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mostpost

11-21-2014, 11:46 PM

Read it and weep......

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ecc3a300383445d5a90dd6ca764c9e15/house-intel-panel-debunks-many-benghazi-theories
Anyone who paid any attention to any of the investigations at the time, already knew this. I am certain that this report will be no more successful in convincing our conservative friends. They are immune to the facts.

mostpost

11-21-2014, 11:51 PM

They asked for more security. Hillary said no. That's all we need to know......
You even got that wrong. That decision was made by a mid level State Department official influenced by the refusal of a Republican house to fund increased security.

badcompany

11-22-2014, 03:41 AM

These Lib clowns are gonna hold on to this election the way Rambo held on to 'Nam.

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JustRalph

11-22-2014, 04:16 AM

You even got that wrong. That decision was made by a mid level State Department official influenced by the refusal of a Republican house to fund increased security.

Blah blah blah.......

Btw, those mid level junior types got promoted after letting four people die.

The same President and his minions that rode the back of Navy Seals to celebrate getting Bin Ladin, and praised the Seals could give a flying **** that two seals were killed at Benghazi while waiting for help that never came. Democrats face no accountability, ever. It's part and parcel to being someone without core beliefs and values. Ever changing beliefs to suit the moment is why things like Benghazi happen. It's why people like Lois Lerner get to retire with 100k pensions after conducting a war on political enemies. Standard operating procedure for the left. Anything to maintain their grip.

horses4courses

11-22-2014, 10:16 AM

you seem to ignore that fact in favor of politics.

Which is all that conservatives have done since this tragedy occurred.
Nothing new, though, for them to seek political gain from such events.

Tom

11-22-2014, 10:35 AM

Blah blah blah....we are interested in justice, not politics.
Hard for your ilk to understand that lives matter, but they do.

FantasticDan

11-22-2014, 10:42 AM

Democrats face no accountability, ever. It's part and parcel to being someone without core beliefs and values. Ever changing beliefs to suit the moment is why things like Benghazi happen.tMAu2B2Rz20

Rwahi1

11-22-2014, 02:58 PM

We had 61 State department official killed under Reagan and 51 under Bush in 17 embassy attacks....

The least loss of life in the past 40 plus of state department officials has occurred under Obama!

Tom

11-22-2014, 03:15 PM

We had 61 State department official killed under Reagan and 51 under Bush in 17 embassy attacks....

The least loss of life in the past 40 plus of state department officials has occurred under Obama!

How many asked specifically for help and were refused?
How many people went on the Sunday shows and outright lied about those attacks and tried to blame it on a video?
Try to pay attention.

The old liberal shuffle doesn't work around here.
But you could get a job at CNN.

Clocker

11-22-2014, 03:17 PM

We had 61 State department official killed under Reagan and 51 under Bush in 17 embassy attacks....

How many of those did the Reagan or Bush administrations lie about?

FantasticDan

11-22-2014, 04:21 PM

How many of those did the Reagan or Bush administrations lie about?From the original article:The report did not conclude that Rice or any other government official acted in bad faith or intentionally misled the American people.

Tom

11-22-2014, 05:22 PM

From the original article:

The report is obviously wrong.
We KNOW the timeline and we KNOW she lied.
We have video that shows this to be true.
That report is bogus.

horses4courses

11-22-2014, 05:28 PM

The report is obviously wrong.
We KNOW the timeline and we KNOW she lied.
We have video that shows this to be true.
That report is bogus.

You sound like Karl Rove on Fox over the last Ohio presidential results. :lol:

So....you must really be hoping and praying that Hillary runs for the WH.
Your sources can't be wrong, can they?

Tom

11-22-2014, 05:34 PM

Free yourself from ignorance - do a little reading.
They knew watching it live it was not a video protest.
The know it was an organized attack.
The allowed Rice and others to spread the lie for weeks.

Clocker

11-22-2014, 05:48 PM

From the original article:
Quote:
The report did not conclude that Rice or any other government official acted in bad faith or intentionally misled the American people.

And the report does not say that they were innocent of those charges either. The report tip-toes around that issue, and does not directly address it or make a finding. The report specifically says that the process used to generate the talking points was flawed. There is enough evidence in the report to conclude political motivations in the talking points, but the report opted not to make a conclusion either way.

Report (http://intelligence.house.gov/sites/intelligence.house.gov/files/documents/Benghazi%20Report.pdf)

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11-22-2014, 06:10 PM

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JustRalph

11-22-2014, 06:19 PM

Under scrutiny, the report is falling apart

http://twitchy.com/2014/11/22/mollie-hemingway-says-hilarious-benghazi-report-stunning-indictment-of-intel-community/

incoming

11-22-2014, 06:28 PM

Liberals and analogies....do they every make sense. The things they group together trying to make a point is mind boggling. Where do they get their logic from? :confused:

horses4courses

11-22-2014, 06:29 PM

Liberals and analogies....do they every make sense. The things they group together trying to make a point is mind boggling. Where do they get their logic from? :confused:

College professors

Clocker

11-22-2014, 06:33 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzHmoBNIUAExQ6I.jpg

Close, but no cigar.

