What happens if I use my ADW in Nevada?

[letswastemoney]

I mean, what if I just press that I'm in California, even if I'm in Nevada. Will it still work?

[tampahorseplayer]

Im pretty sure they check by the ip address. If your in Nevada they will see this by your isp, unless your super close to the cal. state line. I don't think an adw would risk getting sanctioned for allowing someone in a non wagering state to wager while there.

[lamboguy]

i have been going to Monmouth for the Haskell every year and i have had no problem at all betting with 4 different adw's. i don't know what Nevada brings though.

the only place that i have ever been blocked was when i went to Gulfstream. i was using their Wi-Fi and i could use all my adw's except for Twinspires. i asked and they told me they had a block on it. in Tampa Bay Downs i did not encounter that problem

[Milkshaker]

They come and get you and lock you in a claustrophobic padded cell and force you to listen to Richard Grunder and Mike Battaglia until your ears bleed.

[horses4courses]

They come and get you and lock you in a claustrophobic padded cell and force you to listen to Richard Grunder and Mike Battaglia until your ears bleed.

He's talking about Nevada, though.
It could be Harry Reid....... :lol:

[Dave Schwartz]

You have an ADW that takes you from California?

No rebates, right?

[Si2see]

They come and get you and lock you in a claustrophobic padded cell and force you to listen to Richard Grunder and Mike Battaglia until your ears bleed.

Bleed they would !!

[davew]

It depends on your ADW - yours asks you what state you are in?
Does this happen everytime logging in? or just when somewhere different from your usual location?

[letswastemoney]

You have an ADW that takes you from California?

No rebates, right?
I use TVG, maybe it's not an ADW? Whatever it's called, it asks me what state I'm in at log in.

[thespaah]

You shall be brought to the town square in leg irons. Placed in stocks and flogged with a bull whip.

[Dan Montilion]

You shall be brought to the town square in leg irons. Placed in stocks and flogged with a bull whip.

Distant memory ex girlfriend would have loved that...

[levinmpa]

A good friend of mine was using a Texas address for his Twinspires account while living in Nevada. He was able to wager without a problem until Texas changed their law regarding wagering through ADW's. He always chose Texas as the state when logging in. Now he has to wager through an offshore account.

[salty]

One time I was travelling through the Carolinas and if I remember correctly the state blocked me from accessing my account. I think it looked similar what they put up on full tilt poker when the government shut them down.

[horses4courses]

Im pretty sure they check by the ip address. If your in Nevada they will see this by your isp, unless your super close to the cal. state line. I don't think an adw would risk getting sanctioned for allowing someone in a non wagering state to wager while there.

I use 3 ADWs - TwinSpires, Xpressbet, and TVG.
I live in California. Only TVG asks at every sign-in where you are currently located.
They obviously don't check IP addresses,
as I have placed wagers online in multiple states, and countries, while travelling.
As far as Nevada goes, I have made hundreds, or thousands, of bets through ADWs online there. Never a problem.

Legal online bookmakers in Europe track IP addresses through their software.
They will not do business with U.S. residents, and I believe that their customers run into problems if visiting here and try to place a wager through their existing account. I don't know if they can get around that, or not.
U.S. ADWs could, obviously, have similar software if they cared to.
As of now, this is not the case.

[Pensacola Pete]

I mean, what if I just press that I'm in California, even if I'm in Nevada. Will it still work?

Depends on the ADW. Some lock out identifiable internet addresses by state, others don't. Some are more interested in where you live, not where you are at one given time. If you log in a few times from Nevada, that's fine but if you've done it for months, they assume you moved there, and they'll lock you out.

[thespaah]

I use 3 ADWs - TwinSpires, Xpressbet, and TVG.
I live in California. Only TVG asks at every sign-in where you are currently located.
They obviously don't check IP addresses,
as I have placed wagers online in multiple states, and countries, while travelling.
As far as Nevada goes, I have made hundreds, or thousands, of bets through ADWs online there. Never a problem.

Legal online bookmakers in Europe track IP addresses through their software.
They will not do business with U.S. residents, and I believe that their customers run into problems if visiting here and try to place a wager through their existing account. I don't know if they can get around that, or not.
U.S. ADWs could, obviously, have similar software if they cared to.
As of now, this is not the case.
I've often wondered about how bettors using laptops and may be traveling in a non wagering state can still use their accounts.
It has been my assumption that ADW's have IP Address detection capability.
After all, how else could they be in compliance with state's laws?

[olddaddy]

Last year when Illinois cut off adws I played on a adw registered in indiana. That lasted 5 months. Nothing was ever said by the adw.

