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Bigadam119
10-16-2014, 08:22 PM
If you had the odds on favorite in the Derby and for the triple crown.

I would have to go with John Velazquez with Mike Smith a close second.
dirty moose
10-16-2014, 08:26 PM
Can I vote no jock?
appistappis
10-16-2014, 08:50 PM
the one who was riding him to get there.
jk3521
10-16-2014, 09:15 PM
If you had the odds on favorite in the Derby and for the triple crown.

I would have to go with John Velazquez with Mike Smith a close second.
Both have the reputation which makes owners and trainers seek them out.
ReplayRandall
10-16-2014, 09:22 PM
If you had the odds on favorite in the Derby and for the triple crown.

I would have to go with John Velazquez with Mike Smith a close second.


Since we're dealing with a question in the future, the future Triple crown winning jock at Belmont Park is Irad Ortiz, Jr.
letswastemoney
10-16-2014, 09:26 PM
It should depend on the running style.

Need the lead type - Mike Smith, Paco Lopez

Mid-pack - A lot fit into this category...I'll just pick Javier Castellano?

Deep closer - Julien Leparoux, Jose Lezcano, Calvin Borel since it's Churchill
johnhannibalsmith
10-16-2014, 09:38 PM
Aki Kato
horses4courses
10-16-2014, 09:49 PM
Victor Espinoza....especially at Belmont
Mineshaft
10-16-2014, 11:50 PM
i wouldnt ride Leparoux on a stick pony.
lamboguy
10-17-2014, 07:52 AM
i would have to go with Elvis Tujillio, Paco Lopez, Javier Castellano and Joel Rosario.

my top pick would be Joel Rosario.
onefast99
10-17-2014, 08:51 AM
i would have to go with Elvis Tujillio, Paco Lopez, Javier Castellano and Joel Rosario.

my top pick would be Joel Rosario.
You would want the rider who has the most experience in that type of race. Turf riders are a rarity Paco is a solid turf rider so is Rosario. Castellano is ok also. Elvis is riding well out west and I like him on both surfaces. My go to rider would be Paco, he lets you know after the race what he feels about your horse and isn't afraid to tell you whether he will or won't ride your horse again.
chadk66
10-17-2014, 09:15 AM
Mike Smith rode horses for me when he was very early in his career. He is as honest as the day is long. And that's all I could ask of a jock in the big races is give me 100%. Of course it doesn't hurt he has a ton of talent.
Robert Fischer
10-17-2014, 10:28 AM
Javier Castellano

If he's not the best, he's in the room.

He rides tactical favorites for a living, and he also knows how time a run from off the pace.
Tall One
10-17-2014, 10:50 AM
SRU and it's not even close...:cool:

Castellano or Rosario in that order. The Ortiz boys will get in that Derby/TC limelight soon.
Bigadam119
10-17-2014, 11:21 AM
Nothing for Johnny V??? He's been winning big races for some time now.
horses4courses
10-17-2014, 11:58 AM
This thread is very subjective and proves little.

There are at least 20-30 jocks who, on any given day,
will get the business done very nicely for you.
It's all about the horse.

Thing is, you can list the flavors of the month,
and they can be as good, or as bad, as many others.
They are all human.

There's a tendency for a lot of bettors to favor
those that they have cashed big on.

That's a good thing, but there's no guarantee
that it will help you tomorrow.
GMB@BP
10-17-2014, 12:24 PM
There is no right answer in a thread like this.

I will say though that the pressure in those big races is real, dealing with it is not just random luck, some people in many sports seem to deal, almost thrive, in the biggest pressure situations and raise their performance. That is the guy you want I suppose if there is a answer to this thread.
The Inside Scoop
10-17-2014, 12:48 PM
Javier Castellano with Joel Rosario a close second. Both are very strong when it counts, in deep stretch.
jballscalls
10-17-2014, 01:20 PM
Aki Kato

Aki the Jockey! I think he has a business making flak jackets for riders now.

I'd go with Russell Baze!
johnhannibalsmith
10-17-2014, 01:45 PM
Aki the Jockey! I think he has a business making flak jackets for riders now.

...

Yup, he's the ultimate entrepreneur - tack, racing attire, bloodstock, you name it - but he's still winning races too. Not often, but he unfortunately doesn't get a lot of 'outside' business with 50 other riders three or more decades younger all around. As old as he is, he can still hang with them when he's mounted and passed number 2,000 in wins a couple years ago. Might as well make the NBC telecast worth watching if I've got to be on television.
rastajenk
10-17-2014, 02:27 PM
the one who was riding him to get there.That would be my answer too. In my case, I were fortunate enough to be such a position, I would have got there by giving a chance to an old guy like Perry Ouzts that deserves a chance, or Lori Wydick, or a local youngster like Megan Fadlovich or Ben Creed. When Rosie N. made it to a Derby, she became a storyline. I would like my jock to be a storyline too.
johnhannibalsmith
10-17-2014, 02:39 PM
That would be my answer too. In my case, I were fortunate enough to be such a position, I would have got there by giving a chance to an old guy like Perry Ouzts that deserves a chance, or Lori Wydick, or a local youngster like Megan Fadlovich or Ben Creed. When Rosie N. made it to a Derby, she became a storyline. I would like my jock to be a storyline too.

:ThmbUp:

No doubt.
deathandgravity
10-17-2014, 03:21 PM
Aki Kato

Holy S**t... I remember Aki from my misspent youth @ TUP.

Cool he is still around :)
Bigadam119
10-17-2014, 04:14 PM
I don't think I was trying to prove anything with the thread. I created it because I was watching a replay of the 2005 Kentucky derby and it seems like Afleet Alex wasn't running straight in the deep stretch. It got me thinking that maybe if he have had a top jockey he would have won the TC. I know he wasn't the odds on favorite but he was the best horse.
Shelby
10-17-2014, 06:22 PM
Calvin Borel.
GMB@BP
10-18-2014, 07:33 PM
Calvin Borel.

All three races are not being run at CD though.
porchy44
10-18-2014, 10:17 PM
Javier Castellano

If he's not the best, he's in the room.

He rides tactical favorites for a living, and he also knows how time a run from off the pace.

If he's not the best of all time, he's in the room.
BMustang
10-18-2014, 11:32 PM
Not Ronnie Franklin, nor Stuart Elliot!!!
Robert Fischer
10-19-2014, 12:03 AM
If he's not the best of all time, he's in the room.

:eek: high praise
Shelby
10-19-2014, 09:22 AM
All three races are not being run at CD though.

I know. But, the question was which jockey would I choose and I'd choose to win the Kentucky Derby first. :) Then I'd worry about future races.
Grits
10-19-2014, 11:34 AM
Afleet Alex ran hard throughout the Derby. Giacomo ran at the end of it. However, the more interesting question could be asked two weeks later. Could "a top" jockey have remained on him, recovered, and still won?

Jeremy Rose knew his horse. He rode him well from Arkansas to New York.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfB37Lpb_7Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FANbo8JiNRc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfFzODoD7YY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfZoo4_kESY