20 Examples Of What Liberalism Really Is.

[BlueShoe]

Mr. John Hawkins nails it. :ThmbUp: Every single point is right on target and cannot be refuted by the Left. We could cite examples of every single one of the 20 examples. Expect the usual liberal tactic of attacking the messenger while ignoring the message in response to the article.
http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2014/07/19/20-examples-of-what-liberalism-really-is-n1863760

[cj's dad]

They'll avoid this thread like a communicable disease ! Oops, I forgot, that is what liberalism is !

[jballscalls]

I've always contended that these wide sweeping generalizations of the two parties are what keep us stuck in the two parties and are horrifically divisive.

Surely BlueShoe you don't believe that all liberals cheat on their taxes as the article insinuates.

I mean, I read things CJ's Dad says and I don't associate those thoughts/beliefs with all conservatives, because they are his and he's an individual. I think it's important not to spread wide sweeping generalizations and instead focus on what conservatives want us to focus on...individual accountability!

[Spiderman]

It is liberal to wish to conserve our resources and conservative to wish to spend them liberally.
It is liberal to tolerate monopolistic prices for foreign oil and conservative to tolerate monopolistic prices for domestic oil.
It is liberal to expect corporations to behave like the Government. It is conservative to expect the Government to behave like corporations.
It is liberal to risk high-priced failure and costly overruns in almost every federal department except the Pentagon. It is conservative to risk them only in the Pentagon.
It is liberal to subsidize buildings in which people live and conservative to subsidize buildings in which people work.
It is liberal to oppose international boycotts on grounds of principle. It is conservative to oppose international boycotts as ineffective.
It is liberal to perceive humanism among Communists of Italy. It is conservative to perceive humanism among the fascists of Chile.
It is liberal to favor food stamps in New York. It is conservative to favor food stamps in Des Moines.
It is liberal to favor government subsidy for the Metropolitan Opera. It is conservative to favor government subsidy for the New York Mets.
It is liberal to believe that inequality results primarily from inequity. It is conservative to believe that inequity results primarily from inequality.
It is liberal, in Wall Street, to work for The New York Times, and conservative in Greenwich Village.

[cj's dad]

Where did you cut and paste that from ?

[Spiderman]

Take it for what is stated. The list of syllogism is from an era than was civilized and less extreme.

[davew]

I disagree with that article - it infers all liberals are like that.

I feel that it only applies to liberals that are making a good chunk of their money (or did at one time, and now are capitalizing on their past 'fame') from the government.

[cj's dad]

Take it for what is stated. The list of syllogism is from an era than was civilized and less extreme.

The difference between your post and the OP is that BlueShoe added the link from which the statements are attributed. Your post however would indicate that these are your thoughts which clearly they are not.

[dartman51]

There is a BIG difference between being a Democrat, and being a Liberal. I was a registered Democrat for years, till the Libs took over. Now I'm an Independent, and will stay that way. The list is fairly accurate on Libs. :ThmbUp:

[Tom]

Surely BlueShoe you don't believe that all liberals cheat on their taxes as the article insinuates.

Of course not.
47% of them don't pay any. ;)

[thaskalos]

Mr. John Hawkins nails it. :ThmbUp: Every single point is right on target and cannot be refuted by the Left. We could cite examples of every single one of the 20 examples. Expect the usual liberal tactic of attacking the messenger while ignoring the message in response to the article.
http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2014/07/19/20-examples-of-what-liberalism-really-is-n1863760
The article is spot on, IMO.

I saw myself in virtually every single one of the examples. :ThmbUp:

[mostpost]

Mr. John Hawkins nails it. :ThmbUp: Every single point is right on target and cannot be refuted by the Left. We could cite examples of every single one of the 20 examples. Expect the usual liberal tactic of attacking the messenger while ignoring the message in response to the article.
http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2014/07/19/20-examples-of-what-liberalism-really-is-n1863760

1) Liberalism is college professors and documentary filmmakers accumulating vast fortunes in a capitalistic system by decrying the evils of capitalism.
Name some of those liberal college professors who have accumulated vast fortunes. Liberals do not decry the evils of capitalism. We do recognize its shortcomings and try to fix them. Conservatives are unthinking adherents to the capitalist system.

