The Steve Coburn Rant

[NY BRED]

The point system and fresh horses competing against weary horses in
the first two legs of the Triple Crown is an issue which was known to
all trainers and owners, including the DAP team.

The blast leveled on national Television as a result of CC's loss
was obviously made by a frustrated owner, somehow thinking CC
should have beaten his previous competitors based on HIS perception of a
level playing field.

CC lost this race based upon the rigors of racing
on three tracks at different distances and surfaces in a five week
period, which is the atypical schedule for 3 year olds other than
racing in this event.

At the end of the day, the post placed Victor in a no win position. Going
to the lead , opening up and losing to one of the closers as against
the usual stalking approach would create open hostility from
all parties who would blame the jockey, not the horse for losing
the triple crown.

Long story short, the same result could have evolved with
CC racing against his former opponents, as he appeared to
have little energy through the middle part of this race.

It will be interesting to see if CC goes to the Breeders Cup this
year, and if DAP elects to sell an interest in CC.

[Horseplayersbet.com]

The rant was ridiculous but apparently California grabbed himself leaving the gate. That could have cost him the race, not the competition.
Here is a picture of his affected foot heading towards the barn after the race
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpkfuR5CAAATwo_.jpg

There is a DRF story about it
http://www.drf.com/news/california-chrome-grabbed-quarter-during-belmont

[TheEdge07]

This morning he called "THEM" cheaters..

To the fans who are casual horseplayers there beliefs are confirmed.This Fing idiot.

[DeltaLover]

This morning he called "THEM" cheaters..

To the fans who are casual horseplayers there beliefs are confirmed.This Fing idiot.

links?

[cosmicway]

Espinoza lost his place like a fool.
He 'd have to hail a rocket to make it from four wide.
If close to the rail could CC pierce through the opposition ?
That's an imponderable but overall he did not have the measure of the field in this race. The 4/5 price was the result of overhype.

[TheEdge07]

links?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/california-chrome-owner-part-class--part-ass-in-defeat-010645280.html

oburn called Tonalist's connections "cowards" on NBC shortly after the race, and he continued the assault to anyone who asked him a question. The feel-good story of the spring ended with a finger-jabbing fusillade of profanity.

"They're a bunch of goddamn cheaters," Coburn told Yahoo Sports. "If your horse doesn't even have the points to run in the Kentucky Derby, he shouldn't be able to run in the Triple Crown. They're goddamn cheaters."

[classhandicapper]

The biggest irony of this discussion is that years ago handicappers and trainers believed you could NOT will the Belmont off a 5 week layoff by skipping the Preakness. The thought was that the horse would not be fit enough to run 1 1/2 miles off 5 weeks. Then Bobby Frankel did it with Empire Maker (my memory might be off on who did it first in recent years) and it became the opposite. Now everyone believes that skipping the Belmont and going in fresh is an advantage.

The Peter Pan has long been a path for late developers to take a shot at Derby/Preakness winners. Coastal beat Spectacular Bid as a fresh peaking horses coming out of the PP.

[TheEdge07]

This idiot was worst on espn this morning...

"Its like playing a kid basketball whos on a wheelchair"

Steve go away..Hes made it about himself..

[cosmicway]

Chrome did n't fold way out of sight like other 2/3 winners in the past did.
He put up a fight but he just was n't the horse for the course imho.

[ArlJim78]

I'm CoBurned out. He has passion but he's ungracious and a blowhard.

[cosmicway]

He's right but that's what tc is all about - defeat the unscrupulous court challengers.

[DeltaLover]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/california-chrome-owner-part-class--part-ass-in-defeat-010645280.html

oburn called Tonalist's connections "cowards" on NBC shortly after the race, and he continued the assault to anyone who asked him a question. The feel-good story of the spring ended with a finger-jabbing fusillade of profanity.

"They're a bunch of goddamn cheaters," Coburn told Yahoo Sports. "If your horse doesn't even have the points to run in the Kentucky Derby, he shouldn't be able to run in the Triple Crown. They're goddamn cheaters."

This i have seen of course, I mean links about this morning's interview

[TheEdge07]

This i have seen of course, I mean links about this morning's interview
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDMQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nydailynews.com%2Fblogs%2Fthe races%2Fcalifornia-chrome-owner-steve-coburn-stinging-belmont-stakes-loss-blog-entry-1.1821625&ei=KmeUU_v5PJOEqgaNh4HICA&usg=AFQjCNFewQQJUsRh18i4faeT0aIlem5DAw&bvm=bv.68445247,d.b2k

Same as espn interview

[MutuelClerk]

You find out more about people in adversity then when things go well. That seems to be the case here. His wife tried bailing him out yesterday, he just shooed her away and ranted on. At least the trainer has showed some class. I feel cheaper for liking these guys. Coburn bought into all the hype. He thought he had the best mousetrap. Win with class, lose with more. Shame, great run, classless ending. I would also recommend no drinking before interviews.

[Shelby]

His wife tried hard to get him to stop. I told my husband I'd have kicked him in the back of his knee so he'd collapse if he was spouting off like that on national tv lol. I wonder what his partner thinks?

[judd]

His wife tried hard to get him to stop. I told my husband I'd have kicked him in the back of his knee so he'd collapse if he was spouting off like that on national tv lol. I wonder what his partner thinks?
imagine that ride home :lol:

[cosmicway]

Espinoza gives interview here:

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/videos/13302/belmont-stakes-146-press-conference

I think what he says in his horse had no finishing power.
He had to opt for one of two unknowns, go round the outside or wait.
He thought the forcing tactic was more likely to pay off.

[mountainman]

Just a taste of what racing officials regularly endure from sore losers behind the scenes. Owners often lash out with insane rants against a set of rules and a system they were well aware of beforehand. People that don't get their way want to change the rules, blame others, and cry FOUL. Welcome to my world.

[bks]

The subtext of his entire narrative was always "I deserve this," not, "boy are we extremely lucky," as it should have been. While he was having success, he could play at humility. But he always seemed one little bit of adversity away from turning sour.

Good riddance. But if he doesn't have a stroke he'll be back.

Last thought: I have to believe there's a good-sized part of Perry Martin that's thrilled to be temporarily done with the man. Martin seemed very eager to 'get back to work' when interviewed yesterday. I read that as: "can't wait to get away from Steve."

[cosmicway]

Just a taste of what racing officials regularly endure from sore losers behind the scenes. Owners often lash out with insane rants against a set of rules and a system they were well aware of beforehand. People that don't get their way want to change the rules, blame others, and cry FOUL. Welcome to my world.

Well, in racing that has two angles ...
Those crazy folks are crazy, because they give authority the chance to commit all sorts of misdemeanour. The authorities say "look how stupid the are", like you did, and carry on.

[NY BRED]

I missed the information regarding CC grabbing a quarter
as I left after the results to grab dinner.

No doubt the injury affected the horse's chances, not sure
if the finish would have been closer.

Steve should retract his "coward" statement and admit being
out of line , would be a great Vegas/Betfair prop bet..

That said, I've doubts if Art Sherman and/or Victor will remain
with this horse as Mr. C. appears to be out of control: another loss,
and they or Willie or the wife could be the next target.

Perhaps PETA should branch out its services to protect the wives of owners
when events like this develop?

:eek: :eek: :ThmbDown:

[dylbert]

Two goobers get lucky and catch lightning in a bottle. The lightning concludes. Would someone let these goobers know that their 15 minutes of fame ended when Tonalist passed under wire yesterday. Next story...

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