Who Wagers The Melbourne Cup ?

[nijinski]

Because it's two days away .

Way too close to the Breeders Cup . Besides , it's on a Tuesday , they
close up everything for it .

Haven't been able to follow the runners over there this year so I'm
totally in the dark .

[wiffleball whizz]

Because it's two days away .

Way too close to the Breeders Cup . Besides , it's on a Tuesday , they
close up everything for it .

Haven't been able to follow the runners over there this year so I'm
totally in the dark .

Must be nice to worry about Tuesday wagering activities....I'm jealous!!

I remember when I used to be able to go fire away on Tuesday....those days are gone

[Some_One]

Actually it's Tomorrow night on this side of the pond, lots of Euros in the field this year

[nijinski]

Must be nice to worry about Tuesday wagering activities....I'm jealous!!

I remember when I used to be able to go fire away on Tuesday....those days are gone
No way do I have time for it either but I used to enjoy capping it .
I might try to make time if I get out on time Tuesday .

[nijinski]

Actually it's Tomorrow night on this side of the pond, lots of Euros in the field this year
Do you know what time?

[Some_One]

Cup Post time is 11 pm est

[nijinski]

Cup Post time is 11 pm est

Thank You

I see they have their own drama :lol:

Lloyd Williams, the dominant owner with six horses in the Melbourne Cup, has called out rival English trainer Ed Dunlop for his comments suggesting that Williams could "boss" the race with a quarter of the field

[Some_One]

For a price, I do like Foreteller (25-1 on the Aussie fixed prices currently), to go with two horses that we've seen on this side of the pond before, Dandino (winner of the Arlington St Leger this year and a very good 2nd in the Caufield Cup) and Sea Moon (ran in the BC a couple years ago)

[nijinski]

For a price, I do like Foreteller (25-1 on the Aussie fixed prices currently), to go with two horses that we've seen on this side of the pond before, Dandino (winner of the Arlington St Leger this year and a very good 2nd in the Caufield Cup) and Sea Moon (ran in the BC a couple years ago)

I'll take a look tomorrow night thanks
I see Dandino is from Botti's barn . He's a busy man these days .

[HuggingTheRail]

At this point, I like :10: :8:

[nijinski]

At this point, I like :10: :8:

Do you have the pps?

[Some_One]

australianracing.com
http://www.racingandsports.com.au/en/form-guide/meeting.asp?raceno=7&meeting=36064

[nijinski]

australianracing.com
http://www.racingandsports.com.au/en/form-guide/meeting.asp?raceno=7&meeting=36064

A little foreign to me , lol ...but nice , Thanks !

[Robert Fischer]

australianracing.com
http://www.racingandsports.com.au/en/form-guide/meeting.asp?raceno=7&meeting=36064

cool, is there a way to access replays ?

[Robert Fischer]

Voleuse De Coeurs would be my favorite and Red Cadeaux the longshot.


total guess

[Krudler]

I'm a Canadian racing fan and handicapper, er...punter living Down Under for the year. Pretty excited about tomorrow's Melbourne Cup.

I'm a teacher and the plan is to gather all the students and staff in the gym, er...hall to watch the race at 3:00 pm AEDT. Seems a far cry from North America where I'd be raked over the coals for bringing up anything to do with horse racing and gambling in my classroom.

I've briefly handicapped the race and I prefer the Euros to the home bred horses. I think the best value is :19: - Simenon. He's an Irish bred who has a record of 2-1-1 at the 3200 m (Ouch!) distance and is in good form. His odds at the moment are 18/1 to win.

In descending, order I'm also picking the :6: - Fiorente (IRE), the :4: - Sea Moon (GB), and the :10: - Fawkner (AUS).

Even Dave Schwartz might think that 4 picks is a bit indulgent but please forgive me as it's a 24 horse field while I write this. I'm anticipating a scratch or two, mind you.

Gotta run and put the finishing touches on my fascinator for tomorrow...

[olddaddy]

I enjoy the race. Huge field, euro invaders, nice course and value galore.

[dkithore]

Do you know what time?
It is race #7A and likely after 8 p.m. pacific time.
It is sight to see. I am capping it now and I am taking long shot Brown Panther and couple others.

More on this later.

