PA deleting post

[Amazin]

PA

I don't appreciate you deleting my post with Bubbles just because you don't like what I say.

Do you realize you are encouraging a minor to gamble?That's why I was being a little negative Mr. Magoo.

[JustRalph]

Originally posted by Amazin
PA

I don't appreciate you deleting my post with Bubbles just because you don't like what I say.

Do you realize you are encouraging a minor to gamble?That's why I was being a little negative Mr. Magoo.

yeah....right! I guess that trip he made to Saratoga last year was a summer camp too!!!!

[PaceAdvantage]

Can you not read Amazin? Did you think I was joking when I wrote that your replies were not welcome in that thread any longer?

I meant what I said, and I say what I mean.

And another thing.....

Encouraging a minor to gamble? Are you whacked out of your skull? Where have I ever encouraged a minor to gamble? Show me where, right now! I want to read the quote where I said "Hey Mr. Minor, you should go to the nearest betting window and bet with BOTH HANDS"

I'm starting to think you really are a simple little troll after all. All this time I actually thought you had a bit of intelligence.

[Bubbles]

Can someone please tell me what's going on here? I didn't see Amazin's post. I don't care how someone lets me know what's going on, by reply to this or PM or whatever, I just wanna know what's going on around me. What a concept, huh? LOL...j/k :) :D ;)

[SilverSow]

Hello...

Tell ya what... I don't think I need to explain: a.) my parenting philosophy, b.) the concept of doing things in moderation, and c.) making sure the people your kids associate with (especially online) are on the up & up; to anybody, least of all you, but I think Bubbles is doing better than OK on all counts - although I DO hope he ignores the people that (constructively - no flames, please!) recommended he turn his system into something resembling nuclear physics! This is an art, not a science (another new thread?).

I WILL offer that my son has NOT seen a betting window from the viewpoint of being in a line (to either bet OR cash) yet... he's budgeted an amount of money (a MINISCULE amount that he's pretty darned good at rationing out, but budgeting one's money would be yet ANOTHER pretty good thread in its own right!) for the days we go to the races, just like tons of kids are when you go to Saratoga in August, and I've been pretty successful at using the variety of people you see at the track as pretty good life examples, while still preserving what's turned out to be a nice way for us to bond as father & son.

So in what's going to be my ONLY response to this thread... you raise your kids your way, I'll do it mine... then come see me in a few years if you want to do a comparison of their individual characters and how it reflects on us as parents...

But I'll tell you one last thing... I have an idea there's a board full of folks here that'd be pleased to vouch for the type of person my kid is (me included, I'm pretty darned proud of how he's turning out)... so with your kid(s) sight unseen... I'm not losing, the best you'll do is tie!

Have a great day.. and again... I have no interest in pursuing this discussion... feel free to have the last word.

Dave

:mad:

[Amazin]

PA

You may not have kids like I do,but if you ever went to the track with kids,they are not allowed to bet under 18. They are not even admitted to the track without an adult accompanying them.It's one thing for Bubbles to be in Saratoga but it's a crime if he makes a bet there. The clerk who takes his bet will also be liable.


This site comes under parental control and is considered in the "gambling" category.

It's one thing for Bubbles to talk about horses but now he is devising a betting system,assuming intent to bet. That's why I asked him "what's the point". By you allowing him to post and continue that thread,you are similar to the clerk who condones unacceptable behavior from a minor.And he has his picture paraded for all to see his age. For someone like you who is so paranoid of liability,you are a sitting duck in this case. Even porn sites protect themselves better than you.

[cj]

How many of us have tried out a system and never placed a bet? I know I have.

When I was in high school, I tested everything I could think of about racing, all without making a bet.

Maybe, just maybe, Bubbles will be a better player when he is allowed to legally bet. It sure can't hurt. There is absolutely nothing wrong with following racing as a sport and trying to figure out who is going to win.

So Amazin, stop ASSUMING! If his father places a bet for him, who the f... are you to think you know better? There are many, many worse things a kid could be involved with in this life, especially at Bubbles age. What's the harm of following a sport and occasionally going to the racetrack with his father? Who cares if his father wants to give him $20 for a day of wagering? I guess he could take him to a baseball game instead, but that would cost a lot more and be a lot less fun. Mind you own business!

