The Democratic Party been infiltrated with marxist, socialist and communist ideology? [Archive] - Horse Racing Forum - PaceAdvantage.Com

FantasticDan

10-22-2014, 12:47 PM

After watching this I have to wonder - many interesting points. Hope and Change, community agitator, bitter half, chicago way, .....The kook responsible for that steaming pile also had this to say about Obama winning in 2014:

“Romney actually won the election on Election Day,” he added. “But because they had stacked the vote through absentee ballots, through dead people, homeless, disabled people, people voting two, three times, I believe that’s how they knew they would win the election.”

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/joel-gilbert-claims-obama-stole-election-nsa-data-letting-disabled-people-vote

Such a rich vein of comedy.. :D :ThmbUp:

HUSKER55

10-22-2014, 01:13 PM

A better national anthem?

:lol: :lol:

GOOD ONE!

Clocker

10-22-2014, 01:21 PM

The Democratic Party been infiltrated with marxist, socialist and communist ideology?

I gave up on the video after about 5 minutes. Badly done and really boring.

As to the thread title, the first issue is that the video is about Obama, not the party. Obama is not the party, but neither Obama nor the Democratic Party are communist. Communism is based on the common (state) ownership of the means of production. Obama is left of the mainstream party, but even he doesn't want that.

Socialist? Definitely, but there are degrees of socialism, and a broad range of belief in the party. Socialism is based on government control of economic and social policies. I think it safe to say that all Democrats and probably a majority of Republicans have some socialist views. It's all a matter of how much government control is appropriate.

As to Marxism, there is a lot of it in Obama, much less in the Democratic Party. The basic elements in Marxism are class conflict and a dialectical materialism that leads inevitably to communism. I'd give Obama about 100% on the class conflict side, very little on the dialectical side. He wants a high degree of socialism, stopping short of communism. And he doesn't see it as inevitable, he sees it as something that must be imposed on the non-believers.

I noticed that the video mentioned the Rev. Jeremiah Wright at the beginning. Wright is a lot more important than Marx in understanding Obama.

Robert Goren

10-22-2014, 01:24 PM

Obama's views have been hiding in plain sight since before he was first elected.
Why it has taken America so long to wake up to his socialist anti-colonial agenda is beyond me.You have hit on one of the key differences between the two parties today almost by mistake. Most democrats are anti-colonialism and most republican are at heart colonialists. There are exceptions in both parties, but this issue does pretty much divide along party lines.

TJDave

10-22-2014, 02:56 PM

the hippie, yippie and yawhoos of the 60's and 70's are the democrats of today.

Actually, they became neo-cons. ;)

Clocker

10-22-2014, 03:07 PM

Actually, they became neo-cons. ;)

Neo-cons :confused:

http://media.salon.com/2012/08/bill_hillary_rect.jpg

ArlJim78

10-22-2014, 04:17 PM

they look like Barry and Robin Gibb of the Bee Gee's in that picture.

PhantomOnTour

10-22-2014, 05:02 PM

Worst
Thread
Ever

-Comic Book Guy

horses4courses

10-22-2014, 05:49 PM

A better national anthem?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Gets my vote for post of the year :ThmbUp:

reckless

10-22-2014, 07:07 PM

Might be because he is articulate.
Oh, and clean.

And, according to Joe Biden, that stupid, racist, plagarist, father of both a drug addict and a corrupt state government official, Obama also smells nice.

Marshall Bennett

10-22-2014, 07:41 PM

the hippie, yippie and yawhoos of the 60's and 70's are the democrats of today.

I was one of those. Then I grew up and saw how dumb it really was.

reckless

10-22-2014, 07:51 PM

I was one of those. Then I grew up and saw how dumb it really was.

Marshall, it's called maturity and as you said, simply growing up. The 1960s re-threads that run our goverment and institutions today never grew up. They still use tired slogans to exploit naive simpletons to advance their bankrupt ideology.

What hasn't changed, sadly, is the left's hatred for the American people and at the American way of life.

Clocker

10-22-2014, 08:52 PM

And, according to Joe Biden Obama also smells nice.

That's primary in a lap dog's attention span.

