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wiffleball whizz
11-26-2013, 07:29 PM
Happy holidays everybody and week 12 results will be up later tonight


DET 5 packers 49.5

DAL 6.5 oak 45.5


BAL 3 pit 42


IND 7 ten 44.5

den 2.5 KC 48.5


CLE 10 jax 41.5

CAR 10.5 tam 40.5

MIN 1 chi 48

PHI 4 arz 48.5

NYJ 3 mia 40


BUF 5 atl 48.5

SF 10.5 rams 42

NE 4.5 hou 45

SD PK cincy 45

WSH PK giants 45

SEA 5 saints 45.5

Rise Over Run
11-26-2013, 08:50 PM
Happy holidays everybody and week 12 results will be up later tonight

NE 4.5 hou 45


should be obvious, bu HOU is at home here.

Rise Over Run
11-26-2013, 08:53 PM
mia +3 BB
IND/ten OVER 44.5 BB
DET/packers OVER 49.5
ten +7
den -2.5
PHI -4
NE/HOU OVER 45

wiffleball whizz
11-26-2013, 10:28 PM
Yes Houston is home.......and I haven't really looked at the teams that have given up thread but Houston has to be the lead candidate

Valuist
11-26-2013, 10:46 PM
Cleve favored by 10? Colts by 7? I don't know where those numbers came from.

wiffleball whizz
11-26-2013, 10:48 PM
Cleve favored by 10? Colts by 7? I don't know where those numbers came from.


Scoresandodds?

Stillriledup
11-27-2013, 01:55 AM
OAK BB
TEN BB

Jax
Pitt
SD
NYG
N.E.

newtothegame
11-27-2013, 05:22 AM
DET 5 packers 49.5 BB

NE 4.5 hou 45 BB

DAL 6.5 oak 45.5

CLE 10 jax 41.5

PHI 4 arz 48.5

WSH PK giants 45

SEA 5 saints 45.5
__________________

NTTG

BetHorses!
11-27-2013, 07:19 AM
Cleve favored by 10? Colts by 7? I don't know where those numbers came from.

And Dallas 6.5

I hate contests w stale lines

precocity
11-27-2013, 07:50 AM
And Dallas 6.5

I hate contests w stale lines
how dare you cowboys going to the superbowl :rolleyes:

Valuist
11-27-2013, 10:45 AM
New England -4.5 BB
Denver -2.5 BB
Tenn +7
Jacksonville +10
Tampa Bay +10 1/2
NY Jets -3
Pittsburgh +3

this was edited at 9:51 am CT Wednesday (added Pitt).

wiffleball whizz
11-27-2013, 11:15 AM
And Dallas 6.5

I hate contests w stale lines


Another whiner u can't pick games with stale lines....

Let me call my boss later today and ask him if I can have off till after week 17 so I can update the lines every 14 minutes.....

precocity
11-27-2013, 11:30 AM
DALLAS-OVER BB
SAN FRAN-OVER BB
RAMS
LIONS
PANTHERS-OVER
STEELERS
LIONS-UNDER

horses4courses
11-27-2013, 11:43 AM
Another whiner u can't pick games with stale lines....

Let me call my boss later today and ask him if I can have off till after week 17 so I can update the lines every 14 minutes.....

Only every 14 minutes???
Aww, c'mon whizz............. ;)

horses4courses
11-27-2013, 11:50 AM
NYG/WASH OV BB

Titans BB

Lions

Cowboys

Jaguars

Buccs

Pats

magwell
11-27-2013, 12:27 PM
And Dallas 6.5

I hate contests w stale lines Yep , that sounds like when I took a broke, hungry, homeless guy to have dinner at Mcdonalds and he complained that the food was better at Burger King.....:lol:

KidCapper
11-27-2013, 12:57 PM
Dallas BB
New England BB


Miami
Carolina
Arizona
Kansas City
New York Giants

wiffleball whizz
11-27-2013, 03:25 PM
Yep , that sounds like when I took a broke, hungry, homeless guy to have dinner at Mcdonalds and he complained that the food was better at Burger King.....:lol:


Post of the contest!!!!!! :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

All they do is cry

magwell
11-27-2013, 03:25 PM
Giants =BB..NE=BB....Det...Dal...Den...Tenn...Sea

BetHorses!
11-27-2013, 05:21 PM
Post of the contest!!!!!! :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

All they do is cry


Nobody is crying, the problem is when you have a game at -6.5 and the widely avail line is -10, it forces people to take Dallas -6.5. What good is that if most people are on a game cause the line is off.