2) Liberalism is claiming that the "border is secure" while saying we shouldn't deport anyone who illegally crosses the border.
Conservatism is saying we should shoot everyone who tries to cross the border and send back every child who comes across alone even if it means sending them back to a life of sexual slavery.

3) Liberalism is "environmental activists" flying across the world to ride together in SUVs to posh environmental conferences where they call for everyone else to live like cavemen in order to save the planet.
Conservatism is not giving a damn if you pollute the planet as long as you make a profit. If you damn conservatives would act responsibly, we damn liberals wouldn't have to fly all over the planet.

4) Liberalism is spewing hatred and profanity at conservative women, calling for gun control that leaves women defenseless against rapists and murderers, and celebrating misogynistic pigs like Bill Clinton while accusing OTHER PEOPLE of being engaged in a "war on women."
Conservatism is spewing hatred and profanity at women of any political persuasion who choose to have an abortion. Liberals do not want to take weapons out of the hands of law abiding citizens; we just want to be reasonably certain they are law abiding. A misogynist is a man who hate women. Bill Clinton's problem was not that he hated women; it was that he liked to many of them. Conservatives are the true misogynists, denying women their rights under the guise of protecting them from themselves.


Liberalism is people who say that asking for voter ID is racist while claiming that black Americans are too uniquely stupid and lazy to get an ID.
Conservatism is thinking liberals will be too stupid to see who will be most affected by voter ID laws-minorities, the elderly, the young and will be least affected-the wealthy and upper middle class white voter. The first group votes Democratic; the second Democratic. Funny which group your laws target. All to solve a problem that does not exist. Except in your befuddled mind.

6) Liberalism is forcibly taking money you don't deserve from the people who earned it and calling THEM greedy for not wanting to give you even more.
Conservatism is not paying people the money they have earned, then shooting at them when they ask for more.

7) Liberalism is saying that the government should confiscate guns from NRA members and kill them if they resist and then claiming that you have no idea why they think that they need guns to defend themselves.
Conservatism is grazing your cattle on government land for free for thirty years, then wondering why the government is coming after you. Conservatism is thinking the county sheriff is the ultimate authority in a country of three million square miles and three hundred million people. Conservatism is being a freaking idiot.

8) Liberalism is people who sneer at displays of the American flag, tell the world America isn't exceptional, and criticize the country non-stop while getting offended if their patriotism is questioned.
Conservatism is people who wrap themselves in the flag, refuse to acknowledge any good anywhere else in the world and are genuinely offended when citizens of other countries don't like them. Everyone thinks their country is the best. Not all of us are right. Respect the opinions of those from other countries.

9) Liberalism is calling for higher taxes while you cheat on your own taxes.
Conservatism is calling for lower taxes while you cheat on your own taxes.

10) Liberalism is bitter, race-obsessed people who see EVERYTHING in racial terms, accusing OTHER PEOPLE of being racists.
Conservatism is being racist and being in denial about it.


I'm going to stop here because I have more important things to do now but before I close I will fulfill Blue Shoe's prediction. John Hawkins is a conservative hack with the same IQ as the rest of the hacks at Townhall. ZERO.

[davew]

1) Liberalism is college professors and documentary filmmakers accumulating vast fortunes in a capitalistic system by decrying the evils of capitalism.
Name some of those liberal college professors who have accumulated vast fortunes. Liberals do not decry the evils of capitalism. We do recognize its shortcomings and try to fix them. Conservatives are unthinking adherents to the capitalist system.

2) Liberalism is claiming that the "border is secure" while saying we shouldn't deport anyone who illegally crosses the border.
Conservatism is saying we should shoot everyone who tries to cross the border and send back every child who comes across alone even if it means sending them back to a life of sexual slavery.

3) Liberalism is "environmental activists" flying across the world to ride together in SUVs to posh environmental conferences where they call for everyone else to live like cavemen in order to save the planet.
Conservatism is not giving a damn if you pollute the planet as long as you make a profit. If you damn conservatives would act responsibly, we damn liberals wouldn't have to fly all over the planet.

