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Valuist
04-11-2004, 10:39 AM
It will be interesting to see the speed figures assigned to these races. I think one would have to project a number for the Arkansas Derby, as was already mentioned in another thread, the track was definitely changing throughout the day. It started very sloppy but by Arky Derby time, the track was probably closer to good, or at worst, muddy.

Visually I was most impressed by Tapit. I picked him up on the far turn and he seemed to be doing it all on his own. I hated The Cliffs Edge going into the Blue Grass but a look at the charts shows the Blue Grass was probably the fastest of the 3 preps. The Wood was run in 1:49 3/5, the Blue Grass in 1:49 2/5 and the Arkansas Derby in 1:49 2/5.

The 7f races at both Aqu and Kee are solid evidence the track was definitely faster at Aqu: The Carter was run in 1:20 1/5, The Bay Shore in 1:20 3/5 and Clever Electrician's NW1X in 1:21 3/5. At Kee, Lion Tamer won the Gr 2 Commonwealth in 1:23.14. The races at the other distances further support that hypothesis.

The big gap from Lion Heart back to Limehouse further solidifies the belief that he and The Cliffs Edge will have the top figs from Saturday. Given The Cliffs Edge record at CD and the fact his trainer has won the race twice before, he may very well end up favored.

JimG
04-11-2004, 01:09 PM
Not to shift gears, but did anybody playing this find pk3 probables anywhere on the net? I was alive (and hit it but of course with the chalk in leg 3), but could not find anywhere I could see the probables. I tried YouBet, BrisBet, TVG, NTRA but no luck.

Seems to me if you are going to promote such a bet, that is the least that could be provided.

Jim

Tom
04-11-2004, 01:17 PM
Sounds like the least is less than that!:rolleyes:

Speed Figure
04-11-2004, 01:33 PM
The $1 pick 3 paid $179.50.

JimG
04-11-2004, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by Speed Figure
The $1 pick 3 paid $179.50.

Of course I know what it paid, after the fact. What I wanted to know was their any probables posted anywhere on the net prior to the 3rd leg?

Jim

howardjim
04-11-2004, 05:21 PM
The will pays were posted on YouBet under that race.

JimG
04-11-2004, 07:07 PM
Mark,

I looked there on YouBet Express with about 8 minutes to go and it listed no will pays on AQU Race 13. Did you actually see it there or were you using the standalone cd version of YouBet? I did not think to check there.

Jim

jackmc
04-11-2004, 10:18 PM
No WillPays are available thru the CD version of YouBet - JMc

howardjim
04-12-2004, 09:19 AM
Jim,

I saw the will pays and copied those live for me.It is possible they were under OP 9 rather than AQU 13,though I recall the latter.Have a good week.