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davefulche
02-18-2014, 04:09 PM
Are there any adw that take pa customers that aren't penn or philly affiliated? Bet america just informed me that they can no longer accept my wagers.

Force of One
03-08-2014, 08:44 PM
I live outside Philly, and I have a Twinspires account. Also, I believe TVG has something through Harrah's Chester, but if you are inclined to use them, you might have to research that one: I think you may have to live so close to that track to be eligible.

pandy
03-09-2014, 12:09 PM
Yes, Twinspires and TVG are the choices but neither one gives you rebates. As usual, horseplayers get screwed.

cecil127
03-09-2014, 04:07 PM
im in pa and use xpressbet...think mutuelsonline would take your action too....

Ray2000
03-11-2014, 03:09 PM
im in pa and use xpressbet...think mutuelsonline would take your action too....


mutuelsonline booted me off last year for living in the Keystone Commonwealth :p

pandy
03-11-2014, 03:24 PM
I believe PABETS/TVG is run by expressbet, and twinspires will also take your bets, but I don't think anyone else in this country will take your bets. Certainly no one that offers rebates, unless you go offshore.

lamboguy
03-11-2014, 03:34 PM
PA bets is TVG i believe. i saw them advertise it.

pandy
03-11-2014, 04:22 PM
It is but I believe PABETS is actually expressbet.

netbet
03-12-2014, 05:18 PM
I live in the Pittsburgh area and use Twinspires and Betptc.

Patrick

pandy
03-12-2014, 06:34 PM
I'm very surprised that betptc hasn't dropped you. I like Betptc.

Longshot6977
03-12-2014, 07:48 PM
Yes, Twinspires and TVG are the choices but neither one gives you rebates. As usual, horseplayers get screwed.

FYI, TVG does give a TINY rebate of 0.2%. If you bet $2500, you get the princely sum of $5. They have the gall to call this their Wagering Reward program.

camourous
03-12-2014, 11:03 PM
Dayatthetrack and link2bet (through startwinningmoney) both take PA wagers, but they don't offer a lot of the top notch tracks, if that's your thing.

tanner12oz
03-13-2014, 07:29 AM
I'm also in pittsburgh where they have shuttered 95% of the otbs locally.play through twinspires and have previously had wagers with racing2day I think it was called...twinspires is great but the rebates (if you want to call them that) stink...i wanted to deposit over 1k before and they made me jump through hoops which I though was silly for just over 1k

pandy
03-13-2014, 08:08 AM
Dayatthetrack and link2bet (through startwinningmoney) both take PA wagers, but they don't offer a lot of the top notch tracks, if that's your thing.

Dayatthetrack does not allow wagers from PA residents.

Predator35
03-14-2014, 01:52 AM
From PA and I hav to take my action offshore. Pretty silly to lose thousands of dollars in rebates playing with tvg and twinspires. There are only a few reliable offshore books so choose carefully.

tanner12oz
03-14-2014, 07:10 AM
Offshore industry is in shambles at this point....be careful!

pandy
03-14-2014, 07:21 AM
From PA and I hav to take my action offshore. Pretty silly to lose thousands of dollars in rebates playing with tvg and twinspires. There are only a few reliable offshore books so choose carefully.

Any recommendations?

iceknight
03-14-2014, 11:17 AM
Any recommendations?Have you tried Betptc (adw) ..they still take PA residents. I have covered some of these ADWs here on my blog (http://stockgage.blogspot.com/p/horses.html) . I live in centra PA by the way, and far enough from Penn National and Preqsue Isle.

pandy
03-14-2014, 11:52 AM
If Betptc still takes PA. residents, I would imagine it's only a matter of time before they drop them. Good company though, I like BETPTC.

iceknight
03-14-2014, 12:35 PM
Have you tried Betptc (adw) ..they still take PA residents. I have covered some of these ADWs here on my blog (http://stockgage.blogspot.com/p/horses.html) . I live in centra PA by the way, and far enough from Penn National and Preqsue Isle. Oops sorry, looks like they are not taking any more new registrants from Pennsylvania..sorry for the wrong info.

bks
03-14-2014, 01:07 PM
Has something changed whereby existing Pa customers should be concerned with betptc? I'm confused.

iceknight
03-14-2014, 02:15 PM
Has something changed whereby existing Pa customers should be concerned with betptc? I'm confused. So far, it seems to be ok for existing pa customers with betptc.