Cheney was the CEO of Halliburton before resigning to run for VP.

Halliburton got $39 billion in contracts during the war. (Hint: revenue is different than profit)

I believe that the invasion of Iraq was a huge mistake by Bush. I don't believe that the decision was based on oil or Halliburton profits or any other left wing conspiracy theory. It was based on bad judgement, bad intel, and bad faith on the part of Bush and the neo-cons.

None of which has any bearing whatsoever on the mistakes of this administration or the incompetence of this president.

Clocker

11-22-2014, 06:34 PM

College professors

Like Gruber? That explains a lot.

dartman51

11-22-2014, 06:38 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzHmoBNIUAExQ6I.jpg

That, sir, is a LIE. Dick Cheney did NOT profit 39 Billion dollars from the Iraq war. That is your typical DU bullshit, and you eat it up. Wipe your chin. :ThmbUp:

Clocker

11-22-2014, 06:45 PM

Under scrutiny, the report is falling apart

http://twitchy.com/2014/11/22/mollie-hemingway-says-hilarious-benghazi-report-stunning-indictment-of-intel-community/

It is the mainstream media reports about the House report that are falling apart. The House report is very polite and diplomatic, allowing the media to read the conclusions they want into it. But it contains a lot of politely worded land mines too.

HUSKER55

11-22-2014, 07:02 PM

that report on Benghazi is going to fall apart.

Remember, "what does it matter now"? wrong response in that league.

you know it will and the liberal minions around here will swallow it whole.

They asked for more security in advance and were turned down.

WHY?

AT WHAT COST? evidently it was not the lives that were lost. so what was the reason?

you libs are pretty vain. Those people had families and this did not have to happen.

incoming

11-22-2014, 07:23 PM

College professors

Show off ! :lol:

Tom

11-22-2014, 08:03 PM

College professors...those that CAN'T teach.
Probably nothing as useless as a college professor. Other than those who listen to them.

OntheRail

11-22-2014, 11:44 PM

College professors
Like... Kathy Boundin... Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn

60 Radicals Teaching... (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/10/how-1960s-radicals-ended-up-teaching-your-kids.html)

Greyfox

11-23-2014, 01:09 AM

Clocker

11-23-2014, 02:54 AM

Benghazi theories debunked?

Yeah sure.

Somebody explain the attitude that said: "What difference does it make...?

and debunk these facts, which weren't caused by a video about the Prophet Mohammed.

Or explain the parents of Benghazi victims trying to get the truth from the most transparent administration in history.

Parents of two of the four men killed in Benghazi last year testified Thursday before a committee investigating the incident that Obama administration officials have failed to answer questions about the attack despite pledges to keep them informed.

"No one in the government has told me anything," said Patricia Smith, the mother of Sean Smith, whose body was the first one found at the diplomatic compound in Benghazi on Sept. 11, 2012. "Everything I've found, and I mean anything, I found by going on the Internet and asking questions."

"It's been true hell living through this without any answers," Smith said.

Article here. (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/09/19/benghazi-officials-victims-relatives-testify/2835273/)

NJ Stinks

11-23-2014, 03:07 AM

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You would think this would make somebody pause. And think.

If they were ever going to think. :rolleyes:

LottaKash

11-23-2014, 03:07 AM

Like... Kathy Boundin... Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn

60 Radicals Teaching... (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/10/how-1960s-radicals-ended-up-teaching-your-kids.html)

Yikes !... I wonder what they are teaching the young up and comers these days (our future leaders)....Scary chit...

...

HUSKER55

11-23-2014, 08:27 AM

College professors
:D :D

if there was home schooling via the internet I wonder how much corruption would actually occur. I am thinking a lot of the crap would fall by the wayside.

Rwahi1

11-23-2014, 10:17 AM

So the Republican-controlled House of Representatives is now part of the conspiracy?
Chuckle. Its fun hearing that even Republicans don't believe what Republicans say.

Tom

11-23-2014, 12:27 PM

Glad you find those deaths so amusing.

Rwahi1

11-23-2014, 12:59 PM

Four dead at Benghazi.

4,489 Americans dead in Iraq - for a lie.

Does the latter bother you or doesn't that suit your politics?

Greyfox

11-23-2014, 01:29 PM

Four dead at Benghazi.

4,489 Americans dead in Iraq - for a lie.

