Up to 70% of ObamaCare systems not built yet

[Clocker]

Well, they have until next year. They want to take their time and get it right.

Testimony of Henry Chao, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services deputy chief information officer, in a House hearing today:

Representative Cory Gardner (R., Colo.) asks Chao what percentage of the system remains to be built.Chao says, “I think it’s, uh, just an approximation, we’re probably sitting somewhere between 60 and 70 percent, because we still have to build the systems–”

Gardner responds incredulously, “Sixty to seventy percent that needs to be built, still?”

Chao responds, “Because we still have to build the payment systems to make payments to issuers in January.”

“Let me get this correct,” Gardner says, “60 to 70 percent of Healthcare.gov still needs to be built?”

Chao responds, “It’s not really Healthcare.gov, it’s the federally facilitated marketplace.”


Article (http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/364342/administration-official-obamacare-payment-systems-still-need-be-built-jim)

So the web site is sort of built and sort of functioning, and the payment system is on the Xmas wish list.

[davew]

part of the strategy is to improve experience of consumers

[ArlJim78]

OK 3 years and $500 million got us roughly 30% of the way there. so what, another 7 years and a couple billion more to finish the job?
sounds about right.

[shouldacoulda]

Gee, maybe that's why it doesn't work. That isn't the unbelievable part. The unbelievable part is nobody has or is getting fired. Never hesitate to lower your expectations.

[Clocker]

There is still the little matter of security also. Four security consultants testified before Congress today, and all of them said they would not recommend anyone enter any private information on the site.

“Hackers are definitely after it,” said David Kennedy, CEO of information security firm TrustedSEC before a House Science, Space, and Technology committee hearing on security concerns surrounding the problematic Healthcare.gov website.

“And if I had to guess, based on what I can see … I would say the website is either hacked already or will be soon.”



Article here. (http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/11/19/healthcaregov-already-compromised-security-expert-says/)

One of the security experts said that there haven't been a relatively large number of hacker attempts to date because you don't try to break into a bank while it is still being built. You wait until it opens for business.

[Clocker]

The unbelievable part is nobody has or is getting fired. Never hesitate to lower your expectations.

I am seeing a lot of indications that no one is going to be fired over this until well after it blows over. This mess is so high profile at the moment that firing people would be like throwing gas on a fire.

And being the cynic that I am, I suspect that the people to be fired could easily be shown to be way over their heads in the jobs they were doing. Kind of like Obama and Sebelius, but the next few levels down. In a rational world, Sebelius should be leading the parade out the door, but that clearly demonstrates incompetence by Obama in hiring her.

So rather than risk an even bigger circus and even more charges of incompetence on the part of the administration for lack of leadership, firings will be delayed, probably well into next year. Then people will be disappeared.

[JustRalph]

I started a thread about this. This could be an issue that comes back to haunt people for years to come


There is still the little matter of security also. Four security consultants testified before Congress today, and all of them said they would not recommend anyone enter any private information on the site.



Article here. (http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/11/19/healthcaregov-already-compromised-security-expert-says/)

One of the security experts said that there haven't been a relatively large number of hacker attempts to date because you don't try to break into a bank while it is still being built. You wait until it opens for business.

[Track Collector]

And being the cynic that I am, I suspect that the people to be fired could easily be shown to be way over their heads in the jobs they were doing. Kind of like Obama and Sebelius, but the next few levels down. In a rational world, Sebelius should be leading the parade out the door, but that clearly demonstrates incompetence by Obama in hiring her.

So rather than risk an even bigger circus and even more charges of incompetence on the part of the administration for lack of leadership, firings will be delayed, probably well into next year. Then people will be disappeared.

When it comes to Obama, technical skill sets are of secondary concern to be hired and/or appointed to key positions. One must first and foremost be like-minded with regard to (the socialist and big government) ideology.

I'm looking for a number of Democrats and Republican RINOs to disappear from the House and the Senate with the 2014 elections. :D

[boxcar]

part of the strategy is to improve experience of consumers

Is that almost the same as a government official saying, "I'm here to help"? :D

Boxcar

[Clocker]

When it comes to Obama, technical skill sets are of secondary concern to be hired and/or appointed to key positions. One must first and foremost be like-minded with regard to (the socialist and big government) ideology.

That's how he got to where he is today. Why mess with a winning system? ;)

[Clocker]

Is that almost the same as a government official saying, "I'm here to help"? :D


It's what they live for. Some people just don't know what is good for them.

[mostpost]

Well, they have until next year. They want to take their time and get it right.

Testimony of Henry Chao, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services deputy chief information officer, in a House hearing today:


Article (http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/364342/administration-official-obamacare-payment-systems-still-need-be-built-jim)

So the web site is sort of built and sort of functioning, and the payment system is on the Xmas wish list.
If you listened to Chao's testimony he said that the Healthcare.gov website is fully operational albeit with continuing problems. He said that what he called back office systems were still being built. And he corrected Gardner when Gardner said those systems were still 60 to 70% incomplete. Chao clearly said that the system was 70% complete with 30% yet to be completed.

The main thing to remember is this particular system is not needed until January.

[newtothegame]

Yeah, that albatross of an Oct 1 rollout actually meant nothing......so what if people tried logging on and were unable...Only Jan 1 means anything now.....
So what if DHHS said by end of Nov...that means nothing either....

I get it mosty, finally....NOTHING THIS ADMINISTRATION SAYS MEANS ANYTHING......:lol:

[JustRalph]

Yeah, that albatross of an Oct 1 rollout actually meant nothing......so what if people tried logging on and were unable...Only Jan 1 means anything now.....
So what if DHHS said by end of Nov...that means nothing either....

