No contest in rainbow 6

[davew]

bummer, prado falls and stewards declares no contest

what are FL rules, over $4 million in pool today.

[ldiatone]

when did he fall? i was watching the race via internet and all of sudden it went to a "pan" view. when did he fall?

[horses4courses]

when did he fall? i was watching the race via internet and all of sudden it went to a "pan" view. when did he fall?

At the first turn

[lamboguy]

they are paying off the whole rainbow because of the no-contest. the carryover remains the same.

that part of it is fair by me. i am not playing it anyway until the very last day like everyone else.

[davew]

all pool will be paid out7300 through 58K for P6 with all in 5th leg today - nice

[mickyfinn]

I had the exacta, totally pissed off right now. Since when is a race declared no contest because the jockey falls off?? I've never seen or heard of that before in my life. I never even heard an explanation from the track. Thanks for posting an explanation or I'd still be wondering.

Anybody know the Florida rules on this ?

[098poi]

I had the exacta, totally pissed off right now. Since when is a race declared no contest because the jockey falls off?? I've never seen or heard of that before in my life. I never even heard an explanation from the track. Thanks for posting an explanation or I'd still be wondering.

Anybody know the Florida rules on this ?

I don't think it is just because he fell off I think it is due to where. Although it looked like he was well past the finish line if he was still there or emergency personnel was on the track that could interfere with the horses coming down the stretch. The jockeys would slow down or change path due to where he was. I don't know if that happened specifically in this case but they have a short time to make the call and I think they made the proper one. My thoughts and prayers to Edgar.

[Tom]

Prado was still on the ground on the track, where the horses would be galloping out.

[goatchaser]

Just before the first turn of the 1 1/6th start. Prado goes down. he's not getting up . The track announcer says he's still down and not moving. As they hit the middle of the turn for home the announcer says that it's a no contest race declared by the stewards for the safety of the rider. They stayed away from putting a camera on Prado. I understand and wouldn't bitch if i had a ticket going. Right away...I started wondering...Why didn't the Announcer say more than that? Why didn't he keep saying....Something??? There should be something to let riders know about an event like this. I mean at the 1/6th pole they were still whipping. I think there has to be a way to let the Jocks know....I thought a certain type of horn that blows over the sound system....Lights places at strategic parts of the track that alert them....Just some thoughts I had watching it all happen.

[Stillriledup]

Just before the first turn of the 1 1/6th start. Prado goes down. he's not getting up . The track announcer says he's still down and not moving. As they hit the middle of the turn for home the announcer says that it's a no contest race declared by the stewards for the safety of the rider. They stayed away from putting a camera on Prado. I understand and wouldn't bitch if i had a ticket going. Right away...I started wondering...Why didn't the Announcer say more than that? Why didn't he keep saying....Something??? There should be something to let riders know about an event like this. I mean at the 1/6th pole they were still whipping. I think there has to be a way to let the Jocks know....I thought a certain type of horn that blows over the sound system....Lights places at strategic parts of the track that alert them....Just some thoughts I had watching it all happen.

There's a red flashing light, maybe more than one of them, at the track and if a horse loses the jock in the morning workouts, or a horse falls, they blare the horn and flash the lights to let everyone know to be alert and that "something" is going on......every jock knows about that light and the horn from being there in the morning, i've never seen that light/horn go off in the morning.

[Dahoss2002]

I had the exacta, totally pissed off right now. Since when is a race declared no contest because the jockey falls off?? I've never seen or heard of that before in my life. I never even heard an explanation from the track. Thanks for posting an explanation or I'd still be wondering.

Anybody know the Florida rules on this ?
I had it too and also got less on pic 3 although it gave me 3 pic 3s. Had 1-6-7 on p3 and exacta box. I think the will pay on the p3 with winner was about 229 but I got 50 x 3. Oh well.

[Stillriledup]

There's a red flashing light, maybe more than one of them, at the track and if a horse loses the jock in the morning workouts, or a horse falls, they blare the horn and flash the lights to let everyone know to be alert and that "something" is going on......every jock knows about that light and the horn from being there in the morning, i've never seen that light/horn go off in the morning.

Edit: meant to say i've never seen that light/horn go off in the afternoon during the races.

[Stillriledup]

I had the exacta, totally pissed off right now. Since when is a race declared no contest because the jockey falls off?? I've never seen or heard of that before in my life. I never even heard an explanation from the track. Thanks for posting an explanation or I'd still be wondering.

Anybody know the Florida rules on this ?

It was a no contest because the riders were instructed (not sure how, maybe the announcers voice or there was an outrider on the track?) to pull up, and on the replay you can see some jocks in the stretch not riding all out...they might have been able to still finish the race and then after the wire tell the jocks to pull up and avoid the fallen rider, but they couldnt take a chance, so they had to call off the race and tell the jocks to pull up.

