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Shemp Howard
12-26-2013, 04:23 PM
Looks like a 5% cut in the new book.

I hear PA bred restricted races are over filled with entries but not used and not brought back due to a dearth of purse subsidy funds.

A takeout increase won't be far behind.

proximity
12-26-2013, 04:59 PM
slots or no slots, when you need to print more condition books than simulcast programs there is going to be a problem. :rolleyes:

Mineshaft
12-26-2013, 05:47 PM
I heard the cuts were coming what are they going to do to make up that 5%?

wiffleball whizz
12-26-2013, 07:10 PM
slots or no slots, when you need to print more condition books than simulcast programs there is going to be a problem. :rolleyes:


How bout pen change their post time to 7:30.....they finish too early and could get the late action

jballscalls
12-26-2013, 07:30 PM
anyone here applying for the Director of Racing at Penn National? I was in until I read the 5% bending and lifting part


Job Opening - Director of Racing Operations, Hollywood Casino @ Penn National Race Course

Job ID: 2013-17183
Casino Property: Hollywood Casino at Penn National Race Course
Location: US-PA-Grantville
Posted Date: 12/10/2013
Position Type: Regular Full-Time
Category: Racing Operations
More information about this opportunity:

Overview:

Penn National Gaming has thrilled and entertained guests since 1971 when it all began as a horse racing venue. From a single race track, we have grown to be one of the nation’s largest gaming companies, operating properties that offer broad and diverse gaming and pari-mutuel wagering experiences. PENN is dedicated to becoming the undisputed leader in guest service by offering a Red Carpet experience for each and every guest.
Your daily responsibilities include:

Oversee all aspects of racing operations including monitoring of handle and financial performance management of the backside operations, oversee Racing Secretary who coordinated the condition book and management of purse account
Development and maintenance of racing related events and activities to promote racing product, increase awareness and drive incremental revenue
Ensure integrity of racing product and accountability of horsemen and racing employees to maintain expected standards
Confer with property Vice President & General Manager and other staff to review achievements and identify required changes in goals or objectives resulting from current status and conditions.
Communication with the Board of Stewards, Pennsylvania Racing Commission, horsemen, including representatives of HBPA board of directors on a regular basis
Representative on Industry Trade Associations and Organizations
Liaison between horsemen and property management
Interface with the PA Thoroughbred Breeder's Association and the Race Track Chaplaincy
Perform special studies and direct special projects as directed by the Vice President & General
Manager of Hollywood Casino at Penn National Race Course and Corporate Vice President of Racing
Ensure the highest level of quality and standards
Assure management and employee morale is maintained at a high level
Actively coordinate with senior facilities and maintenance staff to ensure, quality racing performances
To be successful in this position it will require the following skill set:

Supervisory responsibility over Racing Department
Bachelor’s Degree, 5 or more years of experience or equivalent combination of education and experience
Must have the ability to respond to common inquiries or complaints from guests, regulatory agencies and community members
Must have the ability to calculate figures and amounts such as discounts, interest, commissions, proportions and percentages
Intermediate computer knowledge; MS Office
The physical demands described here are representative of those that must be met by an employee to successfully perform the essential functions of this job. Reasonable accommodations will be made to enable individuals with disabilities to perform the essential functions.

Walking 25% of the time
Sitting 45% of the time
Standing 25% of the time
Bending and lifting 5% of the time

Something to leave you with:

If you're truly committed to a red-carpet service culture, then you need a team that is just as dedicated in pursuing that vision. Penn National Gaming is the place where we empower our cast members to deliver that WOW factor to our guests and in turn we will provide them an opportunity to build an "A" list career portfolio. You will soon understand why "It's Good To Be PENN!"

Shemp Howard
12-26-2013, 08:16 PM
How bout pen change their post time to 7:30.....they finish too early and could get the late action

Maybe they should change 1st post to midnight? They'd have the overnight on TVG all to themselves. :ThmbUp:

wiffleball whizz
12-26-2013, 08:36 PM
anyone here applying for the Director of Racing at Penn National? I was in until I read the 5% bending and lifting part


Job Opening - Director of Racing Operations, Hollywood Casino @ Penn National Race Course

Job ID: 2013-17183
Casino Property: Hollywood Casino at Penn National Race Course
Location: US-PA-Grantville
Posted Date: 12/10/2013
Position Type: Regular Full-Time
Category: Racing Operations
More information about this opportunity:

Overview:

Penn National Gaming has thrilled and entertained guests since 1971 when it all began as a horse racing venue. From a single race track, we have grown to be one of the nation’s largest gaming companies, operating properties that offer broad and diverse gaming and pari-mutuel wagering experiences. PENN is dedicated to becoming the undisputed leader in guest service by offering a Red Carpet experience for each and every guest.
Your daily responsibilities include:

