cordep17
04-28-2014, 07:35 PM
I'll mostly be using this thread for my own use because I like the formatting and the ability to find what I've wrote, but I absolutely welcome anyone to share their thoughts.
4/29
Race 3
MC5000 at 5 1/2 F
http://www.brisnet.com/php/bw_pdf_viewer.php?track=FPK&race=3¶m1=422940¶m2=960¶m3=2320
:1: My Little Sunshine trained by Mike Campbell
Only tried 2 times at 3yrs old and didn't show much in either race.
-------first race ever, started slow, but finished stronger than the two she was able to beat with maybe one use of the whip.
-------second race ever, looked to me to have a very strange stride that would tire the horse. At the very least, she was rank. Had decent workout pattern going into those two races at Hawthorne, which she doesn't really have going into this one at a lesser level. Last year did train at FP like she has been lately with no drastic improvement. 0% and 16% trainer with horses coming off 90+ days rest. :ThmbDown:
:2: Happy Helen trained by Dawn Martin
Raced 3 times at 3years old at FP at the same distance. All three times, she exhibited an early speed running style.
First two races, wasn't able to finish strong against MdnSpWt8k company, but still had early speed and hung around long enough to make me think she was in good form and should be more than able to compete with mc5000 company. in the second race, may have fallen back early because of the pressure he was under being the inside horse. That could be the case again coming out of the 2 post.
----3rd race vs. mc4000 was able to take a step back and race as a midpack runner and finished 2nd, 8 lengths behind a horse who continued racing that season and was able to win a claiming race at Hawthorne. This makes me less concerned about the ? I raised above. Hopefully can drop back and succeed, because there is enough speed in this race
I think Dawn runs a smaller stable, so it seems reasonable to give a horse who didn't necessarily need it some time off to continue to grow. 3 good track works coming into the race make me confident in what this horse brings to a race in a class he seems to make sense in. Martin isn't the best layoff trainer at 5% 31%, but not unreasonable for a small sample size of 42. :ThmbUp:
:3: Bodacious Bets trained by Gene Allen
Talk about a head scratcher. Lets see if we can piece this thing together.
Raced twice at 2, in a SpWt49k and a SpWt60k, finishing a respectable 13 and 15 lengths back. She did show improvement between the first and second, being relatively closer to the front in the second for longer. He did that while being trained by a 4-0-0-0 trainer. Switched trainers and barns and raced close to the front as a three year on synthetics in a 40k and 50k at AP and Keen. Last race was in October of 2012. Had been under a successful trainer for 3 yr old season.
Now family owner by the Allen family and in a MC5000, a thousand levels lower than he used to be. has only had 2 works coming into the race, one a bullet at 3f. last was 6 days ago, and the previous 9 days before that. Not sure what to make of this. in previous races, a half mile was being run 3 whole seconds faster :confused: :ThmbUp: :ThmbDown: :ThmbUp: :confused:
:4: Tough Charmertrained by Thomas E. Trione
Raced once at 3, which makes this the second start. Pushed the tempo in a mc8000 at 5F and faded 15 lengths. gave it up semi-late in the race, but now he is going an extra half furlong. Always trained at FP even though her race was at Hawthorne. All three recent works are slightly slower than all from last year that prepped her for that fade. Not sure if she's coming as ready as she could. Where the speed is coming from in this one is a bit cloudy. has a semi-decent layoff trainer at 9% 33%
:5: Fabulous Fifi trained by Steve Fridley
Hasn't raced in 2 years. No where close in 2011 or 2012. No changes connections wise. No clear reason to give much of a chance besides the drop in class, but the fractional times in previous races weren't outrageous, so she lacks an excuse for being completely irrelevant. trainer did have a positive ROI w/ layoff horses, which I find interesting since the horse is 20/1 ML. Probably has had some horses who don't make a lot of sense off layoffs come in. :ThmbDown:
:6: Dixie Heirloom trained by Joseph Kanhai
5th race of the year. 1st w/ this trainer. Coming from a trainer with semi success to a trainer without a lot of experience, which makes it tough to tell what may or may not be about to change. Has had semi success in statebred races at Will Rodgers. Seems like a midpack runner who may be slightly outclassed in statebred maiden7500 races, which might be slightly tougher competition. Hasn't logged a work or race at FP for a new trainer. Changes in trainer habbits and a new place might make him need a few. :ThmbUp:
:7: Honey's Back trained by Scott Becker
Also a question mark. Started strong last year with a 3rd place finish, but worsened in the following couple races. Now coming off an 11 month layoff, she's dropping into the claiming ranks for the first time. Trainer expectations have been lowered. Has a nice 3f prep work 3 days before the race. Has logged 7 works, increasing in distance and at good intervals, in preparation for the start, which is why the trainer is the best at FP. 24% and 54% with layoff horses, Becker is always spotting his horses appropriately. Definitely fits and has a good chance.
