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cutchemist42
08-20-2014, 05:35 PM
I'm going to possibly be hated on this board for bringing this site up, but I stumbled upon it 2 days ago and have done a lot of reading through it and think its worth a look. Just wondering if anyone else has come upon it, and what they think of it? Do they bring up legit issues? Just a shock site?

http://horseracingwrongs.com/

DeltaLover
08-20-2014, 05:55 PM
I'm going to possibly be hated on this board for bringing this site up, but I stumbled upon it 2 days ago and have done a lot of reading through it and think its worth a look. Just wondering if anyone else has come upon it, and what they think of it? Do they bring up legit issues? Just a shock site?



This is one of the most idiotic sites I have ever seen... Stay clear!

RacingFan1992
08-20-2014, 06:25 PM
One of the most biased websites I have ever seen. I wonder if these are the same people who would rather have the horses starve to death rather than being owned by humans. They should do this for all sports. Keep a tab on every athlete and how many drop through the cracks both human and animal. How many football players never make it to college and never make it to the NFL. I think breakdowns are awful but these sites assume that every time the gates open a horse will break down.

Stillriledup
08-20-2014, 06:31 PM
I guess horseracingrights wasn't available?

Lots of people in this game who deeply care about the animals and do whatever they can to take care of them, lots of great things about horse racing, but you know, these things never get reported, they just want to talk about the negatives.

I would imagine that for every horsemen who doesn't care about the animal, there are 9 that do.

Never a fan of this type of reporting, especially from "outsiders" who have no skin in the game.

chadk66
08-20-2014, 06:38 PM
nothing but a PETA scare sight like all the rest.

thaskalos
08-20-2014, 06:40 PM
There is no doubt that the people who run that site are deeply biased...but are they right about those "disappearing" horses?

JustRalph
08-20-2014, 09:48 PM
Somebody ask him. Looks like he's not hiding? You can easily hide this info......unless this is just a media contact or something........


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Some_One
08-20-2014, 10:16 PM
So by the same logic of these people, because you can be hit by a car while crossing the street, no person should go out in public.

affirmedny
08-20-2014, 10:45 PM
this should tell you all you need to know about him

http://blog.timesunion.com/animalrights/to-end-this-evil-end-animal-property-2/5207/

VeryOldMan
08-21-2014, 01:09 PM
this should tell you all you need to know about him

http://blog.timesunion.com/animalrights/to-end-this-evil-end-animal-property-2/5207/

"End animal property", huh? I think the relationship is the other way around with my cat :)

bello
08-21-2014, 01:24 PM
http://www.squarepegfoundation.org/2014/05/the-masters-warn-us-not-to-romanticize-the-horse-sometimes-this-is-impossible/

Here is the antidote of what even one race horse can do to positively affect many lives.

thaskalos
08-21-2014, 01:58 PM
http://www.squarepegfoundation.org/2014/05/the-masters-warn-us-not-to-romanticize-the-horse-sometimes-this-is-impossible/

Here is the antidote of what even one race horse can do to positively affect many lives.

I read stories like these...and a fight starts up inside of me. I know that the animal activists are biased in their views...but I also know that they have done considerable good in their quest to shed light on the hideous practice of animal abuse -- in all types of industries. And who among us can claim that he is totally unbiased in his views?

As horseplayers, most of us get to love the horse...and consider it the noblest and most gallant of animals. And I am sure most of us would also agree that this regal animal deserves a better ending than to die without a mention...or disappear without a trace.

Yes...serious injury and even death are unavoidable parts of this game. But when that traumatic time comes...can't it be handled with the reverence that these beautiful animals deserve? They do so much for our enjoyment; can't we repay them by at least making sure that they don't die in total anonymity...or in disgrace?

It doesn't seem like much to ask...

Robert Goren
08-21-2014, 02:12 PM
I guess horseracingrights wasn't available?

Lots of people in this game who deeply care about the animals and do whatever they can to take care of them, lots of great things about horse racing, but you know, these things never get reported, they just want to talk about the negatives.

I would imagine that for every horsemen who doesn't care about the animal, there are 9 that do.