[thespaah]

Last year when Illinois cut off adws I played on a adw registered in indiana. That lasted 5 months. Nothing was ever said by the adw.
You used a fake address?

[JustRalph]

You used a fake address?

Read him his rights before you start asking incriminating questions

[mannyberrios]

Let's not give these ADW any idea's

[RunForTheRoses]

Several years ago I was in Vegas and used my 4njbets account, I just put that I was in Jersey and had no problems.
Recently, New Jersey got online casino/poker. They use a system to check that your ip is in the state. You have to have wifi. I guess they use some sort of GPS within the ip address to know you are in the state to avoid proxies, I guess.

[olddaddy]

You used a fake address?


No it was a legit account with a legit address.


Thinking back, once in vegas I remember making some bets and got pps through a adw.

[traynor]

I travel a LOT. I requested clarification from my online betting service about wagering online during travel. The criteria is the state of residence, NOT the physical location. I am more than a little cautious about such matters, because in one of the states I visit, it is a felony for residents to wager online. The clarification I requested involved visits to Nevada (fairly frequent), among others. No one has ever suggested that physical location had anything to do with it.

In fact, I was unable to wager online from my current location for an extended period--until I changed my residency (including driver's license, blah blah blah).

[thespaah]

Read him his rights before you start asking incriminating questions
Sorry ,your Honor..
Ok....
He has the right to remain silent....yada yada yada.... :lol:

[thespaah]

No it was a legit account with a legit address.


Thinking back, once in vegas I remember making some bets and got pps through a adw.
Hmm. I'll rephrase....Was it an address that is not your primary residence?
I am asking because I reside in one these non betting states. I hate using an offshore ADW. I's like to see if there is a workaround.
For example. I could use my parent's address in FL..
But don't ADW's use the credit reporting companies to identify a person's true residence?
Do ADW's request a copy of driver's license or ask for the state of license and DL number?

[traynor]

Hmm. I'll rephrase....Was it an address that is not your primary residence?
I am asking because I reside in one these non betting states. I hate using an offshore ADW. I's like to see if there is a workaround.
For example. I could use my parent's address in FL..
But don't ADW's use the credit reporting companies to identify a person's true residence?
Do ADW's request a copy of driver's license or ask for the state of license and DL number?

Corporate CYA requires it. Using someone else's address is NOT a good idea.

[usedtolovetvg]

The ADWs are supposed to confirm that you are in the State you say you are. This is easily done by checking your IP address. Whether they do or not, well, you'd have to ask them. It is illegal for them to accept wagers from a State that does not allow pari-mutuel wagering.

[whodoyoulike]

I use TVG, maybe it's not an ADW? Whatever it's called, it asks me what state I'm in at log in.

FYI, next to the log in button for TVG is a sentence "By entering this site I certify, that I am currently located in the state selected above."

Hope this helps.

[SchagFactorToWin]

Some ADWs accept LLCs. You can register an LLC in a state that is different from where you live and that allows gambling.

[GameTheory]

It is pretty trivial to route your traffic through an IP address at a different location, including from Europe or where ever. And there is good reason to do that just for basic security when using public wi-fi anywhere, even near your home. So IP checking doesn't prove anything, is fairly useless, and will also block legitimate users that are in non-prohibited locations.

[comet52]

Xpressbet used to ask what state you were on login but that ended a few years ago. But back when they did, I was traveling a lot for business, so I called and asked them what state I should put in and they said always put your home state in regardless of where you actually are.

[GameTheory]

It seems like that is the best policy -- just ask you and you put in whatever you want. There is absolutely no way to technically prove someone is in a particular place via IP address, etc, so might as well just make you affirm something. Seems like that would put them in the clear if anybody wanted to hassle them about it. I suppose they could monitor your IP and if it showed that it was ALWAYS coming from some prohibited place, they could make you sign an additional document that more officially affirmed that you are where you say you are...

[RunForTheRoses]

It seems like that is the best policy -- just ask you and you put in whatever you want. There is absolutely no way to technically prove someone is in a particular place via IP address, etc, so might as well just make you affirm something. Seems like that would put them in the clear if anybody wanted to hassle them about it. I suppose they could monitor your IP and if it showed that it was ALWAYS coming from some prohibited place, they could make you sign an additional document that more officially affirmed that you are where you say you are...

That is true, it is easy to mask the ip. AC casinos are the first I know of to use a Geo Locator, you have to have wifi. I have a wifi router but did not have a wireless Netwok card on my main computer, I had to install one to play Poker online.