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Clocker
07-14-2014, 10:42 AM
The DOJ has sent an investigator to Norfolk, NE (http://www.omaha.com/news/nebraska/justice-department-enters-fray-over-th-of-july-parade-float/article_3618cfc7-913b-5f4a-af50-348e48e76c5a.html), to look into a July 4th parade float that featured an outhouse labelled "Obama Presidential Library".

The department sent a member of its Community Relations Service team, which gets involved in discrimination disputes, to a Thursday meeting about the issue. Also at the meeting were the NAACP, the Norfolk mayor and The Independent Order of Odd Fellows.

The Odd Fellows organized the parade. One of the floats included a zombie-like mannequin standing near an outhouse labeled “Obama Presidential Library.”


The float’s creator, Dale Remmich, has said the mannequin depicted himself, not President Barack Obama. He said he is upset with the president’s handling of the Veterans Affairs Department.




You wonder what goes through their minds. :rolleyes:

RunForTheRoses
07-14-2014, 11:07 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/eric-holder-stands-controversial-nation-cowards-speech-165007249.html

Holder also stood firm on his refusal to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the IRS, which faces allegations that Lois Lerner, a former agency official, covered up its targeting of conservative non-profit groups.

Holder said that a special prosecutor is not necessary because FBI agents are “doing a good, professional job.”

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Yep. They're doing a good, professional job of delaying, denying, and deleting the facts in multiple scandals, especially the IRS mess. The more politically ideological an administrator is, the more likely he is to break the law in order to have an outcome he or she desires.

The overt harassment of the conservative groups by the IRS was no act of incompetence. It was a deliberate process of denying those organizations a legitimate voice in the election process. Holder, Lerner and Obama are all three smug, self righteous extremists who believe the end they seek justifies the means, regardless how much those means violate the rights of the American citizens they oppose. Keep your eyes on the IRS scandal. That's the one that will tell all about this administration and "all the president's men"....... and women.


We are a nation of cowards but not for the reasons Holder asserts. We cannot speak freely about issues because when one does, they are labeled RACIST. I'd love to ask the peace-loving Muslims why they are not vocally condemning the radical who hurt/kill people but to do so must make me a racist. I'd like us to ask the newly elected leader of a national teacher's organization why she addressed her group speaking Spanish knowing full-well that the vast majority of the people in the room didn't speak Spanish - but to do so would make me a racist. I'd like to know why 70% of African American babies are born to single mothers (it's 50% for all babies - sad) but to do so must make me a racist. I'd like to know why it's not racist for a political party to assume minorities are not capable of obtaining ID to vote. We DO have a lot of work to do and until and unless we can have real discussions from ALL sides, we will continue to see the divide that Holder counts on.

Tom
07-14-2014, 11:13 AM
The DOJ has sent an investigator to Norfolk, NE (http://www.omaha.com/news/nebraska/justice-department-enters-fray-over-th-of-july-parade-float/article_3618cfc7-913b-5f4a-af50-348e48e76c5a.html), to look into a July 4th parade float that featured an outhouse labelled "Obama Presidential Library".

Another direct attack on the First Amendment.
So what is if WAS Obama standing there?

The DOJ is a complete joke and waste of money.

Clocker
07-14-2014, 11:48 AM
We DO have a lot of work to do and until and unless we can have real discussions from ALL sides, we will continue to see the divide that Holder counts on.

That would be the divide that Holder creates. He is the most divisive official in the federal government within memory. And he appears to be totally clueless about how much of it he brings on himself. Like Obama, nothing is ever his fault, so it must be racism.

“For whatever reason, [some] Republicans decided early on that this was a president they were just simply not going to cooperate with,” Holder said.

Not so. A lot of Republicans decided early on that many of his policies were unacceptable as proposed, such as more gun control, ObamaCare, cap and trade, and others. These were issues Republicans and many independents had opposed for years, and they determined early on that Obama was not willing to cooperate on them. The lack of cooperation on the right was an effect, not a cause.

Obama did not and does not understand how the office of the president operate. It operates on consensus, not on command. All of the effective presidents in recent years were not only great deal makers, they enjoyed the process. Obama hates the very idea of compromise, and goes off and pouts if he doesn't get his way.

NJ Stinks
07-14-2014, 12:22 PM
Not so. A lot of Republicans decided early on that many of his policies were unacceptable as proposed, such as more gun control, ObamaCare, cap and trade, and others. These were issues Republicans and many independents had opposed for years, and they determined early on that Obama was not willing to cooperate on them. The lack of cooperation on the right was an effect, not a cause.

Obama did not and does not understand how the office of the president operate. It operates on consensus, not on command. All of the effective presidents in recent years were not only great deal makers, they enjoyed the process. Obama hates the very idea of compromise, and goes off and pouts if he doesn't get his way.

At least Obama didn't forget why he was elected president twice!

