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Hurricane
05-01-2014, 05:39 PM
Got a flyer in the mail from John Conte, who won some handicapping contests and is now a tout. It's a handicapping book he is selling for $27.95 or as an ebook for $19.95.

Was wondering if anyone had any insight into this book or used it so far.

plainolebill
05-02-2014, 04:46 AM
Got a flyer in the mail from John Conte, who won some handicapping contests and is now a tout. It's a handicapping book he is selling for $27.95 or as an ebook for $19.95.

Was wondering if anyone had any insight into this book or used it so far.

Haven't read the book (yet) but he surely walks his talk.

Racey
05-02-2014, 08:37 PM
his hit rate is similar to his performance on Horseplayers,,,,run away fast. :lol:

BettinBilly
05-05-2014, 10:27 PM
There is another thread somewhere on Pace that discusses the same flyer, if I am not mistaken.

I have respect for John Conte, but at this point in my Handicapping Library, I'd need something fairly Earth-Shaking for me to be adding another book.

However, that's me. You may find the book insightful. And if you do, please let us know.

-Billy

Racey
05-06-2014, 11:28 PM
Pace handicapping longshots...a very worthwhile book all here should read it.

Overlay
05-10-2014, 12:51 PM
Got a flyer in the mail from John Conte, who won some handicapping contests and is now a tout. It's a handicapping book he is selling for $27.95 or as an ebook for $19.95.
The postcard pitch that I received today lists the hard-copy price as $24.95. (I stopped reading when the pitch mentioned using ten red flags that eliminate sure losers.)

jk3521
05-10-2014, 05:13 PM
The postcard pitch that I received today lists the hard-copy price as $24.95. (I stopped reading when the pitch mentioned using ten red flags that eliminate sure losers.)

Yeah, checking each horse in the Derby field for ten red flags could take a while.

Overlay
05-10-2014, 09:01 PM
Yeah, checking each horse in the Derby field for ten red flags could take a while.
I agree with you, but that's not what I had mainly in mind. Regardless of how long it would take you to look for those "red flags", I've found that methodologies that operate on an elimination basis like that tend to leave you with chalk horses that are obvious to everyone, and that may have a good chance of winning, but that still don't win often enough at high-enough odds to compensate for the losses from the times when (for whatever reason) they don't perform as expected. Meanwhile, horses that you discard out-of-hand because of a single such "red flag", without even bothering to take a close look at their overall records, may not be the most likely winner of the race, but may have a better chance of winning than their odds indicate, and win often enough at higher odds to produce an overall profit.

pandy
05-11-2014, 12:14 AM
Pace handicapping longshots...a very worthwhile book all here should read it.


Thanks for the kind words.

Racey
05-11-2014, 01:20 PM
The book is terrific... best of luck with your new book and its impending success.

infrontby1
05-11-2014, 02:22 PM
I've heard if you order the book, you'll also receive a signed magnifying glass from JC as well.

Speed Figure
05-11-2014, 02:44 PM
I've heard if you order the book, you'll also receive a signed magnifying glass from JC as well.
That's funny!! :lol:

dogkatcher
05-22-2014, 12:03 AM
I didn't care much for Conte at the beginning of the Horse Player's series but
enjoyed him toward the end.

Just curious what's going on with the book. I saw it on Ebay, then I went to
see some reviews on Amazon, and it's not up for sale on these sites any longer? Something legal come up, anyone know?

I was using that same magnifying glass before my cataract surgery, really sucked. Just wish I had half his hair left.

dogkatcher
ancient fart

Pensacola Pete
05-22-2014, 05:29 PM
John Conte = the wannabe Jim Feist of horse racing, in my opinion.

plainolebill
05-22-2014, 09:54 PM
I bought the book and I was not amazed - pretty routine stuff.

Llilgrassisgreener
09-10-2023, 02:00 PM
What does that even mean?

Llilgrassisgreener
09-10-2023, 02:02 PM
That's what he was known for. And you'll also get tanning lotion and hairspray.

Llilgrassisgreener
09-10-2023, 02:03 PM
It was naturally jet black and too...🙄🙄

Llilgrassisgreener
09-10-2023, 02:05 PM
What John forgot, these other handicappers will never know.

PaceAdvantage
09-10-2023, 02:37 PM
righting perceived wrongs after almost 10 years = fabulous

eldee wins
09-10-2023, 08:34 PM
Sad to say, I believe John Conte has passed away. A couple of years ago.

thaskalos
09-10-2023, 09:38 PM
John Conte passed away on November 4, 2020...at the age of 81.

SilverAlley
09-28-2023, 10:45 AM
What John forgot, these other handicappers will never know.

We're sure glad you stopped by to clear everything up. We've been waiting with bated breath since 2014.