4) Liberalism is spewing hatred and profanity at conservative women, calling for gun control that leaves women defenseless against rapists and murderers, and celebrating misogynistic pigs like Bill Clinton while accusing OTHER PEOPLE of being engaged in a "war on women."
Conservatism is spewing hatred and profanity at women of any political persuasion who choose to have an abortion. Liberals do not want to take weapons out of the hands of law abiding citizens; we just want to be reasonably certain they are law abiding. A misogynist is a man who hate women. Bill Clinton's problem was not that he hated women; it was that he liked to many of them. Conservatives are the true misogynists, denying women their rights under the guise of protecting them from themselves.


Liberalism is people who say that asking for voter ID is racist while claiming that black Americans are too uniquely stupid and lazy to get an ID.
Conservatism is thinking liberals will be too stupid to see who will be most affected by voter ID laws-minorities, the elderly, the young and will be least affected-the wealthy and upper middle class white voter. The first group votes Democratic; the second Democratic. Funny which group your laws target. All to solve a problem that does not exist. Except in your befuddled mind.

6) Liberalism is forcibly taking money you don't deserve from the people who earned it and calling THEM greedy for not wanting to give you even more.
Conservatism is not paying people the money they have earned, then shooting at them when they ask for more.

7) Liberalism is saying that the government should confiscate guns from NRA members and kill them if they resist and then claiming that you have no idea why they think that they need guns to defend themselves.
Conservatism is grazing your cattle on government land for free for thirty years, then wondering why the government is coming after you. Conservatism is thinking the county sheriff is the ultimate authority in a country of three million square miles and three hundred million people. Conservatism is being a freaking idiot.

8) Liberalism is people who sneer at displays of the American flag, tell the world America isn't exceptional, and criticize the country non-stop while getting offended if their patriotism is questioned.
Conservatism is people who wrap themselves in the flag, refuse to acknowledge any good anywhere else in the world and are genuinely offended when citizens of other countries don't like them. Everyone thinks their country is the best. Not all of us are right. Respect the opinions of those from other countries.

9) Liberalism is calling for higher taxes while you cheat on your own taxes.
Conservatism is calling for lower taxes while you cheat on your own taxes.

10) Liberalism is bitter, race-obsessed people who see EVERYTHING in racial terms, accusing OTHER PEOPLE of being racists.
Conservatism is being racist and being in denial about it.


I'm going to stop here because I have more important things to do now but before I close I will fulfill Blue Shoe's prediction. John Hawkins is a conservative hack with the same IQ as the rest of the hacks at Townhall. ZERO.

I take it you agree with all the liberlisms?

[mostpost]

I take it you agree with all the liberlisms?
You take it wrong.

[tucker6]

Mostie, your view of the world is quite warped. May your atheistic God has mercy on your socialist soul.

[horses4courses]

Mostie, your view of the world is quite warped. May your atheistic God has mercy on your socialist soul.

I always figured I would take my chances on that score.

[Greyfox]

1)
Conservatism is being racist and being in denial about it.




Really? :rolleyes:

[Clocker]

Conservatism is being racist and being in denial about it.



Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

The most incredibly ignorant, mindless, undocumented, unfounded personal attack posted in this forum in recent memory.

This statement is bad enough on its own, but the idiocy is compounded by the plantation mentality of the "liberals" who think that they have to help our black brothers who do not know what is good for them.

[hcap]

If by a liberal they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, some one who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people-their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, their civil liberties...if that is what you mean by 'liberal,' then I am proud to be a liberal."-JFK

[cj's dad]

So now you equate yourself with JFK ?:lol:

[hcap]

So now you equate yourself with JFK ?:lol:
Many similarities. One of which is explaining to cons just how dumb thy can be :lol:

http://www.jfklibrary.org/~/media/assets/Audiovisual/Still%20Photographs/A%20-%20Abbie%20Rowe%20-%20National%20Park%20Service/AR7410-D%20cropped

[BlueShoe]

Surely BlueShoe you don't believe that all liberals cheat on their taxes as the article insinuates.
Perhaps not. Of all the points in the article, this is the only one that might be questioned. All the others fit, and are typical liberal mindset and conduct. 19 out of 20 is not too bad.