PhantomOnTour

10-22-2014, 09:01 PM

You guys are hilariously pathetic :lol:

(and I love it) :lol:

Tom

10-22-2014, 09:27 PM

A better national anthem?

09QiZml2PTU

Robert Goren

10-23-2014, 06:19 AM

Marshall, it's called maturity and as you said, simply growing up. The 1960s re-threads that run our goverment and institutions today never grew up. They still use tired slogans to exploit naive simpletons to advance their bankrupt ideology.

What hasn't changed, sadly, is the left's hatred for the American people and at the American way of life.Actually it is the right who hates the American people or at least they hate 47% of them.

Tom

10-23-2014, 07:38 AM

Actually it is the right who hates the American people or at least they hate 47% of them.

Really?
Because we don't want to pay for them?
Your guy are the haters - all you do is try to rob workers of their money.
We are not trying to take anything away fro the 47% - just demand that they EARN what they get.

That is not hate.

reckless

10-23-2014, 10:21 AM

Actually it is the right who hates the American people or at least they hate 47% of them.

The 47 per cent is the slacker, dependent, stupid demographic class that Mitt Romney could never get to vote for him.

If it weren't for the generosity and love of the American people towards the 47 per cent, where would they be?

The American people, especially conservatives like myself, do not 'hate'. The hatred you mention eminates from the left wing of this once-great nation.

Your post above is just another example of such hatred, Robert.

Marshall Bennett

10-23-2014, 12:25 PM

Liberals must indeed hate their country. Just look what they're doing to it. Their intention is to convert it to a welfare state bound by socialism. They've manipulated the 47% into a voting block to insure victory. This will be hard for conservatives to overcome.
Consider that most of them have the morals of a jackal. They don't care about morality or ethics. They therefore don't have America's well being in mind, but instead a burning desire to crush conservatism which they hate even more.
None of this is rocket science. The evidence is everywhere.

Tom

10-23-2014, 12:35 PM

What happens when the 47% is replaced by illegals?
When the dem machine no longer needs them?

When you do not contribute, you are not necessary.

thaskalos

10-23-2014, 02:27 PM

The 47 per cent is the slacker, dependent, stupid demographic class that Mitt Romney could never get to vote for him.

If it weren't for the generosity and love of the American people towards the 47 per cent, where would they be?

If this board is a fair representation of the American people...then that 47% had better not depend on the "generosity and love" that the American people have for them...

BlueShoe

10-23-2014, 02:44 PM

Democratic Party=Liberalism=Progressivism=Socialism=Communism .

Therefore Democratic Party=Communism?

"The goal of Socialism is Communism."
Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

GaryG

10-23-2014, 02:45 PM

If this board is a fair representation of the American people...then that 47% had better not depend on the "generosity and love" that the American people have for them...Just consider it as tough love.

Tom

10-23-2014, 03:03 PM

If this board is a fair representation of the American people...then that 47% had better not depend on the "generosity and love" that the American people have for them...

Why should the 23% of those who REALLY need assistance have to share it with the 24% who do not.

I would increase aid where it is truly needed, but not at the expense of the working man - at the expense of the slugs out there looking for a free ride.
I have no problem at all with helping those who need it. Or with giving a hand to those who fall on hard times - until they can get back on their feet, and pay it back.

Case in point.
Here in Rochester, the homeless were recently forced out of a dowtown parking garage where they had been sleeping at night for a long time. This week, they pitched tents in the Washington Park downtown to protest the removal. This week, police moved in and forced them out of the park.

Which side do you think I am on here?

BlueShoe

10-23-2014, 03:24 PM

In Communist dogma the triumph of the proletariat over the bourgeoisie is emphasized, Lenin mentioned this point several times. In today's America with it's class, race, and gender PC warfare, if you are a white, heterosexual male with a middle, upper middle, or upper income, you are the bourgeoisie, even more so if you are educated, have religeous faith, and are right of center politically. Which party pushes this position??

Clocker

10-23-2014, 03:48 PM

In today's America with it's class, race, and gender PC warfare, if you are a white, heterosexual male with a middle, upper middle, or upper income, you are the bourgeoisie, even more so if you are educated, have religeous faith, and are right of center politically.