That game was never close to 6.5 anywhere or anytime in this world period. You need to use a better source

Robert Goren
11-27-2013, 05:34 PM
Phil BB
NE BB
GB
Det over
Dal
Chi
NYG

wiffleball whizz
11-27-2013, 07:38 PM
Nobody is crying, the problem is when you have a game at -6.5 and the widely avail line is -10, it forces people to take Dallas -6.5. What good is that if most people are on a game cause the line is off.

That game was never close to 6.5 anywhere or anytime in this world period. You need to use a better source


Pick a source......I'm always up for a better place

horses4courses
11-27-2013, 07:41 PM
Nobody is crying, the problem is when you have a game at -6.5 and the widely avail line is -10, it forces people to take Dallas -6.5. What good is that if most people are on a game cause the line is off.

That game was never close to 6.5 anywhere or anytime in this world period. You need to use a better source

It's called freedom of choice - no one is holding a gun to your head to pick it.
You need to find a contest with lines more to your liking, maybe?

Oh, and by the by, Mr. Jimmy the Greek, look under opening line for scoresandodds.com -
it's a perfectly reputable source.
Lines fluctuate a lot sometimes.
There's not a 10 in sight now in Vegas - imagine that :eek: - plenty of 7.5

http://www.scoresandodds.com/footballschedule_thisweek.html

BetHorses!
11-27-2013, 08:41 PM
It's called freedom of choice - no one is holding a gun to your head to pick it.
You need to find a contest with lines more to your liking, maybe?

Oh, and by the by, Mr. Jimmy the Greek, look under opening line for scoresandodds.com -
it's a perfectly reputable source.
Lines fluctuate a lot sometimes.
There's not a 10 in sight now in Vegas - imagine that :eek: - plenty of 7.5

http://www.scoresandodds.com/footballschedule_thisweek.html


And the two games Valuist mentioned are off by 3 points. Yeah good source, funny....And funny you mentioned Vegas...little secret for ya offshore sports books are the market shhhh

magwell
11-27-2013, 09:02 PM
And the two games Valuist mentioned are off by 3 points. Yeah good source, funny....And funny you mentioned Vegas...little secret for ya offshore sports books are the market shhhh As of this minute, Pinnacle and 5Dimes both offshore have the Dallas game at 71/2 .;)

Relwob Owner
11-27-2013, 09:14 PM
Post of the contest!!!!!! :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

All they do is cry


Nothing better than putting something together by yourself and then having people bitch....of course there are going to be some spread issues, people should just skip that game and move on. Thx for putting this together WW

Relwob Owner
11-27-2013, 09:15 PM
KC-BB
Carolina-BB
Houston
Washington
Jax
Tenn
Cincy

horses4courses
11-27-2013, 10:38 PM
And the two games Valuist mentioned are off by 3 points. Yeah good source, funny....And funny you mentioned Vegas...little secret for ya offshore sports books are the market shhhh

Offshore? oh yeah.....the criminals.
I've always liked to keep my wagering fully legal, thank you very much.