[HUSKER55]

LIBERALS think the government owes them and conservatives think government should only do what the private sector cannot.

[BlueShoe]

I'm going to stop here because I have more important things to do now but before I close I will fulfill Blue Shoe's prediction. John Hawkins is a conservative hack with the same IQ as the rest of the hacks at Townhall. ZERO.
What is the IQ of the dolts at MoveOn.org, MSNBC, and the the New York Tmes, just a few of the sources of inspiration and directives for the American Left? Is there such a thing as a minus IQ?

[Tom]

some one who welcomes new ideas :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Here is liberalism summed up - someone else has it, we take it.

Never changes. Same old same old.

[Clocker]

If by a liberal they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, some one who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people-their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, their civil liberties...if that is what you mean by 'liberal,' then I am proud to be a liberal."-JFK


I am sure then that you will agree with JFK's fiscal policies.

In short, to increase demand and lift the economy, the Federal Government's most useful role is not to rush into a program of excessive increases in public expenditures, but to expand the incentives and opportunities for private expenditures. - JFK

[hcap]

I am sure then that you will agree with JFK's fiscal policies.In some cases yes. Even though you have attempted to besmirch his liberalism, he was a liberal

Keynesian Economics

JFK's (http://johnfkennedy35th.weebly.com/economic-policy.html) administration adopted fiscal and monetary policies to close the recessionary gap. Economist John Maynard Keynes was a believer in Monetarism which is the theory that in order to stabilize the economy the government must lower or raise interest rates accordingly. Keynes also introduced the concept of aggregate demand which showed that full employment could be maintained only with government spending. JFK fully embraced this idea, he fueled the economy by investing in domestic, military, and space programs. This is also known as Kennedy's New Frontier. He proposed to give federal aid to education, medical care to the elderly, mass transit, as well as regional development in Appalachia which, in turn, would help the impoverished community for decades. President Kennedy signed the Housing Act of June 30th 1961 to aid middle income families as well as mass transportation users while also increasing urban renewal. Unfortunately, congressional support was limited therefore, his plans were downgraded by congress. JFK was a supporter of organized labor, he helped strengthen their rights with the Trade Expansion Act of 1962. The President also looked to increase minimum wages and signed a bill in 1961 which expanded the minimum wage to $1.25.

Congress and Kennedy

Regretably many of President Kennedy’s proposals were shot down by a conservative congress run by Republicans and Conservative Democrats. It is important to keep in mind that JFK won the electoral vote by 83 votes. Congress was more than reluctant to fund Kennedy’s liberal plans such as the funding of education and Medicare. President Kennedy was, however, able to sign legislation to raise the minimum wage and increase social security benefits – this was possible in part because of his Vice President L.B. Johnson’s extensive relationship with congress . On June 30th 1961 JFK signed a bill that would extend Social Security to over five million people.

Taxes

Kennedy's tax cut did not go into effect until after his assassination. The theory behind JFK's tax cuts was that when disposable income increases spending increases. This will directly affect aggregate demand. Fiscal expansion raises the demand for products. Increases in demand will lead to more output without changing the prices. Kennedy also introduced an investment tax credit meaning businesses can reduce their income taxes by 10% of their investment in a year. With increased spending and tax cuts, investments grew boosting aggregate demand. According to Andrew L. Yarrow author of Measuring America: How Economic Growth Came to Define American Greatness in the late 20th Century "...more evidence that Keynesian ideas, translated into policy, would further increase American growth and prosperity"(69). The government also purchased bonds to increase the supply of money while reducing interest rates.

[Clocker]

Even though you have attempted to besmirch his liberalism,

OMG, Will I go to hell for that? :eek:

[hcap]

That and other things :cool:

Ask boxcar which

[Clocker]

That and other things :cool:

Ask boxcar which

There is already too much religion in this thread from the acolytes of the Church of Holy Progressivism and their patron saint, St. John of Hyannis Port. I am certainly not going go deeper into faith-based quibbles in that bigger morass of a thread.

