Aqu inner

[Robert Goren]

When does the Aqu inner start? Are we going to have P4 contest again this year?

[Shemp Howard]

Inner opens Wednesday, Dec.3rd

[FantasticDan]

Four fatalities in the first three days of the inner. From @DRFGrening at http://live.drf.com

Two horses died at Aqueduct Friday in a terrible spill in the eighth race.

Quick Money, a 7-year-old gelding and Half Nelson, a 5-year-old gelding, both suffered fatal injuries as the result of an incident that occurred in mid-stretch of the six-furlong race. Laila’s Jazz, a 4-year-old gelding, also went down, but miraculously escaped serious injury.

The incident occurred when Quick Money, ridden by Angel Serpa, clipped heels after American Creed, ridden by Manuel Franco, drifted in and Sol the Freud, ridden by C.C. Lopez, drifted out, closing what was a narrow hole.

Quick Money went down and died as a result of the fall, according to the stewards. Laila’s Jazz fell over him. Half Nelson, ridden by Israel Rodriguez fell over Laila’s Jazz. Half Nelson was vanned off but had to be euthanized due to a shoulder fracture, according to the stewards.

Laila’s Jazz got up and ran loose before being apprehended by an outrider and was not deemed to be seriously injured.

Quick Money, a 7-year-old gelding by City Zip, was making his 54th career start. He had a record of 12-14-7 and earnings of $527,934. Popular at the claim box, Quick Money for this race was running for Rudy Rodriguez and Silver Streak Stables.

Half Nelson, a New York-bred by Half Ours, had a record of 2-6-3 and earnings of $157,164 from 17 starts for West Point Thoroughbreds and trainer Tom Albertrani.

Cornelio Velasquez, the rider of Laila’s Jazz, was complaining of pain in his left clavicle and went to North Shore University Hospital to be examined. Rodriguez and Serpa were okay with Rodriguez well enough to ride the last race, which was run in darkness.

Through three days of the inner track meet there have now been four racing fatalities. On Wednesday, Princes On Thelake died in a spill in the fifth race. On Thursday, Warrior's Hero suffered a fractured knee and had to be euthanized Thursday night.

[dilanesp]

Have they considered Polytrack? I mean, the inner is supposed to be an all-weather surface, isn't it?

[Cholly]

don't think anyone is blaming the surface for today's tragic incident, which was a chain reaction following one horse clipping heels. Chuck Lopez's horse was disqualified from its placing, and the chart suggests he was substantially at fault.

[Stillriledup]

Have they considered Polytrack? I mean, the inner is supposed to be an all-weather surface, isn't it?

Poly at Belmont instead of 2 turf courses. That's the rumor anyway.

[Augenj]

Poly at Belmont instead of 2 turf courses. That's the rumor anyway.
Man I hope not. 3 different surfaces to handicap. My computer will pop a gut. :D

[alydar]

Every time I see a horse breakdown it makes me sick and feel.very guilty. I really wish we could do something more about it. It is just horrible.

[Stillriledup]

Every time I see a horse breakdown it makes me sick and feel.very guilty. I really wish we could do something more about it. It is just horrible.

You should only feel guilty if there's something you could reasonably do about it but choose not to.

I wish there was something the fans and bettors could do, but i'm not sure what. We need the trainers, on track vets and racing commissions to take care of this stuff and they seems like they don't care enough.

[Tom]

BS article meant to do nothing but cause problems.
N freaking track causes clipped heels.
After reading that, consider the source and file this idiot author under the title of dipstick.

He has nothing to offer.

[Cholly]

BS article meant to do nothing but cause problems.
N freaking track causes clipped heels.
After reading that, consider the source and file this idiot author under the title of dipstick.

He has nothing to offer.


Maybe you could enlighten us as to what exactly is inaccurate in what Grening wrote?

[cj]

Maybe you could enlighten us as to what exactly is inaccurate in what Grening wrote?

Four horses have died, but lumping in the two today with the two others was deceptive at best.

[FantasticDan]

Four horses have died, but lumping in the two today with the two others was deceptive at best.Deceptive in what way? Grening covers the NYRA circuit for DRF. The first three days have seen four horse fatalities and jockey injuries, all of which is completely appropriate to report in detail. What was Grening supposedly doing besides his job?

[Tom]

He misrepresented the two horses clipping heels as being somehow connected the track.

CJ was polite.

[FantasticDan]

He misrepresented the two horses clipping heels as being somehow connected the track.He did? Where? Quote back to me the part where he makes that connection, or any comment whatsoever regarding the track..

[SandyW]

Have they considered Polytrack? I mean, the inner is supposed to be an all-weather surface, isn't it?
Horses do break down on poly track especially when it is a jockey that caused this accident.
If NYRA ever even thinks about poly track they might as well just close down.

[Robert Goren]

From I have been able to gather by reading what Bloodhorse reports. The reason for a poly track would because the AQU inner gets in really bad shape by the end of the meet. It has been mentioned a couple of times, but as far as I can see, it is not happening in the next couple of years. My guess is that they will decide the fate of Aqueduct first before deciding on a poly track.

[Tom]

He did? Where? Quote back to me the part where he makes that connection, or any comment whatsoever regarding the track..

I'm not a grade school reading teacher - if you can't figure it out, I an't help you.

[FantasticDan]

I'm not a grade school reading teacher - if you can't figure it out, I an't help you.Uh-huh. :rolleyes:

You get an F for reading comprehension, and an A for BS.

[Secondbest]

From I have been able to gather by reading what Bloodhorse reports. The reason for a poly track would because the AQU inner gets in really bad shape by the end of the meet. It has been mentioned a couple of times, but as far as I can see, it is not happening in the next couple of years. My guess is that they will decide the fate of Aqueduct first before deciding on a poly track.
I agree.Gov.Cuomo would like to teardown aqu.. And build a hotel and expand the casino. For some reason he he said to dislike racing.If not for upstate farms needing racing he would have done it already.

[Stillriledup]

Why are there 92 Scratches in the 6th race first leg of the late pick 4?

[Shemp Howard]

Something about a horse disease @ FL. Most of the scatches are stabled at FL.

[Stillriledup]

Something about a horse disease @ FL. Most of the scatches are stabled at FL.

Aah, thanks, good point.

[dilanesp]

From I have been able to gather by reading what Bloodhorse reports. The reason for a poly track would because the AQU inner gets in really bad shape by the end of the meet. It has been mentioned a couple of times, but as far as I can see, it is not happening in the next couple of years. My guess is that they will decide the fate of Aqueduct first before deciding on a poly track.

That seems smart. BHP paid $8 million for cushion track-- which was a very good track, one of the best artificial tracks-- just a few years before shutting down. Generally you don't want to do that.