You could fit all those guys in the Cowboys new stadium. How the hail are they persecuting all the blacks, Latinos, gays and women in the country? :eek:

reckless

10-23-2014, 04:23 PM

If this board is a fair representation of the American people...then that 47% had better not depend on the "generosity and love" that the American people have for them...

They do depend... and exploit... the generosity of the American taxpayer.

They also buy hook, line and sinker into whatever lies the left wingers and the Democratic Party feeds them. Not to mention the naïve and hateful water carriers of the left's agenda.

It was a left wing drone here that even mentioned the 47%, so please don't forget that.

thaskalos

10-23-2014, 05:06 PM

They do depend... and exploit... the generosity of the American taxpayer.

They also buy hook, line and sinker into whatever lies the left wingers and the Democratic Party feeds them. Not to mention the naïve and hateful water carriers of the left's agenda.

It was a left wing drone here that even mentioned the 47%, so please don't forget that.
All this "left wing/right wing" conversation overshadows the fact that most of us belong somewhere in the middle. You don't have to collect a government check in order to call yourself a "liberal"...nor must you be against abortion and gay rights in order to consider yourself a "conservative". The arguments start when we start painting with broad strokes...and presume to know what one/another is all about, just by the simplistic tags that we label each other with.

Greyfox

10-23-2014, 05:12 PM

HUSKER55

10-23-2014, 06:06 PM

Of coarse you are correct but the sad truth is most of the libs have had that drummed into their heads for so long they don't know what else to do,...nor do they care.

porchy44

10-23-2014, 09:03 PM

The 47 per cent is the slacker, dependent, stupid demographic class that Mitt Romney could never get to vote for him.
.

Listen, I tried to convince Mom of this who paid into Social Security and Medicare for 38 years. She just wouldn't have no part of it.

Actor

10-24-2014, 12:48 AM

A better national anthem?What's wrong with The Star Spangled Banner?

reckless

10-24-2014, 01:23 PM

All this "left wing/right wing" conversation overshadows the fact that most of us belong somewhere in the middle. You don't have to collect a government check in order to call yourself a "liberal"...nor must you be against abortion and gay rights in order to consider yourself a "conservative". The arguments start when we start painting with broad strokes...and presume to know what one/another is all about, just by the simplistic tags that we label each other with.

I don't necessarily agree with you that most of us belong somewhere in the middle, but for the sake of this argument, let's say you are correct, hard to imagine.

Just because you say that people are 'somewhere in the middle', why should someone like myself not have the thoughts and opinions that I have? Why do you think that I must qualify what I say simply to reflect your perspective that one shouldn't paint people with a broad brush.

How I feel about left wingers, Democrats and other anti-Americans has been consistent and unapologethic.

I have found that the majority of people who claim they are 'in the middle', or are 'moderate' or that they simply don't want to 'discuss' the serious issues facing this country, are truly lost and without a moral center. Now, Gus, I know you get off parsing words to present silly arguments, so understand that I do not mean these people are without any morals in the legal and biblical sense. (Exceptions include liberal lions like the criminal Al Gore, the murderer Teddy Kennedy and the syphillic Bill Clinton in the political arena, and a few lefties on this board, who shall remain nameless.)

But, the 'regular' people without a moral compass simply do not stand for anything. And when a person does not stand up for anything, they will lay down for every thing.

Once, again, I remind you that the hatred from the left is where the hatred eminates from. It was a liberal poster on this board that made mention that 'the right hates the 47 %'.

I noticed you didn't correct that poster for his hateful remark, but you did reply to my follow up post. :lol: I also noticed you never pontificate when a left winger paints people with a broad brush, now have you? :rolleyes:

thaskalos

10-24-2014, 04:17 PM

I don't necessarily agree with you that most of us belong somewhere in the middle, but for the sake of this argument, let's say you are correct, hard to imagine.

Just because you say that people are 'somewhere in the middle', why should someone like myself not have the thoughts and opinions that I have? Why do you think that I must qualify what I say simply to reflect your perspective that one shouldn't paint people with a broad brush.

