Coincidence or more?

[dasch]

The following are the morning line favorites from Monday at Santa Anita when there was a 94k pick 6 carryover:

4th race:
#8 Bury Pacer(2-1 morning line off at 6-5 Mike Smith) Trainer Oneill entered a pace setter in this race to ensure a fast pace to set this horse up, so what does Mike Smith do? Keeps the horse buried on the rail with nowhere to go knowing those speed horses would all be coming back........a single on many tickets...........

5th race:
#3 Senator Bob(7-2 morning line off at 2-1 Bejarano) an absolute NEED THE LEAD running style horse. So what do they do? Decide to try and rate a horse that has proven through 36 starts he will not rate........

6th race:
#4 Insideondoutside(7-2 morning line off at 2-1 Espinoza) No noticeable excuse just finished a dull 5th
#11 Dixieland Blues(4-1 morning line off at 5-2 Bejarano) Farther back then he EVER has been in his life, he flies to be 3rd but being so far back pretty much gave him no chance to win.....

7th race:
#3 Yana(3-1 morning line off odds@1-1 Mike Smith) Normally has speed. Never showed early speed, nor middle or late speed. Completely dull never ran a step.........a single on many tickets...........

8th race:
#7 Pulpits Express(7-2 morning line off at 5-2 Espinoza) Speed or just off the pace every start, he is in the back of the pack and was in the 13 path into the stretch!.....runs 10th beaten less than 3 lengths..............a single on many tickets........

9th race:
#9 Katys Plum(7-2 morning line off at 5-2 Bejarano) kept outside has trouble with the turn and is in the 13-14 path into the stretch!....ends up 6th......

EVERY morning line favorite ALSO went off as the post time favorite so its not like the morning line was bad. Pick 3-4-5-6 players are influenced by the morning line and its hard for me to believe that all of these trips/changes in running style were just a coincidence but you decide for yourself.

I am not accusing anybody nor saying that its impossible for all of this to happen, but the facts look pretty suspicious at the very least.

[Stillriledup]

The horses you mention in races 4, 8 and 9 are owned by known HUGE gamblers.

[dnlgfnk]

Since favorites win roughly one third of all races, there is a 64/729 (9%) chance that no favorites win any leg of the pick 6.

There is a 1/729 (.001) chance that favorites win all the legs. That would be cause for examining the day's events.

[dasch]

Since favorites win roughly one third of all races, there is a 64/729 (9%) chance that no favorites win any leg of the pick 6.

There is a 1/729 (.001) chance that favorites win all the legs. That would be cause for examining the day's events.

This has NOTHING to do with the favorites not winning. It does involve the ridiculous trips that they had and/or proven running styles that were changed on that day to the point the horses had no chance to win.

[Stillriledup]

This has NOTHING to do with the favorites not winning. It does involve the ridiculous trips that they had and/or proven running styles that were changed on that day to the point the horses had no chance to win.

Jocks can essentially do anything they want and not get in real trouble. They might get a 3 or 7 day suspension for bumping a rival, and maybe a 3 day suspension for misjudging the wire or doing something dangerous out there, but they won't get a suspension that's really long for "stiffing" or not giving "full effort", it just doesnt happen, jocks are essentially teflon, they can stiff a horse and if anyone complains about it, the racing board just questions them and they say something like " the horse felt funny" and no more questions get asked.

[dasch]

Jocks can essentially do anything they want and not get in real trouble. They might get a 3 or 7 day suspension for bumping a rival, and maybe a 3 day suspension for misjudging the wire or doing something dangerous out there, but they won't get a suspension that's really long for "stiffing" or not giving "full effort", it just doesnt happen, jocks are essentially teflon, they can stiff a horse and if anyone complains about it, the racing board just questions them and they say something like " the horse felt funny" and no more questions get asked.

I agree completely. Its very difficult to completely prove almost anything in horse racing. There are too many "excuses" that can be made.

Heck they KNOW the "supertrainers" are cheating and can't even catch them.

[Stillriledup]

I agree completely. Its very difficult to completely prove almost anything in horse racing. There are too many "excuses" that can be made.

Heck they KNOW the "supertrainers" are cheating and can't even catch them.

Cheating is bad "publicity" for tracks, so you have to wonder how hard some of these tracks are trying to actually CATCH the cheats and get them out of the game.

[Pensacola Pete]

Cheating is bad "publicity" for tracks, so you have to wonder how hard some of these tracks are trying to actually CATCH the cheats and get them out of the game.

That would require that the tracks cared about us. Customers/bettors tend to rank somewhere between trash removal and parking lot repaving on the list of management priorities.

[Stillriledup]

That would require that the tracks cared about us. Customers/bettors tend to rank somewhere between trash removal and parking lot repaving on the list of management priorities.

Its obvious they don't care about the customers because i think that they think most customers are degenerate gamblers who will come and gamble no matter how poorly they're treated.....if they thought that being nice to customers would increase their revenue, i think they would consider doing it. The way they treat customers is them essentially saying that treating customers the right way has no effect on the bottom line.