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JustRalph
09-05-2014, 01:14 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/mitt-romney-the-world-needs-a-mighty-us-military/2014/09/04/f5234064-342d-11e4-a723-fa3895a25d02_story.html

Mitt gets it right.

How this guy was beaten by the flaccid sack of shit in the White House is a testament to our broken process

TJDave
09-05-2014, 02:02 AM
How this guy was beaten by the flaccid sack of shit in the White House is a testament to our broken process

Mitt was beaten by the flaccid sack of shit in the White House because He believes in this sack of shit. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGFAph3lWqw

Actor
09-05-2014, 04:44 AM
Mitt was beaten by the flaccid sack of shit in the White House because He believes in this sack of shit. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGFAph3lWqw :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

cj's dad
09-05-2014, 05:18 AM
It's in a cartoon, it must be true. Just like the Simpsons.

:lol:

hcap
09-05-2014, 09:35 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/mitt-romney-the-world-needs-a-mighty-us-military/2014/09/04/f5234064-342d-11e4-a723-fa3895a25d02_story.html

Mitt gets it right.

How this guy was beaten by the flaccid sack of shit in the White House is a testament to our broken processAccording to UnskewedPolls.com, and Karl Rove Mitt never lost. And sacks of shit never ever win two presidential terms and John Galt rules forever :lol: :lol:

PaceAdvantage
09-05-2014, 09:58 AM
And sacks of shit never ever win two presidential terms I had no idea your opinion of former President Bush has changed so considerably... :lol:

PaceAdvantage
09-05-2014, 09:59 AM
Mitt was beaten by the flaccid sack of shit in the White House because He believes in this sack of shit. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGFAph3lWqwAlthough I've agreed with you much lately in off-topic, on this point, I think you're absolutely and totally wrong.

I don't think his Mormon background had any significant effect on the amount of votes he received vs. Obama.

hcap
09-05-2014, 10:06 AM
I had no idea your opinion of former President Bush has changed so considerably... :lol:Called him a village idioy, but never a sack of shit.

But now that you mentioned is...........

Tom
09-05-2014, 10:38 AM
Obama sure has shown Bush how to handle the middle East.
Can't fault his stellar leadership these days.
Why, he is so popular around the world, they are begging him not to go on vacation because they would miss his strong guidence.



:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

classhandicapper
09-05-2014, 12:12 PM
I don't agree with Mitt on everything, but he's intelligent, experienced in politics at a high level, highly competent in business/economics, understands markets, has a realistic view of the differences in cultures/countries and how that could lead to conflict etc...

He was one of the most competent and qualified candidates we've had an opportunity to vote for in recent years. He was also uniquely qualified to handle the most important long term issue facing us which is the budget, fast entitlement growth, debt, etc...

That he lost to the biggest delusional nitwit in US history was catastrophic.

AndyC
09-05-2014, 12:32 PM
Although I've agreed with you much lately in off-topic, on this point, I think you're absolutely and totally wrong.

I don't think his Mormon background had any significant effect on the amount of votes he received vs. Obama.

I used to think that as well but I have been shocked as to how many people didn't vote for that very reason.

Robert Goren
09-05-2014, 12:55 PM
Mitt lost on merit. I stated before the election and still believe Obama could have beaten if the GOP had put up a good candidate. They have come with somebody who actually won their last general election. Romney had lost his last by 17 points, so wasn't a shock when he lost again.

classhandicapper
09-05-2014, 01:12 PM
Mitt lost on merit. I stated before the election and still believe Obama could have beaten if the GOP had put up a good candidate. They have come with somebody who actually won their last general election. Romney had lost his last by 17 points, so wasn't a shock when he lost again.

What election did he lose after he was governor other than the presidential?

PaceAdvantage
09-05-2014, 01:18 PM
I used to think that as well but I have been shocked as to how many people didn't vote for that very reason.Who knew that religious bias was greater than skin color bias in this country then...to listen to the media, this country is nothing but one giant racist nation...yet it elects a black man over a Mormon?

Somebody in the media isn't telling the truth...what a shocker. :rolleyes:

Clocker
09-05-2014, 01:29 PM
I'd guess that the number of idiots that wouldn't vote for a Mormon was offset by the number of idiots that wouldn't vote for a black.

Romney didn't lose the election because he was a Mormon, he lost it because he wasn't a good candidate. Romney was the steak in the race, and Obama was the sizzle. You don't sell the steak, you sell the sizzle, especially to low information voters.