How I feel about left wingers, Democrats and other anti-Americans has been consistent and unapologethic.

I have found that the majority of people who claim they are 'in the middle', or are 'moderate' or that they simply don't want to 'discuss' the serious issues facing this country, are truly lost and without a moral center. Now, Gus, I know you get off parsing words to present silly arguments, so understand that I do not mean these people are without any morals in the legal and biblical sense. (Exceptions include liberal lions like the criminal Al Gore, the murderer Teddy Kennedy and the syphillic Bill Clinton in the political arena, and a few lefties on this board, who shall remain nameless.)

But, the 'regular' people without a moral compass simply do not stand for anything. And when a person does not stand up for anything, they will lay down for every thing.

Once, again, I remind you that the hatred from the left is where the hatred eminates from. It was a liberal poster on this board that made mention that 'the right hates the 47 %'.

I noticed you didn't correct that poster for his hateful remark, but you did reply to my follow up post. :lol: I also noticed you never pontificate when a left winger paints people with a broad brush, now have you? :rolleyes:
I seldom post in the off-topics...because I seldom know where to begin. I disagree with about 90% of the things that get posted in the political threads...no matter which side of the fence the opinions are coming from. And I have voiced my OWN opinion here several times...which anyone, in turn, is free to disagree with. To me...there IS no real difference between all these politicians...no matter WHAT they say. Their empty promises are just a ploy, to show that they are different than the embattled incumbent...so they can get elected themselves. And once they DO get elected...then the empty promises to the gullible citizens go out the window. Now they spend their time pleasing the majority...so they can keep getting RE-ELECTED. This strategy is employed by democrats and republicans alike.

I reply to you because you are the only poster that I've ever seen here who continually posts that the "hatred" in this forum comes exclusively from the left. Everyone else that I've ever seen here acknowledges that the venomous comments here swing both ways...but not you. You only see politeness and civility coming from the right...and, try though I might...I sometimes just can't ignore this advanced level of "myopia".

But I promise to try to do a better job of ignoring you in the future.

johnhannibalsmith

10-24-2014, 04:42 PM

The problem is, when we lost bigmack, everybody got too damn serious all the time.

TJDave

10-24-2014, 05:12 PM

BlueShoe

10-24-2014, 05:27 PM

Correct. There are no "left wing/right wing" political parties. Democrats and republicans are centrist in all but rhetoric.
Vehemently disagree. Because the two parties are so polarized is why there is so much so called gridlock, with neither side willing to compromise and work with those across the aisle.

Robert Goren

10-24-2014, 05:34 PM

What's wrong with The Star Spangled Banner?It is hard to sing. There has been a movement for sometime to replace it with America The Beautiful. It will happen sometime but I am not sure it will happen in my lifetime.

Clocker

10-24-2014, 05:45 PM

Vehemently disagree. Because the two parties are so polarized is why there is so much so called gridlock, with neither side willing to compromise and work with those across the aisle.

The parties are very different on social issues. They talk a good fight about fiscal issues, but in practice, the Democrats are Big Government and the Republicans are Big Government Lite.

Robert Goren

10-24-2014, 05:54 PM

Vehemently disagree. Because the two parties are so polarized is why there is so much so called gridlock, with neither side willing to compromise and work with those across the aisle. On this we agree. Obama has polarized the country. GOP politicians are scared to deal with him and Democratic politicians are scared to buck him. In this part of the country, being soft on Obama is worse than being soft on communism was. I am sure there are parts of the country where the tea party is considered the same as being as NAZI. The country will move closer together like it did after FDR died. But it will take a change in the leadership in both parties and a uniting figure like Ike and maybe a new uniting cause like the Cold War and a few years for it to happen . That uniting figure is not prominent yet.

Greyfox

10-24-2014, 06:33 PM

It is hard to sing..

Really? :rolleyes:
Has a nation become so ignorant and illiterate that the Star Spangled Banner is difficult to sing?
I know 7 year olds who can sing it.

fast4522

10-24-2014, 07:01 PM

Marxist, socialist and communist ideology's are learned behavior that 7 year old's are not plagued with. Young and beautiful are children of that age who have yet to acquire head problems singing so grandly about America.