Oversee all aspects of racing operations including monitoring of handle and financial performance management of the backside operations, oversee Racing Secretary who coordinated the condition book and management of purse account
Development and maintenance of racing related events and activities to promote racing product, increase awareness and drive incremental revenue
Ensure integrity of racing product and accountability of horsemen and racing employees to maintain expected standards
Confer with property Vice President & General Manager and other staff to review achievements and identify required changes in goals or objectives resulting from current status and conditions.
Communication with the Board of Stewards, Pennsylvania Racing Commission, horsemen, including representatives of HBPA board of directors on a regular basis
Representative on Industry Trade Associations and Organizations
Liaison between horsemen and property management
Interface with the PA Thoroughbred Breeder's Association and the Race Track Chaplaincy
Perform special studies and direct special projects as directed by the Vice President & General
Manager of Hollywood Casino at Penn National Race Course and Corporate Vice President of Racing
Ensure the highest level of quality and standards
Assure management and employee morale is maintained at a high level
Actively coordinate with senior facilities and maintenance staff to ensure, quality racing performances
To be successful in this position it will require the following skill set:

Supervisory responsibility over Racing Department
Bachelor’s Degree, 5 or more years of experience or equivalent combination of education and experience
Must have the ability to respond to common inquiries or complaints from guests, regulatory agencies and community members
Must have the ability to calculate figures and amounts such as discounts, interest, commissions, proportions and percentages
Intermediate computer knowledge; MS Office
The physical demands described here are representative of those that must be met by an employee to successfully perform the essential functions of this job. Reasonable accommodations will be made to enable individuals with disabilities to perform the essential functions.

Walking 25% of the time
Sitting 45% of the time
Standing 25% of the time
Bending and lifting 5% of the time

Something to leave you with:

If you're truly committed to a red-carpet service culture, then you need a team that is just as dedicated in pursuing that vision. Penn National Gaming is the place where we empower our cast members to deliver that WOW factor to our guests and in turn we will provide them an opportunity to build an "A" list career portfolio. You will soon understand why "It's Good To Be PENN!"


1/9 the job is already spoken for.......and they just post this as a formality


See it all the time in poker they will post a job for shift manager and the results are already in

jballscalls
12-26-2013, 10:52 PM
1/9 the job is already spoken for.......and they just post this as a formality


See it all the time in poker they will post a job for shift manager and the results are already in

Probably. I don't know why they do that (I mean I do know, corporate reasons so they don't get sued) but I think it gives some applicants false hope. But I suppose getting an interview even if you don't get the job still gets you in front of people who will make decisions.

I don't want to work any job that requires more than 25 hours a week, hence why I work in racing.

Mineshaft
12-26-2013, 11:04 PM
How bout pen change their post time to 7:30.....they finish too early and could get the late action






they would be battling Delta-Charlestown-Turfway for late action I don't know if they would do that.

forced89
12-27-2013, 09:52 AM
How about substituting Tuesday afternoon for Wednesday or Thursday night. They would only have to buck the likes of Fairmount Park there.

PaceAdvantage
12-27-2013, 10:34 AM
I don't want to work any job that requires more than 25 hours a week, hence why I work in racing.No wonder the industry is in so much trouble... with a work ethic like this permeating the industry...lol.... just busting your chops

ronsmac
12-27-2013, 12:30 PM
No wonder the industry is in so much trouble... with a work ethic like this permeating the industry...lol.... just busting your chopsWow 25 hours a week is sweet. When I was a pretty serious player , I worked 40 hours a week on my real job and about 35 hours a week on the races. When I scheduled vacations it became 65 hours on races. I was younger with more energy then and I obviously lacked a very good social life.lol

proximity
12-27-2013, 01:19 PM
How bout pen change their post time to 7:30.....they finish too early and could get the late action

I agree totally with this idea. they should be starting at 7:00 or 7:30 and staggering post times with their sister track Charles town.

instead we can't let people come home from work for a few minutes, relax, maybe change clothes..... we have to rush them right out to the track. kinda like I don't see too many Phillies, flyers, or sixers games starting at 6:00, lol. :rolleyes:

horsemen want to get the card over early and not only is the game built around their needs, they actually OUTNUMBER US, LOL.

proximity
12-27-2013, 01:47 PM
Maybe they should change 1st post to midnight? They'd have the overnight on TVG all to themselves. :ThmbUp:

i'd say this might hurt live attendance, but kind of like shadow boxing, it's hard to hurt something that doesn't really exist.

one other potentially good thing about whizz's 7-7:30 post would be that it would give our riders ample time to get back from Maryland and other afternoon circuits. agents too. do we really need tonyk@hsh going 90 mph up a rush hour 83 north like he's Richard petty or something? :D

lamboguy
12-27-2013, 01:59 PM
purses have been on the rise in Maryland and to me those tracks are standing on firmer ground than any other ones in that area concerning slot money.

TonyK@HSH
12-27-2013, 03:32 PM
I agree totally with this idea. they should be starting at 7:00 or 7:30 and staggering post times with their sister track Charles town.

instead we can't let people come home from work for a few minutes, relax, maybe change clothes..... we have to rush them right out to the track. kinda like I don't see too many Phillies, flyers, or sixers games starting at 6:00, lol. :rolleyes:

horsemen want to get the card over early and not only is the game built around their needs, they actually OUTNUMBER US, LOL.

