThmbUp:

Consider it your monthly reminder. ;)

[thespaah]

It's fantasy football pools. I don't know how these companies get away with taking bets without actually having gambling licenses.
It's a loophole. Gambling on sports is specific to the outcome of a contest or portion of a contest. It appears as though "betting" on the performance of a individual player or multiple players is not considered 'gambling'....
That's illogical.
I believe speculation on stock and commodities markets to be just another form of gambling...
The hypocrisy of this is boundless.

[Stillriledup]

It's a loophole. Gambling on sports is specific to the outcome of a contest or portion of a contest. It appears as though "betting" on the performance of a individual player or multiple players is not considered 'gambling'....
That's illogical.
I believe speculation on stock and commodities markets to be just another form of gambling...
The hypocrisy of this is boundless.

Unless its exchange wagering, than its not allowed. So horsemen will fight tooth and nail to NOT have exchange wagering, but they have no problem being part of a network that is teaching their horse betting customers about sports betting. Brilliant.

[Stillriledup]

Wow, time flies. :D

[upthecreek]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/11/sports/football/draftkings-fanduel-new-york-attorney-general-tells-fantasy-sites-to-stop-taking-bets-in-new-york.html?_r=0

[barahona44]

The beginning of the end.
And good riddance, I say.Football is the ultimate team game,yet the contributions of linemen,special teams coaching,etc. is negated by the emphasis on passing, rushing and receiving yardage.

[thespaah]

It's fantasy football pools. I don't know how these companies get away with taking bets without actually having gambling licenses.
I don't view this as gambling.
it's basically picking a team of players and using a scoring system based on statistics each person's team is ranked.
Gambling is a game of chance. This involves skill.
There is a considerable amount of grey area. And that is the doing of state and federal legislatures.

[thespaah]

I will never understand how your government screwed over poker as a game of skill.....
In a word, "image"...
The image of poker and poker players is a bunch of people in a smoke filled room boozing it up while playing card games. It's a "dirty" game.

[thespaah]

I hope most expecting a dollar for dollar bonus will be extremely disappointed.

Has anyone else realized FanDuel's "Deposit Match" is a misleading scam?

https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyfootball/comments/2ncmkn/has_anyone_else_realized_fanduels_deposit_match/

How much of your Draftkings Bonus has been released?

https://www.reddit.com/r/dfsports/comments/2mc3fl/how_much_of_your_draftkings_bonus_has_been/

I'm going to go out on a limb here since there has been lots of ads and mini infomercial on TVG there can only be one reason. Betfair has or will be buying some sort of stake into them with an opportunity to buy more. They're getting a household name and a company that's starting to emerge from infancy that could probably need guidance from a grandpa like betfair. Only time will tell if I'm right or wrong, either way it won't be the last one.
Reddit. like any other message board/consumer complaint fest, is not exactly reliable as a source.
Before I opened my fan duel account I read the terms and conditions. I was fully aware that the deposit bonus would be credited back incrementally.
Now, I must ask, what is the difference between that and when an ADW ( TVG for example) offers a deposit bonus which the account holder must meet certain conditions in order to receive the entire bonus?

[thespaah]

One question I have is why would anyone who has no intentions of playing fanduel or draft kings even care about how they operate? What's it to them?

[thespaah]

man, they sold their soul. (i know, you're thinking what soul)
SO what?
Are you playing these fantasy leagues? No? Then why be concerned?

[thespaah]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/11/sports/football/draftkings-fanduel-new-york-attorney-general-tells-fantasy-sites-to-stop-taking-bets-in-new-york.html?_r=0
Amazing how one politician can wield that much power.
This gets challenged in court and the NY Atty Gen loses. on appeal....
That Office does not get to have an opinion with passion or prejudice

[thespaah]

The beginning of the end.
And good riddance, I say.Football is the ultimate team game,yet the contributions of linemen,special teams coaching,etc. is negated by the emphasis on passing, rushing and receiving yardage.
Please explain? Why are you so concerned?

[Stillriledup]

SO what?
Are you playing these fantasy leagues? No? Then why be concerned?

But I do bet horses and listen to them on occasion, so it behooves me to know if they have a soul or not since I'm listening to them regularly.

[thaskalos]

In a word, "image"...
The image of poker and poker players is a bunch of people in a smoke filled room boozing it up while playing card games. It's a "dirty" game.

Poker is a "dirty game'?

It's a game that has been loved by more than a few American PRESIDENTS...for heaven's sake. :faint:

[thaskalos]

I don't view this as gambling.
it's basically picking a team of players and using a scoring system based on statistics each person's team is ranked.
Gambling is a game of chance. This involves skill.
There is a considerable amount of grey area. And that is the doing of state and federal legislatures.

Isn't SPORTS BETTING a "game of skill? Why is the government against its legalization?

Not "clean" enough?

[AndyC]

Isn't SPORTS BETTING a "game of skill? Why is the government against its legalization?....

If it were the bookies wouldn't be in business.

[Stillriledup]

If it were the bookies wouldn't be in business.

They would stay in business because they offer betting on credit, betting in racebooks requires a cash outlay. Also, the bookie betting is under the radar, if you bet with a sportsbook you're on surveillance as well as possibly having to sign forms if you win over a certain amount, none of that is a worry if you bet with a local.

[Stillriledup]

Good piece (and funny) on fantasy sports from John Oliver.

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