Never a fan of this type of reporting, especially from "outsiders" who have no skin in the game.One in ten is far too many. No horseman who doesn't care should have a license. Tracks and state racing commissions continue to allow the uncaring horsemen to operate long after they become known, hiding behind legalities. But they can find a way to punish a jockey if he smokes weed immediately. I don't believe anybody in racing is putting forth an effort to get rid of the rotten apples. I would to think that web site and other like it would effect a change, but...... That the problem with racing, too many buts, so nothing ever gets done.

bello
08-21-2014, 02:28 PM
I Totally agree with the last two posts. Which is why (I and others)made a stink about Immortal Eyes...9 year old millionaire that is being tanked by Jacobsen....who's stable, I seem to recall, agreed to send some to rescue farms. I came down on the only two NYRA employees most visible to the public so I will not go there again. The reason for that was in their own best interests but it was not taken that way. I was just looking for NYRA to do the smart thing before this horse becomes a poster horse for bad behavior. And we know where that leads.

Cholly
08-21-2014, 03:11 PM
I read stories like these...and a fight starts up inside of me. I know that the animal activists are biased in their views...but I also know that they have done considerable good in their quest to shed light on the hideous practice of animal abuse -- in all types of industries. And who among us can claim that he is totally unbiased in his views?

As horseplayers, most of us get to love the horse...and consider it the noblest and most gallant of animals. And I am sure most of us would also agree that this regal animal deserves a better ending than to die without a mention...or disappear without a trace.

Yes...serious injury and even death are unavoidable parts of this game. But when that traumatic time comes...can't it be handled with the reverence that these beautiful animals deserve? They do so much for our enjoyment; can't we repay them by at least making sure that they don't die in total anonymity...or in disgrace?

It doesn't seem like much to ask...
Thaskalos is spot on in his comments. If dying on the track is part of the sport, then the sport should find a way to recognize and honor those sacrifices. As it is, racing treats these deaths as some sort of embarrassment to be shunted out of sight. What is actually embarrassing is racing’s failure to demonstrate the decency and courage to get out in front with these events and publicly acknowledge the sacrifices when they are made.

cutchemist42
08-21-2014, 04:08 PM
I Totally agree with the last two posts. Which is why (I and others)made a stink about Immortal Eyes...9 year old millionaire that is being tanked by Jacobsen....who's stable, I seem to recall, agreed to send some to rescue farms. I came down on the only two NYRA employees most visible to the public so I will not go there again. The reason for that was in their own best interests but it was not taken that way. I was just looking for NYRA to do the smart thing before this horse becomes a poster horse for bad behavior. And we know where that leads.

Based off the guys' site, cases like Immortal Eyes are his biggest complaints and its probably the horse racing issue I dislike the most. Someone trying to squeeze one last casino-inflated purse out of a horse that has likely done enough to deserve retirement.

VeryOldMan
08-21-2014, 04:41 PM
Based off the guys' site, cases like Immortal Eyes are his biggest complaints and its probably the horse racing issue I dislike the most. Someone trying to squeeze one last casino-inflated purse out of a horse that has likely done enough to deserve retirement.

I'm in complete agreement about IE, as you and others know.

Back to your thread start - I feel as if it really isn't an either/or situation. It is a shock website run by someone who clearly is on the very far extreme about animal "rights" - he doesn't even believe we should have pets like cats and dogs.

I therefore don't think he gives an "accurate" picture of the sport, but he is shedding a lot of light on a corner of the sport that we all have to face. Racehorses do break down and die. Racehorses are sent off to slaughter. He isn't making that stuff up - the charts I've sampled suggest he is maintaining a legitimate roster of the fallen.

I share the sentiments echoed upthread that the sport should at least acknowledge the sacrifice and not try to sweep it under the rug. I keep watching it, just like I keep eating meat (ever researched how industrial meatpacking works?) and watching an occasional boxing match. But it all has a downside that I acknowledge.

HUSKER55
08-21-2014, 04:42 PM
must be me, but I am having a difficult time believing that any decent trainer would allow people, like those depicted, on the track.

They are saying a horse loses a race and is sent to Borden?