unreal

[tonypp]

I hit a pick 3 at woodbine, first leg 11 to 1,second 25 to 1 plus I beat a 3/5 shot,then 3rd leg I hit a 45to1 shot.HOw much do I get back 1000 dollars,you would think I would be getting 5000 to 10000,someone please explain.:bang:

[SharpCat]

I hit a pick 3 at woodbine, first leg 11 to 1,second 25 to 1 plus I beat a 3/5 shot,then 3rd leg I hit a 45to1 shot.HOw much do I get back 1000 dollars,you would think I would be getting 5000 to 10000,someone please explain.:bang:


There was only $7184 in the pick 3 pool.

[tonypp]

great that's enough,your telling me 7 people had that ticket.

[JustRalph]

Nothing to explain........small pool, small payout. Just do the math

[JustRalph]

great that's enough,your telling me 7 people had that ticket.

You have to figure in the takeout

[Stillriledup]

I think there's a 20 cent base...the "evil" 20 cent pick 3 was part of the problem. With a 7k pool there are essentially 35k combos and its easier to hit because people can spread more.

I do agree that it still should have paid more, the late pick 3 (using 2 of your 3 legs) paid MORE than yours did even though the last winner was the favorite and your first leg horse was a bomb.

[Robert Goren]

And the exchange rate.

[NJ Stinks]

Tony, I just watched the replay of the last race in the Pick 3. To watch the 7 rally from dead last at 45-1 and then see that payoff....

All I can say is I feel your pain. That payoff was brutal.

[baconswitchfarm]

My friend hit the pik 4 . Paid bad with 41k in the pool.

[tonypp]

FIX

[tonypp]

PAID 18000 grand pick 3 paid 1000My friend hit the pik 4 . Paid bad with 41k in the pool.

[tonypp]

that race retired me.Its like bringing home a bombshell and finding out she hasa penis

[JustRalph]

that race retired me.Its like bringing home a bombshell and finding out she hasa penis

That's a whole different kind of "takeout"

[Stillriledup]

that race retired me.Its like bringing home a bombshell and finding out she hasa penis

Getting robbed on a payout is a huge crusher, it hurts badly. We have all made "good hits" only to see we didnt even get half of what we were supposed to get. Sorry Tony, most of us here feel your pain.

[jk3521]

That's a whole different kind of "takeout"


:lol: :lol: Like in The Crying Game! :lol: :lol:

[Thebigguy]

I hit a pick 3 at woodbine, first leg 11 to 1,second 25 to 1 plus I beat a 3/5 shot,then 3rd leg I hit a 45to1 shot.HOw much do I get back 1000 dollars,you would think I would be getting 5000 to 10000,someone please explain.:bang:


Solid redboard w/ huge prices and everything. You went straight up gigantic 11-1, 25-1 and 45-1.
If I hit that I would expect 30k not 5-10k.

[ManU918]

When I bet exotics, I always follow how much is bet into the pool. Also if you hit the first leg of a double, first 2 legs of a pick 3, first 3 legs of a pick 4, first 4 legs of a pick 5 or first 5 legs of a pick 6..... Why wouldn't you just look at at the will pays so you know what your alive to going into the race?

[OTM Al]

If things like this bother you then you should quit playing into small pools. Small pools aren't close to efficient and thus there is not going to be a relation between the win prices and the other pools. This sort of thing is going to happen. And you won $1000. Could be worse. You could have lost.

[speed]

that race retired me.Its like bringing home a bombshell and finding out she hasa penis
Did you let HER finish?

[iceknight]

I hit a pick 3 at woodbine, first leg 11 to 1,second 25 to 1 plus I beat a 3/5 shot,then 3rd leg I hit a 45to1 shot.HOw much do I get back 1000 dollars,you would think I would be getting 5000 to 10000,someone please explain.:bang: Did you have 0.20 ticket and got $1000?

or was it on a $1 ticket?