[turninforhome10]

This is truly one of the best websites for Australian and really any racing. The features the Ausssies get for free is amazing. Take some time to play with features on the left and create your own custom speed maps and factor assesments with sliders and easy navigation. You'll also find a almost real time look at the totes at many major bookmakers. I wish TS or Express would do something like this. Only downfall is no way to import CSV files.
http://www.puntersparadise.com.au/form-guide/Flemington_27715/Emirates-Melbourne-Cup_194299/#Overview

[horses4courses]

I'll be watching for sure - may even make a small wager.
Always a spectacle, and one of the world's top races.

I've actually seen one of the entrants in the flesh.
Irish invader Simenon ran at Punchestown in Feb 2012 - I was there with my wife and son. He is a serious stayer who will run all day - but I'm not convinced that he can sustain the fast pace in this race. You can't be too far off the lead in the final 4-6 furlongs, and they go very quick for a turf marathon. Simenon may surprise, and trainer Willie Mullins is as sharp as they come. I can't recall him ever shipping to Australia before. Wishing them luck!

I do play the PK4 at Aus B regularly when there are carryovers.
It's had a positive ROI for me for several years running, and same again in 2013.

Racing Down Under is fine by me..... :ThmbUp:

[dkithore]

I'm a Canadian racing fan and handicapper, er...punter living Down Under for the year. Pretty excited about tomorrow's Melbourne Cup.

I'm a teacher and the plan is to gather all the students and staff in the gym, er...hall to watch the race at 3:00 pm AEDT. Seems a far cry from North America where I'd be raked over the coals for bringing up anything to do with horse racing and gambling in my classroom.

I've briefly handicapped the race and I prefer the Euros to the home bred horses. I think the best value is :19: - Simenon. He's an Irish bred who has a record of 2-1-1 at the 3200 m (Ouch!) distance and is in good form. His odds at the moment are 18/1 to win.

In descending, order I'm also picking the :6: - Fiorente (IRE), the :4: - Sea Moon (GB), and the :10: - Fawkner (AUS).

Even Dave Schwartz might think that 4 picks is a bit indulgent but please forgive me as it's a 24 horse field while I write this. I'm anticipating a scratch or two, mind you.

Gotta run and put the finishing touches on my fascinator for tomorrow...
fyi, Dave is not bashful about betting moredepending onvalue. I will definitelyconsider your suggestions (19) if price is right. Others do notexcite me as much. Fiorente's defeat by SHamus AWard, a maiden inhis last was not inspiring to me. These areclassy horses and could show up for the 6 million dollar prize. best of luck to all.

[nijinski]

I'm a Canadian racing fan and handicapper, er...punter living Down Under for the year. Pretty excited about tomorrow's Melbourne Cup.

I'm a teacher and the plan is to gather all the students and staff in the gym, er...hall to watch the race at 3:00 pm AEDT. Seems a far cry from North America where I'd be raked over the coals for bringing up anything to do with horse racing and gambling in my classroom.

I've briefly handicapped the race and I prefer the Euros to the home bred horses. I think the best value is :19: - Simenon. He's an Irish bred who has a record of 2-1-1 at the 3200 m (Ouch!) distance and is in good form. His odds at the moment are 18/1 to win.

In descending, order I'm also picking the :6: - Fiorente (IRE), the :4: - Sea Moon (GB), and the :10: - Fawkner (AUS).

Even Dave Schwartz might think that 4 picks is a bit indulgent but please forgive me as it's a 24 horse field while I write this. I'm anticipating a scratch or two, mind you.

Gotta run and put the finishing touches on my fascinator for tomorrow...
I assume you are outside of Melbourne .It's a holiday there so I guess schools are closed , enjoy !

[NJ Stinks]

I've actually seen one of the entrants in the flesh.
Irish invader Simenon ran at Punchestown in Feb 2012 - I was there with my wife and son. He is a serious stayer who will run all day - but I'm not convinced that he can sustain the fast pace in this race. You can't be too far off the lead in the final 4-6 furlongs, and they go very quick for a turf marathon. Simenon may surprise, and trainer Willie Mullins is as sharp as they come. I can't recall him ever shipping to Australia before. Wishing them luck!



Small world. :) I saw Simenon win at Royal Ascot (the Ascot Stakes - an ungraded handicap) in June 2012. The race distance was 2.5 miles.

