Shady Ex Payoff at Red Mile Race 10

[The Inside Scoop]

Winner paid $214, ex pays $254 with 11-1 second. 12 grand in ex pool. Someone will be looking into it. The ex onto the 4/5 shot (5) was paying $1,162 and $271 with the 2-1 shot (4) second choice. Someone bell bet to be sure as the 8 blasted out of there and the 1,2 left as well with the 5 being off the gait. The 1-8 ex was coming back $247.

[lamboguy]

The Red Mile is the home for the most notorious harness after the bell bettors in the world. someone had to nail this one for a $5 or $10 exacta because there is only about $10,000 in the pool. but the longer these race tracks allow the after the bell, the lower those pools will go.

what i can't believe is that everyone and their brother's here complain about normal takeout that should be a couple of points less. no one complains about the amount of money coming in and out of pools after the races start to make the normal takeout look like chump change.

its no different in thoroughbred's other than i have no clue where the after the bell takes place.

i know there is after the bell and try to place my money on the horses that the break players won't have.

[The Inside Scoop]

If the Red Mile had a 20% takeout on exactors.

The exactor pool for that race was $12,190.
At 20% takeout they would pay out $9,752
At 20% takeout there would have been approximately $76 in winning tickets played on the 8-1 exactor.
Someone scooped pretty much the entire pool by bell betting the race.

[badcompany]

The shady payout at Yonkers, which inspired a thread, here, was a result of a late bet made at Red Mile.

This one is even worse. That exacta should pay about 2k.

[badcompany]

This is the worst one I've ever seen.

No one had the triple, and the exacta only pays $250!


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[baconswitchfarm]

There was 10,800 in the exacta. The horse was an underpayment with half the field. 8-4 was paying 270 . If only 8-1 was low then I would agree. With the 8 over half the field paying low the owner could have bet a 50 exacta over 4 horses and made it pay this bad. Anytime a 50 exacta can take down over half a pool then the pools are too small to determine what happened.


By the way, exacta takeout there is 25%.

[badcompany]

There was 10,800 in the exacta. The horse was an underpayment with half the field. 8-4 was paying 270 . If only 8-1 was low then I would agree. With the 8 over half the field paying low the owner could have bet a 50 exacta over 4 horses and made it pay this bad. Anytime a 50 exacta can take down over half a pool then the pools are too small to determine what happened.


By the way, exacta takeout there is 25%.

1-8 was paying low, too.

If the owner wanted to make money betting his horse, why not a win bet at 99-1, as opposed to spreading the money out in exactas and possibly getting nothing?

It seems like the speed numbers got the money, as was the case in the suspicious Yonkers race.

[The Inside Scoop]

My Canadian account said there was $12,190 in the ex pool. Might be the exchange rate.

From my end, the bet was a bell bet on who was leaving.

[baconswitchfarm]

1-8 was paying low, too.

If the owner wanted to make money betting his horse, why not a win bet at 99-1, as opposed to spreading the money out in exactas and possibly getting nothing?

It seems like the speed numbers got the money, as was the case in the suspicious Yonkers race.


The race at Yonkers, only the two horse combination was light. This race many combinations that weren't the line up were light. 8-2 8-4 and 8-6 were also way less than the parlay and they didn't line up. Not to mention even though the 1 horse was 11-1, he had the rail, worlds leading trot trainer, and hottest driver in the world. This situation is far from as shady as the Yonkers fiasco.

[baconswitchfarm]

My Canadian account said there was $12,190 in the ex pool. Might be the exchange rate.

From my end, the bet was a bell bet on who was leaving.
Must be the exchange. Red mile sight said 10,800.

[The Inside Scoop]

Yeah pretty sure it was the exchange.

If a guy wants to fire in bets at the bell on whose leaving, then he will get rewarded once in a while. Makes a lot more sense to me to do this when betting a half or a 5/8ths, but then again, its their money and they can gamble the way they choose. I can assure you that the bet made today was a last second one.

On a footnote the horse that won didn't actually race that bad last week against the 2 as he trotted home ok from 3rd up. Should not have paid what he did to win. Still should have been a longshot but not that high.

[Sea Biscuit]

My Canadian account said there was $12,190 in the ex pool. Might be the exchange rate.

From my end, the bet was a bell bet on who was leaving.

Didn't know horses leaving end up in the exacta.:confused: