Yonkers Sunday-are you kidding me

[zico20]

Just saw the entries. First 4 races are a mile and a quarter. The are you kidding me comes about in that the first two races have 12 horses in them. Really, a half mile track with 12 horses. How can anybody bet those races. Half the field has no chance and the other half will have horses going for the lead non stop. Only a degenerate gambler will place a bet when there is no clue on how the race will unfold.

[cecil127]

How long are the races in sweeden? How big are their tracks? Definitely worth tuning into IMO....hell, I might even GO!!

[mrroyboy]

I thought the same things when I saw the Sunday card. I urge extreme caution to anyone wanting to bet these races.

[Ray2000]

How long are the races in sweeden? How big are their tracks? Definitely worth tuning into IMO....hell, I might even GO!!


According to this site they race at very short distances....2.14 meters


http://www.swedishhorseracing.com/en/swedish-horse-racing/about-swedish-horse-racing


:lol:

[pandy]

Just saw the entries. First 4 races are a mile and a quarter. The are you kidding me comes about in that the first two races have 12 horses in them. Really, a half mile track with 12 horses. How can anybody bet those races. Half the field has no chance and the other half will have horses going for the lead non stop. Only a degenerate gambler will place a bet when there is no clue on how the race will unfold.


They are trying to appeal to French bettors. I think it may be good, although they should race at a mile and 5/16, start the races all the way to the right in the backstretch so that the horses don't have to leave directly into a turn, which would make the races much better.

[RaceTrackDaddy]

I for one am happy that they are trying something like this. Wednesdays and Saturdays Sweden offers those multiple races (pick 8 on Wed nickle base bet & a Pick-7 dime base bet). Someone mentioned to me that they are exporting this signal to France and who knows, maybe the rest of Europe. Hope they have a small base for the pick 6 (think it will be the first six races, if not in the states, at least overseas).. I have to wonder if this will spread to other tracks if it increases handle?

[pandy]

I agree. The one mile races at Yonkers are pretty boring, anyway.

[cmp92]

I'm intrigued, but I'll just watch this week. Maybe bet next week. The Open trot should be interesting.

[Ray2000]

this is from an old post of mine,
http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66514

when I was trying to parse/convert the pdf programs for the robot.




Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?
a good site for V75 and V64 race betting in Sweden.

Good explanations, Free Programs, Good "how to read the programs", and free past races video

http://www.v75usa.com/

[mrroyboy]

I agree with CMP

[cecil127]

I'm off to yonkas....maybe even see the manaja...I hope he doesn't lol @ my pressed sweat pants...


Watch out for ol cec crashing the winners circle after finding those infamous jiffy pop hats :cool:

See you there!!

[upthecreek]

Don't forget 1st post 11 AM

[baconswitchfarm]

First race was 2-1 over 8-5 in a 11 horse field. Congrats to the French for getting some of this fine product.

[cecil127]

I'm going with 2/9 with 2/9/3 exacta in the fourth.....quite a large turnout :ThmbUp:
Nice prices :)

[cecil127]

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j320/martinsmodified/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20141109_124340970_zps34d79826.jpg (http://s83.photobucket.com/user/martinsmodified/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20141109_124340970_zps34d79826.jpg.html)

Next stop: the winnas circle :cool:
Keep an eye out.....ya neva know where cecil127's gonna show up :p :D

[cecil127]

Lots of peeps split....guess they really liked the big fields. Much easier to waltz right in though :lol:

[cecil127]

The numbers are in and it was a great trotting success (can't bet pacers in France).... Overheard Brennan in the paddock mention somewhere around $60k went to the horsemen....and for that, we thank you France....still not forgiving that airspace/bombin Libya thing but its a start. See y'all next week :cool:

[pandy]

The 5 trot races took in 1.25 Euros in France, which equates to $1.75 million, almost three times more than Yonkers handled on the entire card.