Also how much did you bet into the pool to begin with?

[tonypp]

1 dollar ticket 120 ticket,still makes zero sense.The pool wasn't that small 7000 grand isn't a small pool,its not a big pool.

[ManU918]

1 dollar ticket 120 ticket,still makes zero sense.The pool wasn't that small 7000 grand isn't a small pool,its not a big pool.

What? $7k is an extremely small pool. The avg pick 3 pool yesterday at Santa Anita was somewhere around 70K... with the lowest being in the 30's and the highest being over 130K.

[tonypp]

this why I think something is fishy,the 5 horse in the will pays is only 1500 for the pick 4 the rest are 10000 and up,the Ml on the 5 is 7 to 1.Go watch the ride on the 5 horse and tell me something smells.

[tonypp]

your talking santa anita,go look at sam Houston pools there 1000 to 2000 that's a small pool,like I said 7000 isn't a big pool,but it isn't a small pool either.What? $7k is an extremely small pool. The avg pick 3 pool yesterday at Santa Anita was somewhere around 70K... with the lowest being in the 30's and the highest being over 130K.

[Racetrack Playa]

great that's enough,your telling me 7 people had that ticket.
More than seven the ------>.20 center

[olddaddy]

Ive gotten boned on a pk3 and tri before, so now I rarely play an exotic that I cant see odds on.

[sammy the sage]

this thread pretty much sums up why I've quit playing day to day & small tracks/handle...whole thing stinks...

I hit similar p/3 at Arlington 3 yrs. ago on last race as Tony...they didn't post pay-offs for 20 mins. (no excuse for that)...thought had taken the whole 20k....instead I got $879...

so yeah....feel the pain...

now it's just BIG days...Big races...

[Bettowin]

A $2 parlay on those horses would have paid over $28K. Ouch.

[tonypp]

already did that in my head 20 times,thanks for the reminder.A $2 parlay on those horses would have paid over $28K. Ouch.

[OTM Al]

already did that in my head 20 times,thanks for the reminder.

Given the pool size you would have gotten a whole lot less than 45-1 in that last leg so you might want to recalculate. And if you hate having the $1000 so much, I'll take it.....

[tonypp]

thank you I fell better,maybe you should be life coachGiven the pool size you would have gotten a whole lot less than 45-1 in that last leg so you might want to recalculate. And if you hate having the $1000 so much, I'll take it.....

[Stillriledup]

Given the pool size you would have gotten a whole lot less than 45-1 in that last leg so you might want to recalculate. And if you hate having the $1000 so much, I'll take it.....

The pool size had 35,000 "units" in it. That's plenty high enough for the thing to still pay "boxcars".

[cj's dad]

The pool is what it is- Do you think the track is cheating you? Yes, it may be disappointing but as best I remember the payouts are listed prior to the post of the last pick 3 race. Why not bet your horse to win many times over if you are not happy with the will pay is in the P3???

[OTM Al]

The pool is what it is- Do you think the track is cheating you? Yes, it may be disappointing but as best I remember the payouts are listed prior to the post of the last pick 3 race. Why not bet your horse to win many times over if you are not happy with the will pay is in the P3???
Because then there wouldn't be so much to complain about.

[tonypp]

I was 4 deep in the last leg,i didn't want to put another 100 into the race.The pool is what it is- Do you think the track is cheating you? Yes, it may be disappointing but as best I remember the payouts are listed prior to the post of the last pick 3 race. Why not bet your horse to win many times over if you are not happy with the will pay is in the P3???

[cj's dad]

Because then there wouldn't be so much to complain about.

Al. how many posters here do you think complain just to complain? As most here know, the payouts are posted prior to each race whether they be DD's/Pik3's/Pk4's/etc... If you think the paypur is low; load up on your prime selection. _ no guts no glory !!!!

[OTM Al]

Al. how many posters here do you think complain just to complain? As most here know, the payouts are posted prior to each race whether they be DD's/Pik3's/Pk4's/etc... If you think the paypur is low; load up on your prime selection. _ no guts no glory !!!!