[hcap]

There is already too much religion in this thread from the acolytes of the Church of Holy Progressivism and their patron saint, St. John of Hyannis Port. I am certainly not going go deeper into faith-based quibbles in that bigger morass of a thread.This thread is a very dumb example of Saint Ronald and the rightwingnuttery fringe cult. It was not started by any progressives or libs here, rather by a throwback to the John Birch Society and one of you gents who thinks Saint Barry did no wrong.

I just thought boxcar could give you a reading on your sins :lol:

[HUSKER55]

HCAP,

please explain how you can spend yourself rich. I would like to know. Even my banker would like to know.

[hcap]

HCAP,

please explain how you can spend yourself rich. I would like to know. Even my banker would like to know.Are you quoting me?

[HUSKER55]

refer to your post #27. Sooner or later, someone has to pay up.

[Tom]

OMG, Will I go to hell for that? :eek:

Don't bother, the liberals are trying to bring HELL here for you.

[Clocker]

Don't bother, the liberals are trying to bring HELL here for you.

Mission Accomplished.

[mostpost]

Mostie, your view of the world is quite warped. May your atheistic God has mercy on your socialist soul.There are so many things wrong with your statement above. "Atheistic God" is a contradiction in terms. I am neither an atheist nor a socialist. I am a practicing Catholic and a sensible capitalist. And it's have mercy not has mercy.

[mostpost]

Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

The most incredibly ignorant, mindless, undocumented, unfounded personal attack posted in this forum in recent memory.

This statement is bad enough on its own, but the idiocy is compounded by the plantation mentality of the "liberals" who think that they have to help our black brothers who do not know what is good for them.
Really? Almost everything you post exceeds my statement for ignorance mindlessness any other metric you may choose.

FYI a personal attack has to name a person. My statement about conservatives and racism did not name anyone.

The very use of the term "Plantation mentality" is an insult to liberals and blacks; and any other minority. Us liberals feel we have to help our black brothers because you conservatives are continually plotting to keep them down.

[PhantomOnTour]

If the Republican party had nominated a candidate worth a damn in the last two Presidential elections, and actually won one of them...I wonder if all these titty baby circle jerk "I hate Liberals, and so should you, and this is why" threads would even exist.
Gotta admit though - I've come to appreciate the unintentional comedic entertainment they provide me

The very definition of....Schadenfreude :lol:

[mostpost]

LIBERALS think the government owes them and conservatives think government should only do what the private sector cannot.
And who is to do what the private sector will not? If the private sector or portions of the private sector will not provide retirement benefits, who will do that? If the private sector or portions of the private sector will not provide heath insurance, who will do that? If the private sector or portions of the private sector will not police itself, who will do that?

Liberals don't think the government owes them anything. Liberals think government is the best instrument for us to provide things for ourselves. Particularly when the private sector refuses to provide them voluntarily.

[horses4courses]

Mission Accomplished.

Oh yeah, right.
I'm sure you life is just one hell on earth.

I just have these images of conservatives hunkering down in their shelters.
Not daring to surface until their guy is in the WH.

[Clocker]

refer to your post #27. Sooner or later, someone has to pay up.

The source for that long quote does not explain who wrote it, but its description of Keynes' theories is nonsense.

Economist John Maynard Keynes was a believer in Monetarism which is the theory that in order to stabilize the economy the government must lower or raise interest rates accordingly. Keynes also introduced the concept of aggregate demand which showed that full employment could be maintained only with government spending.

Keynes was not a monetarist. And he certainly did not believe that full employment could be maintained only with government spending. He believed in a small government with balanced budgets.

What he said was that in extreme situations, such as a deep recession, a short period of deficit spending by the government can stimulate demand, and get the private sector moving again. Once accomplished, the government should return to balancing the budget.

This theory has been twisted into a progressive justification for expansive government spending and social programs. Most economists, no matter their philosophy, agree that if Keynes was alive today, he would not be a Keynesian.