[cecil127]

And with the prices some of those 10/12 horse fields paid I'd guess there will be some folks sending it in (with both hands) next sunday on both sides of the Atlantic :cool:

[baconswitchfarm]

And with the prices some of those 10/12 horse fields paid I'd guess there will be some folks sending it in (with both hands) next sunday on both sides of the Atlantic :cool:

Comingle the cash and I'll get out of bed for this.

[cecil127]

You must sleep late... :lol:

[baconswitchfarm]

You must sleep late... :lol:



Freehold starts at 1230 on Saturday. Cal expo ends at 230 am. Now I have to get home and prepare for balmoral and cal expo on sunday. So now at 5am I can go to bed. I would have to get up by 10 am for 11am Yonkers. If there is 300k in french money per race to go after then I can make the sacrifice. For 12k exacta pools at Yonkers I have to take a pass and get some sleep.

[cecil127]

Freehold starts at 1230 on Saturday. Cal expo ends at 230 am. Now I have to get home and prepare for balmoral and cal expo on sunday. So now at 5am I can go to bed. I would have to get up by 10 am for 11am Yonkers. If there is 300k in french money per race to go after then I can make the sacrifice. For 12k exacta pools at Yonkers I have to take a pass and get some sleep.

Buy the Sunday pp's now....that should give u plenty of time :confused:
Looking forward to Sunday morning action again this week....big fields going a mile and quarter on a half mile track with juicy exotics: I'm there :cool: <---e-cig/vape stick
Jiffy pop hats accepted cecil127 with open arms last week :lol:

[Overcall]

I read YR had a half milion handle, and 1.75 million in Europe. Are they co-mingled?

[pandy]

No.

[thespaah]

According to this site they race at very short distances....2.14 meters


http://www.swedishhorseracing.com/en/swedish-horse-racing/about-swedish-horse-racing


:lol:
2140 meters is 1.32 miles.

[cecil127]

Sounds like a mile and a quarta ta me (in my best yonkas accent)

[Ray2000]

almost a mile and a turd :D

[EdZone]

Ray say is 2.14 Meters Not 2140 Meters
1.329734 Mile = 2140 Meters
1¼ Mile = 2011.68 Meters

[Ray2000]

Using the dot to separate 1000's and a comma for the decimal point always confuses me.

I once tried to convert the Swedish programs to something the robot could use but the times were frustrating also.

2140m

0:36.1____1.14.3____0:37.1___________0:37.0____2:3 8.3

ind first 500 meter time.
ind first 1000 meter time.
ind last 500 meter time.
Winner’s pace time (ave time to trot 500 m.)
Winner’s total time.

[cecil127]

I like 6, 7 with 6, 7, 11 exacta in the opener....hopefully lotsa commas in the payouts today

[cecil127]

Second race leaning towards the 10 & 11...so along with boxing them in the exacta ill take them both to place considering their odds will be somewhat long...

[cecil127]

3rd race....2/5/10 exacta box
You'd think with a 30 hr work week the frenchies could use the extra time off to cap thus needing LESS than 25 min in between races :rolleyes:

Gl all who are playing :ThmbUp:

[pandy]

I thought the third looked tough. In the 4th, I think the ML on the 5 is way off, but that horse looks good in that spot.

[cecil127]

5/7 with5/7/10 exacta in the fourth race...
Ya gotta admit, its not ya typical ( :sleeping: )yonkas racing... :ThmbUp:

[LottaKash]

My hat is off to salute anyone that is willing to tackle the 1 and a 1/4 mile & 12 starters on a half mile track enigma... :jump: :jump: :jump:

It seems that most or even all of my handicapping, speedwise at least, is so reliant on measuring the 1-mile race (only)...

One of the reasons, and for some this is just the opposite, that I quit the T-breds some time ago, is that I just love the symmetry and consistency of the the 1-mile race, vs the challenge of the changing distances and surfaces...It is much easier to see speed and pace patterns for me using the symmetry of 4-individual quarters, represented as whole numbers, as a baseline for measuring a horses particular effort and output vs. those individual whole number splits...

Races that are longer than one mile, just throws a clinker into my handicapping mix, and I become just about clueless trying to make an opinion based on info that just may not work in these longer and contestant laden races...