It seems like more because of a certain few. To me though, someone complaining about something like this is being ridiculous. You point out part of it in that he could have made a whole lot more pretty easily because he knew what the payoffs should be. Second, if you are betting into small pools, you should not expect the strong relations between pools that occur at the larger tracks. The "parlay" becomes irrelevant. The win odds are out of whack. Finally, why do so few players seem to recognize that if they can see something, so can others? And after considering these things, I find such complaints empty and foolish. And if he is so disappointed at winning $1000, I will repeat that I am happy to take it since it disappoints him so much.

[tonypp]

Can I complain about this,Australia A RACE 1,6 HORSE WINS,20 min later they take him down,he was 3 to 1.The reason why the jockey weighed half a pound to much.It seems like more because of a certain few. To me though, someone complaining about something like this is being ridiculous. You point out part of it in that he could have made a whole lot more pretty easily because he knew what the payoffs should be. Second, if you are betting into small pools, you should not expect the strong relations between pools that occur at the larger tracks. The "parlay" becomes irrelevant. The win odds are out of whack. Finally, why do so few players seem to recognize that if they can see something, so can others? And after considering these things, I find such complaints empty and foolish. And if he is so disappointed at winning $1000, I will repeat that I am happy to take it since it disappoints him so much.

[moneyandland]

Can I complain about this,Australia A RACE 1,6 HORSE WINS,20 min later they take him down,he was 3 to 1.The reason why the jockey weighed half a pound to much.

2 errors in your statement it was "more than half a kg" (at least 1.1 lb+) and too little (not too much)

[duncan04]

2 errors in your statement it was "more than half a kg" (at least 1.1 lb+) and too little (not too much)

That makes sense. Guess Tony was looking for something to complain about :rolleyes:

[OTM Al]

2 errors in your statement it was "more than half a kg" (at least 1.1 lb+) and too little (not too much)

It would also help to know what track was being played and what the rules of hat jurisdiction are as well. I love it when people think Australia A is a track....now, if the horse was taken down in violation of those rules, then he has something complaint worthy. Otherwise, not so much.

[duncan04]

It would also help to know what track was being played and what the rules of hat jurisdiction are as well. I love it when people think Australia A is a track....now, if the horse was taken down in violation of those rules, then he has something complaint worthy. Otherwise, not so much.

Isn't carrying too little weight a DQ everywhere?

[OTM Al]

Isn't carrying too little weight a DQ everywhere?

Yes, but one would think there is a range to it. Technically no one will weigh precisely a set amount. Clearly half a kg must be over the threshold, but would a quarter? Don't know as I don't play Australia.

[devilsbag]

In the 1954 Caulfield Cup, jockey Paul Boomer crapped himself with 600 meters remaining and this continued all the way past the winning post.

Although he did finish first aboard Windesmear, he lost enough weight during the stretch run that he weighed in below his assigned impost. Windesmear was promptly disqualified and placed last.

[tonypp]

I didn't understand when they said too much weight,i would think that would be a disadvantage to the horse.All my years betting on horses ive never heard or seen a horse getting DQ after winning the race for weight issues.2 errors in your statement it was "more than half a kg" (at least 1.1 lb+) and too little (not too much)

[devilsbag]

All my years betting on horses ive never heard or seen a horse getting DQ after winning the race for weight issues.

http://www.nytimes.com/1985/02/15/sports/board-rejects-plea-on-remsen-weight.html

[tonypp]

yes hours later,i don't care about the purse.The punter shouldn't be penalized for the jockeys mistake.If that's the rule they should jump on the scale before mounting the horse.http://www.nytimes.com/1985/02/15/sports/board-rejects-plea-on-remsen-weight.html

[devilsbag]

http://articles.latimes.com/1990-10-15/sports/sp-1868_1_bay-meadows