Capper Al

10-24-2014, 07:09 PM

Robert Goren

10-24-2014, 08:00 PM

Really? :rolleyes:
Has a nation become so ignorant and illiterate that the Star Spangled Banner is difficult to sing?
I know 7 year olds who can sing it. It requires a pretty good range to hit the high notes. Anybody, even me, can mouth the words, but it takes a very good singer to sing it as it appears on the sheet music. Those high notes are a killer. Try it sometime and you see what I mean. Changing the National Anthem has nothing to do with patriotism or politics. It has to do with picking one that more people can sing correctly or just plain prefer. In case you did not know it , before 1931 several other songs including "My Country, Tis of Thee" served as the Nation Anthem at official gatherings. If I had my way "God Bless America" or "This Land is My Land" would become the National Anthem. But I am not going to get my way on this one.

reckless

10-24-2014, 08:05 PM

. . .

I reply to you because you are the only poster that I've ever seen here who continually posts that the "hatred" in this forum comes exclusively from the left.

I guess you really do not visit the OT-General too often for if you did, even a closed mind as yours just might have noticed some of your left wing friend's comments towards conservatives.

Everyone else that I've ever seen here acknowledges that the venomous comments here swing both ways...but not you. You only see politeness and civility coming from the right...and, try though I might...I sometimes just can't ignore this advanced level of "myopia".

Actually, my conservative friends regularly conduct themselves with more civility and politeness than our liberal friends. And, conservatives in the public arena are decidedly more civil than those left wing haters, but I guess you haven't noticed that either.

But I promise to try to do a better job of ignoring you in the future.

Promises, promises, promises ... or is that too impolite??

thaskalos

10-24-2014, 08:37 PM

I guess you really do not visit the OT-General too often for if you did, even a closed mind as yours just might have noticed some of your left wing friend's comments towards conservatives.

Actually, my conservative friends regularly conduct themselves with more civility and politeness than our liberal friends. And, conservatives in the public arena are decidedly more civil than those left wing haters, but I guess you haven't noticed that either.

Promises, promises, promises ... or is that too impolite??
I never said that I haven't noticed some of my "left wing friends" here making vitriolic comments towards the conservatives. I said that the venom here flows both ways. And if you think that the hatred here is strictly one-sided...then I have a proposition for you -- since we both seem to have a little extra time on our hands:

You present a prior hateful comment from a liberal here...and I'll counter that by presenting one from a conservative. Whoever runs out of ammunition first, promises to leave this site for good. I expect a good former newspaperman like yourself to recognize a no-lose situation...and jump on it. :rolleyes:

Robert Goren

10-24-2014, 08:55 PM

Actually, my conservative friends regularly conduct themselves with more civility and politeness than our liberal friends. And, conservatives in the public arena are decidedly more civil than those left wing haters, but I guess you haven't noticed that either.Pre Obama that was the case, but not anymore. Even before that, the right wing fringe over took the left wing fringe groups in the killings of policemen for political reasons and political figures after the Vietnam War.

ReplayRandall

10-24-2014, 09:06 PM

Pre Obama that was the case, but not anymore. Even before that, the right wing fringe over took the left wing fringe groups in the killings of policemen for political reasons and political figures after the Vietnam War.

Go ahead Robert, I'll take the bait. Give us a few examples, if you have the time......

JustRalph

10-24-2014, 09:08 PM

Go ahead Robert, I'll take the bait. Give us a few examples, if you have the time......

great call...............

Robert Goren

10-24-2014, 09:29 PM

Go ahead Robert, I'll take the bait. Give us a few examples, if you have the time......You can start with the killing of 2 state police officers in PA by a survivalist and two police officers in NV last summer by a White separatist couple. The NV couple left a rambling manifesto. Don't they all?:rolleyes: I do not believe the PA killer has been caught although he has been publicly identified.

reckless

10-24-2014, 10:15 PM

I expect a good former newspaperman like yourself to recognize a no-lose situation...and jump on it. :rolleyes:

You are so obsessed with a prior career of mine in the print game that it is laughable. You think about it a helluva lot more than I ever did, I assure you.