[schweitz]

Silver Sow,

I have four sons myself and I applaud your parenting skills.

[Bubbles]

Originally posted by cjmilkowski
How many of us have tried out a system and never placed a bet? I know I have.

When I was in high school, I tested everything I could think of about racing, all without making a bet.

Maybe, just maybe, Bubbles will be a better player when he is allowed to legally bet. It sure can't hurt. There is absolutely nothing wrong with following racing as a sport and trying to figure out who is going to win.

So Amazin, stop ASSUMING! If his father places a bet for him, who the f... are you to think you know better? There are many, many worse things a kid could be involved with in this life, especially at Bubbles age. What's the harm of following a sport and occasionally going to the racetrack with his father? Who cares if his father wants to give him $20 for a day of wagering? I guess he could take him to a baseball game instead, but that would cost a lot more and be a lot less fun. Mind you own business!

(Wild applause from the gallery)

[PaceAdvantage]

Amazin,

You are missing a very important point, because you are out of the loop. I have Bubbles' father's permission to have him post here.....I met him at Saratoga....again, you are clueless.

And besides, I DON'T NEED HIS PARENTS PERMISSION, because the COPPA laws which you are referring to only apply to children UNDER 13. Read it and weep.


Let me see, allowing him to POST (which is nothing more than thought and speech expressed in the written form), this is EQUAL to a mutuel clerk allowing a MINOR to place a bet.....

Uh huh....yeah....sure....I get it now.....ok....right....just smile and nod, smile and nod......

[Amazin]

Sure PA.Bubbles is asking about a selection system because he does not intend to bet.In a court of law they only have to prove intent.Doesn't matter what permission his father gives him.

As you know,if wagering was not allowed in horseracing no one would bother showing up at the track or handicap a race.I think intent would be very easy to prove in court in this case.It's like saying an adolescent is looking at a porno sight because with his fathers permission,but has no intention of having sex. Don't insult my intelligence.

[GameTheory]

You have to have intelligence first before it can be insulted. If you really do have kids, God have mercy on their souls...

[Tom]

You have done and are doing a great job. Bubbles will no doubt beneift from his upbringing in his later life. :D

[Tom]

You obviously are having trouble grasping the message in this thread. Let me help you out......

SHUT UP!

[Show Me the Wire]

Amazin:

Please tell us how INTENT is proved? Intellectual curiosity maybe? And some people think I am condescending.

Regards,
Show Me the Wire

perception is reality

[BIG RED]

This Amazing guy is truly amazing. I sometimes read the off-topic threads where he spews his idiocies, and yet he now tells dads what they are doing wrong. PA, how do you still put up with this nothing?

By the way Bubbles, next thing he's waiting for is to see you losing, that way he'll have a comment about that, ask PA, he tried that on him. Everytime his theory doesn't hold, he'll change his point! Pathetic!

( I'm coming for ya Bubbles, this weekend, hopefully I will wave on the way Bye:D )

[Show Me the Wire]

To all:

Amazin and his ilk keep proving my assertion they think they know what is best for you. They are arrogant and elitist making such arguments like Amazin knows better than Bubble's father.

People use this as a wake up call about their agenda.

Regards the condescending one,
Show Me the Wire

perception is reality

[BIG RED]

By the way, this is the first time I have ever said anything negative about any one here.

[Steve 'StatMan']

Intent is important in differentiating things like Murder 1 vs. Manslaughter. Intent isn't import until the act is clearly being placed. They wait for the child predators to show up at the shopping mall, because they don't have a 'good bust' just by words alone. Placing a bet would require an overt act. I imagine his dad would be the one going to the window anyway. I think any reasonable lawyer not out for profit would see no case here. No judge could see a real case here, and I doubt any DA would waste his time. Sheesh! I didn't see your original post, but you do like to keep whining about it.

Amazin, start your own GD board. You can espose what you want and can always be 'right', and nearly all of us promise not to bother you there.