(Another smaller adw who I had an account with due to rebates, who I will not name here) sent me this email in late Oct 2013

"We indeed had to close the accounts as the state is charging a 10% tax on all out of state ADW's. The tracks in PA, want you to bet with their sites (of course, you lose the option of competition and have to accept their low offers).

Obviously, believe it's not fair and does not let others to play on a level field. We are not opposed to paying additional fees to the horsemen, but to be forced to pay 10% wipes out all rewards and we would lose money on most every bet."

camourous
03-14-2014, 03:21 PM
Funny because I still used mine recently. Must not of closed it yet

Predator35
03-14-2014, 10:25 PM
Any recommendations?

For horse race betting 5dimes is by far the best. Other solid ones Bookmaker and Betonline.

5dimes rebates are incredible and they even offer a 10% racebook which adds ur winnings by 10%.

Predator35
03-14-2014, 10:26 PM
If Betptc still takes PA. residents, I would imagine it's only a matter of time before they drop them. Good company though, I like BETPTC.


They dont take Nyra do they? If not they are worthless to me.

cecil127
03-15-2014, 11:50 AM
For horse race betting 5dimes is by far the best. Other solid ones Bookmaker and Betonline.

5dimes rebates are incredible and they even offer a 10% racebook which adds ur winnings by 10%.

what are the max payouts if you don't mind me asking?
they wiggle out of paying actual track prices never mind if youre the only one who had the pick 4/5/6/7/8/9/26 and must settle for 25 of 26 paying $18 :faint: :p :rolleyes: :D

pandy
03-15-2014, 12:55 PM
They dont take Nyra do they? If not they are worthless to me.

Last time I used BETPTC they did not have Aqueduct.

lamboguy
03-15-2014, 12:58 PM
For horse race betting 5dimes is by far the best. Other solid ones Bookmaker and Betonline.

5dimes rebates are incredible and they even offer a 10% racebook which adds ur winnings by 10%.how the hell are they the best? they give small rebates and the money don't go into the pools, plus you are one knock on the door from not getting paid

Predator35
03-15-2014, 02:29 PM
how the hell are they the best? they give small rebates and the money don't go into the pools, plus you are one knock on the door from not getting paid

The money not going into the pools is a good thing bud. Small rebates? 9% on exotics is small compared to legal shops which are pretty much nothing?

Predator35
03-15-2014, 02:33 PM
what are the max payouts if you don't mind me asking?
they wiggle out of paying actual track prices never mind if youre the only one who had the pick 4/5/6/7/8/9/26 and must settle for 25 of 26 paying $18 :faint: :p :rolleyes: :D


Track A (http://www.propbet.com/rrb_tracks.html#Major) maximum net profit per race: $30,000

Track B (http://www.propbet.com/rrb_tracks.html#Major) maximum net profit per race: $15,000

Track C (http://www.propbet.com/rrb_tracks.html#Medium) maximum net profit per race: $10,000

Tracks D and E (http://www.propbet.com/rrb_tracks.html#Minor) maximum net profit per race: $7,500

Harness (http://www.propbet.com/rrb_tracks.html#Harness) maximum net profit per race: $5,000

Greyhound (http://www.propbet.com/rrb_tracks.html#Greyhound) maximum net profit per race: $2500

TraderX
04-01-2014, 07:24 AM
There are still a few ADW's that gladly Pennsylvania action, and I use one them. Of couse they will not tell you that fact. They have gotten rid of the small bettors simply to comply with the law. They don't need the legal headache if you are a small bettor.

As for 5Dimes, I lasted three weeks there a long while ago. It seems if you are a winning bettor, and bet larger, you are shown the door.