I'm definitely taking a shot on this gelding tonight. Not because I have a clue about most of the field. Oh no. This is all about having an interest and some fun Down Under! :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

P.S. And Krudler, that's an awesome fascinator! :cool:

[nijinski]

I can only wager on TVG here in NJ , I hope the race will be there :lol:

[horses4courses]

Small world. :) I saw Simenon win at Royal Ascot (the Ascot Stakes - an ungraded handicap) in June 2012. The race distance was 2.5 miles.

I'm definitely taking a shot on this gelding tonight. Not because I have a clue about most of the field. Oh no. This is all about having an interest and some fun Down Under! :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

P.S. And Krudler, that's an awesome fascinator! :cool:

Willie Mullins is as shrewd as they come - he ships to win, and often does.
No Irish trainer has saddled as many jump winners when shipping to the UK in recent years,
and his charges are laden with stamina and ability.

Simenon has been bet down to around 10-1 with the UK books today.
In Australia, he is around 15-1. If I can get odds close to 15-1 near post time, I will stick a little win and place on him, just for kicks!

[Track Phantom]

Looking at these 20 horse fields for Australian racing, even with the PP's, is like trying to handicap the roulette wheel. Absolutely impossible...at least for me.

[horses4courses]

Looking at these 20 horse fields for Australian racing, even with the PP's, is like trying to handicap the roulette wheel. Absolutely impossible...at least for me.

TwinSpires is offering a $20K guarantee on a late PK4 tonight at Flemington, plus a 20% bonus on winning tickets. Honestly, that's like offering a bonus on the Lotto - that PK4 is extremely difficult.

[Track Phantom]

I love the late night racing with full fields but I cannot apply even one simple handicapping angle with these pp's. I feel like it's 1986 and I'm trying to pick a horse with the daily program. Whew....

By the way, a bonus X $0 = $0

[horses4courses]

I love the late night racing with full fields but I cannot apply even one simple handicapping angle with these pp's. I feel like it's 1986 and I'm trying to pick a horse with the daily program. Whew....

By the way, a bonus X $0 = $0

I agree - if I play it at all, which is unlikely, it will be for a whopping $10.
Like taking a wizz into a headwind...... :lol:

[Track Phantom]

For what it is worth, I'm going with #13 SUPER COOL (30-1).

[PhantomOnTour]

I fluked it out and nailed this race last year with Green Moon at 16-1.
Pushing my luck and trying again...I like the #18 and #22 on top with many underneath:

ex
18-22 w 1-3-4-6-7-10-17-18-22
win
6-22

[ArlJim78]

I put a little play on :17: Voleuse de Coeurs.

[olddaddy]

:5: :16: 21 exb

[HuggingTheRail]

At this point, I like :10: :8:

Sticking with $10 win bets on 8,10

$1 EXA 10 // 2,4,6,8,12,13,15,17,19,22 and reverse

bet $40

Love watching this race each year...

[nijinski]

:18: . :12: , :10:

[Robert Fischer]

:3: :6: :8: :10: :17: :18: 21

7 horse ex bx :confused:

:8: = top pick , :3: = interesting longshot

[CincyHorseplayer]

2 win/place

2 w4-6-8-10-16-21 box

Strange pedigrees!

[olddaddy]

I fluked it out and nailed this race last year with Green Moon at 16-1.
Pushing my luck and trying again...I like the #18 and #22 on top with many underneath:

ex
18-22 w 1-3-4-6-7-10-17-18-22
win
6-22

No 6-3?

[nijinski]

Now that's a test of stamina !

[cj]

Fun race, that couldn't have been much pace, they were so bunched turning for home.

[olddaddy]

:3: :6: :8: :10: :17: :18: 21

7 horse ex bx :confused:

:8: = top pick , :3: = interesting longshot

Very nice

[iceknight]

:3: :6: :8: :10: :17: :18: 21

7 horse ex bx :confused:

:8: = top pick , :3: = interesting longshot Nice call on Red Cadeux, he came a fast finishing second in the Dubai world cup to AK, so I cant believe they let him go at this price..but I guess the distance was a question?

i think the exacta payoff would be nice! 746? on an 84 bet! Nice :ThmbUp:

I am excited just that I was somehow able to catch this race live. I was looking at something else and then noticed the thread and time post. just launched xpressbet at 1mtp, did nt even see who the horses were.. but Dandino and Red Cadeaux are the only two I have heard of! :blush:

[Some_One]

Agree about Red Cadeux, since winning the HK Vase and placing in Dubai, his form has not been good, guess he just likes the Aussie sun or something.