But, per your offer, I'll defer to a lesson my late Dad taught me many, many years ago---never educate an idiot.

So, like Illinois icon A. Lincoln once did to Vanlandingham -- the politician, and not the horse -- I banish you. :jump: :jump:

mostpost

10-24-2014, 10:50 PM

I never said that I haven't noticed some of my "left wing friends" here making vitriolic comments towards the conservatives. I said that the venom here flows both ways. And if you think that the hatred here is strictly one-sided...then I have a proposition for you -- since we both seem to have a little extra time on our hands:

You present a prior hateful comment from a liberal here...and I'll counter that by presenting one from a conservative. Whoever runs out of ammunition first, promises to leave this site for good. I expect a good former newspaperman like yourself to recognize a no-lose situation...and jump on it. :rolleyes:
Reckless has declined your challenge. Too bad, we could have gotten rid of him.

Since there a lot more posts by cons than libs, the outcome was a foregone conclusion. In this thread alone there were 40 posts by conservatives and 16 by liberals. I counted you as a liberal even though you are middle of the road.

Tom

10-24-2014, 10:52 PM

That uniting figure is not prominent yet.

There is no figure that will convince me to unite with scumbags like Reid and Pelosi. It is not wrong to hate and seek to destroy when garbage deserved it.
The democrat parry deserves it. What we need is someone to fire up the TP and go for the jugular.

Compromise is losing.

mostpost

10-24-2014, 11:02 PM

You are so obsessed with a prior career of mine in the print game that it is laughable. You think about it a helluva lot more than I ever did, I assure you.

But, per your offer, I'll defer to a lesson my late Dad taught me many, many years ago---never educate an idiot.

So, like Illinois icon A. Lincoln once did to Vanlandingham -- the politician, and not the horse -- I banish you. :jump: :jump:
What is it with you conservatives and your refusal to acknowledge your prior occupations. Clocker doesn't want to talk about his time as an economics teacher. You are embarrassed to have been a newspaperman, or so it seems.

On the other hand, us libs are proud of our occupations. I worked for the Post Office and am fine with anyone knowing it. Robert Goren has talked about his jobs many times. We know NJ Stinks worked for the IRS.

You just called Thaskalos an idiot. I eagerly await Clocker's outrage at this. Funny, all I hear are crickets.

Tom

10-24-2014, 11:08 PM

On the other hand, us libs are proud of our occupations.

WE libs).
Remove the descriptive word libs and your sentence reads Us libs are proud of our occupations.

Are you proud of your educations, too)?

When yo guys finish rewriting history, will the Declaration of Independence say "Us, the people.......)?

The age-old question, guns or butter had evolved into balls or brains?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

ReplayRandall

10-24-2014, 11:31 PM

You can start with the killing of 2 state police officers in PA by a survivalist and two police officers in NV last summer by a White separatist couple. The NV couple left a rambling manifesto. Don't they all?:rolleyes: I do not believe the PA killer has been caught although he has been publicly identified.

Curious, why didn't you bring up Timothy McVeigh or the mysterious death of Ron Brown? How about the Janet Reno led siege on Waco?

Clocker

10-25-2014, 12:06 AM

What is it with you conservatives and your refusal to acknowledge your prior occupations. Clocker doesn't want to talk about his time as an economics teacher. You are embarrassed to have been a newspaperman, or so it seems.

What is it with you stalking me, recording and recounting my every move like you were a cop tailing a suspect? Are you charting my bowel movements? My food intake? My alcohol consumption? (I am drinking a Sam Adams at the moment, in case you feel compelled to record that in your diary.)

My past life is none of your business. If you want to discuss issues, stick to the content of the posts here. It is only when you can't address the content that you stoop to prying, hoping to find personal details that will somehow discredit the content. I have never said a word about your private life, and I would expect a mature adult to return the courtesy. So much for that assumption.

