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Drew
04-01-2014, 08:52 PM
What percentage of winners in maiden races are first time starters? What percentage of winners have run back within 45 days of their last start in non-mdn races?

Could anyone review this or do they have these numbers handy? i am just curious. I appreciate any help you can provide.

mikesal57
04-02-2014, 09:29 AM
What percentage of winners in maiden races are first time starters? What percentage of winners have run back within 45 days of their last start in non-mdn races?

Could anyone review this or do they have these numbers handy? i am just curious. I appreciate any help you can provide.


In you first scenario...

From July 2012 , I have 3073 winners from 32461 races which = .0947 %
(Note: There were 101 winners from 922 races @ .1095 % where the FTS wasn't in a maiden race)


Your second scenario...

I get 50,126 from 371,535 @ .1349 %

have fun

mike

Drew
04-02-2014, 12:34 PM
Thanks so much.

One more question. What percentage of races are won by a FTS or a horse who has run within 45 days?

mikesal57
04-02-2014, 12:48 PM
Thanks so much.

One more question. What percentage of races are won by a FTS or a horse who has run within 45 days?

You cant have a FTS in this one..lol

all horses that raced <= 45 days ....66,448 out of 499,000 .1332 %

Longshot6977
04-02-2014, 05:55 PM
.1332 %

Mike. Good info. Just for everyone's FYI when they review your numbers, the decimal needs to be moved to the right 2 places in your posts. Above should be 13.32%. :)

JustRalph
04-02-2014, 06:13 PM
On the first question

I get just under 10% are firsters

But I don't play all tracks, so this data set is limited to about 12 tracks over 2 years. But it looks to be close to what was posted earlier

mikesal57
04-03-2014, 08:28 AM
Just to expand a little on using 45 days..
Here is a chart with dirt only horses

I see that between 60-65 days can be just as good as 45..

But the limit is 120 days...

in my opinion :)

-999 30 -171114.90 682062.00 0.7491 45751 341031 .1342 1.0172
30 35 -12509.60 59910.00 0.7912 4213 29955 .1406 1.0664
35 40 -9965.40 49350.00 0.7981 3657 24675 .1482 1.1237
40 45 -9166.40 39616.00 0.7686 2825 19808 .1426 1.0814
45 50 -3836.80 23222.00 0.8348 1692 11611 .1457 1.1049
50 55 -3535.30 15366.00 0.7699 1057 7683 .1376 1.0431
55 60 -2414.00 14996.00 0.8390 1035 7498 .1380 1.0466
60 65 -2587.40 11786.00 0.7805 818 5893 .1388 1.0525
65 70 -1645.80 7472.00 0.7797 463 3736 .1239 0.9396
70 75 -1145.30 6754.00 0.8304 448 3377 .1327 1.0059
75 80 -1418.40 5976.00 0.7627 363 2988 .1215 0.9211
80 85 -919.40 4692.00 0.8040 285 2346 .1215 0.9211
85 90 -1440.90 3830.00 0.6238 217 1915 .1133 0.8592
90 95 -332.40 3984.00 0.9166 260 1992 .1305 0.9896
95 100 -1152.70 3374.00 0.6584 195 1687 .1156 0.8764
100 105 -433.60 2472.00 0.8246 153 1236 .1238 0.9386
105 110 -721.10 2664.00 0.7293 147 1332 .1104 0.8368
110 115 -582.90 2356.00 0.7526 160 1178 .1358 1.0298
115 120 -469.80 2082.00 0.7744 133 1041 .1278 0.9687
120 999999 -34185.60 116694.00 0.7070 5941 58347 .1018 0.7720


enjoy
Mike

mikesal57
04-03-2014, 08:32 AM
Just in case someone asks...

Turf numbers...looks just as good using 65..

-999 30 -25151.60 103476.00 0.7569 5697 51738 .1101 0.9725
30 35 -1993.50 12618.00 0.8420 792 6309 .1255 1.1087
35 40 -2890.50 11908.00 0.7573 766 5954 .1287 1.1363
40 45 -2059.40 10130.00 0.7967 663 5065 .1309 1.1561
45 50 -892.60 5866.00 0.8478 348 2933 .1186 1.0479
50 55 -475.40 3826.00 0.8757 256 1913 .1338 1.1819
55 60 -886.10 3594.00 0.7535 198 1797 .1102 0.9731
60 65 -384.60 2826.00 0.8639 198 1413 .1401 1.2376
65 70 -641.40 1694.00 0.6214 91 847 .1074 0.9489
70 75 -673.90 1490.00 0.5477 81 745 .1087 0.9603
75 80 -394.20 1340.00 0.7058 69 670 .1030 0.9096
80 85 -122.50 1008.00 0.8785 51 504 .1012 0.8937
85 90 -313.60 710.00 0.5583 38 355 .1070 0.9454
90 95 -389.30 770.00 0.4944 31 385 .0805 0.7111
95 100 -91.70 666.00 0.8623 37 333 .1111 0.9813
100 105 -156.10 480.00 0.6748 29 240 .1208 1.0672
105 110 -218.20 514.00 0.5755 19 257 .0739 0.6529
110 115 -45.20 518.00 0.9127 33 259 .1274 1.1253
115 120 -109.00 388.00 0.7191 20 194 .1031 0.9105
120 999999 -3937.60 18540.00 0.7876 907 9270 .0978 0.8641