Thanks for all the hard work you have put into this, whizz :ThmbUp:

cj's dad
11-28-2013, 12:26 AM
[QUOTE=wiffleball whizz]Pick a source......I'm always up for a better place[/QUOTE

Hey Whiz; maybe you should refund his entry fee :lol:

cj's dad
11-28-2013, 12:38 AM
Detroit BB
Buffalo BB
Patriots
Bengals
Ravens
Eagles
Dallas

Striker
11-28-2013, 01:39 AM
Lions--BB
Ravens--BB
Dallas
Miami
Bears
SD
Wash

thaskalos
11-28-2013, 02:06 AM
St.L. BB
Jax. BB

T.B.
Ten.
Oak.
N.E.
Mia.

rastajenk
11-28-2013, 06:25 AM
GB +5
Oak +6.5
Pitt +3BB
Tenn +7
Den -2.5BB
Jax +10
Tam +10

Jay Trotter
11-28-2013, 08:32 AM
BAL -3
den -2.5 BB
chi +1
NE -4.5
giants PK
saints +5 BB
NYJ -3

Rookies
11-28-2013, 09:11 AM
DET BB
Buff BB
Balt
NE
Dall
Cinci
SF

mymkovski
11-28-2013, 10:12 AM
DET - BB
DAL - BB
BAL
DEN
NE
NYG
SEA Over

BetHorses!
11-28-2013, 10:27 AM
Jax +10 BB

Titans +7 BB

Pats -4.5

Dolphins +3

Broncos -2.5

Bears +1

Cards +4

NJ Stinks
11-28-2013, 12:27 PM
Arizona +4 BB
New England - 4.5 BB

over 45.5 Cowboys/Raiders
Jacksonville +10
Over 48 - Vikings/Bears
Buffalo -5
Giants - Pick'em

precocity
11-28-2013, 04:59 PM
how you get clipped by half a point on the under?
DET 5 packers 49.5

:rolleyes:

Stillriledup
11-29-2013, 12:26 PM
I see in the original post that the Raiders were getting 6.5 and for some reason, i could have sworn i saw 10...but the post isnt edited by Whizz, so im assuming i just made a mistake and the spread was never really 10.

I'm kind of hoping to get credit for the BB win on Oakland, i could really use the win. :D

RunForTheRoses
11-29-2013, 01:19 PM
MIN BB
NE BB
RAMS
DEN
DEN UN
JAX
BUF UN

burnsy
11-30-2013, 07:55 AM
Denver BB
Arizona BB

Buffalo
Miami
St. Louis
New England
Seattle

Marshall Bennett
11-30-2013, 08:22 AM
New England BB
New Orleans BB
Tennessee
N.Y. Jets
San Diego
Kansas City
N.Y. Giants

wiffleball whizz
11-30-2013, 10:43 AM
I've looked at various sites on different sites and have seen Dallas anywhere from 9 up to 10.5 in various spots basically which is nowhere in the stratosphere of 6.5........

I'm gonna figure out a solution to this game......may award points for a losing raider selection


Also I do have the standings from the last 3 weeks which I will post later on today


Also need a suggestion on what the second half prize will be as it looks like the overall winner is a race between precocity and rise over run but "ROR" is a machine with his never ending strings of 11-14 point weeks

BetHorses!
11-30-2013, 01:15 PM
I've looked at various sites on different sites and have seen Dallas anywhere from 9 up to 10.5 in various spots basically which is nowhere in the stratosphere of 6.5........

I'm gonna figure out a solution to this game......may award points for a losing raider selection


Also I do have the standings from the last 3 weeks which I will post later on today


Also need a suggestion on what the second half prize will be as it looks like the overall winner is a race between precocity and rise over run but "ROR" is a machine with his never ending strings of 11-14 point weeks


I got hammered on my original comments. My point was simple, letting guys bet openers on game day is really not a contest. The winning players are guys who constantly beat the market close. This type of contest pretty much forces people to lay or take the good number, BUT Dallas was never 6.5 anywhere last week, so that number was a bad number as is a few others.