My posts stand on their own merit, and are based on fact. I have never posted anything false here, because I have nothing to gain by doing so, and my own self esteem to lose otherwise. And frankly I don't give a rat's patoot about your opinion of me, I am just curious about how a prejudiced, paranoid mind works. Your attitude and actions are alien to civil discourse and you stir my morbid curiosity. It is beyond my comprehension how anyone can get so incensed and obsessive about an unknown entity on an internet site. And so paranoid to conclude that anyone that doesn't think the way you do must be lying. Inquiring minds want to know.

johnhannibalsmith

10-25-2014, 12:13 AM

Hard to believe we can have non-stop discussions about the politics of politics and it is a mystery. It's just like everything else from him lately. Straight out of the textbook. Watch ten minutes of the "news" stations or hell, even our President's speeches and a gratuitous House rebuttal from outside chambers. Issue be damned, make an issue of the people on the other side of the issue.

mostpost

10-25-2014, 01:05 AM

What is it with you stalking me, recording and recounting my every move like you were a cop tailing a suspect? Are you charting my bowel movements? My food intake? My alcohol consumption? (I am drinking a Sam Adams at the moment, in case you feel compelled to record that in your diary.)

My past life is none of your business. If you want to discuss issues, stick to the content of the posts here. It is only when you can't address the content that you stoop to prying, hoping to find personal details that will somehow discredit the content. I have never said a word about your private life, and I would expect a mature adult to return the courtesy. So much for that assumption.

My posts stand on their own merit, and are based on fact. I have never posted anything false here, because I have nothing to gain by doing so, and my own self esteem to lose otherwise. And frankly I don't give a rat's patoot about your opinion of me, I am just curious about how a prejudiced, paranoid mind works. Your attitude and actions are alien to civil discourse and you stir my morbid curiosity. It is beyond my comprehension how anyone can get so incensed and obsessive about an unknown entity on an internet site. And so paranoid to conclude that anyone that doesn't think the way you do must be lying. Inquiring minds want to know.
Paranoid? It seems that a paranoid person would be the one who wants no one to know even the general details of his life. Anyone who cares to take the time to look can find out where I live-city and state-where I went to school; where I worked and other things about me.

I share these things because they explain who I am and why I believe what I do. You, on the other hand, are upset with me for talking about personal items that you yourself posted.

I have met a number of people who post here in person. Some of them such as Stuball, Illinoisbred, and Go for Gin rarely if ever post in Off Topic. Others like JD Hanover, Wisconsin, Capper Al and Arljim78 post here occasionally or frequently. I invite them or anyone I have met at the Arlington Park outings to post here and tell me if I am prejudiced, paranoid, obsessive, incensed, lack a sense of humor, seem to be a stalker, or have any of the negative traits you are so fond of labeling me with.

Who from this forum knows you personally? Oh! So Sorry!! Didn't mean to stalk you! :eek:

mostpost

10-25-2014, 02:06 AM

WE libs).
Remove the descriptive word libs and your sentence reads Us libs are proud of our occupations.

Are you proud of your educations, too)?

When yo guys finish rewriting history, will the Declaration of Independence say "Us, the people.......)?

The age-old question, guns or butter had evolved into balls or brains?

:lol: :lol: :lol:
You are right. It should be "We" not "Us."
But occupations is correct because we out talking about the various occupations of several libs.

Clocker

10-25-2014, 03:25 AM

Who from this forum knows you personally? Oh! So Sorry!! Didn't mean to stalk you! :eek:

You don't care about that, you use it to distract from your inability to address the issues. And you don't even do it intelligently.

In two posts today, first you called me a liar for claiming that I had ever taught economics at the university level, and then you called me out as being secretive for refusing to share any details about that experience that I didn't have. :rolleyes:

Where and when and how I taught economics has no bearing on the validity of my comments on the reality of economics and the failure of our government's economic policy, on both sides of the aisle. But you cannot refute the content, so you launch a personal attack, as usual.

BlueShoe

10-25-2014, 08:17 AM

Warning Nazis on the loose here talking about communist mixing them up with democrats. They can't tell them apart because they are so blinded with their hate and anger. (Plus these Nazis are just plain cheap and don't want to pay for anything that society needs.)
It has been said before, but once again for the record, Nazism is far left, not far right. That Political Science 101 course taught in every liberal university by a far left professor gets it wrong. Communism and Nazism are different branches of totalitarianism. The Nazis were and are, national socialists. If there is anything more anathema to modern day conservatives than socialism let us know what it is.