[PhantomOnTour]

Congrats to Gai Waterhouse...what a lady

Red Cadeaux is a warrior, baby :ThmbUp:

Managed to throw the #3 underneath but still missed it...small win saver on Fiorente but I still lost money

This is one of the top 5 races in the world imo, maybe top 3

[horses4courses]

Gai Waterhouse has had the best stable in Australia for some time.
Nice to see her win the Big One....... :ThmbUp:

[Robert Fischer]

What a race. It's a cavalry charge. Would have missed it if not for this thread.

[NJ Stinks]

Had $10 across on Simenon. Had no idea where he was until they put up the results.

One thing is for sure. This isn't the first time Red Cadeaux :ThmbUp: nailed me.

[nijinski]

What a race. It's a cavalry charge. Would have missed it if not for this thread.
I didn't see the official result yet . Did you hit ?

[HuggingTheRail]

Nice picking Robert, and all others! :ThmbUp:

[Robert Fischer]

I didn't see the official result yet . Did you hit ?

got the exacta :)

wish I had keyed more on that 3!

*finished 6-3-15-19

[PhantomOnTour]

Nice job Rob !

[nijinski]

got the exacta :)

wish I had keyed more on that 3!

*finished 6-3-15-19

Good job , congrats !

[nijinski]

Had $10 across on Simenon. Had no idea where he was until they put up the results.

One thing is for sure. This isn't the first time Red Cadeaux :ThmbUp: nailed me.

$42.00 to place :eek:

[iceknight]

$42.00 to place :eek: I think that was US pools. In australia he seems to have paid less?

http://www.theroar.com.au/2013/11/05/melbourne-cup-2013-red-cadeaux-runs-second-again/

Red Cadeaux jumped as a $61.00 chance and was not fancied in any betting markets despite his fantastic record at Flemington. Ultimately, he paid $11 for the place.

That should mean 29-1 on win approx were post time odds there. On Xpressbet I saw 51-1 for Red Cadeux and 5-1 on the winner Fiorente

[iceknight]

Nice call on Red Cadeux, he came a fast finishing second in the Dubai world cup to AK, so I cant believe they let him go at this price..but I guess the distance was a question? << Was never a question now that I find out he ran 2nd in 2011 in same race and was beaten by a nose hair

i think the exacta payoff would be nice! 746? on an 84 bet! Nice :ThmbUp:

I am excited just that I was somehow able to catch this race live. I was looking at something else and then noticed the thread and time post. just launched xpressbet at 1mtp, did nt even see who the horses were.. but Dandino and Red Cadeaux are the only two I have heard of! :blush: I had known him only from the Dubai world cup and did nt look at any PPs or follow this horse much. my bad on the distance comment. Of course, his irish st leger fiasco caused this price.

[cj]

Place is top 3 for a race with that field size, not like our place.

[nijinski]

It likes to be a very different handicapping format for this type of race .

[Krudler]

Nice hit with the exacta, Robert.

While I'm living in the ACT and Melbourne Cup Day isn't a holiday like it is in Victoria, a mate from school sprung me early so I could watch the race at the local sports bar.

It was quite a scene. The packed room hooted and hollered during the loooooong race but was hushed for the stretch run as we were all trying to figure out which horses were actually charging for home! I haven't seen a race with a 24 horse field before so it was remarkable to see them strung out 8-10 wide as they came around the final turn!

[Seabiscuit@AR]

Funny how these things work out. The jockey and trainer of the winner were involved in the 2 most controversial incidents of the Australian turf in the last 12 months

Jockey Damien Oliver was lucky to be riding in the race. Should have been suspended for longer than the 9 or 10 months he got for betting $10000 on the other fave in a race he was riding in. The suspension was crafted so that he would not miss the spring carnival

Then trainer Gai Waterhouse also got off light in the More Joyous affair of 6 months or so ago

These 2 have rarely teamed up in the past

[PhantomOnTour]

I love this race...an event second to none in horse racing.
I will be playing "The race that stops a nation" tomorrow night with gusto.

No clue who's running (unless the gritty Red Cadeaux is back again)but I will do my homework tomorrow.

Just a reminder :ThmbUp:

[horses4courses]

I love this race...an event second to none in horse racing.
I will be playing "The race that stops a nation" tomorrow night with gusto.

No clue who's running (unless the gritty Red Cadeaux is back again)but I will do my homework tomorrow.