[tucker6]

There are so many things wrong with your statement above. "Atheistic God" is a contradiction in terms. I am neither an atheist nor a socialist. I am a practicing Catholic and a sensible capitalist. And it's have mercy not has mercy.
No sh!t Sherlock on the contradiction. You are certainly a socialist and have no idea what capitalism even is. Thanks for the english lesson. I never knew that. :rolleyes:

[Clocker]

Oh yeah, right.
I'm sure you life is just one hell on earth.




Liberals are so literal.

I just have these images of conservatives hunkering down in their shelters.
Not daring to surface until their guy is in the WH.

You forgot the part about clinging to guns and religion. :p

[BlueShoe]

I am neither an atheist nor a socialist. I am a practicing Catholic and a sensible capitalist.
Boy you sure had a bunch of us fooled. :eek: :rolleyes: As for the religion part, isn't "Religious Liberal" an oxymoron?

[Clocker]

Thanks for the english lesson. I never knew that. :rolleyes:

Totally destroyed your entire position with that demonstration of superior intellect. :D

[tucker6]

Oh yeah, right.
I'm sure you life is just one hell on earth.

I just have these images of conservatives hunkering down in their shelters.
Not daring to surface until their guy is in the WH.
Not at all. We've decided to completely gum up the works and limit as much damage as possible over these next couple years by your president. We even approve of his constant vacations and golf outings. But mind you, they'll be hell to pay when we win back the WH. That's a promise. So enjoy your day in the sun, and have a nice day. :)

[tucker6]

Totally destroyed your entire position with that demonstration of superior intellect. :D
It gave me chills up my spine to know someone like him not only read my post, but had the charity in his heart to help me. I'll never wash the finger that mistyped that word. :lol:

[Tom]

If the Republican party had nominated a candidate worth a damn in the last two Presidential elections, and actually won one of them...I wonder if all these titty baby circle jerk "I hate Liberals, and so should you, and this is why" threads would even exist.
Gotta admit though - I've come to appreciate the unintentional comedic entertainment they provide me

The very definition of....Schadenfreude :lol:

It kills you that your boy is total ass and a complete failure, doesn't it? :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Tom]

It gave me chills up my spine to know someone like him not only read my post, but had the charity in his heart to help me. I'll never wash the finger that mistyped that word. :lol:

Do you use the same finger I do to reply to his posts? :lol: :lol:

[Clocker]

As for the religion part, isn't "Religious Liberal" an oxymoron?

Nancy Pelosi is the poster child for the "Religious Liberal". She wears her religion on her sleeve while she strongly advocates positions and practices that her Church forbids. The classic case of the Cafeteria Catholic.

Liberals who practice their religion are tolerated if they mostly toe the party line, like the Blue Dog Democrats who had big problems with ObamaCare because of their principles. They were ignored or appeased or lied to.

[Clocker]

but had the charity in his heart to help me.

That's the heart of liberalism, providing elite guidance to those of lesser ability.

[Tom]

I think with Pelosi, it is nothing more than a mental deficiency -the bitch is frigging stupid! :D

[PhantomOnTour]

It kills you that your boy is total ass and a complete failure, doesn't it? :lol: :lol: :lol:
You got it - whatever the Big Monkey Man says! (now where's that link to the song Monkey Man by Toots & The Maytals)

ayayaaaay, huggin' up the big monkey man :D

It's sunday funday baby, only 52 of 'em a year, why waste it whining about Liberals? :lol:

EDIT:
or for that matter, why waste it responding to those who whine about Liberals :blush: :D

[Clocker]

The very use of the term "Plantation mentality" is an insult to liberals

Right. It must not have been Joe Biden who talked down to a black audience, saying, "They’re going to put y’all back in chains.”

It must not have been Harry Reid that said that Obama was 'light-skinned' and had 'no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one'.

It must have been a conservative lie to claim that Joe Biden called Obama the "first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy."

