Problem with Brisnet

[maclr11]

I know a lot of people will criticize the form, but at least the form doesn't do crazy things like this.

I was reading the Countdown to the Cup magazine and noticed that they had a top brisnet speed figures chart. On the chart was a horse in spot #35 Tuff Grit.

http://www.equibase.com/profiles/Results.cfm?type=Horse&refno=9183889&registry=T

For his maiden breaking score at Fargo Downs, a bush meet, with a weekend or two of racing a year he covered the 5 1/2 furlongs in a swift 114 1/5. That somehow managed to earn him the 35th highest brisnet figure of 2013 for 2yo's. That 97 makes him a world beater.

http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbPDFChartPlus.cfm?BORP=P&STYLE=EQB&DAY=D&tid=FAR&dt=07/20/2013&ctry=USA&race=4

So when he come to ASD for the Osiris Stakes, anyone with any logic instantly threw him out as a bush horse who crawled against a small field.
His trainer was 0 for the meet and the other horses in the race were coming off a 1-2 finish in a previous stake. Somehow unaware people who just saw the brisnet number and the lengths he won by said this horse could be good and bet him down to 6-1. He should have been 30-1 and was beaten by 24 lengths.

http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbPDFChartPlus.cfm?BORP=P&STYLE=EQB&DAY=D&tid=ASD&dt=08/21/2013&ctry=CAN&race=3

DRF at least doesn't record numbers in the bush, so Beyer players weren't mislead like Brisnet mislead its players.

So in the end how can a) Brisnet assign such a goofy rating off such a small sample size and pedestrian time. b) not edit that rating after his poor performance c) Allow that to be published in a racing magazine as Tuff Grit being one of the 35 fastest 2yo's in North America.

Hard to have faith in Brisnet after that, how many other cases does this happen and why is it allowed to happen.

[Pensacola Pete]

Serves them right for playing a speed rating. Serves them right for using BRIS. The HDW speed rating was almost 20 points the lowest in the field.

There was $497 bet on the horse at ASD. Probably people who saw the weird number, the 17 length win, and Jennifer Reid on the horse, and bet it.

[johnhannibalsmith]

I was going to be a smart ass and remark on the quality of the runner-up to Tuff Grit, Classi Coyote, who ran third in stakes company in her next out...

...and then I realized that the subsequent third was earned 23 hours and 41 minutes after the runner-up performance behind Tuff Grit.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[maclr11]

Nobody bets Jennifer Reid, just for the sake of betting Jennifer Reid.
I get the 17 length win thing, but still Bris at least take him out of your 2yo rankings.

And I know I thought it was an impressive performance running back on less than a days rest. The only better performance might be the Fargo chart caller's 1 line of comments at the bottom. Great effort, game effort, steady effort.

[johnhannibalsmith]

...The only better performance might be the Fargo chart caller's 1 line of comments at the bottom. Great effort, game effort, steady effort.

:D

Not to take your thread farther off the rails, but I think it might be a cousin to whoever used to do the Arizona fairs.

I used to love it when he'd opine, "needed out".

[Tom]

Wasn't the top fig, or top 3, earned at FL?

[maclr11]

#1 was at finger lakes
But it was wired Bryan who was a grade 2 winner who happened to run in an ny bred race there.

http://www.equibase.com/profiles/Results.cfm?type=Horse&refno=9062357&registry=T

At least he's a top level horse.