Just a reminder :ThmbUp:

Yep....old warrior :4: Red Cadeaux going to post :ThmbUp:
He's at 17-1 right now on the NSW tote.
:6: Sea Moon is scratched....looks like twenty three horses running.

Looks like an all-out foreign raid on the race this year.
Ten from Europe, and at least one from Japan.


RUNNER (BARRIER)
FORM
JOCKEY | TRAINER

1 ADMIRE RAKTI (8) x20x1
Zac Purton 58.5 4.80 1.95 5.90 3.80
2 CAVALRYMAN (3) x114x
Craig Williams 57 23.00 6.50 13.70 3.20
3 FAWKNER (9) 7x212
Nicholas Hall 57 9.00 3.00 9.70 3.50
4 RED CADEAUX (15) 60x47
Gerald Mosse 57 18.00 5.25 14.60 4.70
5 PROTECTIONIST (11) 22114
Ryan Moore 56.5 7.50 2.62 10.00 4.10
6 SEA MOON (18) x8x50
Tommy Berry 56.5 SCR SCR SCR SCR
7 SEISMOS (1) 641x0
Craig Newitt 56 51.00 13.50 41.60 14.90
8 JUNOOB (7) 86117
Hugh Bowman 55.5 26.00 7.25 24.30 6.20
9 ROYAL DIAMOND (6) 20x26
Steven Arnold 55.5 61.00 16.00 58.60 14.90
10 GATEWOOD (22) 1212x
William Buick 55 51.00 13.50 53.50 15.70
11 MUTUAL REGARD (12) x131x
Damien Oliver 55 12.00 3.75 13.10 3.80
12 WHO SHOT THEBARMAN (13) 07110
Glen Boss 55 19.00 5.50 14.30 3.80
13 WILLING FOE (17) x1x24
James Mcdonald 55 31.00 8.50 37.00 11.60
14 MY AMBIVALENT (4) 3134x
Andrea Atzeni 54.5 41.00 11.00 56.40 14.30
15 PRECEDENCE (20) 7x055
Michael Rodd 54.5 81.00 21.00 33.80 8.70
16 BRAMBLES (21) 21349
Luke Nolen 54 51.00 13.50 48.70 11.80
17 MR O'CEIRIN (19) x5647
Chad Schofield 54 201.00 51.00 99.50 29.60
18 AU REVOIR (23) 26x43
Glyn Schofield 53.5 71.00 18.50 56.20 14.40
19 LIDARI (10) 54426
Ben Melham 53.5 51.00 13.50 51.70 15.10
20 OPINION (14) 05026
Tye Angland 53.5 51.00 13.50 61.80 17.20
21 ARALDO (24) x7635
Dwayne Dunn 53 26.00 7.25 33.30 9.60
22 LUCIA VALENTINA (2) x1613
Kerrin Mcevoy 53 7.00 2.50 7.30 2.80
23 UNCHAIN MY HEART (5) 34390
Dean Yendall 51.5 201.00 51.00 59.50 13.40
24 SIGNOFF (16) 39231
Joao Moreira 51 7.50 2.62 14.50 4.90

[horses4courses]

Post time is 11pm ET Monday 11-3

Here's another list of runners:

http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/racecards/04-11-2014/flemington/racecard/648641/emirates-melbourne-cup-group-1-handicap

[PhantomOnTour]

Thanks H4C !
Good luck tomorrow...sure I will see you in a thread sometime tomorrow night.

[nijinski]

Thanks for bumping POT :ThmbUp:

I'm trying to find pp's but I have some interest in these from what I've read

Who Shot The Barman
Araldo
Admire Rakti
Seismos

I love the idea of the whole Melbourne Cup Holiday !

[horses4courses]

Here are the PPs for tonight's Flemington card:

http://www.australianracing.com/filebin/MelbourneCupDay.pdf

Good luck!

[PhantomOnTour]

You da man H4C...thx :ThmbUp:

[horses4courses]

No problem, POT

One more out of the big race:

:2: Cavalryman

22 going to post as of now.

[Tor Ekman]

Taking a shot with Willing Foe

[arno]

First race in over a decade where I am not handicapping with either CJ's
PaceFigures or TimeFormUS.

$5 Win and Place on 3 and 24

$2 Exacta 1,3,24 with 1,3,11,14,22,24.