It may be news to you, Clocker, but Obama won the majority of the votes in both elections in part because of his stance on issues like "gun control, ObamaCare, cap and trade, and others".

So tell us again who exactly is pouting and not compromising? :rolleyes:

tucker6
07-14-2014, 12:27 PM
At least Obama didn't forget why he was elected president twice!

It may be news to you, Clocker, but Obama won the majority of the votes in both elections in part because of his stance on issues like "gun control, ObamaCare, cap and trade, and others".

So tell us again who exactly is pouting and not compromising? :rolleyes:
you really believe people went to the polls and voted for Obama for cap and trade? For Obamacare benefits?

Or maybe most people voted party line and/or are takers of the govt dole.

Tom
07-14-2014, 12:36 PM
So tell us again who exactly is pouting and not compromising? :rolleyes:

Seriously?
It is Obama.
I thought that was pretty obvious.
Unless he is lying all the time.
Which is it.....ineffective or a liar?

NJ Stinks
07-14-2014, 12:48 PM
you really believe people went to the polls and voted for Obama for cap and trade? For Obamacare benefits?

Or maybe most people voted party line and/or are takers of the govt dole.

You can deny all you want. Independents determine national elections.

NJ Stinks
07-14-2014, 12:51 PM
Seriously?
It is Obama.
I thought that was pretty obvious.
Unless he is lying all the time.
Which is it.....ineffective or a liar?

Here's a tip. If you think it's obvious, do yourself a favor and think again. :rolleyes:

Clocker
07-14-2014, 01:07 PM
Obama won the majority of the votes in both elections in part because of his stance on issues like "gun control, ObamaCare, cap and trade, and others".



How many people that voted for Obama really knew what his stance on those issues were, and what the details of this policies would do?

Very few. People didn't vote for Obama's gun control plans, they voted for his empty promise that there would never again be a school shooting in this country, something none of his proposals could come close to accomplishing.

People didn't vote for ObamaCare, they voted for a fraudulent promise of a magic pill that would reduce their insurance costs by $2500 a year and would let them keep their current plan and their current doctor. Period.

People didn't vote for cap and trade. Most were totally clueless about what it was. They voted for an empty promise to slay a mythical dragon. They voted for a man who swore that the moment he was elected, the oceans would stop rising and the planet would begin to heal. They voted for a faith healer.

They were sold a bill of goods, and more and more people today are having buyer's remorse. The word is out, even in the liberal media: the emperor has no clothes.

BlueShoe
07-14-2014, 01:37 PM
You wonder what goes through their minds. :rolleyes:
Minds?? :confused: :rolleyes:

Clocker
07-14-2014, 01:42 PM
Independents determine national elections.

That's true, but it is true for different reasons now than it was 20 years ago. The new generation of voters, the Millennials, more and more tend not to identify themselves in terms of political party. Technically, they are independents. Functionally, they are progressives. Unfortunately, they are low information voters (LIVs) who flocked to Obama on the basis of charisma and wild-eyed optimism. They are now back living in Mommy's basement, trying to figure out how to get a decent job with a fluff degree and how to get rid of their student loan debt. And what to do about health insurance when they turn 26 and get dropped from Mommy's policy.

Tom
07-14-2014, 01:51 PM
Here's a tip. If you think it's obvious, do yourself a favor and think again. :rolleyes:

It is Obama who always whining that Congress will not work with him.
Sorry, your perception is biased too much politically to see the truth.

Clocker
07-14-2014, 02:04 PM
It is Obama who always whining that Congress will not work with him.

And he is never in Washington when he starts whining about the inability to get anything done in Washington. He is always off somewhere making a speech on a college campus before attending a couple of Democratic fund raisers.

BlueShoe
07-14-2014, 02:52 PM
Holder addresses the big problems? Let's start at the top, Holder is the big problem.

HUSKER55
07-14-2014, 03:33 PM
I am sure that outhouse in Norfolk Nebraska did not contain weapons of mass destruction. (well...maybe) :D

Do you realize how insecure a person has to be to investigate a float in a parade? :lol:

davew
07-14-2014, 03:44 PM
you really believe people went to the polls and voted for Obama for cap and trade? For Obamacare benefits?

Or maybe most people voted party line and/or are takers of the govt dole.


or didn't even vote themselves and had an acorn proxy vote for them (without them even knowing)

tucker6
07-14-2014, 03:53 PM
You can deny all you want. Independents determine national elections.
I would hazard that less than 10% of the US population even understand what cap and trade is about, let alone supporting/opposing it.

Clocker
07-14-2014, 04:23 PM
I would hazard that less than 10% of the US population even understand what cap and trade is about, let alone supporting/opposing it.

Let alone grasping the impact on their cost of living. All they know is that they get a warm and fuzzy feeling when they sit around the camp fire and talk about healing Mother Earth. And Obama and Big Al told them it was true.