AndyC
09-05-2014, 01:52 PM
Mitt lost on merit. I stated before the election and still believe Obama could have beaten if the GOP had put up a good candidate. They have come with somebody who actually won their last general election. Romney had lost his last by 17 points, so wasn't a shock when he lost again.

Merit? Really? If merit was the issue Romney's name would be preceded with the word president. Based on several polls I have seen, I think people now realize that being a good presidential candidate doesn't always transfer over to being a good president.

Tom
09-05-2014, 01:58 PM
Originally Posted by Robert Goren
Mitt lost on merit.


Fantastic.

TJDave
09-05-2014, 02:07 PM
Who knew that religious bias was greater than skin color bias in this country then...to listen to the media, this country is nothing but one giant racist nation...yet it elects a black man over a Mormon?


Blacks outnumber Mormons 8-1 and are concentrated in large population centers located in significantly important electoral states while Mormons win powerhouse states like Utah and Idaho.

Maybe they should all move en-masse to Chicago?

JustRalph
09-05-2014, 02:07 PM
According to UnskewedPolls.com, and Karl Rove Mitt never lost. And sacks of shit never ever win two presidential terms and John Galt rules forever :lol: :lol:

Keep squirming. Your boy is down to 38% job approval rating. The world is laughing at him. His legacy is going to read like a recipe for shit stew.

Two years to go and by the time it's all done, his own wife will be embarrassed to be seen with him. His kids are going to suffer the humility of his last name. I predict they marry quickly :lol:

He's going to be pounding nails in Habitat for Humanity Houses next to his brother, Jimmy Carter. Some saps will pay him to speak for a short period of time, but that will go away fast.

It's a long way from Grant Park to skid row. Enjoy the ride.........

Mike at A+
09-05-2014, 02:11 PM
Romney lost because he didn't go for the jugular after that first debate in which he clearly wiped the floor with Hussein. Then he became a docile Mr. Nice Guy and that combined with Candy Crowley's cheating and an overwhelming number of blacks who voted for 0bama purely on skin color and the "white guilt" voters who wanted to be "part of history". The average IQ of the American voter in 2008 and 2012 makes us an embarrassment to the world in light of what this racist piece of crap has gotten away with. Hopefully the results of the 2014 midterms will put Hussein on a short leash and start the recovery that should have started 4 or 5 years ago.

Greyfox
09-05-2014, 02:32 PM
In the article Romney wisely said:

"The history of the 20th century teaches that power-hungry tyrants ultimately feast on the appeasers -"

Those words were a direct hit at Obama, who appears to be the 21st Century's replacement for Neville Chamberlain in the failing to see danger department.

TJDave
09-05-2014, 02:33 PM
an overwhelming number of blacks who voted for 0bama purely on skin color

There's no way to know for sure but I have the sneaking suspicion that the percentage of Mormons who voted for Romney was higher.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. ;)

Voting for someone with whom you share ethnicity is not being racist.

AndyC
09-05-2014, 03:03 PM
.....Voting for someone with whom you share ethnicity is not being racist.

Making a decision based on race is absolutely being racist, be it voting, hiring, etc.

TJDave
09-05-2014, 03:11 PM
Making a decision based on race is absolutely being racist, be it voting, hiring, etc.

Is not. There is no difference between blacks voting for Obama and Irish Catholics who voted for JFK.

Clocker
09-05-2014, 03:25 PM
Is not. There is no difference between blacks voting for Obama and Irish Catholics who voted for JFK.

Racism is one form of prejudice. Voting for someone solely on the basis of race, sex, religion, etc., is prejudice.

Voting for or against someone solely on the basis of race is racial prejudice. Voting for or against someone solely on the basis of religion is religious prejudice.

classhandicapper
09-05-2014, 04:18 PM
Suppose you vote for someone the same race or religion because you believe that makes them more likely to support and take action on things you identify as significant. Then you are simply voting for self interest.

Greyfox
09-05-2014, 05:37 PM
This thread is hung up on racism and prejudice, and why Romney was defeated.
Get over it. He didn't win for whatever reasons.


More importantly, the Romney oped was about maintaining a stronger military force.
If anything Obama has neutered some of the U.S. military's potency.
Romney is pointing out that is a very dangerous path for America to follow.
Hands up.
Who thinks Romney is right?
"I do!" for a start.

NJ Stinks
09-05-2014, 05:40 PM
I don't agree with Mitt on everything, but he's intelligent, experienced in politics at a high level, highly competent in business/economics, understands markets, has a realistic view of the differences in cultures/countries and how that could lead to conflict etc...

He was one of the most competent and qualified candidates we've had an opportunity to vote for in recent years. He was also uniquely qualified to handle the most important long term issue facing us which is the budget, fast entitlement growth, debt, etc...

That he lost to the biggest delusional nitwit in US history was catastrophic.

There is something to be said for grieving in private.

Robert Goren
09-05-2014, 05:45 PM
What election did he lose after he was governor other than the presidential?You are correct and I was wrong. I thought his senate race against Kennedy came after his term governor when it actually came before. Romney decided not run for re-election in 2006. His Lt. Governor ran instead and lost by 20 pts. He apparently had, at that point, to try for GOP presidential nod in 2008.
I stand by my statement that he was a poor candidate and a good one would have beaten Obama, maybe pretty easily. Unfortunately for the GOP and fortunately for Obama, none of the GOP heavy hitters decided to run.

Robert Goren
09-05-2014, 05:50 PM
This thread is hung up on racism and prejudice, and why Romney was defeated.
Get over it. He didn't win for whatever reasons.


More importantly, the Romney oped was about maintaining a stronger military force.
If anything Obama has neutered some of the U.S. military's potency.
Romney is pointing out that is a very dangerous path for America to follow.
Hands up.
Who thinks Romney is right?
"I do!" for a start.The American Military at this point in time has no idea how to fight and win a guerrilla war. That would not change no matter who is president.

fast4522
09-05-2014, 06:18 PM
RG, now your talking out your ass again, our American Military is second to none.

Ponder this.

Tom
09-06-2014, 12:04 AM
In the article Romney wisely said:

"The history of the 20th century teaches that power-hungry tyrants ultimately feast on the appeasers -"

Those words were a direct hit at Obama, who appears to be the 21st Century's replacement for Neville Chamberlain in the failing to see danger department.

Amen, my brother......

Racetrack Playa
09-06-2014, 12:25 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxch-yi14BE

GameTheory
09-06-2014, 10:05 AM
Unfortunately for the GOP and fortunately for Obama, none of the GOP heavy hitters decided to run.Who are these heavy hitters that would have beat him?

boxcar
09-06-2014, 11:01 AM
I'd guess that the number of idiots that wouldn't vote for a Mormon was offset by the number of idiots that wouldn't vote for a black.

Romney didn't lose the election because he was a Mormon, he lost it because he wasn't a good candidate. Romney was the steak in the race, and Obama was the sizzle. You don't sell the steak, you sell the sizzle, especially to low information voters.

Many people, including me, didn't vote (period) for one reason: Mitten is a RINO. I can't stand lukewarm beverages. Rather have 'em hot or cold.

Boxcar

Tom
09-06-2014, 11:29 AM
Many people, including me, didn't vote (period) for one reason: Mitten is a RINO. I can't stand lukewarm beverages. Rather have 'em hot or cold.

Boxcar

Well, thanks to that view we got cold.
You voted for Obama, bottom line.

boxcar
09-06-2014, 12:01 PM
Well, thanks to that view we got cold.
You voted for Obama, bottom line.

It's what America wanted. Besides, they tallied no vote of mine for BO when they counted.

Boxcar

newtothegame
09-06-2014, 12:42 PM
It's what America wanted. Besides, they tallied no vote of mine for BO when they counted.

Boxcar
Sure they did.....it just wasn't a direct vote....
I have said before and will stand by it....
If you fail to vote a candidate in, and the opposition wins, you were a part of effectively putting him in office by NOT voting for the opposition.

OntheRail
09-06-2014, 02:47 PM
Many people, including me, didn't vote (period) for one reason: Mitten is a RINO. I can't stand lukewarm beverages. Rather have 'em hot or cold.

Boxcar

Your inaction at the ballot box... in my opinion removes your right to bitch. As I see it you greased up your cheeks and grabbed your ankles... willing to take whatever came your way. WE as a Nation would of been much better off with Mitt then the Twit your none vote weighted in for.

Tom
09-06-2014, 06:24 PM
It's what America wanted. Besides, they tallied no vote of mine for BO when they counted.

Boxcar
Point is, they counted no vote for Romney to counter it.
Elections are decided by those who do not vote, not those who do.

boxcar
09-06-2014, 06:39 PM
Your inaction at the ballot box... in my opinion removes your right to bitch. As I see it you greased up your cheeks and grabbed your ankles... willing to take whatever came your way. WE as a Nation would of been much better off with Mitt then the Twit your none vote weighted in for.