Total investment $50

[nijinski]

Here are the PPs for tonight's Flemington card:

http://www.australianracing.com/filebin/MelbourneCupDay.pdf

Good luck!

Much appreciated H4C

[horses4courses]

Much appreciated H4C

You betcha....hope they bring you luck! :ThmbUp:

[Racetrack Playa]

I think I like :16: Brambles
http://www.racingnetwork.com.au/Vision/video_popout.aspx

[horses4courses]

Wow....that's a fine orchestra that Rich Perloff has playing with him :lol:

[HuggingTheRail]

EXA

3 W/ 1,5,11,12,19,21,22,24

WP 3

[Robert Fischer]

21 Araldo - didn't look bad in the Caufield Cup.

22 Lucia Valentino is another solid local horse, but you get much less price.

[Tall One]

Taking a 2 ATB flyer on the :12:

Thanks for posting the PP's H4C..

GLA... :ThmbUp:

[parlay]

pools seem awfully small tonight. hard to play much.

[Robert Fischer]

:1::3::5::20:22:10:24

1- Admire Rakti - Public favorite. I'm not crazy about this horse.
3- Fawkner - Another Public favorite that I don't like, but feel i should include.
5- Protectionist - My pick to win.
10 - Gatewood - Huge Price on a horse who may turn out to be as good as many contenders.
20 - Opinion - 50-1 'sleeper'
22 -Luchia Valentina - closer who really needs the flow of the race late, not sure she gets that here, but can't exclude.
24 - Signoff - Public favorite that I don't know very well.

Bet? = box all 7 =$42 :D
$2plc on :5::10::20:
$2win on :5:
total = $46



also - tossing Araldo - bad post.


21 Araldo - didn't look bad in the Caufield Cup.

22 Lucia Valentino is another solid local horse, but you get much less price.

[nijinski]

post time

[horses4courses]

It's the Japanese or German horse.

The :1: looks a picture.

[horses4courses]

Nice winner with a perfect ride from Ryan Moore. :ThmbUp:

[Robert Fischer]

Can't believe Red Cadeaux runs 2nd again!

[nearco]

It's the Japanese or German horse.

The :1: looks a picture.

Alpha and Omega
German horse wins and Japanese horse finishes last.

Ryan Moore, what can you say, he has to be considered one of the all time greats at this point. He is in an purple patch in his career right now.

[nijinski]

The true test of stamina ! Often a good price if you can hit it !

[nearco]

eQSqHGMpPfA

[iceknight]

Can't believe Red Cadeaux runs 2nd again! At a big price again.. Congrats on picking the winner! :ThmbUp:
and get this....

(for SRU)..... $0.20 Superfecta (5-4-12-24) Paid $10,262.04

[affirmedny]

At a big price again.. Congrats on picking the winner! :ThmbUp:
and get this....

(for SRU)..... $0.20 Superfecta (5-4-12-24) Paid $10,262.04

but how can that be? fractional wagering kills prices, lol

[nijinski]

Unfortunate and tragic , Admire Rakti collapsed and died when he returned to his stall . I feel for his connections . RIP !

Araldi wasn't injured in the race but reportedly kicked a fence shortly
after and fractured his cannon Hoping he makes it . The sad part of the
game . :(

[ultracapper]

What's the purse for that race? 2 miles? Backstretch went on forever.

[nearco]

What's the purse for that race? 2 miles? Backstretch went on forever.

$6m

[dkithore]

cool, is there a way to access replays ?
Try Twinspires.

[dkithore]

:1::3::5::20:22:10:24

1- Admire Rakti - Public favorite. I'm not crazy about this horse.
3- Fawkner - Another Public favorite that I don't like, but feel i should include.
5- Protectionist - My pick to win.
10 - Gatewood - Huge Price on a horse who may turn out to be as good as many contenders.
20 - Opinion - 50-1 'sleeper'
22 -Luchia Valentina - closer who really needs the flow of the race late, not sure she gets that here, but can't exclude.
24 - Signoff - Public favorite that I don't know very well.

Bet? = box all 7 =$42 :D
$2plc on :5::10::20:
$2win on :5:
total = $46



also - tossing Araldo - bad post.
Congratulations , Robert. I did not take 5 due to short odds. But I decided to try other Import #4 at 21-1 for Place. Among a couple of others (Godolpin etc). Partly due to Pace Advantage article on how I crushed BC. I give him the credit for it.