I get it mosty, finally....NOTHING THIS ADMINISTRATION SAYS MEANS ANYTHING......:lol:

Don't forget. If you did log in........ your data is now floating around cyberspace

[Clocker]

The main thing to remember is this particular system is not needed until January.

The system, which at the very least, even in your expert opinion, is 30% of the system, is not needed for 6 more weeks!

Well, then, they had best get started on it, shouldn't they?

“Because we still have to build the payment systems to make payments to issuers in January.”

[Tom]

This is what you get when you elect a man who never held a real job, never had any executive experience, never lived in the real world. We tried to warn everyone in 2008. Next time, when you see community organizer on a resume, remember, this is what you get.

[Robert Goren]

This is what you get when you elect a man who never held a real job, never had any executive experience, never lived in the real world. We tried to warn everyone in 2008. Next time, when you see community organizer on a resume, remember, this is what you get.Beats the hell out of a old geezer without any real executive experience who never saw a dog and cat fight that he didn't want to send American troops into. Being your Father-In-Law's errand boy doesn't count. Next time when you warn us, give us somebody better to vote for.

[newtothegame]

Sorry to tell you sluethy, Romney has way more experience then BO will ever have. Just to bring you into this century, Romney ran against BO, not Bush.....

[mostpost]

This is what you get when you elect a man who never held a real job, never had any executive experience, never lived in the real world. We tried to warn everyone in 2008. Next time, when you see community organizer on a resume, remember, this is what you get.
Do you mean like Abraham Lincoln whose only executive experience prior to being president was running a general store in New Salem, Illinois. A store that failed financially. Maybe you are referring to Harry Truman whose only executive experience was as a haberdasher. That store failed also. Jphn F Kennedy never held an executive position in either Government or the private sector. Yet all three were successful President.

On the other hand, Andrew Johnson (tn.), Rutherford B. Hayes (Oh.), William McKinley (Oh), and George W. Bush (Tx,) were all Republican governors who had less than successful terms as President.

So you theory that you have to have executive experience to be a good president or that anyone lacking that experience is a bad president is pretty much what all of your theories are-crap.

[mostpost]

Sorry to tell you sluethy, Romney has way more experience then BO will ever have. Just to bring you into this century, Romney ran against BO, not Bush.....
Just to bring you back to reality, Goren was referring to John McCain not Bush.
And he was referring to the 2008 election not the 2012 election.

[Clocker]

Do you mean like Abraham Lincoln whose only executive experience prior to being president was running a general store in New Salem, Illinois. A store that failed financially. Maybe you are referring to Harry Truman whose only executive experience was as a haberdasher. That store failed also. Jphn F Kennedy never held an executive position in either Government or the private sector. Yet all three were successful President.

All are know primarily for leadership and strength of character in times of national crisis. I would argue that all three were below average for administrative skills. None are known for their legislative accomplishments.

Obama is increasingly known for his lack of leadership skill and his lack of strength of character. His idea of leadership in times of crisis is to leave Washington and make speeches, preferably on college campuses. It takes him weeks, if not months, to make big decisions (Iraq surge, kill Osama, etc.). Kennedy went public immediately to take the blame for the Bay of Pigs. Obama still blames Benghazi on a video.

Obama refuses to negotiate with Republicans to get things done. He won't compromise. He won't even talk to them in good faith. Now his own cabinet members are complaining that he won't talk with them. They say that they can't get past the White House staff. How's that for leadership. The incredible lack of competence and leadership and communication in the HealthCare.gov kerfuffle is just a large eruption of what has been boiling under the surface for 5 years. The man is an empty suit.

[TJDave]

Maybe you are referring to Harry Truman whose only executive experience was as a haberdasher. That store failed also.

There's a restaurant I used to frequent in the Kansas City area. Famous for their apple pie. Been there for decades. Has a framed NSF check from then Senator Harry S. Truman...for five dollars.

[JustRalph]

Do you mean like Abraham Lincoln whose only executive experience prior to being president was running a general store in New Salem, Illinois. A store that failed financially. Maybe you are referring to Harry Truman whose only executive experience was as a haberdasher. That store failed also. Jphn F Kennedy never held an executive position in either Government or the private sector. Yet all three were successful President.

On the other hand, Andrew Johnson (tn.), Rutherford B. Hayes (Oh.), William McKinley (Oh), and George W. Bush (Tx,) were all Republican governors who had less than successful terms as President.

So you theory that you have to have executive experience to be a good president or that anyone lacking that experience is a bad president is pretty much what all of your theories are-crap.

You are so full of it sometimes. Comparing the country in 1861 to running it today i.e. Lincoln is apples to oranges big time. Comparing Truman who took over and was roundly criticized for his management, to those today is disingenuous because he was managing a country united in one thing. Winning a war. Nothing else mattered. The world was also a markedly safer place.

Then you toss out JFK. In spite of the folklore, he was not a successful President. He embarrassed himself and the country with the Bay of Pigs fiasco, leaving men to die for political reasons. His handling of the Cuban missile crisis has been debated over and over and he doesn't come out smelling like a rose in that area either. He was a womanizing philandering man who was addicted to pain killers from his war injuries. His win in the Presidential election is more than suspect. Winning a second term was a guess because he was behind in Texas early in the forward looking polls.

He is remembered for the space program that ultimately he wasn't around to oversee. I get he inspired many, in dying he never got the chance to prove himself. That's a damn shame. But in the time he had, it was nothing special, unless you want to give him credit for creating the illusion and setting the bar for future PR management of the White House and it's image. Camelot my ass........

[Saratoga_Mike]

Well said Ralph.