[RunForTheRoses]

In some cases yes. Even though you have attempted to besmirch his liberalism, he was a liberal

That blurb you quoted is incorrect, in fact nonsense. I have never see Keynes referred to as a Monetarist, he was in fact quite ignorant of monetary policy effects. Monetarism was begun after Keynes by Milton Friedman. Friedman and JFK were contemporaries but I do not believe simpatico. Milton had this to say about JFK's inaugural address;
http://spectator.org/blog/24850/milton-friedman-jfks-inaugural-speech
"In a much quoted passage in his inaugural address, President Kennedy said, "Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country." Neither half of the statement expresses a relation between the citizen and his government that is worthy of the ideals of free men in a free society. The paternalistic "what your country can do for you" implies that government is the patron, the citizen the ward, a view that is at odds with the free man's belief in his own responsibility for his own destiny. The organismic, "what you can do for your 'country" implies the government is the master or the deity, the citizen, the servant or the votary.
To the free man, the country is the collection of individuals who compose it, not something over and above them. He is proud of a common heritage and loyal to common traditions. But he regards government as a means, an instrumentality, neither a grantor of favors and gifts, nor a master or god to be blindly worshipped and served. He recognizes no national goal except as it is the consensus of the goals that the citizens severally serve. He recognizes no national purpose except as it is the consensus of the purposes for which the citizens severally strive.

The free man will ask neither what his country can do for him nor what he can do for his country. He will ask rather "What can I and my compatriots do through government" to help us discharge our individual responsibilities, to achieve our several goals and purposes, and above all, to protect our freedom? And he will accompany this question with another: How can we keep the government we create from becoming a Frankenstein that will destroy the very freedom we establish it to protect?

If you'd like to learn more about Monetarism:

http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/bios/Friedman.html

FTR, I think Friedman was too government heavy:
https://mises.org/journals/jls/16_4/16_4_3.pdf

[Clocker]

The free man will ask neither what his country can do for him nor what he can do for his country. He will ask rather "What can I and my compatriots do through government" to help us discharge our individual responsibilities, to achieve our several goals and purposes, and above all, to protect our freedom? And he will accompany this question with another: How can we keep the government we create from becoming a Frankenstein that will destroy the very freedom we establish it to protect?



I wonder what Milton would think about the current office holder, who whines about the Constitution being a charter of negative liberties, which “says what the states can’t do to you (and) what the Federal government can’t do to you, but doesn’t say what the Federal government or State government must do on your behalf”.

[Tom]

The very use of the term "Plantation mentality" is an insult to liberals

Even when it has been earned?
Seems to me that libs take for granted Blacks, women, illegals, the poor.....yet help none of them.

Would you buy a used car from a liberal?

[Clocker]

Would you buy a used car from a liberal?

Who the hail would buy a used Chevy Volt? :eek:

[Spiderman]

The difference between your post and the OP is that BlueShoe added the link from which the statements are attributed. Your post however would indicate that these are your thoughts which clearly they are not.

The list of liberal/ conservative opposites (page 1 of your OP) was updated 40 years ago from a renowned statesman and cannot be attributed to any one source or defined group. I totally endorse all, item by item. If you choose to ignore commenting on any or all that is your choice. It was your choice to promote a hack babbler who wrote in an incendiary manner.

[JustRalph]

Oh yeah, right.
I'm sure you life is just one hell on earth.

I just have these images of conservatives hunkering down in their shelters.
Not daring to surface until their guy is in the WH.

Only if they applied for tax free status within the last four years

[HUSKER55]

Who the hail would buy a used Chevy Volt? :eek:


WHO would buy a new one......

[reckless]

Right. It must not have been Joe Biden who talked down to a black audience, saying, "They’re going to put y’all back in chains.”

It must not have been Harry Reid that said that Obama was 'light-skinned' and had 'no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one'.

It must have been a conservative lie to claim that Joe Biden called Obama the "first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy."

Biden also said that Obama, 'smelled nice.'

[Clocker]

Biden also said that Obama, 'smelled nice.'

Too much information. :eek:

[PaceAdvantage]

Oh yeah, right.
I'm sure you life is just one hell on earth.

I just have these images of conservatives hunkering down in their shelters.
Not daring to surface until their guy is in the WH.Don't worry. We're conserving in that area. We're using the bunkers left behind by liberals during the Bush years...

[Tom]

Do we sound like we are hunkering down? :lol:
I guess we better step it up a notch if you are confused.