Who's complaining? I did most Americans a solid. They and the Republican establishment wanted a socialist in office, so I helped THEM to reelect him. When you have to have a painful procedure performed on you, do you tell the dentist or doctor, "Hey, doc, take your time"? Likewise, I was compassionate on most Americans by helping them to get through this painful time in history quickly. Voting for Romney in would have only prolonged the agony.

Now if there only had been a clear cut choice of ecstasy...

Boxcar
P.S. You whiners who complain about BO should make yourselves heard loud and clear to the Republican establishment. They just have no class or taste or clue when they put their candidates forth.

boxcar
09-06-2014, 06:42 PM
Point is, they counted no vote for Romney to counter it.
Elections are decided by those who do not vote, not those who do.

Well then...going by your logic, I'm darn glad I didn't wast my valuable time at the polling place! I certainly will remember your pearls of wisdom come next election.

Boxcar

Tom
09-06-2014, 07:05 PM
You don't have to be dick about it.
Forget I tried to talk to you....WOT.

OntheRail
09-07-2014, 12:52 AM
Who's complaining? I did most Americans a solid. They and the Republican establishment wanted a socialist in office, so I helped THEM to reelect him. When you have to have a painful procedure performed on you, do you tell the dentist or doctor, "Hey, doc, take your time"? Likewise, I was compassionate on most Americans by helping them to get through this painful time in history quickly. Voting for Romney in would have only prolonged the agony.

Now if there only had been a clear cut choice of ecstasy...

Boxcar
P.S. You whiners who complain about BO should make yourselves heard loud and clear to the Republican establishment. They just have no class or taste or clue when they put their candidates forth.

A solid... hell you helped push her in the ditch. For which recovery may never come in my lifetime.

Sure... no complaints from you...

HUSKER55
09-07-2014, 07:46 AM
I remember being told when I was a kid that not voting meant you had to keep your damn mouth shut because you if you don't vote then the slim that got elected was your fault and you deserved the consequences.

Robert Goren
09-07-2014, 09:53 AM
Who are these heavy hitters that would have beat him? I think Huckabee ( I would not have voted for him though) would have had a chance. So would have Rudy(I would have had to think about him long and hard about him). I doubt if either could have gotten the GOP nod though. I think see the problem that GOP has. They and a lot of posters here think Mitt was a good candidate. As a democrat, I hope they keep thinking that. As an American, I hope they don't. The American system works best when both parties put up good candidates that have a real chance of winning even if one is more conservative than I would like . You have to believe that the GOP had to have a senator or governor some place that was better than Mitt.

Tom
09-07-2014, 11:00 AM
The American system works best when both parties put up good candidates

Then 'splain the Democrats, Lucy! :D

GameTheory
09-07-2014, 11:29 AM
I think Huckabee ( I would not have voted for him though) would have had a chance.I think Huckabee was perceived to be more "out there" than Mitt. I think he would've done even worse.

So would have Rudy(I would have had to think about him long and hard about him).Rudy maybe could have won as a Democrat. I think a whole lot of problems with Rudy would come to the surface if he really got scrutiny.

They and a lot of posters here think Mitt was a good candidate.They think he would have been a good president. His goodness as a candidate is not up for debate because elections tell you that -- he lost, so I guess he wasn't that great as a candidate. I can't think of any good Republican candidates...certainly weren't any in the last election...

Tom
09-07-2014, 01:39 PM
The republicans don't want good candidates, they want republican candidates.
And that is what they get.

boxcar
09-07-2014, 02:33 PM
A solid... hell you helped push her in the ditch. For which recovery may never come in my lifetime.

Sure... no complaints from you...

No! Both political parties are pushing America into the ditch. (Live it, love it and learn it.) :rolleyes: I have no use for either one of them. (Oh, did I just complain?)

And here's another thing you and Tom and the other whiners out there can stuff in your hash pipe and puff on: When you vote to put garbage in office, you will only get political garbage out of it. You can bank on this!

And here's something else you can take to the bank: Garbage stinks no which party occupies the WH.

I voted for my last RINO when I voted for McCain in '08! A lot of good that did! I should have stayed home then! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Boxcar

boxcar
09-07-2014, 02:36 PM
You don't have to be dick about it.
Forget I tried to talk to you....WOT.