Does the latter bother you or doesn't that suit your politics?

Both bother me.
But this thread is about Benghazi. It's in Libya the last time I looked.

Clocker

11-23-2014, 01:41 PM

But this thread is about Benghazi. It's in Libya the last time I looked.

It's called deflection, like a 6 year old who gets caught doing wrong. But Mom, Georgie did it first.

incoming

11-23-2014, 03:48 PM

It's called deflection, like a 6 year old who gets caught doing wrong. But Mom, Georgie did it first.

So, this is why liberal analogies never makes any sense. Just one more of their lying tools.

Rwahi1

11-23-2014, 03:51 PM

Sometimes words are not enough...

Rwahi1

11-23-2014, 04:01 PM

And here again...

incoming

11-23-2014, 04:02 PM

Sometimes words are not enough...

I rest my case!!!!

Clocker

11-23-2014, 04:19 PM

Sometimes words are not enough...

Neither are pretty pictures with invalid data. Most sources cite 13 attacks under Bush. Reports vary, but a quick search indicates that 1 or 2 of the dead were US diplomatic personnel, about 10 were American civil contractors, and the rest were locals, generally police or other security.

And how many of those attacks took place when the Democrats had control of one or both houses of Congress? How many investigations did the Democrats initiate? How many times was Bush even accused of lying or covering up about those attacks?

Tom

11-23-2014, 04:19 PM

Speaking lo lies, Obama has quietly extended our combat status in Afghanistan.
He said we would be out.

See the cliff?
Run lemming, run.

Clocker

11-23-2014, 04:23 PM

Speaking lo lies, Obama has quietly extended our combat status in Afghanistan.

Sssh! You aren't supposed to know that. :rolleyes:

Tom

11-23-2014, 04:29 PM

I do believe the immigration BS was timed to cover that on up.
Just as a grand jury verdict will likely come just before the deal with Iran falls apart.

Clocker

11-23-2014, 04:31 PM

Just as a grand jury verdict will likely come just before the deal with Iran falls apart.

Lucky for Obama, he will be long gone by the time the global warming deal with China falls apart.

JustRalph

11-23-2014, 04:39 PM

Those Benghazi commercials in 2016 are being written already.

The 3 a.m. Phone call and Benghazi are going to tie into each other nicely

Clocker

11-23-2014, 04:50 PM

And here again...

Security budgets were cut under a Democratic administration and a Democratic Senate, and it is the Republicans fault? :rolleyes:

Rwahi1

11-23-2014, 05:25 PM

Now, this might be news to a certain segment of the population, but as the AP’s Ken Dilanian notes,the investigation largely replicated the findings of six prior investigations carried out by Congress:

Many of its findings echo those of six previous investigations by various congressional committees and a State Department panel. The eighth Benghazi investigation is being carried out by a House Select Committee appointed in May.

Here’s hoping the eighth, or the ninth, or tenth investigation will finally uncover the truth.

http://gawker.com/gop-committee-agrees-obama-didn-t-****-up-benghazi-1661863432

Tom

11-23-2014, 05:34 PM

And in how many of those were prime participants denied permission for the WH to testify?

The story told by Seals on the ground differs greatly fro that of the State Department.

Who you gonna believe?
Never mind, I already know.

FantasticDan

11-23-2014, 06:03 PM

And in how many of those were prime participants denied permission for the WH to testify?http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2014/11/republicans-finally-admit-there-no-benghazi-scandal
Finally, the Committee found no evidence that any officer was intimidated, wrongly forced to sign a nondisclosure agreement or otherwise kept from speaking to Congress, or polygraphed because of their presence in Benghazi.

Clocker

11-23-2014, 09:27 PM

...no evidence that any officer was intimidated, wrongly forced to sign a nondisclosure agreement or otherwise kept from speaking to Congress

And they all lived happily ever after.

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Rwahi1

11-23-2014, 10:03 PM

And they all lived happily ever after.

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No!...Ha ha! :lol:

Tom

11-23-2014, 10:07 PM

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2014/11/republicans-finally-admit-there-no-benghazi-scandal

Well, guess what?
Not true.

PaceAdvantage

11-24-2014, 02:41 PM

Four dead at Benghazi.

4,489 Americans dead in Iraq - for a lie.

Does the latter bother you or doesn't that suit your politics?A lot of democrats then lied, as well, according to your theory. Men and women privy to the same intelligence reports as the president, so don't tell me they were suckered in by big bad George W. Bush (the IDIOT, as you like to call him).

Once you start posting that Democrats lied about Iraq, then I can take you seriously...but that's right, I forgot...I banned you from off-topic for your despicable reply on another thread. I find it funny that politically correct left-leaners can be SO politically INCORRECT when the moment suits them...