Let's have another round of Kool Aid and another verse of Kumbaya.

tucker6
07-14-2014, 04:38 PM
Let alone grasping the impact on their cost of living. All they know is that they get a warm and fuzzy feeling when they sit around the camp fire and talk about healing Mother Earth. And Obama and Big Al told them it was true.

Let's have another round of Kool Aid and another verse of Kumbaya.
Hey there, people like Cappy and Mostie like kumbaya around the campfire. Keeps the evil, racist, anti-gaia Koch brothers away. They are the devil. :lol:

You are right that everyone wants to protect mother Earth from the ills of the human plague, but when you attach dollars to it, not so much. The socialists/democrats (little difference these days) have gotten very good about never discussing the remediation costs in the same conversation as the perceived problems. GOP candidates would do well to note this and speak of it. Support for all such programs falls markedly when you start talking money.

Clocker
07-14-2014, 04:47 PM
The socialists/democrats (little difference these days) have gotten very good about never discussing the remediation costs in the same conversation as the perceived problems.

There are no costs if you are using OPM: Other Peoples Money. Just got to make those rich bastages pay their fair share.

The rich bastages just eat those costs, you know. They never pass them on to the common folk.

tucker6
07-14-2014, 05:34 PM
There are no costs if you are using OPM: Other Peoples Money. Just got to make those rich bastages pay their fair share.

The rich bastages just eat those costs, you know. They never pass them on to the common folk.
... and yet those rich bastages find a way to give more philanthropically as a percentage of wealth than do other income groups. As for the liberals/socialists, as you say, why spend your own money on the poor when you can spend your own money getting people elected to take the money from others. A nifty trick.

mostpost
07-14-2014, 06:15 PM
... and yet those rich bastages find a way to give more philanthropically as a percentage of wealth than do other income groups. As for the liberals/socialists, as you say, why spend your own money on the poor when you can spend your own money getting people elected to take the money from others. A nifty trick.
A rich bastage who makes $200,000 a year (after taxes) gives $20,000 to charity. Which he deducts on his taxes. He is left with $180,000 to live on. A poor bastage makes $20,000 a year. (again after taxes) He gives $1,000 to charity. That person can itemize too, but chances are he will be better off just taking the standard deduction. Anyway, he ends up with $19,000 to live on for the year.

We have one person who contributes 10% of his after tax income and one person who contributes 5% of his after tax income. Person # one gets a break on his taxes. Person #2 does not. Person #1 has 9.5 times the money remaining after the charitable contributions are made as compared to person #2. Who is contributing more? The answer is obvious to everyone except you.

ETA: Of course rich people contribute more to charity than poor people. That's what charity is; people who have helping people who have not.

johnhannibalsmith
07-14-2014, 06:32 PM
A rare example in which wealth isn't equated with greed for the sake of making a point.

tucker6
07-14-2014, 06:35 PM
A rare example in which wealth isn't equated with greed for the sake of making a point.
noticed that too eh?

GaryG
07-14-2014, 07:23 PM
I would like to have seen the croud reactions as the outhouse went by....:lol: :lol:

tucker6
07-14-2014, 07:43 PM
I'm still trying to figure out what the racist bent is to an outhouse that Holder sees. When I was growing up, we had an outhouse, and it got used. And I'm not black. Symbolizing that Obama is a stinkhole isn't a crime. it's the truth.

Clocker
07-14-2014, 09:20 PM
I'm still trying to figure out what the racist bent is to an outhouse that Holder sees.

If your only tool is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Holder's only tool is the race card.

It's racist when it happens to Obama, but OK when it happens to Bush (http://libertyunyielding.com/2014/07/07/parade-float-draws-criticism-libs-short-memory/).

tucker6
07-14-2014, 09:28 PM
If your only tool is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Holder's only tool is the race card.

It's racist when it happens to Obama, but OK when it happens to Bush (http://libertyunyielding.com/2014/07/07/parade-float-draws-criticism-libs-short-memory/).
Obama and Holder are setting back race relations. And to think he campaigned on being someone who could unite the races. Hardly! Not with his racist Reverend Wright in tow. I defy our lefty friends on here to tell me who in public life has uttered more racist innuendos than Obama in the last six years.

TJDave
07-14-2014, 09:39 PM
It's racist when it happens to Obama, but OK when it happens to Bush (http://libertyunyielding.com/2014/07/07/parade-float-draws-criticism-libs-short-memory/).

http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/x/B/clinton_memorial.jpg

Tom
07-14-2014, 09:41 PM
Holder is an ass.
We should turn him over to the Mexican authorities for illegal gun running.
And hope they hand the sob of a bitch.

tucker6
07-14-2014, 09:45 PM
http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/x/B/clinton_memorial.jpg
Why do we continue to disparage someone who was simply trying to resuscitate the president. Not her fault that she chose to resuscitate the wrong thing. Mistakes happen. :rolleyes: