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JJMartin
06-04-2014, 11:58 PM
http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/static.cgi?page=calltimeschart

ultracapper
06-05-2014, 12:42 AM
It matches the one I have had taped to a 3 ring binder for over 20 years.

Overlay
06-05-2014, 12:47 AM
http://www1.drf.com/misc/pointsofcall.pdf

It also appears to agree completely with the points-of-call/fractional-times chart at the link, published by the Daily Racing Form.

PhantomOnTour
06-05-2014, 01:19 AM
Kinda screwy at 5.5f, isn't it?
The 2nd call is at the 3/8 but the corresponding split is for 1/2 (or 4/8).

JJMartin
06-05-2014, 02:23 AM
so the 1st call fractional time is not the same location on the track as the 1st call for position at 1 mile

cj
06-05-2014, 04:24 AM
so the 1st call fractional time is not the same location on the track as the 1st call for position at 1 mile

They are the same in PPs.

JJMartin
06-05-2014, 07:11 PM
So for a 1 mile race we have the ST call at 1/4 and the frac time at 1C is at 1/4 then isn't the dist. at 1C AT 1/2 MILE?

cj
06-05-2014, 07:17 PM
So for a 1 mile race we have the ST call at 1/4 and the frac time at 1C is at 1/4 then isn't the dist. at 1C AT 1/2 MILE?

IT doesn't work like that, because for a 1 mile race the Start Call now has beaten lengths attached and it corresponds to the first 1/4 mile of the race. Check your PMs.

JJMartin
06-05-2014, 07:21 PM
ok, I'm not disputing that but even if the Start call has beaten lengths, the 1C poc and the 1C time are not the same first call. It is not the same place on the track in other words.

cj
06-05-2014, 07:26 PM
ok, I'm not disputing that but even if the Start call has beaten lengths, the 1C poc and the 1C time are not the same first call. It is not the same place on the track in other words.

The start call matches up with the 2f fraction for routes, and it goes in order from there. Don't get hung up on the designations of 1C and 2C, they aren't really accurate and (I think) come from older days when PPs didn't contain as much information.

JJMartin
06-05-2014, 07:27 PM
ok just replied to PM