Robert Goren

10-25-2014, 08:48 AM

Curious, why didn't you bring up Timothy McVeigh or the mysterious death of Ron Brown? How about the Janet Reno led siege on Waco?You asked for a few examples, I gave you two clear cut ones that have not been discussed here much. I thought about bringing up the OK city bombing where many Federal law enforcement were killed to add a bit of history. I do not consider Waco and the killing of Ron Brown political in nature. There were several political motivated killing this summer. All were done by crazies on the right wing fringe that most members of the right denounce. They just don't denounce them with same vigor as they would if it was done by a left wing crazy. I would welcome any post outlining politically motivated cop killings by left wing crazies. Let the Google searches begin.

Robert Goren

10-25-2014, 09:54 AM

JustRalph

10-25-2014, 10:05 AM

While the killing of Ron Brown was not political, the riots that followed were at least partially politically motivated. The killing of Ron Brown may or may not had race play a part in it. That is yet to be determined. Not all racial killings are political, but some are. Just wanted to make that clear.

What the hell are u talking about?

reckless

10-25-2014, 10:08 AM

Reckless has declined your challenge. Too bad, we could have gotten rid of him.

Getting rid of me? Based on a silly exercise suggested by an even sillier poster?

This dream of yours could never happen simply because a phony, ill-informed, hateful liberal troll such as yourself could never win an argument with me (nor against my conservative, patriotic and smarter friends here).

ReplayRandall

10-25-2014, 11:00 AM

Tom

10-25-2014, 11:12 AM

Don't forget Vinny F.

As Hillary says, "At this point, what difference does it make?"

Lots of people seem die during around the Clinton's. And they never care about them.

mostpost

10-25-2014, 03:52 PM

What the hell are u talking about?
I think RG is confusing Ron Brown, who died in a plane crash in the Clinton Administration with Mike Brown who was shot in Ferguson. Of course the idea of a conspiracy in the death of Ron Brown is nonsense.

PaceAdvantage

10-25-2014, 04:09 PM

Yes, because everyone dies under legitimate and legal circumstances...it's a wonder why we need to employ detectives and cold case units in this country... :lol:

TJDave

10-25-2014, 05:08 PM

It has been said before, but once again for the record, Nazism is far left, not far right. That Political Science 101 course taught in every liberal university by a far left professor gets it wrong. Communism and Nazism are different branches of totalitarianism. The Nazis were and are, national socialists. If there is anything more anathema to modern day conservatives than socialism let us know what it is.

Nonsense. The Nazis called themselves socialists and portrayed themselves politically as leftists. It was a ruse. They were fascists.

Communism, although in theory is leftist was never practiced in the Soviet Union. Again, a ruse.

Had either been true to their stated principles you might have a point.

BlueShoe

10-31-2014, 02:14 PM

Nonsense. The Nazis called themselves socialists and portrayed themselves politically as leftists. It was a ruse. They were fascists.

Communism, although in theory is leftist was never practiced in the Soviet Union. Again, a ruse.

Had either been true to their stated principles you might have a point.
Sorry, but sticking to my opinion. Both Nazism and Communism are facist, totalitarian systems. In WW II the brutal war between the two might be likened to two criminal gangs slugging it out for control.

The claim that communism, in it's purest form was never practiced in the USSR is what got Leon Trotsky exiled and eventually killed. Even today there are still a few old line Trots hanging around preaching their theory of perpetual revolution and class struggle. Even CP members consider Trots to be crazy and mostly shun them. The ChiComs under Mao were also fond of tossing claims of revisionism at the Soviets.

Any form of political system, whatever the name might be, that suppresses the rights and freedoms of it's citizens, while imposing an all powerful government, is leftist, not right wing. Facism is not right wing, it is left wing, regardless of what the PolySci professors have told you. Liberal facism is very much alive and well, and we are seeing an example right here in the USA as an ever more controlling government gradually dictates how we live our lives.