---first race: fell back, swung out wide and finished a strong 3rd
---2nd race: Similar to the firstin a lot of ways. horse he barely necked out in first got him by 8 or so lengths. Was wide w/ traffic
---3rd race: got out of the gate faster and lost all relevance early :ThmbUp:
:8: Mostest trained by John Wainwright
third race of the year. couldn't keep up with Hawhtorne horses, so is coming back 10 days after last loss. Last, seemed to improve with slower pace slightly. Should get a slower pace in this one and fits well as the favorite. Has a lot of works at FP and a fair trainer, so I'd expect the horse to handle the track, at minimum, decently. one of the few horses that isn't a question mark.
:ThmbUp:
Front Runners: :3: :4:
Pressures: :2: :8:
Stalkers --> Midpackers: :6: :7:
Irrelevents: :1: :5:
The 3 is 12/1 on the ML. for a horse with the kind of experience he has against so much better, that line would be a gift. I can't, or at least don't, know how long the Allens have had the horse. Maybe they've given the horse the needed time off to work out the kinks it had been dealing with. She's definitely a risky wager in this one, but definitely a horse to watch in the future.
A lot of questions in this one and probably not worth taking a big risk
$8-win on 3
$2 exacta 2 7 8 / 3
$1 2 7 8 / 6
investment: $17
4/29
Race 3
MC5000 at 5 1/2 F
http://www.brisnet.com/php/bw_pdf_viewer.php?track=FPK&race=3¶m1=422940¶m2=960¶m3=2320
:1: My Little Sunshine trained by Mike Campbell
Only tried 2 times at 3yrs old and didn't show much in either race.
-------first race ever, started slow, but finished stronger than the two she was able to beat with maybe one use of the whip.
-------second race ever, looked to me to have a very strange stride that would tire the horse. At the very least, she was rank. Had decent workout pattern going into those two races at Hawthorne, which she doesn't really have going into this one at a lesser level. Last year did train at FP like she has been lately with no drastic improvement. 0% and 16% trainer with horses coming off 90+ days rest. :ThmbDown:
:2: Happy Helen trained by Dawn Martin
Raced 3 times at 3years old at FP at the same distance. All three times, she exhibited an early speed running style.
First two races, wasn't able to finish strong against MdnSpWt8k company, but still had early speed and hung around long enough to make me think she was in good form and should be more than able to compete with mc5000 company. in the second race, may have fallen back early because of the pressure he was under being the inside horse. That could be the case again coming out of the 2 post.
----3rd race vs. mc4000 was able to take a step back and race as a midpack runner and finished 2nd, 8 lengths behind a horse who continued racing that season and was able to win a claiming race at Hawthorne. This makes me less concerned about the ? I raised above. Hopefully can drop back and succeed, because there is enough speed in this race
I think Dawn runs a smaller stable, so it seems reasonable to give a horse who didn't necessarily need it some time off to continue to grow. 3 good track works coming into the race make me confident in what this horse brings to a race in a class he seems to make sense in. Martin isn't the best layoff trainer at 5% 31%, but not unreasonable for a small sample size of 42. :ThmbUp:
:3: Bodacious Bets trained by Gene Allen
Talk about a head scratcher. Lets see if we can piece this thing together.