Instead, you should forget you tried to use sound logic when you tried to talk.
It was so solid you talked me out of ever voting again... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Boxcar

fast4522
09-07-2014, 03:12 PM
Shallow. :bang:

Tom
09-07-2014, 06:33 PM
Instead, you should forget you tried to use sound logic when you tried to talk.
It was so solid you talked me out of ever voting again... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Boxcar

And you find that funny.
How sad.

boxcar
09-07-2014, 07:26 PM
And you find that funny.
How sad.

You know what I find funny? What if Mitten had won the election, then would you have blamed me, too, for casting my vote for him by not voting? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

But lighten up. Before you know it'll be fun time in the national political zoo again and you'll get to vote all over again for your favorite RINO. :lol: :lol:

Boxcar

Robert Goren
09-07-2014, 07:43 PM
I think Huckabee was perceived to be more "out there" than Mitt. I think he would've done even worse.

Rudy maybe could have won as a Democrat. I think a whole lot of problems with Rudy would come to the surface if he really got scrutiny.

They think he would have been a good president. His goodness as a candidate is not up for debate because elections tell you that -- he lost, so I guess he wasn't that great as a candidate. I can't think of any good Republican candidates...certainly weren't any in the last election...I know 4 democrats who say they would have voted for Huckabee over Obama. They say they voted Obama. I have learned to never to underestimate the folksy candidate after Reagan. They have the charisma to overcome their weirdness. By every poll at the time Reagan was far to right of the people, yet he always got high approval ratings in the same polls.

GameTheory
09-07-2014, 07:49 PM
I know 4 democrats who say they would have voted for Huckabee over Obama. They say they voted Obama. I have learned to never to underestimate the folksy candidate after Reagan. They have the charisma to overcome their weirdness. By every poll at the time Reagan was far to right of the people, yet he always got high approval ratings in the same polls.
Maybe after I spend some more time as a Southerner (recently moved to GA) I will think folksiness is more powerful...

Robert Goren
09-07-2014, 07:51 PM
I think Huckabee was perceived to be more "out there" than Mitt. I think he would've done even worse.

Rudy maybe could have won as a Democrat. I think a whole lot of problems with Rudy would come to the surface if he really got scrutiny.

They think he would have been a good president. His goodness as a candidate is not up for debate because elections tell you that -- he lost, so I guess he wasn't that great as a candidate. I can't think of any good Republican candidates...certainly weren't any in the last election...There were posters here who said if Mitt lost they would stop posting here. Needless to say they no longer post, at least not under same handle. There plenty of other others who predicted a Mitt victory. I don't remember a single conservative who predicted the Obama electoral college landslide in 2012.

GameTheory
09-07-2014, 07:55 PM
There were posters here who said if Mitt lost they would stop posting here. Needless to say they no longer post, at least not under same handle. There plenty of other others who predicted a Mitt victory. I don't remember a single conservative who predicted the Obama electoral college landslide in 2012.
I thought Mitt would win. I underestimated the power of the incumbent. It really seemed to me that Obama should have done worse compared to the first time around, which he did popular votewise, but not enough...

TJDave
09-07-2014, 08:34 PM
I thought Mitt would win. I underestimated the power of the incumbent. It really seemed to me that Obama should have done worse compared to the first time around, which he did popular votewise, but not enough...

I never thought a candidate with a name like Barack Hussein Obama could win the presidency. I was sure of it. I had forgotten that 18-year-olds could vote.

GameTheory
09-07-2014, 08:37 PM
I never thought a candidate with a name like Barack Hussein Obama could win the presidency. I was sure of it. I had forgotten that 18-year-olds could vote.Oh, I knew that whoever the Democrat was in 2008 was going to win...that was there chance to nominate anybody at all, and they did.

OntheRail
09-07-2014, 11:12 PM
No! Both political parties are pushing America into the ditch. (Live it, love it and learn it.) :rolleyes: I have no use for either one of them. (Oh, did I just complain?)

And here's another thing you and Tom and the other whiners out there can stuff in your hash pipe and puff on: When you vote to put garbage in office, you will only get political garbage out of it. You can bank on this!

And here's something else you can take to the bank: Garbage stinks no which party occupies the WH.

I voted for my last RINO when I voted for McCain in '08! A lot of good that did! I should have stayed home then! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Boxcar

Hash pipe... hardly I don't smoke anything... doubt Tom does either. Maybe that's your secret or you need to put the cork back in your bottle of tonic. ;)

You either try to help right the ship each and every time you have a chance or your just ballast dragging it down.