The purse cut is due primarily to falling slot revenues, which funds in excess of 70% of purses. Over the years, Penn has experimented with several start times including the 7:00 to 7:30 window. The current start of 6pm has yielded the best 'handle', thus Penn has stayed with this start time.
The horsemen really didn't drive this decision, it is based on handle.

proximity
12-27-2013, 07:16 PM
Over the years, Penn has experimented with several start times including the 7:00 to 7:30 window. The current start of 6pm has yielded the best 'handle', thus Penn has stayed with this start time.
The horsemen really didn't drive this decision, it is based on handle.

if almost anyone else said this, I wouldn't believe it. but if you say it's true, then I do believe it because of the respect I have for your knowledge. I do wonder why this wouldn't be true for other night circuits though? what is unique about pen? or is it just a case that overall night track handle wouldn't rise with a universal 6:00 start time but that pen was "first" to fill a gap to pick up some kind of lull in the 6:00 hour that other night tracks couldn't duplicate without "cannibalizing" their handle, pen's handle, and overall night handle???

also, something had to drive the initial move to 6:00??

proximity
12-27-2013, 08:42 PM
both the hana and jockey club websites show that north American handle peaked in 2003 and has declined almost every year since. so if pen handle has actually bucked this trend and increased since they moved to 6:00 pm, maybe Charles town should follow suit and start at 6:15??

wiffleball whizz
12-27-2013, 09:07 PM
There's no way anybody can convince me that if pen last 2 races went off at 10:50 and 11:25 pm on a mon-thur it wouldn't get at least 25 percent more handle on those 2 races

In my opinion at 945 when I think the last race goes off though I'm not sure penn national just blends in with the other 6 tracks


Check out northfields last 2 races on a mon and Tuesday when it's the last race going.........flat bettors bet it.....why not capitalize on people's sickness

Penn would be better served with a 730 post

proximity
12-28-2013, 11:24 AM
There's no way anybody can convince me that if pen last 2 races went off at 10:50 and 11:25 pm on a mon-thur it wouldn't get at least 25 percent more handle on those 2 races

In my opinion at 945 when I think the last race goes off though I'm not sure penn national just blends in with the other 6 tracks


Check out northfields last 2 races on a mon and Tuesday when it's the last race going.........flat bettors bet it.....why not capitalize on people's sickness

Penn would be better served with a 730 post

while my instincts tell me you're right, if tonyk@hsh says it's true I must believe him. I don't think my follow up questions are unreasonable though and certainly fit into the general racing discussion theme of this whole section..... a section and board where (while not 100% positive) my percentage of pro penn national comments is probably second only to tonyk's himself.

some of the good: (1) although in the vast minority amongst the many esteemed posters here (meaning there's a damn good chance i'm wrong) I actually supported the slots subsidy to give this mis-managed game a chance to get to its feet and prosper in the state of Pennsylvania. (2) to this very day I still encourage people to handicap and bet the track..... (3) i'm an actual living and breathing live racing fan that has no connection to the backstretch. i'm not an owner, not a trainer, not a groom, not related to a jockey, don't work for the track..... a true minority in the paltry live racing crowds.

TonyK@HSH
12-28-2013, 01:57 PM
There's no way anybody can convince me that if pen last 2 races went off at 10:50 and 11:25 pm on a mon-thur it wouldn't get at least 25 percent more handle on those 2 races

In my opinion at 945 when I think the last race goes off though I'm not sure penn national just blends in with the other 6 tracks


Check out northfields last 2 races on a mon and Tuesday when it's the last race going.........flat bettors bet it.....why not capitalize on people's sickness

Penn would be better served with a 730 post

Excellent comments Whizz-

One thing that we need to keep in mind is that handle can be a tricky thing. For example- a dollar bet on track at Penn is much different than a dollar bet at a simulcast location or ADW (especially before the recent changes in SMF's) to the host track and horsemen alike.
A dollar bet on track at Penn results in 9 cents to the purse fund and race track itself while a dollar bet at some ADW may leave the track and horsemen splitting 3 cents.
Very convoluted ecomonics that drive this business.

Tonyk

proximity
12-28-2013, 03:42 PM
we gotta get people playing slots again.

more bad news from pen: heard we lost another of our long time horseplayers last week. :(

Mineshaft
12-28-2013, 07:09 PM
we gotta get people playing slots again.

more bad news from pen: heard we lost another of our long time horseplayers last week. :(


who?

proximity
12-30-2013, 09:38 PM
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/82599/penn-national-sets-average-handle-record?source=rss


congratulations to penn national on a new handle record!!

my eyes see local interest waning, but apparently we're picking up steam nationally.

Mineshaft
12-30-2013, 09:51 PM
John Locke not a bad trainer at all

proximity
12-30-2013, 09:59 PM
John Locke not a bad trainer at all

always considered mr locke to be a real horseman. pen can be proud to have him as leading trainer.