Raced twice at 2, in a SpWt49k and a SpWt60k, finishing a respectable 13 and 15 lengths back. She did show improvement between the first and second, being relatively closer to the front in the second for longer. He did that while being trained by a 4-0-0-0 trainer. Switched trainers and barns and raced close to the front as a three year on synthetics in a 40k and 50k at AP and Keen. Last race was in October of 2012. Had been under a successful trainer for 3 yr old season.
Now family owner by the Allen family and in a MC5000, a thousand levels lower than he used to be. has only had 2 works coming into the race, one a bullet at 3f. last was 6 days ago, and the previous 9 days before that. Not sure what to make of this. in previous races, a half mile was being run 3 whole seconds faster :confused: :ThmbUp: :ThmbDown: :ThmbUp: :confused:
:4: Tough Charmertrained by Thomas E. Trione
Raced once at 3, which makes this the second start. Pushed the tempo in a mc8000 at 5F and faded 15 lengths. gave it up semi-late in the race, but now he is going an extra half furlong. Always trained at FP even though her race was at Hawthorne. All three recent works are slightly slower than all from last year that prepped her for that fade. Not sure if she's coming as ready as she could. Where the speed is coming from in this one is a bit cloudy. has a semi-decent layoff trainer at 9% 33%
:5: Fabulous Fifi trained by Steve Fridley
Hasn't raced in 2 years. No where close in 2011 or 2012. No changes connections wise. No clear reason to give much of a chance besides the drop in class, but the fractional times in previous races weren't outrageous, so she lacks an excuse for being completely irrelevant. trainer did have a positive ROI w/ layoff horses, which I find interesting since the horse is 20/1 ML. Probably has had some horses who don't make a lot of sense off layoffs come in. :ThmbDown:
:6: Dixie Heirloom trained by Joseph Kanhai
5th race of the year. 1st w/ this trainer. Coming from a trainer with semi success to a trainer without a lot of experience, which makes it tough to tell what may or may not be about to change. Has had semi success in statebred races at Will Rodgers. Seems like a midpack runner who may be slightly outclassed in statebred maiden7500 races, which might be slightly tougher competition. Hasn't logged a work or race at FP for a new trainer. Changes in trainer habbits and a new place might make him need a few. :ThmbUp:
:7: Honey's Back trained by Scott Becker
Also a question mark. Started strong last year with a 3rd place finish, but worsened in the following couple races. Now coming off an 11 month layoff, she's dropping into the claiming ranks for the first time. Trainer expectations have been lowered. Has a nice 3f prep work 3 days before the race. Has logged 7 works, increasing in distance and at good intervals, in preparation for the start, which is why the trainer is the best at FP. 24% and 54% with layoff horses, Becker is always spotting his horses appropriately. Definitely fits and has a good chance.
---first race: fell back, swung out wide and finished a strong 3rd
---2nd race: Similar to the firstin a lot of ways. horse he barely necked out in first got him by 8 or so lengths. Was wide w/ traffic
---3rd race: got out of the gate faster and lost all relevance early :ThmbUp:
:8: Mostest trained by John Wainwright
third race of the year. couldn't keep up with Hawhtorne horses, so is coming back 10 days after last loss. Last, seemed to improve with slower pace slightly. Should get a slower pace in this one and fits well as the favorite. Has a lot of works at FP and a fair trainer, so I'd expect the horse to handle the track, at minimum, decently. one of the few horses that isn't a question mark.
:ThmbUp:
Front Runners: :3: :4:
Pressures: :2: :8:
Stalkers --> Midpackers: :6: :7:
Irrelevents: :1: :5:
The 3 is 12/1 on the ML. for a horse with the kind of experience he has against so much better, that line would be a gift. I can't, or at least don't, know how long the Allens have had the horse. Maybe they've given the horse the needed time off to work out the kinks it had been dealing with. She's definitely a risky wager in this one, but definitely a horse to watch in the future.
A lot of questions in this one and probably not worth taking a big risk
$8-win on 3
$2 exacta 2 7 8 / 3
$1 2 7 8 / 6
investment: $17