[Amazin]

Do you out of touch PA board members who live in your own little world honestly think present day American society would approve of A 15 year old posting betting and wagering theories on the internet. You think this Christian,God fearing, Oreilly following crowd would consider this appropriate behavior? Get off your prescription drugs and smell your own horseshit. You support the status quo in the off topic,but not when it comes to gambling. How many faces have you got?

[BIG RED]

15 year old posting betting and wagering theories on the internet, you bet! Beats selling crack on the street, drinking and driving, and a host of other things that worry parents to death.

I like the idea he is trying to figure certain things out, by himself , and hope he does well and enjoys what he is doing. His dad is right there.

Sorry, I'm not a fanatic at anything( religion, politics,etc.), just a man who likes to see a father and son get along, and a dad that is proud.

[Bubbles]

Originally posted by Amazin
Do you out of touch PA board members who live in your own little world honestly think present day American society would approve of A 15 year old posting betting and wagering theories on the internet. You think this Christian,God fearing, Oreilly following crowd would consider this appropriate behavior? Get off your prescription drugs and smell your own horseshit. You support the status quo in the off topic,but not when it comes to gambling. How many faces have you got?

This is the last you'll hear of me in this thread.

Amazin, the crime you WERE speaking of was me betting. Then we all cleared that up for you, and you changed your argument to that I shouldn't even post THEORIES. And then you go out saying that everyone else that has posted in this thread and the original one is wrong, and that you are right.

Bottom line: I have an interest in horse racing, a pretty big one as a matter of fact. I finally think up a system where I just might be able to identify winners, not bet on with my money, but IDENTIFY WINNERS. And you have a problem with this? Would you rather me go outside, join a gang, and slit throats? If you're trying to get me to abandon my interest in the Sport of Kings, it's not gonna work. If you're trying to shoo me away from this board that I love and have over 700 posts on, you're wasting your time. I have nothing to prove to you, or anyone else that may disagree with my interests. I'm gonna keep going on this board, picking horses, going up to Saratoga in the summer, and I'm going to keep running my contest. Like it or not, Amazin, that's the way it is.

Like my old man said, you can have the last word here, I really don't care. If you still have a problem with the way I do things, take it up with everyone that has no problems with good old Bub's. You better bring a lunch, that fight'd take all day.

[Tom]

Amazin-if we had a few million more like Bubbles, we would all be better off. You see A, the bottom line is Bubbles is a builder. You are an anchor. At 15, he has more sense than you will ever see.

[Show Me the Wire]

Originally posted by Amazin
Do you out of touch PA board members who live in your own little world honestly think present day American society would approve of A 15 year old posting betting and wagering theories on the internet. You think this Christian,God fearing, Oreilly following crowd would consider this appropriate behavior? Get off your prescription drugs and smell your own horseshit. You support the status quo in the off topic,but not when it comes to gambling. How many faces have you got?

Amazin:

Such arrogance. The postings, you refer to are, generally about invidual and property rights, not specific support of the Coalition goals. Once again you have demonstrated you cannot comprehend other posters' opinions and the subject matter being discussed.

Keep on truckin'

Regards,
Show Me the Wire

percpetion is reality

[JimG]

Bubbles,

I only wish I was half as articulate and mature as you when I was age 15. You and your father are obviously class acts!

Be prepared for a lifetime of fun, enjoyment, and occasionally frustration from the sport of kings. My father took me to the track for the first time when I was about 8. I am now 43. We shared that love of the track for his entire life until his death in 1997. I can't think of many better ways for father's and sons to bond.

Consider yourself lucky to have a father who will share his passion of the sport with you.

Sincerely,

Jim

[Amazin]

Bubbles

I'm not changing my tune.The facts are that it is illegal for under 18 to bet and it is in this societies eyes inappropriate for minors to discuss gambling topics.What is the problem? These are the rules we live by in this society. I didn't just make this up. My main point is that PA has shown poor judgement to allow you to discuss this in public on the internet. If you want to continue,that's up to you. My suggestion would be to do it in private. No one was briging up this obvious point about discussing gambling and your age,so I did that. Consider it a reminder.

[PaceAdvantage]

Amazin, have fun making yourself miserable. We ain't playing this game anymore.