Its a tough beat, welcome to the bad beat club, you arent the only member who's paid his dues into that esteemed fraternity.

[Grits]

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/83867/gulfstream-race-is-no-contest-after-spill

[devilsbag]

I had the exacta, totally pissed off right now. Since when is a race declared no contest because the jockey falls off?? I've never seen or heard of that before in my life. I never even heard an explanation from the track. Thanks for posting an explanation or I'd still be wondering.

Anybody know the Florida rules on this ?

This is the type of stuff that causes racing to lose customers. I've never seen a casino shut down slot machines just because a waitress tripped.

Angered by this whole incident, I found the rules in Florida governing this:
https://www.flrules.org/gateway/division.asp?DivID=250

61-D.016h Declaring a Mulligan
In the event that a jockey should fall off his mount during the running of a thoroughbred pari-mutuel event, the stewards shall let the race proceed for as long as it's convenient. In the event that the race develops in such a manner that indicates the stewards will not be cashing their tickets, they may in fact declare the race a no contest and all wagers will be refunded.

[Valuist]

I remember about 15 years ago, being alive in the last leg of a Pic 3 at Ellis. I had the horse on the lead turning for home, and another horse who was making a big move on the far turn. About 3/16ths to go, I see the rider on the leader stand up in the irons. Was really pissed, but it was a similar situation; rider down on the clubhouse turn.

I think there was another situation at Hawthorne many years ago when the tractor that carries the starting gate, had its engine die during the race. They finished the race as Phil Georgeff had the riders run thru the stretch in single file.

[andtheyreoff]

This is the type of stuff that causes racing to lose customers. I've never seen a casino shut down slot machines just because a waitress tripped.

Angered by this whole incident, I found the rules in Florida governing this:
https://www.flrules.org/gateway/division.asp?DivID=250

61-D.016h Declaring a Mulligan
In the event that a jockey should fall off his mount during the running of a thoroughbred pari-mutuel event, the stewards shall let the race proceed for as long as it's convenient. In the event that the race develops in such a manner that indicates the stewards will not be cashing their tickets, they may in fact declare the race a no contest and all wagers will be refunded.

What did you want the jockeys to do? Ride at full speed and risk hitting Prado and the attending personnel?

Those rules, by the way, do say this was the correct call.

[Si2see]

I had the exacta, totally pissed off right now. Since when is a race declared no contest because the jockey falls off?? I've never seen or heard of that before in my life. I never even heard an explanation from the track. Thanks for posting an explanation or I'd still be wondering.

Anybody know the Florida rules on this ?


IMO, there is no way to tell how the race would have ended.... Some riders and horses ( Paco Lopez aboard Mr. Candy ) stopped riding almost immediately when announced, others such as Elvis Truillo / Artempus and Luis Saez / Edison rode like it was the last race they will ever ride in !!

( I was very pissed when the race was stopped like that because of how much money I had riding on the race and sequence but life goes on, and I hope Edgar Prado recovers fully and fast )

[Tom]

You might not know this, but when a waitress trips in a casino, there are not usually 9-10 1,000 lbs. animals heading in her direction.

But know you know.
Carry on.

[cj]

You might not know this, but when a waitress trips in a casino, there are not usually 9-10 1,000 lbs. animals heading in her direction.

But know you know.
Carry on.

Depends how near she is to the buffet when she trips, no?

In all seriousness, not sure how anyone can complain about this one. It is the racetrack, shit happens.

[jdhanover]

Imagine if they let the race continued and one of the horses kicked/killed Prado or the emergency personnel or another accident happened. The screams would be very, very loud (and appropriately so) let alone how could the stewards live with themselves?
Some folks may have lost some $ but no way it is worth someone's life. IMO

[OTM Al]

Imagine if they let the race continued and one of the horses kicked/killed Prado or the emergency personnel or another accident happened. The screams would be very, very loud (and appropriately so) let alone how could the stewards live with themselves?
Some folks may have lost some $ but no way it is worth someone's life. IMO

It was a no contest. No one lost anything.

[JohnGalt1]

I give kudos to GP for the way they handled this, especially that they paid out the whole days pick six pool. I know it was the rule to do this but it was still the correct decision, and the winning betters got a bigger win than if it was part of the Rainbow 6 carryover pool.

[goatchaser]

You might not know this, but when a waitress trips in a casino, there are not usually 9-10 1,000 lbs. animals heading in her direction.

But know you know.
Carry on.
You've never seen my family when they see the Buffet.

[olddaddy]

I was ticked off when they turned for home and heard it being announced, no contest. (I had pacos horse keyed up) I didnt know prado was still on the track, when I found out that, I realized nothing else could have been done.