Not for me...I think I would quit this game first, before I would go searching "again" for something that I already have, and that is bought and paid for, dearly...Just my opinion, is all...

But good luck to those who like that sort of thing....

I am not saying that it is bad for the sport, especially if it brings in more fans and bettors...Just not for me is all..

[cecil127]

Step outside the box, make some $1 exacta boxes (3 horses) and enjoy something a Lil out of the ordinary....or, not :)

My final play on the trotters is an exacta 2/4 with 4/7...bol

[cecil127]

Anyone planning on takin in a few races at yonkas Sunday morning? After a night of Breeders Crown on the big mile, a dozen going a mile and change on a half track might appeal to you.
Looking forward to much action this sat/sun... :cool: :ThmbUp:

[pandy]

I'm not going but I'll be watching. Mile and a quarter harness races right before NFL action and the early double at Aqueduct, love it.

[cecil127]

The yonkas grandstand is so quiet u could here a pin drop....ie: awesome for making final decisions on NFL plays in between the first five race exotics....

[cecil127]

http://www.yonkers-france.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/141123Program.pdf

Here it is....see ya there!

[cecil127]

2/6 exacta box in the fourth.....

I knew the bc crowd would wash up here for a few at the added distance :cool: :ThmbUp:
Melting the odds pushing it through the windows with both hands...you guys are too funny :lol:

[cecil127]

2/6 exacta box in the fourth.....

I knew the bc crowd would wash up here for a few at the added distance :cool: :ThmbUp:
Melting the odds pushing it through the windows with both hands...you guys are too funny :lol:

Maybe we can get another 4/6 exacta (box) in the fifth....this race is minus allards "special sauce" :rolleyes:
can't say I wasn't warned....sharps and their last second wagers clogging up windows with $100 bills :lol:

[EdZone]

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[cecil127]

Toots was flyin late!!!!! :cool:

[EdZone]

I did get the 4/6 Ex in the Race 4 as I did bet Star Photo last week.
However I miss the #4 in Race 5 as I didn't pick the #4.

[EdZone]

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[EdZone]

R9 http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/6h_zpsbd9a41c3.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/6h_zpsbd9a41c3.jpg.html)http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/8h_zpsfcf6c746.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/8h_zpsfcf6c746.jpg.html)/http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/6h_zpsbd9a41c3.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/6h_zpsbd9a41c3.jpg.html)http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/8h_zpsfcf6c746.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/8h_zpsfcf6c746.jpg.html)http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/2h_zps7e38cdc5.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/2h_zps7e38cdc5.jpg.html)http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/edzone2k13/3h_zps0a91b7d9.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/edzone2k13/media/3h_zps0a91b7d9.jpg.html)

Ouch! Didn't use #2 on top as I think it's touch to beat #6 or #8
Ex 2/8 Paid $380.00
Tri 2/8/3 Paid $1,151.00

[EdZone]

Yonkers Nov 30 Sunday program

First 5 race is 1¼ mile

http://www.yonkers-france.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/141130Program.pdf

[pandy]

Yonkers Nov 30 Sunday program

First 5 race is 1¼ mile

http://www.yonkers-france.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/141130Program.pdf


Yes, every Sunday the first 5 races are at that distance, same as the last two Sundays. Also bigger fields.

[cecil127]

Yonkers Nov 30 Sunday program

First 5 race is 1¼ mile

http://www.yonkers-france.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/141130Program.pdf

TY for the pp's
Also: they (first 5 races) are all trotting events as wagering on pacers in france is not permitted...

[mrroyboy]

No pacers in France? That's interesting.

[badcompany]

The 5 trot races took in 1.25 Euros in France, which equates to $1.75 million, almost three times more than Yonkers handled on the entire card.

I'm late to the dance on this thread.

How did the French find out about Yonkers Raceway?

I live about 10 miles south of the place, and no one around here, except me, even knows it exists.

[The Inside Scoop]

Regular mile distance this week, 8 horse fields.