If people say I am crying, thats BS, I already declined any prize should I ever win one. Me Valuist and a few others have been posting games here since 2005, and we always used numbers that were widely available at time of post

You can pick a offshore place such as CRIS or Pinny and use their lines provided they are not greater than -110 juice

Live and learn for next year, imo only a few weeks left

wiffleball whizz
11-30-2013, 02:35 PM
I got hammered on my original comments. My point was simple, letting guys bet openers on game day is really not a contest. The winning players are guys who constantly beat the market close. This type of contest pretty much forces people to lay or take the good number, BUT Dallas was never 6.5 anywhere last week, so that number was a bad number as is a few others.

If people say I am crying, thats BS, I already declined any prize should I ever win one. Me Valuist and a few others have been posting games here since 2005, and we always used numbers that were widely available at time of post

You can pick a offshore place such as CRIS or Pinny and use their lines provided they are not greater than -110 juice

Live and learn for next year, imo only a few weeks left


Good points

BetHorses!
11-30-2013, 02:57 PM
Good points

stale points :lol:

proximity
11-30-2013, 05:40 PM
texans under 45 bb
seahawks -5 bb

browns -10
tampa +10.5
tampa under 40.5
cardinals +4
cardinals under 48.5

HuggingTheRail
11-30-2013, 09:19 PM
Indy BB
Chic UNDER BB

Miami
New England
Cinci
Carolina
Buffalo

Phantombridgejumpe
11-30-2013, 09:56 PM
NYJ BB
Den
Jax
Chi
Stl Rams
NYG BB
Sea/NO Over

wiffleball whizz
12-01-2013, 10:47 AM
Min bb
NYJ bb

Car
Ten
Sea
Kc
WSH

KidCapper
12-01-2013, 11:23 AM
Pick a source......I'm always up for a better place


http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/

This is a great site for opening lines Whizz. It shows the opening line, a consensus line. and lines from various casinos on the strip and online. Has opening lines for next weeks games already.

KidCapper

newtothegame
12-01-2013, 11:39 AM
For what its worth, I am not too sure you can do anything with the Dal/Oak game. Here's my reasoning....
The line was posted and everyone had a choice to determine if that line was bad or not and make selections based on that line. I chose Dal.

If the line would of been 9.5-10.5, it could of changed peoples mind. I chose it specifically due to it being 6.5.

If you give those who chose Oak a win (due to a bad line), then it would offset those who chose Dal (which would defeat the purpose of chosing Dal @ 6.5).

Can't really take it off the board and have only 6 games chosen theis week because how would you compensate for those who chose games and didn't have the Oak Dal game selected?

I say ya just role with it and get a new site if you don't trust those numbers for next week.....

wiffleball whizz
12-01-2013, 12:22 PM
For what its worth, I am not too sure you can do anything with the Dal/Oak game. Here's my reasoning....
The line was posted and everyone had a choice to determine if that line was bad or not and make selections based on that line. I chose Dal.

If the line would of been 9.5-10.5, it could of changed peoples mind. I chose it specifically due to it being 6.5.

If you give those who chose Oak a win (due to a bad line), then it would offset those who chose Dal (which would defeat the purpose of chosing Dal @ 6.5).

Can't really take it off the board and have only 6 games chosen theis week because how would you compensate for those who chose games and didn't have the Oak Dal game selected?



I say ya just role with it and get a new site if you don't trust those numbers for next week.....


Great point!!

On a side note thinking about riding rise over runs picks this week cuz I need winners......if he went 1-7 I'd hang myself

precocity
12-01-2013, 12:49 PM
Great point!!

On a side note thinking about riding rise over runs picks this week cuz I need winners......if he went 1-7 I'd hang myself
:lol: yep his winning is turning ME into a HATER!

ManU918
12-01-2013, 03:32 PM
Rams +7.5 BB
Broncos -2.5 BB
Bengals PK
Falcons +5
Giants PK
Seahawks -5
Saints vs Seahawks Over 45.5

Stillriledup
12-01-2013, 04:33 PM
OAK BB
TEN BB

Jax
Pitt
SD
NYG
N.E.

I deserved a better fate with my BBs. :bang:

Valuist
12-02-2013, 09:40 AM
Pick a source......I'm always up for a better place

Don Best.com